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Title: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: jpotter33 on June 30, 2018, 06:51:52 PM
(Not sure if this is the appropriate thread for free agent rumors, but we don’t really have another thread for this, so posting it here.)

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2783848-warriors-rumors-dwight-howard-has-serious-interest-in-joining-golden-state

Howard has “serious interest” in the Warriors. A little conflicted on this.

On one hand, come on; this is the rich getting richer. Howard could help shore up some of their weaknesses against bigger teams and on the boards IF he buys in to the system.

On the other hand, this also could be a pretty big risk by GS given Howard’s prior locker room issues and trouble buying into systems, especially in a lesser role. He also is pretty much the antithesis to the Warriors’ playing style, and his free throw shooting will severely limit his playing time.
Title: Re: Re: Summer 2018 verified moves
Post by: saltlover on June 30, 2018, 06:52:51 PM
(Not sure if this is the appropriate thread for free agent rumors, but we don’t really have another thread for this, so posting it here.)

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2783848-warriors-rumors-dwight-howard-has-serious-interest-in-joining-golden-state

Howard has “serious interest” in the Warriors. A little conflicted on this.

On one hand, come on; this is the rich getting richer. Howard could help shore up some of their weaknesses against bigger teams and on the boards IF he buys in to the system.

On the other hand, this also could be a pretty big risk by GS given Howard’s prior locker room issues and trouble buying into systems, especially in a lesser role. He also is pretty much the antithesis to the Warriors’ playing style, and his free throw shooting will severely limit his playing time.

I think we should make a rumor thread.  I nominate you to start it.
Title: NBA Rumor Thread:
Post by: Birdman on June 30, 2018, 07:16:58 PM
Please post all rumors that u guys and gals has seen or heard on here..kind of a headache looking at all the posts bout who going where 😉..thanks
Title: 2018 Summer Free Agency Rumors and Speculation
Post by: jpotter33 on June 30, 2018, 07:17:43 PM
Post free agency rumors and speculation here!

(Not sure if this is the appropriate thread for free agent rumors, but we don’t really have another thread for this, so posting it here.)

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2783848-warriors-rumors-dwight-howard-has-serious-interest-in-joining-golden-state

Howard has “serious interest” in the Warriors. A little conflicted on this.

On one hand, come on; this is the rich getting richer. Howard could help shore up some of their weaknesses against bigger teams and on the boards IF he buys in to the system.

On the other hand, this also could be a pretty big risk by GS given Howard’s prior locker room issues and trouble buying into systems, especially in a lesser role. He also is pretty much the antithesis to the Warriors’ playing style, and his free throw shooting will severely limit his playing time.

I think we should make a rumor thread.  I nominate you to start it.
Title: Re: NBA Rumor Thread:
Post by: Birdman on June 30, 2018, 07:18:22 PM
Fred Van Fleet loooks like he be Phoenix new PG..Bleacher Reports
Title: Re: 2018 Summer Free Agency Rumors and Speculation
Post by: jpotter33 on June 30, 2018, 07:19:07 PM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2783854-paul-george-rumors-star-could-stay-with-thunder-on-2-or-3-year-contract

PG considering a 2-3 year deal with OKC.
Title: Re: NBA Rumor Thread:
Post by: jpotter33 on June 30, 2018, 07:20:04 PM
Lol someone combine our threads, please. I think we both took Salty’s advice and started new rumor threads!  :P
Title: Re: NBA Rumor Thread:
Post by: footey on June 30, 2018, 07:22:25 PM
So if true less likely they bid for Smart.
Title: Re: Re: Summer 2018 verified moves
Post by: Beat LA on June 30, 2018, 07:22:45 PM
(Not sure if this is the appropriate thread for free agent rumors, but we don’t really have another thread for this, so posting it here.)

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2783848-warriors-rumors-dwight-howard-has-serious-interest-in-joining-golden-state

Howard has “serious interest” in the Warriors. A little conflicted on this.

On one hand, come on; this is the rich getting richer. Howard could help shore up some of their weaknesses against bigger teams and on the boards IF he buys in to the system.

On the other hand, this also could be a pretty big risk by GS given Howard’s prior locker room issues and trouble buying into systems, especially in a lesser role. He also is pretty much the antithesis to the Warriors’ playing style, and his free throw shooting will severely limit his playing time.

While I certainly understand those concerns, I have to think that one of the prime reasons for the Warriors possibly getting Howard would be in response to the Rockets. Dennis Schroder said it last year, I believe, in that Dwight always plays his best against his former teams, even if that only counts for, like, ten games a year, lol ;D, so can you imagine a motivated Dwight Howard playing against the Rockets? :o Dear god :o.

How would anyone beat that hypothetical Golden State team? Seriously, how would you do it? #Ultimate2KTeam
Title: Re: 2018 Summer Free Agency Rumors and Speculation
Post by: timpiker on June 30, 2018, 07:28:25 PM
On the PG OKC rumor I would love it.  F's the Lakers which is great and makes me wonder.  A yr ago all the fake news media said PG was going to the Lakers this year, blah, blah, blah.  You mean the media just might be wrong? 
Title: Re: 2018 Summer Free Agency Rumors and Speculation
Post by: RJ87 on June 30, 2018, 07:28:45 PM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2783854-paul-george-rumors-star-could-stay-with-thunder-on-2-or-3-year-contract

PG considering a 2-3 year deal with OKC.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23956635/with-paul-george-town-russell-westbrook-hosting-summer-hype-house-party

Russell Westbrook is throwing a party in OKC and having guests sign non-disclosure agreements. Wonder if the party is to celebrate PG staying and the NDA is to keep word on the low so he can announce his "decision" on his ESPN special.
Title: Re: 2018 Summer Free Agency Rumors and Speculation
Post by: CelticSooner on June 30, 2018, 07:35:44 PM
Too much foreshadowing for George not to stay in OKC. That eliminates the LA super team. Nice
Title: Re: 2018 Summer Free Agency Rumors and Speculation
Post by: hodgy03038 on June 30, 2018, 07:39:05 PM
I don't like it because I want LeBron to have a reason to go to LA out of the conference and not to Philly.
Title: Re: 2018 Summer Free Agency Rumors and Speculation
Post by: DefenseWinsChamps on June 30, 2018, 07:48:07 PM
Leonard and James to LA.

George back to OKC.

Reddick and Illyasova back to Philly.

Run it back and dominate the Sixers in the ECF in 2019.
Title: Re: 2018 Summer Free Agency Rumors and Speculation
Post by: celticinorlando on June 30, 2018, 07:54:36 PM
James and Leonard to Lakers

Paul to Houston

George to OKC

Smart and Baynes to Boston with another signing of a bench player

Redick back to Philly, sixers miss out on max player

Cousins one year deal in New Orleans

Aaron Gordon max deal offer from pacers matched by Orlando s

Boston biggest move would be Lebron out of the east. It would cripple the Cavs and Philly would get no better. We need Lebron gone.
Title: Re: NBA Rumor Thread:
Post by: liam on June 30, 2018, 08:03:10 PM
Fred Van Fleet loooks like he be Phoenix new PG..Bleacher Reports

That's a very good fit.
Title: Re: 2018 Summer Free Agency Rumors and Speculation
Post by: liam on June 30, 2018, 08:08:31 PM
Does free agency start in an hour?
Title: Re: 2018 Summer Free Agency Rumors and Speculation
Post by: saltlover on June 30, 2018, 08:10:26 PM
Does free agency start in an hour?

4 hours technically.  Still waiting for the salary cap release, which last year came right around this time on the 30th.
Title: Re: 2018 Summer Free Agency Rumors and Speculation
Post by: liam on June 30, 2018, 08:11:40 PM
Does free agency start in an hour?

4 hours technically.  Still waiting for the salary cap release, which last year came right around this time on the 30th.

Midnight? Weird...
Title: Re: 2018 Summer Free Agency Rumors and Speculation
Post by: RJ87 on June 30, 2018, 08:34:45 PM
Does free agency start in an hour?

4 hours technically.  Still waiting for the salary cap release, which last year came right around this time on the 30th.

Midnight? Weird...

It's always started at midnight...
Title: Re: 2018 Summer Free Agency Rumors and Speculation
Post by: liam on June 30, 2018, 08:35:47 PM
Does free agency start in an hour?

4 hours technically.  Still waiting for the salary cap release, which last year came right around this time on the 30th.

Midnight? Weird...

It's always started at midnight...

Oh :-[
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: DefenseWinsChamps on June 30, 2018, 08:49:49 PM
Tony Jones reporting for Bleacher Report that of all the RFA, Parker is one that is truly available.

I think Parker wants out. It will be interesting if any team is willing to offer him more than the MLE. Kings and Hawks are possibilities. Pacers are too as a second choice to Gordon.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: jpotter33 on June 30, 2018, 09:13:31 PM
It will be interesting to see if we hear anything about Baynes or Smart tonight. I expect Smart to meet with a few other teams, but I could see Baynes getting signed tonight.
Title: Re: 2018 Summer Free Agency Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Beat LA on June 30, 2018, 09:22:42 PM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2783854-paul-george-rumors-star-could-stay-with-thunder-on-2-or-3-year-contract

PG considering a 2-3 year deal with OKC.

Wow. What a moron, lol ;D.
Title: Re: 2018 Summer Free Agency Rumors and Speculation
Post by: saltlover on June 30, 2018, 09:35:22 PM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2783854-paul-george-rumors-star-could-stay-with-thunder-on-2-or-3-year-contract

PG considering a 2-3 year deal with OKC.

Wow. What a moron, lol ;D.

Tell that to OKC and the incredibly massive luxury tax bill they’re facing if George resigns.  Watching OKC purge their roster over the next months will be quite interesting.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: DefenseWinsChamps on June 30, 2018, 09:50:55 PM
These moves by the Lakers to cut Ullis and Bryant might be an indication of something more than Lebron coming. They'd likely keep those guys to fill out the roster if Lebron was the only move.

I think that's the weird thing here, because George sounds like he is going back to OKC and Cousins is going back to NOP.

Who else would be worthy of big money?

This may not be happening, but I wonder if Paul goes there for the max because the Rockets aren't willing to pay him. Then, I wonder if Wade follows.

Then, I wonder if Melo gets bought out to save OKC on the luxury tax and goes to LA.

Banana boat 5 years late.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: saltlover on June 30, 2018, 09:55:05 PM
These moves by the Lakers to cut Ullis and Bryant might be an indication of something more than Lebron coming. They'd likely keep those guys to fill out the roster if Lebron was the only move.

I think that's the weird thing here, because George sounds like he is going back to OKC and Cousins is going back to NOP.

Who else would be worthy of big money?

This may not be happening, but I wonder if Paul goes there for the max because the Rockets aren't willing to pay him. Then, I wonder if Wade follows.

Then, I wonder if Melo gets bought out to save OKC on the luxury tax and goes to LA.

Banana boat 5 years late.

These moves help them keep Randle’s cap hold.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: celticinorlando on June 30, 2018, 09:56:07 PM
Okc is going nowhere

What a waste of time for George
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: RJ87 on June 30, 2018, 10:00:20 PM
Why so much hate on PG potentially staying in OKC? They took a gamble and used the season to pitch him and it may actually pay off. Goes to show that more teams should've been willing to throw themselves in the mix for last offseason. And it's nice for once that smaller market team isn't just a farm system for the Lakers.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: DefenseWinsChamps on June 30, 2018, 10:05:11 PM
These moves by the Lakers to cut Ullis and Bryant might be an indication of something more than Lebron coming. They'd likely keep those guys to fill out the roster if Lebron was the only move.

I think that's the weird thing here, because George sounds like he is going back to OKC and Cousins is going back to NOP.

Who else would be worthy of big money?

This may not be happening, but I wonder if Paul goes there for the max because the Rockets aren't willing to pay him. Then, I wonder if Wade follows.

Then, I wonder if Melo gets bought out to save OKC on the luxury tax and goes to LA.

Banana boat 5 years late.

These moves help them keep Randle’s cap hold.

I don't understand that connection. Why couldn't they keep his cap hold with Bryant and Ullis and sign James?
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: celticinorlando on June 30, 2018, 10:06:50 PM
Justin Schultz:

My sense for a while has been #LeBron to the #Lakers — and I do NOT believe that is predicated off of LA getting Paul George, Kawhi or any other superstar. I believe Bron is a Laker regardless. Another player will not change this...
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: slamtheking on June 30, 2018, 10:36:50 PM
Why so much hate on PG potentially staying in OKC? They took a gamble and used the season to pitch him and it may actually pay off. Goes to show that more teams should've been willing to throw themselves in the mix for last offseason. And it's nice for once that smaller market team isn't just a farm system for the Lakers.
couldn't agree more.  happy for OKC if PG really does resign with them. even happier Lakers whiff on him
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: jpotter33 on June 30, 2018, 10:42:19 PM
http://twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA/status/1013248623365316608

Baynes has no other planned meetings besides Boston. Hopes to come to an agreement with Boston quickly and forgo meeting other teams.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: RJ87 on June 30, 2018, 10:51:37 PM
http://twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA/status/1013248623365316608

Baynes has no other planned meetings besides Boston. Hopes to come to an agreement with Boston quickly and forgo meeting other teams.

Hopefully we reach an agreement quickly with Aron, then we can focus on Marcus.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: DefenseWinsChamps on June 30, 2018, 10:53:44 PM
These moves by the Lakers to cut Ullis and Bryant might be an indication of something more than Lebron coming. They'd likely keep those guys to fill out the roster if Lebron was the only move.

I think that's the weird thing here, because George sounds like he is going back to OKC and Cousins is going back to NOP.

Who else would be worthy of big money?

This may not be happening, but I wonder if Paul goes there for the max because the Rockets aren't willing to pay him. Then, I wonder if Wade follows.

Then, I wonder if Melo gets bought out to save OKC on the luxury tax and goes to LA.

Banana boat 5 years late.

These moves help them keep Randle’s cap hold.

I don't understand that connection. Why couldn't they keep his cap hold with Bryant and Ullis and sign James?

Could also be Boogie on a short-term max. There's a lot of conjecture out there right now, but Kevin O'Connor is saying its a possibility.

Because the universe revolves around the Cs, the Celtics narrative about this is that the Pelicans talent would continue to be lowered, while the cap would be close to maxed out.

There's a scenario where Davis becomes available after the inevitable downward trend in Mirotic's game and Holliday/Davis injuries.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: hpantazo on June 30, 2018, 10:54:07 PM
So when's the Wojbomb of Lebron to the Lakers coming?
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: LakersFan_33 on June 30, 2018, 11:01:03 PM
I'm hearing the Lakers have interest in bringing Cousins (as a backup plan) on a short-term deal with Lebron. I definitely don't think that would work.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: saltlover on June 30, 2018, 11:01:06 PM
These moves by the Lakers to cut Ullis and Bryant might be an indication of something more than Lebron coming. They'd likely keep those guys to fill out the roster if Lebron was the only move.

I think that's the weird thing here, because George sounds like he is going back to OKC and Cousins is going back to NOP.

Who else would be worthy of big money?

This may not be happening, but I wonder if Paul goes there for the max because the Rockets aren't willing to pay him. Then, I wonder if Wade follows.

Then, I wonder if Melo gets bought out to save OKC on the luxury tax and goes to LA.

Banana boat 5 years late.

These moves help them keep Randle’s cap hold.

I don't understand that connection. Why couldn't they keep his cap hold with Bryant and Ullis and sign James?

Sorry, got cut off by a child who hit submit.  It helps them keep Randle’s cap hold and be able to trade for Kawhi centered around Ingram using cap room only, and not having to match salaries.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: celticinorlando on June 30, 2018, 11:02:42 PM
Lakers heavily involved with boogie now
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: DefenseWinsChamps on June 30, 2018, 11:06:08 PM
Mannix reporting that the Nuggets will resign Barton on a 4 year/50 million contract.

Not only is that a huge tax hit for the Nuggets, but this takes one big under-the-radar target for the Sixers. He may not be Leonard or George, but he is another good shot creator, which is something the Sixers seriously lacked.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: RJ87 on June 30, 2018, 11:06:16 PM
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Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: celticinorlando on June 30, 2018, 11:07:49 PM
My guess Smarts sweet spot is going to the 10 mil.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Roy H. on June 30, 2018, 11:11:19 PM
Lakers heavily involved with boogie now

Lebron and Boogie would be so dominant together, assuming DMC is healthy.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: saltlover on June 30, 2018, 11:11:49 PM
Mannix reporting that the Nuggets will resign Barton on a 4 year/50 million contract.

Not only is that a huge tax hit for the Nuggets, but this takes one big under-the-radar target for the Sixers. He may not be Leonard or George, but he is another good shot creator, which is something the Sixers seriously lacked.

Either Chandler or Faried will be moved with a 1st.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: jpotter33 on June 30, 2018, 11:14:53 PM
Mannix reporting that the Nuggets will resign Barton on a 4 year/50 million contract.

Not only is that a huge tax hit for the Nuggets, but this takes one big under-the-radar target for the Sixers. He may not be Leonard or George, but he is another good shot creator, which is something the Sixers seriously lacked.

On the other hand, that’s one target less for Indy, who is thought to be a Smart suitor.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: celticinorlando on June 30, 2018, 11:16:25 PM
Lakers heavily involved with boogie now

Lebron and Boogie would be so dominant together, assuming DMC is healthy.

Agree. Sign those two and go all in and get Leonard.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: jpotter33 on June 30, 2018, 11:17:23 PM
http://twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA/status/1013248623365316608

Baynes has no other planned meetings besides Boston. Hopes to come to an agreement with Boston quickly and forgo meeting other teams.

http://twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA/status/1013253300140101632

http://twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA/status/1013255288286339072

Seems to be the plan. Hopefully Smart sees the limited market and takes something around 4/40 - 4/48. I’m afraid that if he takes the QO he for sure will leave next summer.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: DefenseWinsChamps on June 30, 2018, 11:17:54 PM
Mannix reporting that the Nuggets will resign Barton on a 4 year/50 million contract.

Not only is that a huge tax hit for the Nuggets, but this takes one big under-the-radar target for the Sixers. He may not be Leonard or George, but he is another good shot creator, which is something the Sixers seriously lacked.

Either Chandler or Faried will be moved with a 1st.

My count says they would still be deep in the luxury tax.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: RJ87 on June 30, 2018, 11:19:44 PM
Lakers heavily involved with boogie now

Lebron and Boogie would be so dominant together, assuming DMC is healthy.

And that's the caveat, isn't it? On the one hand, history hasn't been kind to big men with Achilles issues. On the other, it's 2018 and medicine is so much more advanced now. Either way, I don't know what we can expect from DeMarcus moving forward.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: celticinorlando on June 30, 2018, 11:23:04 PM
Still cannot believe George is most likely going back to okc.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: CelticSooner on June 30, 2018, 11:23:49 PM
Lakers heavily involved with boogie now

Lebron and Boogie would be so dominant together, assuming DMC is healthy.

Agree. Sign those two and go all in and get Leonard.

Woof that’s a tough matchup against small ball. Has a chance of being a volatile locker room though which is cool.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: jpotter33 on June 30, 2018, 11:26:54 PM
Lakers heavily involved with boogie now

Lebron and Boogie would be so dominant together, assuming DMC is healthy.

Agree. Sign those two and go all in and get Leonard.

Don't see Cousins going to LA. NO has to be all-in on him to keep Davis satisfied.

Also question the fit of Lebron and Cousins together, especially with that surrounding fit. A Ball, Ingram, James, Kuzma, and Cousins lineup doesn’t have all that much reliable shooting on it outside of Kuzma, and all of those guys work best with the ball in their hands. Don’t think that experiment works out on the fooor.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: saltlover on June 30, 2018, 11:33:00 PM
Mannix reporting that the Nuggets will resign Barton on a 4 year/50 million contract.

Not only is that a huge tax hit for the Nuggets, but this takes one big under-the-radar target for the Sixers. He may not be Leonard or George, but he is another good shot creator, which is something the Sixers seriously lacked.

Either Chandler or Faried will be moved with a 1st.

My count says they would still be deep in the luxury tax.

Oh yeah, they’ll still be a tax team, not doubting that.  But being $5-10 million over vs. $20 million is quite large given the increasing tax cost.  I think a few teams, like Denver, will concede to be in the tax, and focus more on limiting a huge bill.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: MattyIce on June 30, 2018, 11:38:43 PM
Lakers heavily involved with boogie now

Lebron and Boogie would be so dominant together, assuming DMC is healthy.

Agree. Sign those two and go all in and get Leonard.

Don't see Cousins going to LA. NO has to be all-in on him to keep Davis satisfied.

Also question the fit of Lebron and Cousins together, especially with that surrounding fit. A Ball, Ingram, James, Kuzma, and Cousins lineup doesn’t have all that much reliable shooting on it outside of Kuzma, and all of those guys work best with the ball in their hands. Don’t think that experiment works out on the fooor.
Could the Lakers emerge as a possible suitor for DeMarcus Cousins? For those of you who like to read into social-media decisions, Cousins recently unfollowed the Pelicans on Instagram.

https://twitter.com/alexkennedynba/status/1013262872699383808?s=21

Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: celticpride1 on June 30, 2018, 11:47:10 PM
Pg13 to stay in okc per wojo
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: jpotter33 on June 30, 2018, 11:47:21 PM
http://bleacherreport.com/post/nba/d56b0b7b-c0ac-45ea-99f4-0a7d6bde5825

George staying in OKC!
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Eddie20 on June 30, 2018, 11:49:30 PM
Lakers heavily involved with boogie now

Lebron and Boogie would be so dominant together, assuming DMC is healthy.

Curious as to why you think so. Cousins isn't a rim runner and he isn't that good of shooter to be a pick and pop guy. No, instead he's probably the worst stylistic big you could have next to Lebron on offense. He's going to hold the ball and take a lot of tough contested (aka bad) shots. In addition, I'm very curious to see how his mobility is now post-injury, especially in his perimeter D. He's always been a lazy player that takes a lot of plays off and/or failed to get back on D, but this could very well turn him into a Kanter type liability in defending the PNR.

I have no doubt Cousins will still get his numbers. In fact, he did so in New Orleans. However, not only was the Davis-Cousins duo not "dominant", but they were considerably better after Cousins' injury when the ball moved much better on offense.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: RJ87 on June 30, 2018, 11:51:43 PM
http://bleacherreport.com/post/nba/d56b0b7b-c0ac-45ea-99f4-0a7d6bde5825

George staying in OKC!

Good on PG. Curious to see if its a 1+1 or 2+1 deal.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: CelticSooner on June 30, 2018, 11:56:01 PM
So who’s going to throw the chips on the table for Kawhi. Who will show the most desperation?
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: cltc5 on June 30, 2018, 11:57:12 PM
LA BRon.  Done deal.  No surprise ::)
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: CelticSooner on June 30, 2018, 11:57:15 PM
Gotta love the connection problems smh
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: jpotter33 on June 30, 2018, 11:59:51 PM
http://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1013267266929127427

Gay to stay in SAS for 1/10.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: tazzmaniac on July 01, 2018, 12:01:17 AM
Good to see no one waiting on Lebron to make a decision this time. 
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: cltc5 on July 01, 2018, 12:02:01 AM
Paul 4 year with rockets
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: jpotter33 on July 01, 2018, 12:02:20 AM
http://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1013269901992226816

McDermott to Indy 3/22. Great news on the Smart front!
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: jpotter33 on July 01, 2018, 12:02:59 AM
http://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1013270808175808512

Ilyasova 3/21 with Milwaukee. Interesting.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: CelticSooner on July 01, 2018, 12:03:04 AM
Paul 4 year with rockets

Wow that contract is looking bad after next season.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Atzar on July 01, 2018, 12:03:42 AM
PG staying in OKC is good for us.  Frankly, he's no threat there.  OKC isn't winning anything as currently constructed - not unless they get Melo's corpse off the roster and find some semblance of depth. 

He could have made Philly much more dangerous.  I'm also happy that LAL missed on him. 

Good news.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: CelticSooner on July 01, 2018, 12:03:47 AM
Wait free agency just started though? How are these deals already done? Heh heh
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: cltc5 on July 01, 2018, 12:04:13 AM
 Brian windhorst acting like someone stole his bucket of fried chicken after Paul g not going to LA lol
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: jpotter33 on July 01, 2018, 12:11:14 AM
http://bleacherreport.com/post/nba/46e51ec2-2428-49f8-9be4-6f3aa8c9adae

DJ expected to sign with Dallas soon. Another great sign for the Smart market!

Let’s hope that Blake and Paul don’t stop the signing this time  ;)
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Sketch5 on July 01, 2018, 12:11:30 AM
Wait free agency just started though? How are these deals already done? Heh heh

I know, right? I get players that are staying with their teams, something could have been said during the excite meetings. But McBuckets came in almost 5 minutes before midnight....Maybe they go by Atlantic time. :P
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Sophomore on July 01, 2018, 12:13:43 AM
Paul 4 year with rockets

Wow that contract is looking bad after next season.

That ... is a heck of a pile of money for an aging, oft-injured PG.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: jpotter33 on July 01, 2018, 12:16:37 AM
LA BRon.  Done deal.  No surprise ::)

?? No one is reporting this.

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/306f409a8fc508ae6270ca2ead84a67b/tenor.gif?itemid=7655534)
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: cltc5 on July 01, 2018, 12:16:37 AM
Could PG be part of sign and trade to Cleveland to lure lebron?
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Sketch5 on July 01, 2018, 12:17:04 AM
Baynes two years 11M!
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: jpotter33 on July 01, 2018, 12:17:06 AM
http://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1013273854884671488

Baynes to Boston for 11/2! Great deal, especially after how he played last year for us.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: GetLucky on July 01, 2018, 12:18:24 AM
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Free agent center Aron Baynes has agreed to a two-year, $11M deal to return to the Boston Celtics, league sources tell Yahoo.


https://twitter.com/shamscharania/status/1013273854884671488?s=21

YESSS
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: cltc5 on July 01, 2018, 12:19:50 AM
Jordan 1 year with mavs
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: celticinorlando on July 01, 2018, 12:19:54 AM
Boston still has 8 mill non taxpayer mle intact after the Baynes signing
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: cltc5 on July 01, 2018, 12:20:39 AM
Baynes two years 11M!
Yes!
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: celticinorlando on July 01, 2018, 12:21:16 AM
Baynes new deal with Boston is likely to be:

Year 1: $5,193,600 (max using his Non-Bird Rights)
Year 2: $5,453,280

Using Non-Bird Rights allows Boston to retain the entirety of the $8,641,000 Non-Taxpayer MLE.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: jpotter33 on July 01, 2018, 12:21:35 AM
http://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1013273854884671488

Baynes to Boston for 11/2! Great deal, especially after how he played last year for us.

http://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1013275941970284545

Looks like second year is a player option.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: tazzmaniac on July 01, 2018, 12:23:15 AM
Per Woj:  Jerami Grant resigns with OKC for 3/27 

That's going to be a heck of a tax bill. 
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: cltc5 on July 01, 2018, 12:23:47 AM
Windhorst crying lol
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: CelticSooner on July 01, 2018, 12:25:20 AM
Windhorst actually upstaging the Laker homer Byron Scott?
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Sketch5 on July 01, 2018, 12:25:34 AM
Per Woj:  Jerami Grant resigns with OKC for 3/27 

That's going to be a heck of a tax bill.

Especially since they wont go far unless they make a move to get some bench help.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Phantom255x on July 01, 2018, 12:25:44 AM
YES!!!! ALL OF AUSTRALIA IS BACK!!!  8)

And LOL Lakers fans. George staying OKC. May have to settle on just Lebron (nothing else)

Also CP3 staying in Houston at 4/160M  :o

Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: jpotter33 on July 01, 2018, 12:26:05 AM
So with Dallas and Indy likely out of the Smart sweepstakes with their deals with DJ and McDermott, respectively, does that just leave Phoenix as the primary Smart suitor left?
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: celticinorlando on July 01, 2018, 12:28:05 AM
Smart is having his options dry up

What are the thunder doing? $308 mill payroll?? For a team that can’t get out of the first round
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on July 01, 2018, 12:29:19 AM
Take a bow, Sam Presti.

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1013275707970072583

Quote
Paul George has agreed to a four-year, $137M max contract with the Thunder, league source tells ESPN. Deal includes a player option.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: celticinorlando on July 01, 2018, 12:32:33 AM
What does Boston have left to find a shooter for the bench?
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: MattyIce on July 01, 2018, 12:43:54 AM
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Houston free agent Trevor Ariza has agreed to a one-year, $15M deal with the Phoenix Suns, league sources tell Yahoo.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Roy H. on July 01, 2018, 12:46:09 AM
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Houston free agent Trevor Ariza has agreed to a one-year, $15M deal with the Phoenix Suns, league sources tell Yahoo.

Suns being the Suns. It’s only one year, but the guy is 33 years old.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: saltlover on July 01, 2018, 12:46:24 AM
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Houston free agent Trevor Ariza has agreed to a one-year, $15M deal with the Phoenix Suns, league sources tell Yahoo.

Beat me to it!  Less money for Smart!
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: tazzmaniac on July 01, 2018, 12:46:52 AM
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Houston free agent Trevor Ariza has agreed to a one-year, $15M deal with the Phoenix Suns, league sources tell Yahoo.
Surprised Houston didn't match or beat that. 
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on July 01, 2018, 12:47:49 AM
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Houston free agent Trevor Ariza has agreed to a one-year, $15M deal with the Phoenix Suns, league sources tell Yahoo.

Suns being the Suns. It’s only one year, but the guy is 33 years old.

Man, I swear that earlier today I almost made a post that FVV and Ariza may be the two most likely acquisitions for the Suns.  And I think they've done well. 
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: MattyIce on July 01, 2018, 12:48:05 AM
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Houston free agent Trevor Ariza has agreed to a one-year, $15M deal with the Phoenix Suns, league sources tell Yahoo.

Beat me to it!  Less money for Smart!

exactly! (although i want the best for him...i just want us to be able to sign him!)
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: jpotter33 on July 01, 2018, 12:49:12 AM
Looking good for retaining Smart, at the very least for the QO!
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Somebody on July 01, 2018, 12:49:15 AM
What does Boston have left to find a shooter for the bench?
Jabari Bird :laugh:
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Beat LA on July 01, 2018, 12:49:53 AM
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Houston free agent Trevor Ariza has agreed to a one-year, $15M deal with the Phoenix Suns, league sources tell Yahoo.

Suns being the Suns. It’s only one year, but the guy is 33 years old.
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Houston free agent Trevor Ariza has agreed to a one-year, $15M deal with the Phoenix Suns, league sources tell Yahoo.

Beat me to it!  Less money for Smart!

Man, I swear that earlier today I almost made a post that FVV and Ariza may be the two most likely acquisitions for the Suns.  And I think they've done well.

Wow. Losing Ariza is really going to hurt the Rockets, especially defensively, imo.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: RJ87 on July 01, 2018, 12:50:05 AM
Yet another offseason that Happy Walters miscalculated the market for his RFA. Who's left as a threat to sign Marcus Smart?
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: CelticSooner on July 01, 2018, 12:50:23 AM
All these guys are taking the biggest deals they can FAST lol

For people wanting to get Smart back for cheap these are very good things.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: celticinorlando on July 01, 2018, 12:51:13 AM
Marcus smart ain’t getting more than 9 mill on my opinion
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: jpotter33 on July 01, 2018, 12:51:19 AM
http://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA/status/1013281294669811712

Woj reporting that we’re still expressing interest in Kawhi.

Hopefully not, but I wonder if Boston and Philly are now emboldened after seeing how the George scenario played out.
Title: Re: 2018 Summer Free Agency Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Beat LA on July 01, 2018, 12:52:27 AM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2783854-paul-george-rumors-star-could-stay-with-thunder-on-2-or-3-year-contract

PG considering a 2-3 year deal with OKC.

Wow. What a moron, lol ;D.

Tell that to OKC and the incredibly massive luxury tax bill they’re facing if George resigns.  Watching OKC purge their roster over the next months will be quite interesting.

My comment was more about the fact that George, Westbrook, and Anthony just don't fit together, and PG would have been much better off going back to Indiana, imo.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Sketch5 on July 01, 2018, 12:55:09 AM
Rose 1 year deal with the Wolves for 2.1 Mill and a parking spot right out side the locker room.
Title: Re: 2018 Summer Free Agency Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Sketch5 on July 01, 2018, 12:56:40 AM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2783854-paul-george-rumors-star-could-stay-with-thunder-on-2-or-3-year-contract

PG considering a 2-3 year deal with OKC.

Wow. What a moron, lol ;D.

Tell that to OKC and the incredibly massive luxury tax bill they’re facing if George resigns.  Watching OKC purge their roster over the next months will be quite interesting.

My comment was more about the fact that George, Westbrook, and Anthony just don't fit together, and PG would have been much better off going back to Indiana, imo.

They need to move Melo at the deadline for some bench help. Might be a team out their looking to free up some cap next summer.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: tazzmaniac on July 01, 2018, 12:58:34 AM
Lack of cap space sure incentivizes teams and players to get deals done quick. 
Title: Re: 2018 Summer Free Agency Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Csfan1984 on July 01, 2018, 12:59:05 AM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2783854-paul-george-rumors-star-could-stay-with-thunder-on-2-or-3-year-contract

PG considering a 2-3 year deal with OKC.

Wow. What a moron, lol ;D.

Tell that to OKC and the incredibly massive luxury tax bill they’re facing if George resigns.  Watching OKC purge their roster over the next months will be quite interesting.

My comment was more about the fact that George, Westbrook, and Anthony just don't fit together, and PG would have been much better off going back to Indiana, imo.

They need to move Melo at the deadline for some bench help. Might be a team out their looking to free up some cap next summer.
Knicks  ;D
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Beat LA on July 01, 2018, 01:00:06 AM
https://www.si.com/nba/2018/06/30/lebron-james-cavaliers-tums-heartburn-medicine-fans

;D
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on July 01, 2018, 01:02:00 AM
That Trevor Ariza to Phoenix just had me dumbfounded.

Why? Didn't they just gave up an unprotected 1st round pick to take a practically younger version of Ariza???
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: rondofan1255 on July 01, 2018, 01:03:07 AM
Belinelli 2yr/12m to the Spurs, Ed Davis to Nets 1yr/4.4M
Title: Re: 2018 Summer Free Agency Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Sketch5 on July 01, 2018, 01:03:49 AM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2783854-paul-george-rumors-star-could-stay-with-thunder-on-2-or-3-year-contract

PG considering a 2-3 year deal with OKC.

Wow. What a moron, lol ;D.

Tell that to OKC and the incredibly massive luxury tax bill they’re facing if George resigns.  Watching OKC purge their roster over the next months will be quite interesting.

My comment was more about the fact that George, Westbrook, and Anthony just don't fit together, and PG would have been much better off going back to Indiana, imo.

They need to move Melo at the deadline for some bench help. Might be a team out their looking to free up some cap next summer.
Knicks  ;D


They should trade him back for Kanter. LOL
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Sketch5 on July 01, 2018, 01:04:56 AM
https://www.si.com/nba/2018/06/30/lebron-james-cavaliers-tums-heartburn-medicine-fans

;D

A lighter fluid company should get in on this. :D
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Roy H. on July 01, 2018, 01:05:06 AM
Glad to see Philly losing Belinelli and Ilyasova.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: tazzmaniac on July 01, 2018, 01:05:24 AM
That Trevor Ariza to Phoenix just had me dumbfounded.

Why? Didn't they just gave up an unprotected 1st round pick to take a practically younger version of Ariza???
Apparently the owner wants to win now even though that's rather delusional.  Helps our Kings pick though. 
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: rondofan1255 on July 01, 2018, 01:05:24 AM
Gerald Green minimum 1 yr back to Rockets
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: RJ87 on July 01, 2018, 01:05:38 AM
Belinelli 2yr/12m to the Spurs, Ed Davis to Nets 1yr/4.4M

Sixers lost Bellinelli and Ersan. What's their GM doi-- oh wait.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: liam on July 01, 2018, 01:05:57 AM
Glad to see Philly losing Belinelli and Ilyasova.

Where did Ilyasova go?
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: liam on July 01, 2018, 01:06:42 AM
The money is going very quickly!
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: RJ87 on July 01, 2018, 01:06:44 AM
Glad to see Philly losing Belinelli and Ilyasova.

Where did Ilyasova go?

Milwaukee
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: liam on July 01, 2018, 01:07:11 AM
Glad to see Philly losing Belinelli and Ilyasova.

Where did Ilyasova go?

Milwaukee

Good grab for the bucks.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Csfan1984 on July 01, 2018, 01:07:54 AM
Glad to see Philly losing Belinelli and Ilyasova.

Where did Ilyasova go?
Bucks
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: saltlover on July 01, 2018, 01:07:57 AM
The money is going very quickly!

Yeah, there’s not much available, so players are taking the first good offer they hear I bet.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Sketch5 on July 01, 2018, 01:08:02 AM
Glad to see Philly losing Belinelli and Ilyasova.

Where did Ilyasova go?

Bucks
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: tazzmaniac on July 01, 2018, 01:08:19 AM
Belinelli 2yr/12m to the Spurs, Ed Davis to Nets 1yr/4.4M

Sixers lost Bellinelli and Ersan. What's their GM doi-- oh wait.
They aren't going to waste multi-year money on players like Bellinelli and Ilyasova.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Csfan1984 on July 01, 2018, 01:09:14 AM
Belinelli 2yr/12m to the Spurs, Ed Davis to Nets 1yr/4.4M

Sixers lost Bellinelli and Ersan. What's their GM doi-- oh wait.
They aren't going to waste multi-year money on players like Bellinelli and Ilyasova.
Well the process is going through a delay if they get no one
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Roy H. on July 01, 2018, 01:09:39 AM
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Tim MacMahon @espn_macmahon
1 minute ago
Swingman Gerald Green has agreed to re-sign with the Rockets on a one-year deal for the veteran's minimum of $2.4 million, a source said.

I’m surprised no one will give Gerald more than the minimum.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: liam on July 01, 2018, 01:09:57 AM
Glad to see Philly losing Belinelli and Ilyasova.

Where did Ilyasova go?

Bucks

TP
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: liam on July 01, 2018, 01:10:20 AM
Glad to see Philly losing Belinelli and Ilyasova.

Where did Ilyasova go?
Bucks

TP
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: RJ87 on July 01, 2018, 01:10:21 AM
Belinelli 2yr/12m to the Spurs, Ed Davis to Nets 1yr/4.4M

Sixers lost Bellinelli and Ersan. What's their GM doi-- oh wait.
They aren't going to waste multi-year money on players like Bellinelli and Ilyasova.

They could've given them front loaded deals with partially or non guaranteed 2nd years. Roll over the cap space to next year, because they're clearly not getting a max guy this offseason.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: MattyIce on July 01, 2018, 01:10:44 AM
Belinelli 2yr/12m to the Spurs, Ed Davis to Nets 1yr/4.4M

Sixers lost Bellinelli and Ersan. What's their GM doi-- oh wait.
They aren't going to waste multi-year money on players like Bellinelli and Ilyasova.
Well the process is going through a delay if they get no one

TP
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: liam on July 01, 2018, 01:10:48 AM
Glad to see Philly losing Belinelli and Ilyasova.

Where did Ilyasova go?

Milwaukee

TP
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: saltlover on July 01, 2018, 01:10:58 AM
Belinelli 2yr/12m to the Spurs, Ed Davis to Nets 1yr/4.4M

Sixers lost Bellinelli and Ersan. What's their GM doi-- oh wait.
They aren't going to waste multi-year money on players like Bellinelli and Ilyasova.
Well the process is going through a delay if they get no one

They have to wait on LeBron, because you can’t pass up that chance.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: CelticSooner on July 01, 2018, 01:12:52 AM
Brett Brown gonna get an itchy trigger finger and dump all his chips on the table for Kawhi.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Csfan1984 on July 01, 2018, 01:13:08 AM
Nothing on IT?
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Beat LA on July 01, 2018, 01:13:51 AM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2783854-paul-george-rumors-star-could-stay-with-thunder-on-2-or-3-year-contract

PG considering a 2-3 year deal with OKC.

Wow. What a moron, lol ;D.

Tell that to OKC and the incredibly massive luxury tax bill they’re facing if George resigns.  Watching OKC purge their roster over the next months will be quite interesting.

My comment was more about the fact that George, Westbrook, and Anthony just don't fit together, and PG would have been much better off going back to Indiana, imo.

They need to move Melo at the deadline for some bench help. Might be a team out their looking to free up some cap next summer.
Knicks  ;D


They should trade him back for Kanter. LOL

LOL, TP ;D.

https://www.si.com/nba/2018/06/30/lebron-james-cavaliers-tums-heartburn-medicine-fans

;D

A lighter fluid company should get in on this. :D

Ouch ;D.

The money is going very quickly!

I need money...;D.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: RJ87 on July 01, 2018, 01:14:03 AM
Nothing on IT?

He's chasing down the brinks truck.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: liam on July 01, 2018, 01:14:12 AM
Nothing on IT?

I bet he signs a one year deal to show he's still got it...
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Csfan1984 on July 01, 2018, 01:14:27 AM
Belinelli 2yr/12m to the Spurs, Ed Davis to Nets 1yr/4.4M

Sixers lost Bellinelli and Ersan. What's their GM doi-- oh wait.
They aren't going to waste multi-year money on players like Bellinelli and Ilyasova.
Well the process is going through a delay if they get no one

They have to wait on LeBron, because you can’t pass up that chance.
Lol awesome
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: tazzmaniac on July 01, 2018, 01:14:44 AM
Belinelli 2yr/12m to the Spurs, Ed Davis to Nets 1yr/4.4M

Sixers lost Bellinelli and Ersan. What's their GM doi-- oh wait.
They aren't going to waste multi-year money on players like Bellinelli and Ilyasova.

They could've given them front loaded deals with partially or non guaranteed 2nd years. Roll over the cap space to next year, because they're clearly not getting a max guy this offseason.
If they don't get a max guy this offseason, they'll use their cap space to sign Redick and someone else (e.g. Ellington) to 1 year deals and try again next offseason.   
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Csfan1984 on July 01, 2018, 01:16:03 AM
Nothing on IT?

He's chasing down the brinks truck.
Is he cleared for running already?
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: RJ87 on July 01, 2018, 01:17:47 AM
Nothing on IT?

He's chasing down the brinks truck.
Is he cleared for running already?

I giggled. TP.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Neurotic Guy on July 01, 2018, 01:20:35 AM
Jordan to Mavs for 1 year 24M.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Beat LA on July 01, 2018, 01:21:15 AM
Nothing on IT?

He's chasing down the brinks truck.
Is he cleared for running already?

I giggled. TP.

As much as I hate to admit it, yeah, I laughed, too, so TP, lol  ;D.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: action781 on July 01, 2018, 01:22:58 AM
That Trevor Ariza to Phoenix just had me dumbfounded.

Why? Didn't they just gave up an unprotected 1st round pick to take a practically younger version of Ariza???
Apparently the owner wants to win now even though that's rather delusional.  Helps our Kings pick though.

I think this is a smart deal for Phoenix.  They weren't signing a truly elite FA this offseason.  Better to sign mediocre vets to 1 year deals rather than long-term deals which they will eventually regret.  I think they should continue doing this until they think they have a shot at difference making FA.  Also Trevor Ariza on a 1-year expiring $15M deal is great for salary matching purposes if a star player happens to come up on the trade block.  Further, while he's there he can be a good presence in the locker room to help Phoenix's young kids start to build a winning culture.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: tazzmaniac on July 01, 2018, 01:23:45 AM
The Rockets have 128.3M committed to 8 players and they haven't re-signed Capela yet. 
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: liam on July 01, 2018, 01:24:18 AM
How does Doug McDermott get a fully guaranteed three-year $22 million deal with the Indiana Pacers? That seems like a lot for McDermott.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on July 01, 2018, 01:24:48 AM
That Trevor Ariza to Phoenix just had me dumbfounded.

Why? Didn't they just gave up an unprotected 1st round pick to take a practically younger version of Ariza???
Apparently the owner wants to win now even though that's rather delusional.  Helps our Kings pick though.

I think this is a smart deal for Phoenix.  They weren't signing a truly elite FA this offseason.  Better to sign mediocre vets to 1 year deals rather than long-term deals which they will eventually regret.  I think they should continue doing this until they think they have a shot at difference making FA.  Also Trevor Ariza on a 1-year expiring $15M deal is great for salary matching purposes if a star player happens to come up on the trade block.  Further, while he's there he can be a good presence in the locker room to help Phoenix's young kids start to build a winning culture.

But you'd have to play him at some point. Who's going to have to sit, and gets his minutes cut, and maybe, his development too.

Can't they sign some other veteran for the same length, and the same money, that would make sense for them? Like a PG or a PF?
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: tazzmaniac on July 01, 2018, 01:27:44 AM
That Trevor Ariza to Phoenix just had me dumbfounded.

Why? Didn't they just gave up an unprotected 1st round pick to take a practically younger version of Ariza???
Apparently the owner wants to win now even though that's rather delusional.  Helps our Kings pick though.

I think this is a smart deal for Phoenix.  They weren't signing a truly elite FA this offseason.  Better to sign mediocre vets to 1 year deals rather than long-term deals which they will eventually regret.  I think they should continue doing this until they think they have a shot at difference making FA.  Also Trevor Ariza on a 1-year expiring $15M deal is great for salary matching purposes if a star player happens to come up on the trade block.  Further, while he's there he can be a good presence in the locker room to help Phoenix's young kids start to build a winning culture.
I agree it is better than signing a multi-year deal but I would have used that cap space to take on salary dump trades.  The few teams with cap space to do so are going to have great leverage. 
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: liam on July 01, 2018, 01:29:23 AM
That Trevor Ariza to Phoenix just had me dumbfounded.

Why? Didn't they just gave up an unprotected 1st round pick to take a practically younger version of Ariza???
Apparently the owner wants to win now even though that's rather delusional.  Helps our Kings pick though.

I think this is a smart deal for Phoenix.  They weren't signing a truly elite FA this offseason.  Better to sign mediocre vets to 1 year deals rather than long-term deals which they will eventually regret.  I think they should continue doing this until they think they have a shot at difference making FA.  Also Trevor Ariza on a 1-year expiring $15M deal is great for salary matching purposes if a star player happens to come up on the trade block.  Further, while he's there he can be a good presence in the locker room to help Phoenix's young kids start to build a winning culture.
I agree it is better than signing a multi-year deal but I would have used that cap space to take on salary dump trades.  The few teams with cap space to do so are going to have great leverage.

Who has space left as of now, Kings, Lakers, and Philly?
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: liam on July 01, 2018, 01:35:12 AM
The Clippers are in LA are they getting Kawhi?
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: tazzmaniac on July 01, 2018, 01:37:42 AM
That Trevor Ariza to Phoenix just had me dumbfounded.

Why? Didn't they just gave up an unprotected 1st round pick to take a practically younger version of Ariza???
Apparently the owner wants to win now even though that's rather delusional.  Helps our Kings pick though.

I think this is a smart deal for Phoenix.  They weren't signing a truly elite FA this offseason.  Better to sign mediocre vets to 1 year deals rather than long-term deals which they will eventually regret.  I think they should continue doing this until they think they have a shot at difference making FA.  Also Trevor Ariza on a 1-year expiring $15M deal is great for salary matching purposes if a star player happens to come up on the trade block.  Further, while he's there he can be a good presence in the locker room to help Phoenix's young kids start to build a winning culture.
I agree it is better than signing a multi-year deal but I would have used that cap space to take on salary dump trades.  The few teams with cap space to do so are going to have great leverage.

Who has space left as of now, Kings, Lakers, and Philly?
Add to that Bulls and Hawks 
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on July 01, 2018, 01:40:35 AM
That Trevor Ariza to Phoenix just had me dumbfounded.

Why? Didn't they just gave up an unprotected 1st round pick to take a practically younger version of Ariza???
Apparently the owner wants to win now even though that's rather delusional.  Helps our Kings pick though.

I think this is a smart deal for Phoenix.  They weren't signing a truly elite FA this offseason.  Better to sign mediocre vets to 1 year deals rather than long-term deals which they will eventually regret.  I think they should continue doing this until they think they have a shot at difference making FA.  Also Trevor Ariza on a 1-year expiring $15M deal is great for salary matching purposes if a star player happens to come up on the trade block.  Further, while he's there he can be a good presence in the locker room to help Phoenix's young kids start to build a winning culture.

Why not just give that money to, say, Avery Bradley?

Bradley can do pretty much everything you said, and he can at least be slotted at the PG spot where he doesn't take minutes away from the young guys that need it?
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: saltlover on July 01, 2018, 01:42:43 AM
That Trevor Ariza to Phoenix just had me dumbfounded.

Why? Didn't they just gave up an unprotected 1st round pick to take a practically younger version of Ariza???
Apparently the owner wants to win now even though that's rather delusional.  Helps our Kings pick though.

I think this is a smart deal for Phoenix.  They weren't signing a truly elite FA this offseason.  Better to sign mediocre vets to 1 year deals rather than long-term deals which they will eventually regret.  I think they should continue doing this until they think they have a shot at difference making FA.  Also Trevor Ariza on a 1-year expiring $15M deal is great for salary matching purposes if a star player happens to come up on the trade block.  Further, while he's there he can be a good presence in the locker room to help Phoenix's young kids start to build a winning culture.

Why not just give that money to, say, Avery Bradley?

Bradley can do pretty much everything you said, and he can at least be slotted at the PG spot where he doesn't take minutes away from the young guys that need it?

Because Bradley is constantly hurt and they have enough money given to veterans who can’t see the floor?
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Jack_Frost on July 01, 2018, 01:46:05 AM
Am i the only one worried about lebron in philly with kawhi?
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: saltlover on July 01, 2018, 01:46:39 AM
Am i the only one worried about lebron in philly with kawhi?

Yes.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: gouki88 on July 01, 2018, 01:50:58 AM
Am i the only one worried about lebron in philly with kawhi?

Yes.
Yeah, not worried about that
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
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Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
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Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: rondofan1255 on July 01, 2018, 02:26:35 AM
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Free agent guard Nik Stauskas has agreed to a deal with Portland, league sources tell ESPN.

https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/1013307520020934656

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less than two hours into free agency, 18 contracts have been verbally agreed to totaling at least $727.5 million

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https://twitter.com/mellentuck/status/1013296824583704577

Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Celtics4ever on July 01, 2018, 05:36:08 AM
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Am i the only one worried about lebron in philly with kawhi?

They have to let walk a lot of their guys to sign LeBron.   They will have to trade some to get Kawhi, so no I am not worried.

Belinelli just walked away to go to the Spurs.  Ilyasova went back to the Bucks.   It is already looking worse in Philly.

Lebron may go to LA to play with Cousins.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: apc on July 01, 2018, 06:32:48 AM
I wonder where IT ends up.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: dreamgreen on July 01, 2018, 07:59:15 AM
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Am i the only one worried about lebron in philly with kawhi?

They have to let walk a lot of their guys to sign LeBron.   They will have to trade some to get Kawhi, so no I am not worried.

Belinelli just walked away to go to the Spurs.  Ilyasova went back to the Bucks.   It is already looking worse in Philly.

Lebron may go to LA to play with Cousins.

Simmons and Lebron together would be a HORRIBLE fit!
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: footey on July 01, 2018, 08:03:53 AM
Why did DeAndre Jordan agree to only 1 year with Mavs? Did Cuban tell him if you want multi-year, no player options? 

Seems owners need to push back harder on that demand. Basically kills value of long term contract, and ownership bears all the risk if guy tanks or is injured.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: footey on July 01, 2018, 08:09:19 AM
If we sign Smart without going over tax, we should probably keep Morris until the trade deadline.

Hayward will take a while to get strong. Ditto Kyrie. So should be extra mi utes available. Plus good insurance policy if another injury occurs. I don’t think he had much trade value, at best highly protected 1st round pick, more realistically a 2nd round pick. If he complains due to lack of minutes, trade him later.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Csfan1984 on July 01, 2018, 08:25:04 AM
If we sign Smart without going over tax, we should probably keep Morris until the trade deadline.

Hayward will take a while to get strong. Ditto Kyrie. So should be extra mi utes available. Plus good insurance policy if another injury occurs. I don’t think he had much trade value, at best highly protected 1st round pick, more realistically a 2nd round pick. If he complains due to lack of minutes, trade him later.
I would keep him the whole year so long as he doesn't ask for a trade which could happen.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: tazzmaniac on July 01, 2018, 09:39:46 AM
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Am i the only one worried about lebron in philly with kawhi?

They have to let walk a lot of their guys to sign LeBron.   They will have to trade some to get Kawhi, so no I am not worried.

Belinelli just walked away to go to the Spurs.  Ilyasova went back to the Bucks.   It is already looking worse in Philly.

Lebron may go to LA to play with Cousins.
I really don't expect Lebron to sign with the Sixers.  However, they'd just need to salary dump Bayless to free up the cap space for Lebron.  They'd lose Amir but that isn't a big deal.  The big question would be Redick's willingness to sign for the room exception.  Considering how much Redick liked playing for the Sixers and would really fit well playing with Lebron, I think there is a pretty good chance that he would. 

The Spurs and Bucks stupidly gave multi-year deals to Belinelli and Ilyasova in a very tight cap space year.  Head-scratchingly bad decisions by both teams.  Both of them are easily replaceable and Belinelli's defense makes him a liability in the playoffs.  There are a lot of teams burning through their cap space so there are likely to be some pretty good players available for the Sixers to sign on 1 year deals. 

Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: dreamgreen on July 01, 2018, 09:55:15 AM
Who is left for big names?

Lebron
Cousins
?
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: saltlover on July 01, 2018, 09:57:58 AM
Why did DeAndre Jordan agree to only 1 year with Mavs? Did Cuban tell him if you want multi-year, no player options? 

Seems owners need to push back harder on that demand. Basically kills value of long term contract, and ownership bears all the risk if guy tanks or is injured.

He signed for the same amount as his player option that he declined.  The Clippers has given him permission to find a trading partner, but ultimately couldn’t come to terms with Dallas on a trade, so that’s what happened there.

Short contracts, overall, benefit the owners.  The revenue split is between 49-51% between players an owners.  This generally assumes that the mean team will spend about 5-7% over the cap.  When a lot of teams have cap room, that means that fewer of them will get to that 5-7% mark, since more of them will find it not possible to spend their cap dollars on players they deem worthy.  This means that owners collectively are likely to get 51% of the split rather than 49%.

For players like DeAndre Jordan, a short contract may work because he’ll get paid when a lot of teams are potential bidders, but on the whole this favors the owners, which is one reason why they pushed for shorter contract lengths in the CBA several years ago.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: celticinorlando on July 01, 2018, 10:00:51 AM
Who is left for big names?

Lebron
Cousins
?

James
Cousins
Redick

Eveyrthing else has been pretty much decided. James is going to take his time...Redick has to wait on him but he will most likely go back to philly. Philly is going to get shut out of max guys
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Birdman on July 01, 2018, 10:04:21 AM
Isaiah Thomas? Where he going
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: footey on July 01, 2018, 10:12:48 AM
Isaiah Thomas? Where he going

Hope he gets paid.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: saltlover on July 01, 2018, 10:14:37 AM
Isaiah Thomas? Where he going

Hope he gets paid.

Not until next year it seems.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: droopdog7 on July 01, 2018, 10:14:57 AM
Who is left for big names?

Lebron
Cousins
?

James
Cousins
Redick

Eveyrthing else has been pretty much decided. James is going to take his time...Redick has to wait on him but he will most likely go back to philly. Philly is going to get shut out of max guys
Smart.  He’s restricted, but he’s a big name around here.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Smartacus on July 01, 2018, 10:24:09 AM
Who is left for big names?

Lebron
Cousins
?

Clint Capela

The restricted market is still interesting.

Julius Randle
Aaron Gordon
Marcus Smart
Jabari Paker
Jusuf Nurkic
Zach Lavine

Derrick Favors
J.J. Reddick
Enes Kanter edit: picked up his option
Isaiah Thomas
Tyreke Evans
Fred Vanfleet edit: just resigned in Toronto
Avery Bradley
Kentavious Caldwell Pope(underrated IMO).

Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Tr1boy on July 01, 2018, 10:27:49 AM
Isaiah Thomas? Where he going

Hope he gets paid.

he won't

I think the most he will get is 8 million per season

prob best for him to sign a one year deal and then try to cash in next season

but time is running out for him for "back up the brinks truck"
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: tazzmaniac on July 01, 2018, 10:35:32 AM
Who is left for big names?

Lebron
Cousins
?

Clint Capela

The restricted market is still interesting.

Julius Randle
Aaron Gordon
Marcus Smart
Jabari Paker
Jusuf Nurkic
Zach Lavine

Derrick Favors
J.J. Reddick
Enes Kanter
Isaiah Thomas
Tyreke Evans
Fred Vanfleet
Avery Bradley
Kentavious Caldwell Pope(underrated IMO).
Kanter picked up his 18.6M option.   No lost brain cells on that decision. 

An even tougher than normal offseason for RFAs.  Several could end up signing 1 year deals. 
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Jack_Frost on July 01, 2018, 10:41:09 AM
Edit
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: celticinorlando on July 01, 2018, 10:48:09 AM
Vanfleet resigned in Toronto 2 for 18 mill
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Smartacus on July 01, 2018, 10:49:23 AM
Vanfleet resigned in Toronto 2 for 18 mill

Good for them looks like they'll be hitting that tax though.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: wiley on July 01, 2018, 10:49:37 AM
Glad to see Philly losing Belinelli and Ilyasova.

Where did Ilyasova go?

Bucks






can I have a TP   ;D
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: saltlover on July 01, 2018, 10:52:43 AM
Vanfleet resigned in Toronto 2 for 18 mill

Good for them looks like they'll be hitting that tax though.

So many teams (including the Celtics potentially) are going to be in the tax this year.  Non-tax teams could each get upwards of $10 million from the tax teams when everything is paid out.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: G-Bones on July 01, 2018, 11:07:18 AM
What is the skinny on Aaron Gordon?  Why is he not in hot demand status?  Young, athletic, and putting up good stats.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: tazzmaniac on July 01, 2018, 11:12:26 AM
What is the skinny on Aaron Gordon?  Why is he not in hot demand status?  Young, athletic, and putting up good stats.
He's a restricted free agent.  Very few teams have enough cap space to offer him a big enough contract that the Magic would not match.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Boris Badenov on July 01, 2018, 11:14:24 AM
What is the skinny on Aaron Gordon?  Why is he not in hot demand status?  Young, athletic, and putting up good stats.

He's restricted. Teams generally chase the UFAs first. If a team signs Gordon to an offer sheet now, it ties their hands until the other team decides to match or not, by which point a lot of the other good FAs could be signed.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: celticinorlando on July 01, 2018, 11:20:12 AM
James will meet with Philly. Not good for Boston.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: saltlover on July 01, 2018, 11:21:53 AM
James will meet with Philly. Not good for Boston.

Worse for LA and Cleveland.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: celticinorlando on July 01, 2018, 11:23:33 AM
James will not attend the meeting. Just his reps.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: tazzmaniac on July 01, 2018, 11:23:47 AM
James will meet with Philly. Not good for Boston.

Worse for LA and Cleveland.
Per Woj:  It will just be his reps not James himself today. 
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: CelticSooner on July 01, 2018, 11:25:10 AM
James will not attend the meeting. Just his reps.

I’m not going by myself, get me Kawhi and then we’ll talk.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: celticinorlando on July 01, 2018, 11:31:15 AM
James will not attend the meeting. Just his reps.

I’m not going by myself, get me Kawhi and then we’ll talk.

I don’t see Philly having enough to get Leonard without ripping their team in half.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Roy H. on July 01, 2018, 11:38:54 AM
James will not attend the meeting. Just his reps.

I’m not going by myself, get me Kawhi and then we’ll talk.

I don’t see Philly having enough to get Leonard without ripping their team in half.

Say the price is Saric + Fultz + Covington + Smith + #1. Philly would give that for Kawhi and Lebron easily, right?

Then see if Redick would take the room exception.

Embiid
Lebron
Kawhi
Redick
Simmons

Does the bench matter?
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: celticinorlando on July 01, 2018, 11:43:46 AM
James will not attend the meeting. Just his reps.

I’m not going by myself, get me Kawhi and then we’ll talk.

I don’t see Philly having enough to get Leonard without ripping their team in half.

Say the price is Saric + Fultz + Covington + Smith + #1. Philly would give that for Kawhi and Lebron easily, right?

They would but who is left to construct a bench?

Nick Wright saying James has made his decision and will announce Tuesday.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: rondofan1255 on July 01, 2018, 11:44:48 AM
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The Bucks will not waive guard Brandon Jennings at the deadline today thus making his $2.2 million contract guaranteed for next season, a source told ESPN's The Undefeated.

https://twitter.com/MarcJSpearsESPN/status/1013433708764749826
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: CelticSooner on July 01, 2018, 11:56:47 AM
James will not attend the meeting. Just his reps.

I’m not going by myself, get me Kawhi and then we’ll talk.

I don’t see Philly having enough to get Leonard without ripping their team in half.

Say the price is Saric + Fultz + Covington + Smith + #1. Philly would give that for Kawhi and Lebron easily, right?

Then see if Redick would take the room exception.

Embiid
Lebron
Kawhi
Redick
Simmons

Does the bench matter?

I’d say no. When you get to the conference Finals talent/stars finally matter and that is some serious talent.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: celticinorlando on July 01, 2018, 12:08:32 PM
Nick Wright who is James top fanboy says decision is made and James will announce Tuesday
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: liam on July 01, 2018, 12:08:42 PM
Vanfleet resigned in Toronto 2 for 18 mill


Too bad. VanVleet would've been a good pickup for the Suns.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: BringToughnessBack on July 01, 2018, 12:10:36 PM
If Sixers got Leonard and then Lebron, I would bet Kyrie flies the coup the following year to join forces with Durant on a new super team as they can both opt out- I do not want Lebron in the East on that Sixers team- they would be a brutal opponent for the next few years.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: BringToughnessBack on July 01, 2018, 12:13:14 PM
Nick Wright who is James top fanboy says decision is made and James will announce Tuesday

If true, then if Leonard is not traded to sixers in next day and a half, Lebron is not joining Sixers—right? And if he is traded to sixers, man down the hatches...
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: colincb on July 01, 2018, 12:18:47 PM
James will not attend the meeting. Just his reps.

I’m not going by myself, get me Kawhi and then we’ll talk.

I don’t see Philly having enough to get Leonard without ripping their team in half.

Say the price is Saric + Fultz + Covington + Smith + #1. Philly would give that for Kawhi and Lebron easily, right?

Then see if Redick would take the room exception.

Embiid
Lebron
Kawhi
Redick
Simmons

Does the bench matter?

I’d say no. When you get to the conference Finals talent/stars finally matter and that is some serious talent.
Given how little money's going to be around soon, you might be able to put a decent bench together with minimum contracts.

As for Redick taking the $4.4MM room exception, that would assume ring chasing is a bigger priority than money. JJR has links to BKN, so don't be surprised if he ends up there (or elsewhere) and the Sixers end up with not much 3 point shooting. Maybe Smart gets renounced if he waits too long and solves the Sixers problem.

EDIT: Seems like BKN is running out of cap room too per Bobby Marks.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: cltc5 on July 01, 2018, 12:18:55 PM
We gotta try to get Kawhi  if James goes to philly.  Smart, yabu, Nader and 3 picks
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: rondofan1255 on July 01, 2018, 02:08:36 PM
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Sources: Robinson will sign a two-year, $8.3M deal with the Pistons, including team option. Robinson has financial security and Detroit gets talented wing.

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1013485738229485569

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Heat have signed Derrick Jones Jr. to a two-year, $3.16M minimum-salary standard NBA contract. The first-year is fully guaranteed (at $1.51M) and the second-year is initially non-guaranteed (at $1.65M), per @flasportsbuzz.

https://twitter.com/AlbertNahmad/status/1013483668583665665

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The Dallas Mavericks will likely utilize remaining $5M in salary cap space to re-sign franchise cornerstone Dirk Nowitzki, league sources tell Yahoo. Nowitzki's $5M team option was declined before start of free agency to give Dallas flexibility.

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1013487713532641281
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: SparzWizard on July 01, 2018, 02:50:41 PM
We gotta try to get Kawhi  if James goes to philly.  Smart, yabu, Nader and 3 picks

They won't say yes unless we include Jayson Tatum (or very least, Jaylen Brown) with no promise of commitment.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: CelticSooner on July 01, 2018, 02:58:08 PM
Stein says LeBron and LA haven’t really talked. Lakers to meet with Capela per David Aldridge. That would be a nice way to blow your cap space. My dream of LeBron returning to Cleveland coming true?
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: celticinorlando on July 01, 2018, 03:06:01 PM
What are the Lakers doing? They did not get George last year and now this? They seem to be poorly ran.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Joyride on July 01, 2018, 03:07:10 PM
What are the Lakers doing? They did not get George last year and now this? They seem to be poorly ran.

But they have Magic Johnson. He’s the best GM in the league. (Insert sarcasm here)
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: RJ87 on July 01, 2018, 03:11:15 PM
What are the Lakers doing? They did not get George last year and now this? They seem to be poorly ran.

Too confident? Go all in on Kawhi now, get LeBron to commit, fill out the roster with exceptions and vet mins. Granted I haven't watched a ton of the Lakers, but is Brandon Ingram really worth missing out on Kawhi and whiffing on James?
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: hwangjini_1 on July 01, 2018, 04:25:05 PM
Nick Wright who is James top fanboy says decision is made and James will announce Tuesday

If true, then if Leonard is not traded to sixers in next day and a half, Lebron is not joining Sixers—right? And if he is traded to sixers, man down the hatches...
we are all just guessing here, but i dont see the spurs wanting fultz. i am not sure what the sixers would trade for kawhi that the spurs would take.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: rondofan1255 on July 01, 2018, 04:26:54 PM
What are the Lakers doing? They did not get George last year and now this? They seem to be poorly ran.

Too confident? Go all in on Kawhi now, get LeBron to commit, fill out the roster with exceptions and vet mins. Granted I haven't watched a ton of the Lakers, but is Brandon Ingram really worth missing out on Kawhi and whiffing on James?

Jaylen Brown > Ingram trade value IMO but Lakers fans will disagree so...
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: rondofan1255 on July 01, 2018, 05:04:59 PM
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One-year league minimum deal for Salah Mejri to stay with the Mavericks, according to league sources. Dallas' desire to bring Mejri back only rose after the draft-night acquisition of his former Real Madrid teammate Luka Doncic

https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine/status/1013510212794437632
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: jpotter33 on July 01, 2018, 06:03:10 PM
Have we heard anything about Smart yet? Haven’t even heard anything about meeting with Boston yet. Is this still due to everyone waiting on Lebron?
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: celticinorlando on July 01, 2018, 06:14:36 PM
Have we heard anything about Smart yet? Haven’t even heard anything about meeting with Boston yet. Is this still due to everyone waiting on Lebron?

Yep. None of the restricted have been talked about yet.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: celticinorlando on July 01, 2018, 06:18:34 PM
Windhorst says the plan is for James  to release something on the undefeated which James has a hand in.

Said it is Lakers, Cavs and sixers in that order

Him not being at the meeting with Philly is a sign he will take their offer under consideration but isn’t as serious because he did not attend

I tend to believe windhorst has been briefed by the James camp of the specifics of how its going down.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: jambr380 on July 01, 2018, 07:24:00 PM
Windhorst says the plan is for James  to release something on the undefeated which James has a hand in.

Said it is Lakers, Cavs and sixers in that order

Him not being at the meeting with Philly is a sign he will take their offer under consideration but isn’t as serious because he did not attend

I tend to believe windhorst has been briefed by the James camp of the specifics of how its going down.

Tp for the info and I tend to agree. I imagine Lebron isn’t really looking for drama on this ‘decision.’ But drama certainly follows Lebron in every direction.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: greece66 on July 01, 2018, 07:44:54 PM
(https://i.gyazo.com/325938ef9a19356209272e4be995dacd.png)

https://twitter.com/MarcJSpearsESPN/status/1013547298784079872
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Phantom255x on July 01, 2018, 07:48:41 PM
LOL the Lakers are getting desperate.

Now we'll hear how they are "showing interest, in talks, keeping eyes on, etc." for all the other players like Capela, Cousins, Tyreke Evans, Gordon, etc.  :laugh:

I still think they have a great shot at landing Lebron, but I doubt they'll be able to sign another max-caliber FA like Cousins or Capela to be honest. Not signing George definitely hampers their plans a bit.

Frankly, they are probably better off adding Lebron, keeping the young core (including Randle) and maybe adding another legit shooter like Reddick or something. A Kawhi trade likely still would cost them a ton.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: saltlover on July 01, 2018, 08:01:10 PM
LOL the Lakers are getting desperate.

Now we'll hear how they are "showing interest, in talks, keeping eyes on, etc." for all the other players like Capela, Cousins, Tyreke Evans, Gordon, etc.  :laugh:

I still think they have a great shot at landing Lebron, but I doubt they'll be able to sign another max-caliber FA like Cousins or Capela to be honest. Not signing George definitely hampers their plans a bit.

Frankly, they are probably better off adding Lebron, keeping the young core (including Randle) and maybe adding another legit shooter like Reddick or something. A Kawhi trade likely still would cost them a ton.

As long as they stay away from Smart.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Phantom255x on July 01, 2018, 08:03:40 PM
LOL the Lakers are getting desperate.

Now we'll hear how they are "showing interest, in talks, keeping eyes on, etc." for all the other players like Capela, Cousins, Tyreke Evans, Gordon, etc.  :laugh:

I still think they have a great shot at landing Lebron, but I doubt they'll be able to sign another max-caliber FA like Cousins or Capela to be honest. Not signing George definitely hampers their plans a bit.

Frankly, they are probably better off adding Lebron, keeping the young core (including Randle) and maybe adding another legit shooter like Reddick or something. A Kawhi trade likely still would cost them a ton.

As long as they stay away from Smart.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/gPTTdOsD3lEQw/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Neurotic Guy on July 01, 2018, 08:11:45 PM
ESPN2 is all Lakers all the time.  Nothing going the Lakers way so far in free agency but clearly ESPN believes the NBA is all about LAL.   

Wouldn’t it be interesting if the Lakers have to build a team like the rest of the NBA.  “Striking out” with regard to landing top FAs is the norm in the NBA. But Lakers fans just assume they’ll land who they want to land and are in disbelief when it doesn’t quite work as planned.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: rondofan1255 on July 01, 2018, 11:19:41 PM
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The Pelicans remain hopeful of re-signing point guard Rajon Rondo, league sources say, even after coming to terms tonight with free-agent guard Elfrid Payton

https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine/status/1013621598685888512

Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: SparzWizard on July 01, 2018, 11:27:56 PM
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The Pelicans remain hopeful of re-signing point guard Rajon Rondo, league sources say, even after coming to terms tonight with free-agent guard Elfrid Payton

https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine/status/1013621598685888512

What's next, Rondo to the Lakers? They need a PG lol
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: greece66 on July 02, 2018, 12:04:01 AM
(https://i.gyazo.com/54d77827d461717540e810b29004d72e.png)

https://twitter.com/MarcJSpearsESPN/status/1013547298784079872
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: GreenEnvy on July 02, 2018, 01:02:42 AM
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The Pelicans remain hopeful of re-signing point guard Rajon Rondo, league sources say, even after coming to terms tonight with free-agent guard Elfrid Payton

https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine/status/1013621598685888512

What's next, Rondo to the Lakers? They need a PG lol

Without any additional moves, they will only have about $9.5M in cap space.

If they stretch Deng, it will be around $19.3M.

They have room to do something, but not that much without a trade. I don’t think Ball is a good fit next to LeBron (nor would Rondo), but he does alleviate some of the ballhandling duties.

They still need a quality big, and a guy like Dwight isn’t the answer. LeBron thrives with floor spacers like Bosh and Love, not guys who clog the paint.

I understand the frenzy this has caused, but there is currently no reason to believe Lakers can beat Houston or Golden State. I don’t know if even Kawhi changes that.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Beat LA on July 02, 2018, 01:07:46 AM
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The Pelicans remain hopeful of re-signing point guard Rajon Rondo, league sources say, even after coming to terms tonight with free-agent guard Elfrid Payton

https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine/status/1013621598685888512

What's next, Rondo to the Lakers? They need a PG lol

Without any additional moves, they will only have about $9.5M in cap space.

If they stretch Deng, it will be around $19.3M.

They have room to do something, but not that much without a trade. I don’t think Ball is a good fit next to LeBron (nor would Rondo), but he does alleviate some of the ballhandling duties.

They still need a quality big, and a guy like Dwight isn’t the answer. LeBron thrives with floor spacers like Bosh and Love, not guys who clog the paint.

I understand the frenzy this has caused, but there is currently no reason to believe Lakers can beat Houston or Golden State. I don’t know if even Kawhi changes that.

He "made it work" ;) ::) ;D with Thompson, didn't he?
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: trickybilly on July 02, 2018, 02:11:55 AM
I hear the Warriors are talking to old friend Avery Bradley..

Hoooow does that work???

Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: rondofan1255 on July 02, 2018, 03:16:22 PM
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Wolves have withdrawn their qualifying offer on forward Nemanja Bjelica, per source.

https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/1013863663810285568?s=21
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: DefenseWinsChamps on July 02, 2018, 03:19:30 PM
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Wolves have withdrawn their qualifying offer on forward Nemanja Bjelica, per source.

https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/1013863663810285568?s=21

That's odd. That may mean they are trying to make a deal right now with their MLE.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Roy H. on July 02, 2018, 03:38:36 PM
I hear the Warriors are talking to old friend Avery Bradley..

Hoooow does that work???

They’ve got the Taxpayer MLE.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Fafnir on July 02, 2018, 03:40:28 PM
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Wolves have withdrawn their qualifying offer on forward Nemanja Bjelica, per source.

https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/1013863663810285568?s=21

That's odd. That may mean they are trying to make a deal right now with their MLE.
Or they got worried he'd take the QO and didn't want to pay him that on a one year deal they couldn't trade.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Fafnir on July 02, 2018, 03:45:19 PM
NM the Bjelica withdrawal was tied to the Tolliver signing that was just reported by Shams in all odds.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Roy H. on July 02, 2018, 03:55:39 PM
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Eric Woodyard: Just got the confirmation. Utah Jazz forward Derrick Favors has agreed to a 2-year deal for $36 million. Favors met with the Jazz brass in an Atlanta hotel yesterday for at least 4-5 hours, according to a source. His team was also in talks to a “couple other” teams as well

Give that man’s agent a raise.

Baynes at $5.3 million or Favors at $18 million?
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Fafnir on July 02, 2018, 04:03:18 PM
I like Favors as a C, but 18 is steep but its a one year deal so like Reddick its just a cap rolling over overpay.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: knuckleballer on July 02, 2018, 04:23:33 PM
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Eric Woodyard: Just got the confirmation. Utah Jazz forward Derrick Favors has agreed to a 2-year deal for $36 million. Favors met with the Jazz brass in an Atlanta hotel yesterday for at least 4-5 hours, according to a source. His team was also in talks to a “couple other” teams as well

Give that man’s agent a raise.

Baynes at $5.3 million or Favors at $18 million?

Give Ainge a raise.  He's been killing it the last few years or so.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: DefenseWinsChamps on July 02, 2018, 04:27:49 PM
I'm could be completely wrong. I have no information. But I did come up with an interesting narrative about the Noel move.

The Thunder intend to trade Steven Adams and stretch Melo in order to get under the tax.

Then, their big rotation would be Noel, Grant, Patterson, and another vet minimum guy.

My trade destinations are:

to Portland for CJ McCullom
to San Antonio with Abrines and multiple 1sts for Kawhi
to Cleveland with Singler for Love
to Washington with Singler for Porter
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Monkhouse on July 02, 2018, 04:32:59 PM
I'm could be completely wrong. I have no information. But I did come up with an interesting narrative about the Noel move.

The Thunder intend to trade Steven Adams and stretch Melo in order to get under the tax.

Then, their big rotation would be Noel, Grant, Patterson, and another vet minimum guy.

My trade destinations are:

to Portland for CJ McCullom
to San Antonio with Abrines and multiple 1sts for Kawhi
to Cleveland with Singler for Love
to Washington with Singler for Porter

You really think someone like Noel can replicate 1/4 of what Steven Adams brings to the table? Noel barely played any minutes the past few years, and stretching Melo would always help them accomplish their goal.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Fafnir on July 02, 2018, 04:33:17 PM
No way they're getting under the tax.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Fafnir on July 02, 2018, 04:36:41 PM
You really think someone like Noel can replicate 1/4 of what Steven Adams brings to the table? Noel barely played any minutes the past few years, and stretching Melo would always help them accomplish their goal.
There isn't cap space for them to ship Adams off to for this year anyways. They'd have to take salary back.

None of the teams who want to contend have that much space, and the teams who are still tanking wouldn't want Adams at that number. It'd remove their flexibility to rebuild properly.

So they're not ducking the tax this year, I do think they could end up trading Adams in a payroll move after this year though.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: GreenEnvy on July 02, 2018, 04:42:02 PM
I'm could be completely wrong. I have no information. But I did come up with an interesting narrative about the Noel move.

The Thunder intend to trade Steven Adams and stretch Melo in order to get under the tax.

Then, their big rotation would be Noel, Grant, Patterson, and another vet minimum guy.

My trade destinations are:

to Portland for CJ McCullom
to San Antonio with Abrines and multiple 1sts for Kawhi
to Cleveland with Singler for Love
to Washington with Singler for Porter

How can they swap out Adams for some of those contracts and get out of the tax? I didn’t check any of them but some may not even be legal trades. Stretching Melo still has them $13M over the tax. They would have to ship out like $45M+ in salary (just a guesstimate, others will know the exact number) just to save that $13M,m.

Not gonna happen. They are paying the tax for the foreseeable future.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: DefenseWinsChamps on July 02, 2018, 05:02:00 PM
I'm could be completely wrong. I have no information. But I did come up with an interesting narrative about the Noel move.

The Thunder intend to trade Steven Adams and stretch Melo in order to get under the tax.

Then, their big rotation would be Noel, Grant, Patterson, and another vet minimum guy.

My trade destinations are:

to Portland for CJ McCullom
to San Antonio with Abrines and multiple 1sts for Kawhi
to Cleveland with Singler for Love
to Washington with Singler for Porter

How can they swap out Adams for some of those contracts and get out of the tax? I didn’t check any of them but some may not even be legal trades. Stretching Melo still has them $13M over the tax. They would have to ship out like $45M+ in salary (just a guesstimate, others will know the exact number) just to save that $13M,m.

Not gonna happen. They are paying the tax for the foreseeable future.

According to shamsports (my new favorite thing), they could stretch Melo, then trade Adams and Singler for Dedmon (which would include a pretty sizeable trade exception going back to OKC).

That would leave them with 10 players, 7 million under the luxury tax, and a 24 million dollar trade exception.

Then they could trade for a guy on a large expiring contract into the trade exception. Wes Matthews, Demarre Carroll, Robin Lopez, Tyson Chandler, Kenneth Faried, Marcin Gortat, and more solid players are all available and if they were traded into the trade exception, they wouldn't count against the cap.

Not saying its likely. I'm just saying its possible.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Monkhouse on July 02, 2018, 05:02:42 PM
You really think someone like Noel can replicate 1/4 of what Steven Adams brings to the table? Noel barely played any minutes the past few years, and stretching Melo would always help them accomplish their goal.
There isn't cap space for them to ship Adams off to for this year anyways. They'd have to take salary back.

None of the teams who want to contend have that much space, and the teams who are still tanking wouldn't want Adams at that number. It'd remove their flexibility to rebuild properly.

So they're not ducking the tax this year, I do think they could end up trading Adams in a payroll move after this year though.

I agree, that was sort of my point. Who can they realistically take back to replace what Adams brings to the table without having issues/warts themselves, or even not getting the under the tax? Stretching Melo, and trying to sign some 1-2 year vet deals with team friendly options later this year would be more favorable since they can convince some teams next year to take on some of their other unnecessary contracts. Or just eat the cost of Melo's one year, and move forward with some more flexibility/ability to engineer different moves.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: saltlover on July 02, 2018, 05:03:08 PM
I'm could be completely wrong. I have no information. But I did come up with an interesting narrative about the Noel move.

The Thunder intend to trade Steven Adams and stretch Melo in order to get under the tax.

Then, their big rotation would be Noel, Grant, Patterson, and another vet minimum guy.

My trade destinations are:

to Portland for CJ McCullom
to San Antonio with Abrines and multiple 1sts for Kawhi
to Cleveland with Singler for Love
to Washington with Singler for Porter

How can they swap out Adams for some of those contracts and get out of the tax? I didn’t check any of them but some may not even be legal trades. Stretching Melo still has them $13M over the tax. They would have to ship out like $45M+ in salary (just a guesstimate, others will know the exact number) just to save that $13M,m.

Not gonna happen. They are paying the tax for the foreseeable future.

I mean, yes, they can ultimately not pay the tax, but the cost in draft picks could be very high.  They are in the repeater tax level, and will likely be there for this season and two more.  If they don’t move Adams, it’s very easy to project the Thunder to a $40 million tax both this year and next, assuming they stretch both Carmelo and Singler.  For a top 4 team in the conference at best.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Monkhouse on July 02, 2018, 05:04:32 PM
I'm could be completely wrong. I have no information. But I did come up with an interesting narrative about the Noel move.

The Thunder intend to trade Steven Adams and stretch Melo in order to get under the tax.

Then, their big rotation would be Noel, Grant, Patterson, and another vet minimum guy.

My trade destinations are:

to Portland for CJ McCullom
to San Antonio with Abrines and multiple 1sts for Kawhi
to Cleveland with Singler for Love
to Washington with Singler for Porter

How can they swap out Adams for some of those contracts and get out of the tax? I didn’t check any of them but some may not even be legal trades. Stretching Melo still has them $13M over the tax. They would have to ship out like $45M+ in salary (just a guesstimate, others will know the exact number) just to save that $13M,m.

Not gonna happen. They are paying the tax for the foreseeable future.

According to shamsports (my new favorite thing), they could stretch Melo, then trade Adams and Singler for Dedmon (which would include a pretty sizeable trade exception going back to OKC).

That would leave them with 10 players, 7 million under the luxury tax, and a 24 million dollar trade exception.

Not saying its likely. I'm just saying its possible.

Once again, signing PG-13 pretty much denies that innate ability to move contracts, because they already committed to trying to win a championship. If they trade Adams to get under the tax, that would not only alienate Russ, but also frustrate PG-13 in the same process. Not smart negotiation.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: rondofan1255 on July 02, 2018, 05:09:38 PM
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Can confirm. Wolves are now hard-capped.

Anthony Tolliver's one-year deal is worth $5.75 million

https://twitter.com/zachlowe_nba/status/1013888290615889922?s=21
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Mike Pemulis on July 02, 2018, 05:20:39 PM
Lakers renounce Randle. Pacers waive Al Jefferson.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Mike Pemulis on July 02, 2018, 05:23:57 PM
Rondo agrees to deal with Lakers.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: MattyIce on July 02, 2018, 05:25:57 PM
Rondo agrees to deal with Lakers.

this should be here

http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=96920.msg2538799#new
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Mike Pemulis on July 02, 2018, 05:38:02 PM
David Aldridge

Verified account
 
@daldridgetnt
 43s44 seconds ago

"Lakers certainly have cleared the path to @boogiecousins with their moves."
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Roy H. on July 02, 2018, 05:44:52 PM
David Aldridge

Verified account
 
@daldridgetnt
 43s44 seconds ago

"Lakers certainly have cleared the path to @boogiecousins with their moves."

What do they have for space?
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: knuckleballer on July 02, 2018, 05:49:48 PM
David Aldridge

Verified account
 
@daldridgetnt
 43s44 seconds ago

"Lakers certainly have cleared the path to @boogiecousins with their moves."

What do they have for space?

$13.8 mil per Bobby Marks

https://mobile.twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/1013894920615223296
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Mike Pemulis on July 02, 2018, 05:50:40 PM
I'm not positive, Roy. But Bobby Marks tweeted waiving Randle created 13.8 where another tweet from Mike Bresnahan reported it created 12.5M. So why sign Rondo right afterward at 9m if you're going for Boog?
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: blink on July 02, 2018, 05:52:19 PM
I'm not positive, Roy. But Bobby Marks tweeted waiving Randle created 13.8 where another tweet from Mike Bresnahan reported it created 12.5M. So why sign Rondo right afterward at 9m if you're going for Boog?

I don't know about the money, but I know Boogie has long been a fan of Rondo.
So the fit might make sense between those two.

The fit with Lebron and all the rest...smh lol.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: celticsclay on July 02, 2018, 06:04:30 PM
Crazy fact of the day. Deng is younger than Lebron.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: CelticSooner on July 02, 2018, 06:05:44 PM
NBA off season has eclipsed the regular season.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Birdman on July 02, 2018, 06:11:26 PM
NBA off season has eclipsed the regular season.
it usually does
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Birdman on July 02, 2018, 06:12:53 PM
July 2019 going to be all Lakers  :-[
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Monkhouse on July 02, 2018, 06:26:51 PM
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Teams that have $10M+ in cap space for Julius Randle include: Atlanta, Chicago, Philadelphia and Sacramento. The Nets could join the group but will depend on a potential Dwight Howard buyout.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: jpotter33 on July 02, 2018, 06:39:20 PM
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Teams that have $10M+ in cap space for Julius Randle include: Atlanta, Chicago, Philadelphia and Sacramento. The Nets could join the group but will depend on a potential Dwight Howard buyout.

He’d be a good get for both Atlanta and Brooklyn. Young talent and in a position of need with plenty of money to spend.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Csfan1984 on July 02, 2018, 06:51:40 PM
I'm not positive, Roy. But Bobby Marks tweeted waiving Randle created 13.8 where another tweet from Mike Bresnahan reported it created 12.5M. So why sign Rondo right afterward at 9m if you're going for Boog?
Boogie might not be ready to play till Jan by some estimates.  If there is that kind of delay he may except a pay cut if it's a 1+1 player option. That would be fair if his recovery takes a lot of time.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: KungPoweChicken on July 02, 2018, 07:08:03 PM
Isaiah Thomas for the minimum?
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: greece66 on July 03, 2018, 09:49:00 AM
(https://i.gyazo.com/3349282a93571f612f08b36fdbfb0233.png)

https://twitter.com/RealGM/status/1014139155872387072
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: gpap on July 03, 2018, 10:02:30 AM
July 2019 going to be all Lakers  :-[

The Lakers don't fear me in the least. Lebron didn't go there to win championships. He went there because of the nice weather, endorsements, and business ventures outside basketball.

They've got a misfit of toys for an NBA roster and wouldn't stand a prayer vs the Warriors in a 7 game series.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: TA9 on July 03, 2018, 10:55:10 AM
Me seeing all the other teams making moves:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DViL9cgX4AAPzQB.jpg)

But then again we only have one roster spot left haha
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: liam on July 03, 2018, 11:06:15 AM
Josh Smith is looking pretty good in pro-am league playing against Jaylen Brown!
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Monkhouse on July 03, 2018, 11:09:35 AM
Josh Smith is looking pretty good in pro-am league playing against Jaylen Brown!

Source? Haven't heard from him in forever lol.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Monkhouse on July 03, 2018, 11:10:35 AM
Isaiah Thomas just followed Orlando Magic on twitter.

Interesting.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: liam on July 03, 2018, 11:19:28 AM
Josh Smith is looking pretty good in pro-am league playing against Jaylen Brown!

Source? Haven't heard from him in forever lol.

I think he's still getting paid on that Pistons buy out....

https://www.celticsblog.com/2018/7/3/17530572/jaylen-brown-boston-celtics-lights-it-up-in-pro-am-league
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Fafnir on July 03, 2018, 11:22:46 AM
I'm not surprised Josh Smith is a solid pick up basketball player. He always had the talent and skills, just didn't ever play a good team game within them once his athleticism wasn't out of this world.

The league trending smaller and quicker at the PF also hurt him, less of an advantage.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: celticsclay on July 03, 2018, 12:44:31 PM
Howard interested in joining lakers:

https://www.lakersnation.com/nba-free-agent-rumors-dwight-howard-interest-signing-lakers-lebron-james-teammates/2018/07/03/
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: liam on July 03, 2018, 01:38:51 PM
I'm not surprised Josh Smith is a solid pick up basketball player. He always had the talent and skills, just didn't ever play a good team game within them once his athleticism wasn't out of this world.

The league trending smaller and quicker at the PF also hurt him, less of an advantage.

He would be a good small ball center in CBS system.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Fafnir on July 03, 2018, 02:02:07 PM
I'm not surprised Josh Smith is a solid pick up basketball player. He always had the talent and skills, just didn't ever play a good team game within them once his athleticism wasn't out of this world.

The league trending smaller and quicker at the PF also hurt him, less of an advantage.

He would be a good small ball center in CBS system.
No. He couldn't even earn minutes with NOP last year after being out of the league. His days of being a versatile athletic big are over and he never picked up how to play team basketball at a high level to stay in the league.

He's done.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: liam on July 03, 2018, 02:08:41 PM
I'm not surprised Josh Smith is a solid pick up basketball player. He always had the talent and skills, just didn't ever play a good team game within them once his athleticism wasn't out of this world.

The league trending smaller and quicker at the PF also hurt him, less of an advantage.

He would be a good small ball center in CBS system.
No. He couldn't even earn minutes with NOP last year after being out of the league. His days of being a versatile athletic big are over and he never picked up how to play team basketball at a high level to stay in the league.

He's done.

Fair enough but if anyone could get something out of him it would be Brad and Horford ( former teamamte...)
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: rondofan1255 on July 03, 2018, 04:18:51 PM
12.8M for Chandler for 2018-2019

Quote
The 76ers have the salary cap space to absorb Wilson Chandler, a starting-caliber SF, from Denver.

The Philadelphia 76ers are in close discussions on deal to acquire Denver Nuggets forward Wilson Chandler, league sources tell Yahoo.

https://twitter.com/shamscharania/status/1014241081867800576?s=21
https://twitter.com/shamscharania/status/1014241544323334145?s=21

Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Monkhouse on July 03, 2018, 04:32:21 PM
I'm not surprised Josh Smith is a solid pick up basketball player. He always had the talent and skills, just didn't ever play a good team game within them once his athleticism wasn't out of this world.

The league trending smaller and quicker at the PF also hurt him, less of an advantage.

Funny thing is his skill set could be valuable or useful... If he learned how to stop taking so many 3's, and focusing on playing smart basketball.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Surferdad on July 03, 2018, 04:36:46 PM
I'm not surprised Josh Smith is a solid pick up basketball player. He always had the talent and skills, just didn't ever play a good team game within them once his athleticism wasn't out of this world.

The league trending smaller and quicker at the PF also hurt him, less of an advantage.

Funny thing is his skill set could be valuable or useful... If he learned how to stop taking so many 3's, and focusing on playing smart basketball.
I would argue that he needed to learn how to make 3’s at a higher rate, not stop taking them.  If he had, he would have fit in nicely in today’s NBA and could have had a longer career.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Monkhouse on July 03, 2018, 04:39:58 PM
I'm not surprised Josh Smith is a solid pick up basketball player. He always had the talent and skills, just didn't ever play a good team game within them once his athleticism wasn't out of this world.

The league trending smaller and quicker at the PF also hurt him, less of an advantage.

Funny thing is his skill set could be valuable or useful... If he learned how to stop taking so many 3's, and focusing on playing smart basketball.
I would argue that he needed to learn how to make 3’s at a higher rate, not stop taking them.  If he had, he would have fit in nicely in today’s NBA and could have had a longer career.

Well the gist of my point is that he got too trigger happy, and started taking more 3's than necessary which coincided with his terrible 3P %.

But yeah, I agree. His playmaking/defense and under the guidance of a good coach could've resulted in a lengthy career.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: gouki88 on July 03, 2018, 04:43:08 PM
I'm not surprised Josh Smith is a solid pick up basketball player. He always had the talent and skills, just didn't ever play a good team game within them once his athleticism wasn't out of this world.

The league trending smaller and quicker at the PF also hurt him, less of an advantage.

Funny thing is his skill set could be valuable or useful... If he learned how to stop taking so many 3's, and focusing on playing smart basketball.
I would argue that he needed to learn how to make 3’s at a higher rate, not stop taking them.  If he had, he would have fit in nicely in today’s NBA and could have had a longer career.

Well the gist of my point is that he got too trigger happy, and started taking more 3's than necessary which coincided with his terrible 3P %.

But yeah, I agree. His playmaking/defense and under the guidance of a good coach could've resulted in a lengthy career.
Such a waste of talent. Crazy that a guy who had a 7 year spell of averaging 17/8/3.5/2/1.4 and making an All-Defensive team is considered a considerable waste, lol. What could've been
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: liam on July 03, 2018, 05:22:07 PM
Is Jimmy Butler on the market? What would it take to get him? Picks and Smart in a sign and trade? Bulter would replace everything Smart does and Butler does more.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: MattyIce on July 03, 2018, 05:59:31 PM
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Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: GreenEnvy on July 03, 2018, 06:23:40 PM
Is Jimmy Butler on the market? What would it take to get him? Picks and Smart in a sign and trade? Bulter would replace everything Smart does and Butler does more.

Butler will never be ok with Smart’s role as sixth man.

And I wouldn’t ant him stunting Brown’s growth, as I think his ceiling may be higher than Butler’s.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: liam on July 03, 2018, 08:13:54 PM
Is Jimmy Butler on the market? What would it take to get him? Picks and Smart in a sign and trade? Bulter would replace everything Smart does and Butler does more.

Butler will never be ok with Smart’s role as sixth man.

And I wouldn’t ant him stunting Brown’s growth, as I think his ceiling may be higher than Butler’s.

Butler would start, I was just saying he's a great defender and hustle player. He's like a super Marcus. I think Jaylen would be the sixth man.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: tazzmaniac on July 03, 2018, 08:18:27 PM
Is Jimmy Butler on the market? What would it take to get him? Picks and Smart in a sign and trade? Bulter would replace everything Smart does and Butler does more.
Butler isn't on the market.  The TWolves are going to offer him an extension but of course it is not financially advantageous for him so he wouldn't sign it.  He'll be a free agent next offseason. 
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Surferdad on July 03, 2018, 08:45:49 PM
Is Jimmy Butler on the market? What would it take to get him? Picks and Smart in a sign and trade? Bulter would replace everything Smart does and Butler does more.
Butler isn't on the market.  The TWolves are going to offer him an extension but of course it is not financially advantageous for him so he wouldn't sign it.  He'll be a free agent next offseason.
It’s essentially the same situation that Kyrie has. 
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Mike Pemulis on July 03, 2018, 09:34:52 PM
IT negotiating a deal with the Magic per Alex Kennedy of Hoops Hype.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: SparzWizard on July 03, 2018, 09:53:26 PM
IT negotiating a deal with the Magic per Alex Kennedy of Hoops Hype.

My, my....how a year ago we went from fantasizing a starting lineup of IT4, Brown, Hayward, Horford, and Baynes with IT4 demanding a brinks truck to the Celtics 8 points shy of eliminating LBJ in the ECF and going into the Finals with a lineup of Rozier/Brown/Tatum/Horford/Baynes.

Now IT is on his way to Disney World...  :o
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Phantom255x on July 03, 2018, 09:54:26 PM
IT negotiating a deal with the Magic per Alex Kennedy of Hoops Hype.

Very happy for him. Hope he gets paid well by Orlando (even if it's just a 1 or 2 year deal).  ;D
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: CelticSooner on July 03, 2018, 10:00:58 PM
Well Orlando does need a PG.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Phantom255x on July 03, 2018, 10:08:39 PM
Well Orlando does need a PG.

Too late. He re-signed with OKC.

 :laugh:
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: greece66 on July 04, 2018, 03:47:12 AM
(https://i.gyazo.com/48db73a65b58d743c9ed378748c61424.png)

https://twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA/status/1014248999245803520
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Surferdad on July 04, 2018, 06:50:56 AM
Lakers looking to trade for Damian Lillard or John Wall, in case Kawhi talks break down, or as a way to pressure SAS.

- NBA Draft Fever, NBA-TV, 7/3/2018
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: gouki88 on July 04, 2018, 06:57:51 AM
Lakers looking to trade for Damian Lillard or John Wall, in case Kawhi talks break down, or as a way to pressure SAS.

- NBA Draft Fever, NBA-TV, 7/3/2018
Lol, Lonzo becoming the 3rd string PG would be beautiful
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Csfan1984 on July 04, 2018, 07:03:50 AM
Magic should deal Isaac or a first for Rozier. IT is a waste of $ right now.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: greece66 on July 04, 2018, 07:59:09 AM
Sixers reporters trying to make Fultz's stock go up

(https://i.gyazo.com/5f37aef64b2d0b88852f2b5f82bd3f76.png)

https://twitter.com/therealmikekb/status/1014361747606601729
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: BitterJim on July 04, 2018, 08:01:42 AM
Magic should deal Isaac or a first for Rozier. IT is a waste of $ right now.

Of we bring in IT to replace him, I'd be all for it
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: mahonedog88 on July 04, 2018, 08:06:26 AM
This makes me nervous, because wasn't the team just recently floating out there in the media that Fultz was a Colangelo pick and that not many others in the draft room were on board with it.

And now with the trade for Wilson Chandler, they've got a little more wiggle room to deal guys like Covington, Saric, or Zaire Smith, plus Fultz if they want to throw him in.  I still haven't shut the door on the possibility of that happening.  And it scares the crap out of me.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Csfan1984 on July 04, 2018, 08:57:57 AM
Magic should deal Isaac or a first for Rozier. IT is a waste of $ right now.

Of we bring in IT to replace him, I'd be all for it
I didn't think of that. But if Smart is still here IT can rehab and return when 100% so that is a little different in C's getting him. But for Magic they need a starter.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Neurotic Guy on July 04, 2018, 10:12:04 AM
Magic should deal Isaac or a first for Rozier. IT is a waste of $ right now.

Of we bring in IT to replace him, I'd be all for it
I didn't think of that. But if Smart is still here IT can rehab and return when 100% so that is a little different in C's getting him. But for Magic they need a starter.

For whatever reason (and I bet it’s valid) Cs don’t seem interested in IT (of course they could be, but no evidence of such).   If the choice were IT v. Rozier, I’m pretty sure I’d take Terry based on his ability not  to be a huge defensive liability.    Given your scenario I guess it would depend on what Danny gets back from Orlando.  Doubt any of this is in the realm of real. 
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Celtics4ever on July 04, 2018, 10:51:23 AM
Sixers reporters trying to make Fultz's stock go up

(https://i.gyazo.com/5f37aef64b2d0b88852f2b5f82bd3f76.png)

https://twitter.com/therealmikekb/status/1014361747606601729

I would give up on Fultz in a heart and so would Philly.

They were willing to trade him on draft night

Quote
Markelle Fultz was on the trade block Thursday night as the NBA draft unfolded, The Philadelphia Inquirer reported.

According to the report, the 76ers had "internal conversations" about making a package deal with their No. 10 and 26 picks in order to move into the top five.

However, teams reportedly weren't interested in a player who is relearning to shoot and coming off a severe shoulder injury.

Even though the Sixers put Fultz up for sale, they know if they play their cards right with him he could re-emerge as a top player.

Fultz, the 2017 No. 1 overall pick, is expected to join with Ben Simmons and Joel Embiid as part of the 76ers young core of players. The team is also working hard with Fultz to reteach him how to shoot.

http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/news/nba-trade-rumors-markelle-fultz-76ers-stats-trade-block-injury-jump-shot/6b7yc9nm0ub218a6gmn476m5h

So quit acting like Fultz is untouchable he is not.  They would trade him a heart beat and were going to use him to move up.   He is badly damaged goods.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: tazzmaniac on July 04, 2018, 10:58:23 AM
Sixers reporters trying to make Fultz's stock go up

(https://i.gyazo.com/5f37aef64b2d0b88852f2b5f82bd3f76.png)

https://twitter.com/therealmikekb/status/1014361747606601729

I would give up on Fultz in a heart and so would Philly.

They were willing to trade him on draft night

Quote
Markelle Fultz was on the trade block Thursday night as the NBA draft unfolded, The Philadelphia Inquirer reported.

According to the report, the 76ers had "internal conversations" about making a package deal with their No. 10 and 26 picks in order to move into the top five.

However, teams reportedly weren't interested in a player who is relearning to shoot and coming off a severe shoulder injury.

Even though the Sixers put Fultz up for sale, they know if they play their cards right with him he could re-emerge as a top player.

Fultz, the 2017 No. 1 overall pick, is expected to join with Ben Simmons and Joel Embiid as part of the 76ers young core of players. The team is also working hard with Fultz to reteach him how to shoot.

http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/news/nba-trade-rumors-markelle-fultz-76ers-stats-trade-block-injury-jump-shot/6b7yc9nm0ub218a6gmn476m5h

So quit acting like Fultz is untouchable he is not.  They would trade him a heart beat and were going to use him to move up.   He is badly damaged goods.
They'd only give up Fultz if Kawhi makes a commitment to re-sign.  Giving up Fultz on a 1 year rental would be stupid.  While his value is low right now, he's not going to have to do all that much to improve it significantly. 
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Chief Macho on July 04, 2018, 11:51:03 AM
If Kawhi is interested in the sixers,  why the hell wouldn't he be interested in the Celtics?   I would get it if it was a weather thing, but philly and boston, what's the difference?
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: JBcat on July 04, 2018, 12:00:08 PM
If Kawhi is interested in the sixers,  why the hell wouldn't he be interested in the Celtics?   I would get it if it was a weather thing, but philly and boston, what's the difference?

I thought I read somewhere he has family in Philly.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: DefenseWinsChamps on July 04, 2018, 01:18:26 PM
Keith Smith
@KeithSmithNBA
Sources: The Boston Celtics and Marcus Smart have had good dialogue on a new deal. Still not there, but neither side is in a rush. With cap space drying up around the league, it lessens need to rush to a new contract.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: SparzWizard on July 04, 2018, 02:31:09 PM
Keith Smith
@KeithSmithNBA
Sources: The Boston Celtics and Marcus Smart have had good dialogue on a new deal. Still not there, but neither side is in a rush. With cap space drying up around the league, it lessens need to rush to a new contract.

Dante Exum signed for $11M per season, so I'm thinking Smart is demanding that typa money.

C's could give him a 1-year/$11M deal. If he demands more he is out. His shooting/offensive game has been disappointing to me so he shouldn't demand for more lol.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Phantom255x on July 04, 2018, 02:43:50 PM
Keith Smith
@KeithSmithNBA
Sources: The Boston Celtics and Marcus Smart have had good dialogue on a new deal. Still not there, but neither side is in a rush. With cap space drying up around the league, it lessens need to rush to a new contract.

Dante Exum signed for $11M per season, so I'm thinking Smart is demanding that typa money.

C's could give him a 1-year/$11M deal. If he demands more he is out. His shooting/offensive game has been disappointing to me so he shouldn't demand for more lol.

Honestly, I'd gladly give him 3/33M, or 4/40M.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Surferdad on July 04, 2018, 05:57:13 PM
Keith Smith
@KeithSmithNBA
Sources: The Boston Celtics and Marcus Smart have had good dialogue on a new deal. Still not there, but neither side is in a rush. With cap space drying up around the league, it lessens need to rush to a new contract.

Dante Exum signed for $11M per season, so I'm thinking Smart is demanding that typa money.

C's could give him a 1-year/$11M deal. If he demands more he is out. His shooting/offensive game has been disappointing to me so he shouldn't demand for more lol.
I don’t think they are allowed to do exactly that.  They can offer the QO or match other teams’ offers.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: saltlover on July 04, 2018, 06:00:42 PM
Keith Smith
@KeithSmithNBA
Sources: The Boston Celtics and Marcus Smart have had good dialogue on a new deal. Still not there, but neither side is in a rush. With cap space drying up around the league, it lessens need to rush to a new contract.

Dante Exum signed for $11M per season, so I'm thinking Smart is demanding that typa money.

C's could give him a 1-year/$11M deal. If he demands more he is out. His shooting/offensive game has been disappointing to me so he shouldn't demand for more lol.
I don’t think they are allowed to do exactly that.  They can offer the QO or match other teams’ offers.

No, they can sign him to any contract allowable with Bird rights.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: saltlover on July 04, 2018, 06:01:40 PM
Keith Smith
@KeithSmithNBA
Sources: The Boston Celtics and Marcus Smart have had good dialogue on a new deal. Still not there, but neither side is in a rush. With cap space drying up around the league, it lessens need to rush to a new contract.

Dante Exum signed for $11M per season, so I'm thinking Smart is demanding that typa money.

C's could give him a 1-year/$11M deal. If he demands more he is out. His shooting/offensive game has been disappointing to me so he shouldn't demand for more lol.

Honestly, I'd gladly give him 3/33M, or 4/40M.

I’m rooting for 5/$58M.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: greece66 on July 06, 2018, 10:05:27 AM
(https://i.gyazo.com/4d1f13951276e58247e9b5f5f3b15ab8.png)

https://twitter.com/BlazersBySagar/status/1014997223795376129
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: greece66 on July 06, 2018, 10:07:23 AM
(https://i.gyazo.com/8fde343c723dfab3226951b53f161c83.png)

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/8waxmt/windhorst_on_the_lakers_signings_following_lebron/?utm_content=comments&utm_medium=user&utm_source=reddit&utm_name=u_greece666
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Monkhouse on July 06, 2018, 10:07:37 AM
(https://i.gyazo.com/4d1f13951276e58247e9b5f5f3b15ab8.png)

https://twitter.com/BlazersBySagar/status/1014997223795376129

Doubt that would happen... Why would he even take the Q/O? Unless he wants out from the Rockets. Taking Q/O really limits what financial avenues Rockets can sign him to.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: greece66 on July 06, 2018, 10:08:29 AM
(https://i.gyazo.com/e50dad709dca6d21462b4b647cbf93b0.png)

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/celtics/2018/07/marcus_smart_hurt_that_celtics_have_not_spoken_to_him_about_new_contract?amp&__twitter_impression=true
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: saltlover on July 06, 2018, 10:10:00 AM
(https://i.gyazo.com/e50dad709dca6d21462b4b647cbf93b0.png)

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/celtics/2018/07/marcus_smart_hurt_that_celtics_have_not_spoken_to_him_about_new_contract?amp&__twitter_impression=true

This is in like three threads already.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: saltlover on July 06, 2018, 10:12:25 AM
(https://i.gyazo.com/4d1f13951276e58247e9b5f5f3b15ab8.png)

https://twitter.com/BlazersBySagar/status/1014997223795376129

Doubt that would happen... Why would he even take the Q/O? Unless he wants out from the Rockets. Taking Q/O really limits what financial avenues Rockets can sign him to.

It’s a negotiating ploy right now.  There is no market this year for him, so Capela’s agent is reminding the Rockets there could be a very large market for him next year, and to give him offers this summer that reflect next year’s market.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: greece66 on July 06, 2018, 10:16:38 AM
(https://i.gyazo.com/e50dad709dca6d21462b4b647cbf93b0.png)

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/celtics/2018/07/marcus_smart_hurt_that_celtics_have_not_spoken_to_him_about_new_contract?amp&__twitter_impression=true

This is in like three threads already.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: greece66 on July 06, 2018, 10:18:31 AM
(https://i.gyazo.com/3eac3ddfaa000409dc237ee0d39cbd84.png)

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/8wbx7h/wojnarowski_the_restricted_free_agent_market_is/
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: greece66 on July 06, 2018, 10:42:59 AM
(https://i.gyazo.com/991039e3a0c961d8efe905fd007b5f9f.png)

https://sports.yahoo.com/report-cavaliers-looking-unload-love-174811019--spt.html
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: saltlover on July 06, 2018, 10:52:13 AM
(https://i.gyazo.com/991039e3a0c961d8efe905fd007b5f9f.png)

https://sports.yahoo.com/report-cavaliers-looking-unload-love-174811019--spt.html

Is Cleveland taking back Deng? Otherwise a Love deal is flat impossible right now.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: celticsclay on July 06, 2018, 10:56:29 AM
(https://i.gyazo.com/991039e3a0c961d8efe905fd007b5f9f.png)

https://sports.yahoo.com/report-cavaliers-looking-unload-love-174811019--spt.html

Is Cleveland taking back Deng? Otherwise a Love deal is flat impossible right now.

They are already in cap hell and Gilbert will spend. If they can get kuzma or ball I think that is a good trade for them
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: greece66 on July 06, 2018, 02:38:22 PM
(https://i.gyazo.com/33c35b974afc1b041816f1bdddd63fa2.png)

https://twitter.com/ESPNLosAngeles/status/1015273525903384576

Edit: there s also this

(https://i.gyazo.com/fa6f2487dc4685f195222883385286d2.png)

https://twitter.com/ramonashelburne/status/1015292185296551936
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: SparzWizard on July 06, 2018, 10:49:11 PM
The Orlando Magic are rumored to be in heavy pursuit of Celtics guard Terry Rozier. Although attempts have been unsuccessful. Signing Isaiah Thomas is supposedly their "plan B" #CelticsDaily
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: hpantazo on July 06, 2018, 10:54:24 PM
The Orlando Magic are rumored to be in heavy pursuit of Celtics guard Terry Rozier. Although attempts have been unsuccessful. Signing Isaiah Thomas is supposedly their "plan B" #CelticsDaily

Rozier's not a free agent though. They would have to come with a really good offer if they hope Ainge would even consider talking to them.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Phantom255x on July 06, 2018, 10:55:55 PM
The Orlando Magic are rumored to be in heavy pursuit of Celtics guard Terry Rozier. Although attempts have been unsuccessful. Signing Isaiah Thomas is supposedly their "plan B" #CelticsDaily

Rozier's not a free agent though. They would have to come with a really good offer if they hope Ainge would even consider talking to them.

FINE!

Bamba for Rozier straight up!  ;D
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Csfan1984 on July 06, 2018, 10:58:12 PM
Hope Magic get Rozier he earned a chance to start. But C's have to be on hold till Smart signs his QO
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: hpantazo on July 06, 2018, 11:03:17 PM
The Orlando Magic are rumored to be in heavy pursuit of Celtics guard Terry Rozier. Although attempts have been unsuccessful. Signing Isaiah Thomas is supposedly their "plan B" #CelticsDaily

Rozier's not a free agent though. They would have to come with a really good offer if they hope Ainge would even consider talking to them.

FINE!

Bamba for Rozier straight up!  ;D

Yeah, I mean, outside of Bamba and Isaac, anyone else on there worth Rozier is paid way too much for us to deal for them without giving up another rotation player in addition to Rozier.

Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Kevins Gamble on July 07, 2018, 12:38:21 AM
(https://i.gyazo.com/33c35b974afc1b041816f1bdddd63fa2.png)

https://twitter.com/ESPNLosAngeles/status/1015273525903384576

Edit: there s also this

(https://i.gyazo.com/fa6f2487dc4685f195222883385286d2.png)

https://twitter.com/ramonashelburne/status/1015292185296551936


And then Ramona Shelburne said "no fan base hates the Lakers more than Portland..." and all of New England collectively muttered: "That's adorable".
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: colincb on July 07, 2018, 01:43:21 AM
Quote
@stevekylerNBA
 1h1 hour ago
More
So word in Vegas is Orlando Magic talked with Isaiah Thomas but unlikely to move forward with a deal. Magic may hold the line at this point and see what else develops. They want to stay flexible in case something opens up. Did it last year with Jonathan Simmons
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Somebody on July 07, 2018, 03:37:57 AM
Quote
@stevekylerNBA
 1h1 hour ago
More
So word in Vegas is Orlando Magic talked with Isaiah Thomas but unlikely to move forward with a deal. Magic may hold the line at this point and see what else develops. They want to stay flexible in case something opens up. Did it last year with Jonathan Simmons
Could he be in play for the MLE if Rozier is moved?
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: saltlover on July 07, 2018, 08:27:48 AM
Quote
@stevekylerNBA
 1h1 hour ago
More
So word in Vegas is Orlando Magic talked with Isaiah Thomas but unlikely to move forward with a deal. Magic may hold the line at this point and see what else develops. They want to stay flexible in case something opens up. Did it last year with Jonathan Simmons
Could he be in play for the MLE if Rozier is moved?

Unlikely but never say never.  I think he’s more likely in play if Smart leaves, due to corresponding salaries.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: dreamgreen on July 07, 2018, 08:48:58 AM
(https://i.gyazo.com/991039e3a0c961d8efe905fd007b5f9f.png)

https://sports.yahoo.com/report-cavaliers-looking-unload-love-174811019--spt.html

Is Cleveland taking back Deng? Otherwise a Love deal is flat impossible right now.

They are already in cap hell and Gilbert will spend. If they can get kuzma or ball I think that is a good trade for them

That would actually be funny if Ball got traded to Cleveland! Him and his daddy would be in tears lol!
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: dreamgreen on July 07, 2018, 08:56:23 AM
The Orlando Magic are rumored to be in heavy pursuit of Celtics guard Terry Rozier. Although attempts have been unsuccessful. Signing Isaiah Thomas is supposedly their "plan B" #CelticsDaily

Rozier's not a free agent though. They would have to come with a really good offer if they hope Ainge would even consider talking to them.

Would you take their pick next year? It will most likely be a lottery pick.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Rakulp on July 07, 2018, 10:21:52 AM
The Orlando Magic are rumored to be in heavy pursuit of Celtics guard Terry Rozier. Although attempts have been unsuccessful. Signing Isaiah Thomas is supposedly their "plan B" #CelticsDaily

Rozier's not a free agent though. They would have to come with a really good offer if they hope Ainge would even consider talking to them.

Would you take their pick next year? It will most likely be a lottery pick.
Only if it were totally unprotected...even then, I'd have to think twice about it.  Might would depend on the plan to replace Rozier, who would fill those shoes?
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: dreamgreen on July 07, 2018, 10:31:26 AM
The Orlando Magic are rumored to be in heavy pursuit of Celtics guard Terry Rozier. Although attempts have been unsuccessful. Signing Isaiah Thomas is supposedly their "plan B" #CelticsDaily

Rozier's not a free agent though. They would have to come with a really good offer if they hope Ainge would even consider talking to them.

Would you take their pick next year? It will most likely be a lottery pick.
Only if it were totally unprotected...even then, I'd have to think twice about it.  Might would depend on the plan to replace Rozier, who would fill those shoes?

Well I guess that makes more room to sign Smart if you're into that idea.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: JBcat on July 07, 2018, 10:40:17 AM
The Orlando Magic are rumored to be in heavy pursuit of Celtics guard Terry Rozier. Although attempts have been unsuccessful. Signing Isaiah Thomas is supposedly their "plan B" #CelticsDaily

Rozier's not a free agent though. They would have to come with a really good offer if they hope Ainge would even consider talking to them.

Would you take their pick next year? It will most likely be a lottery pick.
Only if it were totally unprotected...even then, I'd have to think twice about it.  Might would depend on the plan to replace Rozier, who would fill those shoes?

I would see if we can do a reverse protection say 11-30, and if the pick is not in the top 10 it rolls over into something else.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: bogg on July 07, 2018, 02:11:47 PM
The Orlando Magic are rumored to be in heavy pursuit of Celtics guard Terry Rozier. Although attempts have been unsuccessful. Signing Isaiah Thomas is supposedly their "plan B" #CelticsDaily

I doubt this is real, they don't have anything meaningful to send back that would actually be in play. They're not giving up an unprotected/minimally protected pick and Ainge probably isn't turning Rozier into air with the Kyrie situation up in the air. If Orlando wanted to talk Jonathan Issac for Rozier and a pick he'd probably listen, but that isn't happening.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: SparzWizard on July 07, 2018, 02:40:17 PM
Jonas Jerebko reportedly plans to sign with Golden State Warriors. - Woj

SMH all these ring-chasers.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: saltlover on July 07, 2018, 02:45:09 PM
Jonas Jerebko reportedly plans to sign with Golden State Warriors. - Woj

SMH all these ring-chasers.

The Jazz released him today after all the money dried up — can’t blame Jonas for looking to get a ring since he was going to play for the minimum no matter where he ended up.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: gpap on July 07, 2018, 02:58:56 PM
Jonas Jerebko reportedly plans to sign with Golden State Warriors. - Woj

SMH all these ring-chasers.

Doesn't matter, he sucked anyway.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: liam on July 07, 2018, 03:41:30 PM
Jonas Jerebko reportedly plans to sign with Golden State Warriors. - Woj

SMH all these ring-chasers.

The Jazz released him today after all the money dried up — can’t blame Jonas for looking to get a ring since he was going to play for the minimum no matter where he ended up.

He's going to be a good fit in small minutes off the bench.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: greece66 on July 09, 2018, 05:40:08 AM
(https://i.gyazo.com/420aa293c919ed5035fca6d29e897614.png)

https://rocketswire.usatoday.com/2018/07/08/houston-rockets-luc-mbah-a-moute-offers-free-agency/
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: greece66 on July 09, 2018, 07:26:25 AM
(https://i.gyazo.com/67abf5c3f5c17ce0cd08196c838a519a.png)

https://twitter.com/KevinOConnorNBA/status/1016146229581864963
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Roy H. on July 09, 2018, 07:37:35 AM
(https://i.gyazo.com/67abf5c3f5c17ce0cd08196c838a519a.png)

https://twitter.com/KevinOConnorNBA/status/1016146229581864963

Houston makes the most sense from a roster standpoint.

My guess is that he joins up with Bron Bron though.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: rondofan1255 on July 11, 2018, 06:31:54 PM
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Oklahoma City looking to get something for Carmelo Anthony and talking to Brooklyn about a deal, with Jeremy Lin potentially going to OKC, per sources. Nets looking to get pick(s). Want to move Lin and would buy out Melo.

https://twitter.com/mitch_lawrence/status/1017135849702658048?s=21
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on July 11, 2018, 06:37:38 PM
Jonas Jerebko reportedly plans to sign with Golden State Warriors. - Woj

SMH all these ring-chasers.

Doesn't matter, he sucked anyway.

he worked hard in bawstin baw. DWI!
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: BringToughnessBack on July 11, 2018, 07:09:39 PM
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Oklahoma City looking to get something for Carmelo Anthony and talking to Brooklyn about a deal, with Jeremy Lin potentially going to OKC, per sources. Nets looking to get pick(s). Want to move Lin and would buy out Melo.

https://twitter.com/mitch_lawrence/status/1017135849702658048?s=21

They need to some good old fashioned tanking now they own picks—-
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: rondofan1255 on July 13, 2018, 03:31:19 AM
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No surprise: several teams have reached out to @dnwaba0, whose qualifying offer was rescinded by Chicago Thursday, making him an unrestricted free agent. Spurs, Lakers among many, per source, with no frontrunner. Bulls still could re-sign him as well.

https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/1017648137207414784
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: safecracker on July 13, 2018, 09:22:45 AM
Jonas Jerebko reportedly plans to sign with Golden State Warriors. - Woj

SMH all these ring-chasers.

The Jazz released him today after all the money dried up — can’t blame Jonas for looking to get a ring since he was going to play for the minimum no matter where he ended up.
Exactly. Limited money, limited minutes wherever you go. Why not go to a great team in California? Enjoy the weather, play with the best, potentially win a ring. Pretty rational decision if you ask me.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: SparzWizard on July 13, 2018, 02:10:55 PM
Rockets strong "front runner" to acquire Carmelo Anthony
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: jpotter33 on July 13, 2018, 03:06:08 PM
https://twitter.com/DWolfsonKSTP/status/1017843451487031299?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1017843451487031299&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2Fnba

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#Twolves All-Star Jimmy Butler has officially turned down the Wolves' 4-year, $110M range extension offer, per owner Glen Taylor. Full interview posting soon, which includes stuff on KAT extension talks, Thibs, filling out the roster, and #LosLynx.

I think this was expected, but given the issues Butler has been vocal about with the team, you have to wonder if Minny tries to move him in case he walks this summer.

I could see both New York and Philly being interested in him.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: rondofan1255 on July 13, 2018, 03:52:57 PM
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Definitely think there's some smoke to Jabari Parker and the Bulls. Apparently he wants to be a Bull, according to sources

https://twitter.com/vgoodwill/status/1017840636400230407
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Birdman on July 13, 2018, 04:41:48 PM
If T-wolves are "smart", i go ahead and trade him..get something or nothing
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: rondofan1255 on July 13, 2018, 06:22:12 PM
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Restricted free agent forward Jabari Parker and the Chicago Bulls are progressing on a deal, league sources tell ESPN. Discussions over a number to topics still ongoing

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1017893081826258944

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Chicago is sitting right at $17.4M in room if Noah Vonleh and David Nwaba are renounced. Cap space can increase to $20.6M if Paul Zipser and Julyan Stone are waived.

https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/1017894685321228288
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Chief Macho on July 13, 2018, 06:34:33 PM
Robin Lopez getting cut? Could be interesting off the bench?
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: SHAQATTACK on July 13, 2018, 06:52:36 PM
https://twitter.com/DWolfsonKSTP/status/1017843451487031299?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1017843451487031299&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2Fnba

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#Twolves All-Star Jimmy Butler has officially turned down the Wolves' 4-year, $110M range extension offer, per owner Glen Taylor. Full interview posting soon, which includes stuff on KAT extension talks, Thibs, filling out the roster, and #LosLynx.

I think this was expected, but given the issues Butler has been vocal about with the team, you have to wonder if Minny tries to move him in case he walks this summer.

I could see both New York and Philly being interested in him.

Wonder if he would want to be on Club LeBron ?
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Roy H. on July 17, 2018, 11:54:15 AM
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Adrian Wojnarowski @wojespn
about 9 minutes ago

Sacramento is finalizing a trade to send forward Garrett Temple to Memphis for Ben McLemore, Deyonta Davis and cash, league sources tell ESPN.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: nickagneta on July 17, 2018, 12:03:22 PM
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Adrian Wojnarowski @wojespn
about 9 minutes ago

Sacramento is finalizing a trade to send forward Garrett Temple to Memphis for Ben McLemore, Deyonta Davis and cash, league sources tell ESPN.
Wow. A former number 7 pick and a first pick in the 2nd round, a guy a lot of CBers were drueling over, get sent in a package for Garrett Temple?!?!?!?!

I guess if you can hit a three you have a lot of value.


Orrrrrrrrrr.....McLemore and Davis really suck.

Probably a bit of both
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: saltlover on July 17, 2018, 12:36:53 PM
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Adrian Wojnarowski @wojespn
about 9 minutes ago

Sacramento is finalizing a trade to send forward Garrett Temple to Memphis for Ben McLemore, Deyonta Davis and cash, league sources tell ESPN.
Wow. A former number 7 pick and a first pick in the 2nd round, a guy a lot of CBers were drueling over, get sent in a package for Garrett Temple?!?!?!?!

I guess if you can hit a three you have a lot of value.


Orrrrrrrrrr.....McLemore and Davis really suck.

Probably a bit of both

Mostly the latter.  I wonder if McClemore even sticks on the Kings roster.  They didn’t give him a qualifying offer last summer (or rescinded it early — don’t remember which).
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: johnnygreen on July 18, 2018, 10:27:55 AM
What is going on with Jabari Bird? He looked really good in summer league for the Celtics. Any chance Danny tries to resign him?
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: saltlover on July 18, 2018, 10:32:17 AM
What is going on with Jabari Bird? He looked really good in summer league for the Celtics. Any chance Danny tries to resign him?

Jabari is a restricted free agent, and the Celtics have given him a qualifying offer, which is another year on a two-way contract.  If he’s given a reasonable offer by another team, the Celtics would likely match, but they’re probably not moving forward with Bird on their own until Smart’s situation is resolved.  The next real time to wonder about Bird is around July 31st when Nader’s contract guarantees.  If Nader is released or traded that day, the Celtics will have a little more wiggle room for both Bird and Smart.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: greece66 on July 18, 2018, 12:41:18 PM
(https://i.gyazo.com/abfbe350f8642c160ad149751dce2589.png)


https://twitter.com/Mitch_Lawrence/status/1019620334721556482
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: DefenseWinsChamps on July 18, 2018, 12:45:50 PM
(https://i.gyazo.com/abfbe350f8642c160ad149751dce2589.png)


https://twitter.com/Mitch_Lawrence/status/1019620334721556482

This would be a steal.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: footey on July 18, 2018, 12:47:18 PM
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Adrian Wojnarowski @wojespn
about 9 minutes ago

Sacramento is finalizing a trade to send forward Garrett Temple to Memphis for Ben McLemore, Deyonta Davis and cash, league sources tell ESPN.

A lot of people upset when we traded rights to Davis draft night. I think we traded down for 2nd rounders. Did that trade produce anyone still on our roster ?
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: saltlover on July 18, 2018, 01:42:09 PM
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Adrian Wojnarowski @wojespn
about 9 minutes ago

Sacramento is finalizing a trade to send forward Garrett Temple to Memphis for Ben McLemore, Deyonta Davis and cash, league sources tell ESPN.

A lot of people upset when we traded rights to Davis draft night. I think we traded down for 2nd rounders. Did that trade produce anyone still on our roster ?

It produced the Clippers protected 1st.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: rondofan1255 on July 18, 2018, 03:34:30 PM
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Forward Nemanja Bjelica and the Kings plan to begin discussing potential deal, league sources tell Yahoo Sports. Bjelica represents a shooter on the wing/frontcourt, and a long-term fit makes sense.

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1019665051207249921
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: fairweatherfan on July 18, 2018, 03:41:19 PM
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Forward Nemanja Bjelica and the Kings plan to begin discussing potential deal, league sources tell Yahoo Sports. Bjelica represents a shooter on the wing/frontcourt, and a long-term fit makes sense.

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1019665051207249921

That is, uh, not Europe. Looks like he just plain ol reneged on the Philly agreement to try and get more $/minutes. Sacramento can probably provide that.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: saltlover on July 18, 2018, 03:54:35 PM
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Forward Nemanja Bjelica and the Kings plan to begin discussing potential deal, league sources tell Yahoo Sports. Bjelica represents a shooter on the wing/frontcourt, and a long-term fit makes sense.

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1019665051207249921

That is, uh, not Europe. Looks like he just plain ol reneged on the Philly agreement to try and get more $/minutes. Sacramento can probably provide that.

LOL.  Seems like Philly might need an actual full-time GM to help wrap up deals they negotiate.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: DefenseWinsChamps on July 18, 2018, 04:06:18 PM
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Forward Nemanja Bjelica and the Kings plan to begin discussing potential deal, league sources tell Yahoo Sports. Bjelica represents a shooter on the wing/frontcourt, and a long-term fit makes sense.

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1019665051207249921

That is, uh, not Europe. Looks like he just plain ol reneged on the Philly agreement to try and get more $/minutes. Sacramento can probably provide that.

LOL.  Seems like Philly might need an actual full-time GM to help wrap up deals they negotiate.

Conspiracy DWC here. If I wanted to get a bit more leverage in a negotiation with the Rockets to take on Anderson, I might leak that I am negotiating a deal with a similar player.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: saltlover on July 18, 2018, 04:09:01 PM
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Forward Nemanja Bjelica and the Kings plan to begin discussing potential deal, league sources tell Yahoo Sports. Bjelica represents a shooter on the wing/frontcourt, and a long-term fit makes sense.

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1019665051207249921

That is, uh, not Europe. Looks like he just plain ol reneged on the Philly agreement to try and get more $/minutes. Sacramento can probably provide that.

LOL.  Seems like Philly might need an actual full-time GM to help wrap up deals they negotiate.

Conspiracy DWC here. If I wanted to get a bit more leverage in a negotiation with the Rockets to take on Anderson, I might leak that I am negotiating a deal with a similar player.

If I wanted to get more leverage on the Rockets, I’d leak that I’m negotiating with Capela, who is supposedly the impetus for why the Rockets are going to dump Anderson in your scenario.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: fairweatherfan on July 18, 2018, 04:11:43 PM
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Forward Nemanja Bjelica and the Kings plan to begin discussing potential deal, league sources tell Yahoo Sports. Bjelica represents a shooter on the wing/frontcourt, and a long-term fit makes sense.

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1019665051207249921

That is, uh, not Europe. Looks like he just plain ol reneged on the Philly agreement to try and get more $/minutes. Sacramento can probably provide that.

LOL.  Seems like Philly might need an actual full-time GM to help wrap up deals they negotiate.

The Process will inevitably evolve past the bourgeois institutions of centralized control; all means of on-court production must be returned to the Processtariat.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: greece66 on July 18, 2018, 04:31:03 PM
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Forward Nemanja Bjelica and the Kings plan to begin discussing potential deal, league sources tell Yahoo Sports. Bjelica represents a shooter on the wing/frontcourt, and a long-term fit makes sense.

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1019665051207249921 (https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1019665051207249921)

That is, uh, not Europe. Looks like he just plain ol reneged on the Philly agreement to try and get more $/minutes. Sacramento can probably provide that.

LOL.  Seems like Philly might need an actual full-time GM to help wrap up deals they negotiate.

The Process will inevitably evolve past the bourgeois institutions of centralized control; all means of on-court production must be returned to the Processtariat.


Idk how credible this is, but it is claimed that Fener and CSKA were not interested.


https://twitter.com/IAmDPick/status/1019671736801996800
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: saltlover on July 18, 2018, 04:57:44 PM
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Forward Nemanja Bjelica and the Kings plan to begin discussing potential deal, league sources tell Yahoo Sports. Bjelica represents a shooter on the wing/frontcourt, and a long-term fit makes sense.

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1019665051207249921 (https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1019665051207249921)

That is, uh, not Europe. Looks like he just plain ol reneged on the Philly agreement to try and get more $/minutes. Sacramento can probably provide that.

LOL.  Seems like Philly might need an actual full-time GM to help wrap up deals they negotiate.

The Process will inevitably evolve past the bourgeois institutions of centralized control; all means of on-court production must be returned to the Processtariat.


Idk how credible this is, but it is claimed that Fener and CSKA were not interested.


https://twitter.com/IAmDPick/status/1019671736801996800

Doesn’t feel too credible to me.  Wouldn’t you think that, if true, he knew this before backing out on Philly?
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: greece66 on July 19, 2018, 12:50:06 AM
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Forward Nemanja Bjelica and the Kings plan to begin discussing potential deal, league sources tell Yahoo Sports. Bjelica represents a shooter on the wing/frontcourt, and a long-term fit makes sense.

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1019665051207249921 (https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1019665051207249921)

That is, uh, not Europe. Looks like he just plain ol reneged on the Philly agreement to try and get more $/minutes. Sacramento can probably provide that.

LOL.  Seems like Philly might need an actual full-time GM to help wrap up deals they negotiate.

The Process will inevitably evolve past the bourgeois institutions of centralized control; all means of on-court production must be returned to the Processtariat.


Idk how credible this is, but it is claimed that Fener and CSKA were not interested.


https://twitter.com/IAmDPick/status/1019671736801996800 (https://twitter.com/IAmDPick/status/1019671736801996800)

Doesn’t feel too credible to me.  Wouldn’t you think that, if true, he knew this before backing out on Philly?


SPot on as usual salty. My own concern is that Euroleague coverage is much poorer than the NBA one. I saw several reports claiming Bjelica was negotiating a return to Fener, and I wouldn't be surpirsed if Obradovic vetoed that on the basis that his roster is already full and balanced.


Still a fiasco for Philly, goes without saying.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Beat LA on July 19, 2018, 01:00:22 AM
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Forward Nemanja Bjelica and the Kings plan to begin discussing potential deal, league sources tell Yahoo Sports. Bjelica represents a shooter on the wing/frontcourt, and a long-term fit makes sense.

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1019665051207249921

That is, uh, not Europe. Looks like he just plain ol reneged on the Philly agreement to try and get more $/minutes. Sacramento can probably provide that.

LOL.  Seems like Philly might need an actual full-time GM to help wrap up deals they negotiate.

The Process will inevitably evolve past the bourgeois institutions of centralized control; all means of on-court production must be returned to the Processtariat.

LOL, TP ;D. It's obvious that Bjelly is going for...Das Kapital ;) ::) ;D *groan*, lol.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Beat LA on July 19, 2018, 01:09:44 AM
(https://i.gyazo.com/abfbe350f8642c160ad149751dce2589.png)


https://twitter.com/Mitch_Lawrence/status/1019620334721556482

This would be a steal.

How would such a move be a steal (for OKC, I'm assuming)? No way Schroder can play with Westbrook, imo, lol ;D.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: greece66 on July 19, 2018, 01:16:34 AM
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Forward Nemanja Bjelica and the Kings plan to begin discussing potential deal, league sources tell Yahoo Sports. Bjelica represents a shooter on the wing/frontcourt, and a long-term fit makes sense.

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1019665051207249921 (https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1019665051207249921)

That is, uh, not Europe. Looks like he just plain ol reneged on the Philly agreement to try and get more $/minutes. Sacramento can probably provide that.

LOL.  Seems like Philly might need an actual full-time GM to help wrap up deals they negotiate.

The Process will inevitably evolve past the bourgeois institutions of centralized control; all means of on-court production must be returned to the Processtariat.

LOL, TP ;D . It's obvious that Bjelly is going for...Das Kapital ;) ::) ;D *groan*, lol.

I enjoyed fairweather's fan comment too, as always. I feel "bourgeois institutions of centralized control" is a bit off though; I'd rather go with something like "bourgeois naked self-interest" if you want to sound Marxian.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: greece66 on July 19, 2018, 01:29:54 AM
(https://i.gyazo.com/da148d5e0b29de65ef500c088d0fd4c3.png)




https://twitter.com/Jonathan_Feigen/status/1019726221825978368
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Roy H. on July 20, 2018, 06:11:58 AM
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Keith Pompey: According to a league source, the #Sixers have had discussions about trading Jerryd Bayless to the #Cleveland #Cavs for Kyle Korver. – via Twitter PompeyOnSixers
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Surferdad on July 20, 2018, 07:03:33 AM
(https://i.gyazo.com/abfbe350f8642c160ad149751dce2589.png)


https://twitter.com/Mitch_Lawrence/status/1019620334721556482

This would be a steal.

How would such a move be a steal (for OKC, I'm assuming)? No way Schroder can play with Westbrook, imo, lol ;D.
Schroder has to accept the backup PG role.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Monkhouse on July 20, 2018, 10:22:07 AM
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TRADE: The Nets are trading Darrell Arthur to Suns for Jared Dudley and 2021 second-round pick.

Arthur will be bought out, reports ESPN.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: saltlover on July 20, 2018, 10:41:03 AM
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TRADE: The Nets are trading Darrell Arthur to Suns for Jared Dudley and 2021 second-round pick.

Arthur will be bought out, reports ESPN.

Interesting.  Gives the Suns about $2 million more in cap space, bringing them to a shade over $3 million.  I wonder what they’re plabning to do with it — they conveniently now have enough to take Yabusele, but I doubt that is their target.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: DefenseWinsChamps on July 20, 2018, 10:47:49 AM
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TRADE: The Nets are trading Darrell Arthur to Suns for Jared Dudley and 2021 second-round pick.

Arthur will be bought out, reports ESPN.

Interesting.  Gives the Suns about $2 million more in cap space, bringing them to a shade over $3 million.  I wonder what they’re plabning to do with it — they conveniently now have enough to take Yabusele, but I doubt that is their target.

Agreed that this is interesting. Unless there was some issue we don't know about, this seems like a precursor move.

Maybe they are targeting a free agent they feel is a better fit than Dudley? Or maybe it is a trade.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: saltlover on July 20, 2018, 11:05:20 AM
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TRADE: The Nets are trading Darrell Arthur to Suns for Jared Dudley and 2021 second-round pick.

Arthur will be bought out, reports ESPN.

Interesting.  Gives the Suns about $2 million more in cap space, bringing them to a shade over $3 million.  I wonder what they’re plabning to do with it — they conveniently now have enough to take Yabusele, but I doubt that is their target.

Agreed that this is interesting. Unless there was some issue we don't know about, this seems like a precursor move.

Maybe they are targeting a free agent they feel is a better fit than Dudley? Or maybe it is a trade.

They still have their room exception of $4.45 million, so a free agency signing doesn’t feel like the right answer given this brings them to $3 million.  Although they could be lining up something else to clear another couple of million.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: greece66 on July 20, 2018, 11:25:20 AM
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1020323091547750400

Woj: Free agent guard Shelvin Mack and the Memphis Grizzlies are progressing in talks on a one-year deal, league sources tell ESPN.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Roy H. on July 20, 2018, 11:34:09 AM
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1020323091547750400

Woj: Free agent guard Shelvin Mack and the Memphis Grizzlies are progressing in talks on a one-year deal, league sources tell ESPN.

I thought Mack would make sense here had we not signed Wanamaker.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: smokeablount on July 20, 2018, 11:40:03 AM
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TRADE: The Nets are trading Darrell Arthur to Suns for Jared Dudley and 2021 second-round pick.

Arthur will be bought out, reports ESPN.

Interesting.  Gives the Suns about $2 million more in cap space, bringing them to a shade over $3 million.  I wonder what they’re plabning to do with it — they conveniently now have enough to take Yabusele, but I doubt that is their target.

Where’s LarBrd33 when you need him (to make a Yabu promotional highlight video and send it to Ryan McDonough) ?
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Roy H. on July 20, 2018, 11:46:06 AM
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TRADE: The Nets are trading Darrell Arthur to Suns for Jared Dudley and 2021 second-round pick.

Arthur will be bought out, reports ESPN.

Interesting.  Gives the Suns about $2 million more in cap space, bringing them to a shade over $3 million.  I wonder what they’re plabning to do with it — they conveniently now have enough to take Yabusele, but I doubt that is their target.

Where’s LarBrd33 when you need him (to make a Yabu promotional highlight video and send it to Ryan McDonough) ?

What about a Yabu promotional video of him eating at McDonalds?
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: mef730 on July 20, 2018, 11:49:57 AM
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TRADE: The Nets are trading Darrell Arthur to Suns for Jared Dudley and 2021 second-round pick.

Arthur will be bought out, reports ESPN.

Interesting.  Gives the Suns about $2 million more in cap space, bringing them to a shade over $3 million.  I wonder what they’re plabning to do with it — they conveniently now have enough to take Yabusele, but I doubt that is their target.

Where’s LarBrd33 when you need him (to make a Yabu promotional highlight video and send it to Ryan McDonough) ?

What about a Yabu promotional video of him eating at McDonalds?

Why would Ryan McDonough want a promo video showing LarBrd33 eating at McDonalds?

Mike
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Roy H. on July 20, 2018, 11:58:47 AM
Quote
TRADE: The Nets are trading Darrell Arthur to Suns for Jared Dudley and 2021 second-round pick.

Arthur will be bought out, reports ESPN.

Interesting.  Gives the Suns about $2 million more in cap space, bringing them to a shade over $3 million.  I wonder what they’re plabning to do with it — they conveniently now have enough to take Yabusele, but I doubt that is their target.

Where’s LarBrd33 when you need him (to make a Yabu promotional highlight video and send it to Ryan McDonough) ?

What about a Yabu promotional video of him eating at McDonalds?

Why would Ryan McDonough want a promo video showing LarBrd33 eating at McDonalds?

Mike

Who wouldn’t want that?

https://vimeo.com/1688319

^ This one’s close.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: greece66 on July 20, 2018, 12:20:51 PM
https://twitter.com/AdamHimmelsbach/status/1020338368079679495

Adam Himmelsbach: Larkin, who sprained his shoulder in Game 4 of the conference semis, was prepared to play through pain in the Finals but was just cleared for full workouts last week. Several European teams have offered, but he's hoping for another good NBA chance



Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: smokeablount on July 20, 2018, 12:23:34 PM
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TRADE: The Nets are trading Darrell Arthur to Suns for Jared Dudley and 2021 second-round pick.

Arthur will be bought out, reports ESPN.

Interesting.  Gives the Suns about $2 million more in cap space, bringing them to a shade over $3 million.  I wonder what they’re plabning to do with it — they conveniently now have enough to take Yabusele, but I doubt that is their target.

Where’s LarBrd33 when you need him (to make a Yabu promotional highlight video and send it to Ryan McDonough) ?

What about a Yabu promotional video of him eating at McDonalds?

No, because that wouldn’t help us trade him.

The only caveat would be if he agreed to void his ~$3m contract if said video secured him a ~$3m endorsement deal with Euro McDonalds to make up for his voided contract. Then I’d feel great- clearly LarBrd33 would birth a true Yabu-McDonalds lovefest, with fiery onscreen passion and emotion rivaled only by Shakespeare’s Romeo & Juliet, The Bridges of Madison County, and Real Housewives: Atlanta.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Monkhouse on July 20, 2018, 12:37:24 PM
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The Sixers have agreed to a trade with the Suns that will send Richaun Holmes to Phoenix, reports Shams Charania of Yahoo Sports (Twitter link). Philadelphia will receive cash considerations in return for Holmes, Charania adds (via Twitter).
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: DefenseWinsChamps on July 20, 2018, 12:41:14 PM
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The Sixers have agreed to a trade with the Suns that will send Richaun Holmes to Phoenix, reports Shams Charania of Yahoo Sports (Twitter link). Philadelphia will receive cash considerations in return for Holmes, Charania adds (via Twitter).

There is the reason the Suns traded Dudley for Arthur.

Not sure why, though. Ayton, Chris, Bender, Chandler, not to mention playing Ariza, Warren, and Jackson at 4 in small-ball lineups.

Also, what in the world, Philly?

Edit: Nevermind. They had to needed to free up a roster spot.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: saltlover on July 20, 2018, 01:15:25 PM
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The Sixers have agreed to a trade with the Suns that will send Richaun Holmes to Phoenix, reports Shams Charania of Yahoo Sports (Twitter link). Philadelphia will receive cash considerations in return for Holmes, Charania adds (via Twitter).

There is the reason the Suns traded Dudley for Arthur.

Not sure why, though. Ayton, Chris, Bender, Chandler, not to mention playing Ariza, Warren, and Jackson at 4 in small-ball lineups.

Also, what in the world, Philly?

Edit: Nevermind. They had to needed to free up a roster spot.

Holmes was making the minimum, so they didn’t need space to absorb him.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Roy H. on July 20, 2018, 01:25:26 PM
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Albert Nahmad: 76ers will trade Richaun Holmes to Suns in exchange for cash to open up a roster spot. They will then use the roster spot to sign 2017 second-rounder Jonah Bolden to a 4-year, $7M deal with cap room. They’ll then exceed the cap to compete the trade for Mike Muscala. – via Twitter AlbertNahmad
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: tazzmaniac on July 21, 2018, 09:03:27 AM
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Albert Nahmad: 76ers will trade Richaun Holmes to Suns in exchange for cash to open up a roster spot. They will then use the roster spot to sign 2017 second-rounder Jonah Bolden to a 4-year, $7M deal with cap room. They’ll then exceed the cap to compete the trade for Mike Muscala. – via Twitter AlbertNahmad
I wanted us to draft Holmes and I still like him.  He makes highlight reel plays but he just hasn't improved his defensive fundamentals much in his 3 NBA seasons.  He might do better on the Suns where defense is optional. 
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Birdman on July 21, 2018, 06:26:38 PM
Alex Len finalizing deal with Atlanta..he was one of mine "hopeful signing"..oh well
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: bogg on July 21, 2018, 07:55:12 PM
Alex Len finalizing deal with Atlanta..he was one of mine "hopeful signing"..oh well

I don't see any way Boston was going to fill their last roster spot with a fifth center (sixth if you count Yabu).
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: rondofan1255 on July 23, 2018, 12:27:48 AM
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Clippers forward @tobias31 turns down $80 million extension offer from team, per sources. Amicable discussions. But he’ll play out final year of his current deal and be UFA next summer, when he’d be eligible for 5 yrs/$188M max from Clips or 4/$145.5 elsewhere.

https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/1021183060514131969?s=21
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: saltlover on July 23, 2018, 12:29:36 AM
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Clippers forward @tobias31 turns down $80 million extension offer from team, per sources. Amicable discussions. But he’ll play out final year of his current deal and be UFA next summer, when he’d be eligible for 5 yrs/$188M max from Clips or 4/$145.5 elsewhere.

https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/1021183060514131969?s=21

He’s not getting the max, but I can see why he’s want to play free agency.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: tazzmaniac on July 23, 2018, 12:36:49 AM
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Clippers forward @tobias31 turns down $80 million extension offer from team, per sources. Amicable discussions. But he’ll play out final year of his current deal and be UFA next summer, when he’d be eligible for 5 yrs/$188M max from Clips or 4/$145.5 elsewhere.

https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/1021183060514131969?s=21

He’s not getting the max, but I can see why he’s want to play free agency.
He should have taken the extension.  I doubt he'll get much more than that next offseason and there's always the risk of injury. 
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: gouki88 on July 23, 2018, 01:02:23 AM
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Clippers forward @tobias31 turns down $80 million extension offer from team, per sources. Amicable discussions. But he’ll play out final year of his current deal and be UFA next summer, when he’d be eligible for 5 yrs/$188M max from Clips or 4/$145.5 elsewhere.

https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/1021183060514131969?s=21

He’s not getting the max, but I can see why he’s want to play free agency.
He should have taken the extension.  I doubt he'll get much more than that next offseason and there's always the risk of injury.
Yeah, really puzzling move. Guy gets his first shot at continuity on a team, but decides to risk it. He's definitely an efficient and prolific scorer, but he is little else
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: greece66 on July 24, 2018, 12:23:04 PM
(https://i.gyazo.com/e5eeddc872bc69cbee87f098ce53a081.png)

https://twitter.com/Sportando/status/1021729883913895936
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: saltlover on July 24, 2018, 12:37:15 PM
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Clippers forward @tobias31 turns down $80 million extension offer from team, per sources. Amicable discussions. But he’ll play out final year of his current deal and be UFA next summer, when he’d be eligible for 5 yrs/$188M max from Clips or 4/$145.5 elsewhere.

https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/1021183060514131969?s=21

He’s not getting the max, but I can see why he’s want to play free agency.
He should have taken the extension.  I doubt he'll get much more than that next offseason and there's always the risk of injury.
Yeah, really puzzling move. Guy gets his first shot at continuity on a team, but decides to risk it. He's definitely an efficient and prolific scorer, but he is little else

The Clippers traded Griffin six months after extending him. Harris signing an extension is no guarantee of team continuity.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: DefenseWinsChamps on July 24, 2018, 12:51:54 PM
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Clippers forward @tobias31 turns down $80 million extension offer from team, per sources. Amicable discussions. But he’ll play out final year of his current deal and be UFA next summer, when he’d be eligible for 5 yrs/$188M max from Clips or 4/$145.5 elsewhere.

https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/1021183060514131969?s=21

He’s not getting the max, but I can see why he’s want to play free agency.
He should have taken the extension.  I doubt he'll get much more than that next offseason and there's always the risk of injury.
Yeah, really puzzling move. Guy gets his first shot at continuity on a team, but decides to risk it. He's definitely an efficient and prolific scorer, but he is little else

The Clippers traded Griffin six months after extending him. Harris signing an extension is no guarantee of team continuity.

I was playing with the Hawks roster on shamsports and ended up signing Harris to a max in the summer of 2019. The Hawks have young guys at guard/creator (Young), wing (Prince), and big (Collins), but they don't have a reliable scoring combo forward.

They have a ton of cap space next summer and no real need to use it until Collins/Prince/Young get off their rookie contracts. They have room to resign Dorsey and/or Anderson to small contracts, resign Dedmon to a similar contract he has right now (although he might want to move to a contender), and still offer Harris the max. Then, assuming they renounce Plumlee and Bazemore the following year, they could have near-max space again in 2020. If they strike out in 2020, they could just resign Prince.

Besides, they aren't going to convince the elite guys to join their team. Harris is the perfect second tier fringe all-star compliment to their young core. It's definitely an overpay in a vacuum, but they will need to overpay to get someone to come anyway and it's a position of need. Harris stretches the floor for Young/Collins pick-and-roll, which would seriously help their development.

If Young turns into a Lillard-lite and Collins develops a repore in the pick-and-roll with him, that team could be a really interesting versatile team -- not a contender, but success comes in gradations. If they could generate excitement from their fanbase with some high flying/high scoring games, it could put Atlanta back on the map.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Timdawgg on July 24, 2018, 01:57:14 PM
I had to share these...Someone ran Kawhi's facial expression with Microsoft's Emotion API in Toronto...& GM's were 100% happiness... lol

(https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0?ui=2&ik=b2af61ff05&attid=0.1&permmsgid=msg-f:1606894078313557623&th=164cd5a6898eee77&view=fimg&sz=w1600-h1000&attbid=ANGjdJ-1ROOXb3nrGuisbcHqfY0275wVCr0RtyOo_kS3DXajQbPqT0GvCRq1NayPfhgNSwJxcakgEpps2_ZitsjbJ55JYdfwBQOl15xQbisSly4vkXdGJaCB6PoWfxk&disp=emb&realattid=ii_jjzza3px0)

Then someone did it with Lebron after J.R. game 1 incident...

(https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0?ui=2&ik=b2af61ff05&attid=0.3&permmsgid=msg-f:1606894882978325919&th=164cd661e350e59f&view=fimg&sz=w1600-h1000&attbid=ANGjdJ_TSIwT_cir_WQ-E3nioCEMGbP_lfEQdQiHu8IdWa-7FGaJPbEQKp5Um2Ar6X4yc9u2Wiuohyetej1Z-iPGAPxMMB3Z34omE12HRY7kq7QdTkf5h1yIDt9OAlQ&disp=emb&realattid=ii_jjzzr9bh0)
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: greece66 on July 24, 2018, 02:30:08 PM
(https://i.gyazo.com/5da139dcac7b252e813873ae1a3b95dd.png)

https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/1021784940008984577
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: smokeablount on July 24, 2018, 02:38:11 PM
(https://i.gyazo.com/e5eeddc872bc69cbee87f098ce53a081.png)

https://twitter.com/Sportando/status/1021729883913895936

Who wants to be the next Starbury??
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: saltlover on July 24, 2018, 04:31:13 PM
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Ian Begley
@IanBegley
The Knicks have reached an agreement with free agent big man Noah Vonleh, per ESPN sources.
3:49 PM · Jul 24, 2018

https://mobile.twitter.com/ianbegley/status/1021844765371981826 (https://mobile.twitter.com/ianbegley/status/1021844765371981826)
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: celticsclay on July 24, 2018, 04:58:18 PM
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Ian Begley
@IanBegley
The Knicks have reached an agreement with free agent big man Noah Vonleh, per ESPN sources.
3:49 PM · Jul 24, 2018

https://mobile.twitter.com/ianbegley/status/1021844765371981826 (https://mobile.twitter.com/ianbegley/status/1021844765371981826)

I still think Vonleh could have some upside. He averaged 7 pts and 7 rebounds in 19 minutes for the bulls last year and believe it or not is only about to turn 23.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: saltlover on July 24, 2018, 05:01:44 PM
Quote
Ian Begley
@IanBegley
The Knicks have reached an agreement with free agent big man Noah Vonleh, per ESPN sources.
3:49 PM · Jul 24, 2018

https://mobile.twitter.com/ianbegley/status/1021844765371981826 (https://mobile.twitter.com/ianbegley/status/1021844765371981826)

I still think Vonleh could have some upside. He averaged 7 pts and 7 rebounds in 19 minutes for the bulls last year and believe it or not is only about to turn 23.

He could, but his work ethic has been questioned all the way back to the pre-draft process, and does not seemed to have improved much.  The Bulls gave him a chance with more minutes but decided to move on.

Low-risk signing on a talented player, however.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Birdman on July 29, 2018, 12:40:58 PM
Toronto interested in Greg Monroe
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: bogg on July 31, 2018, 10:29:52 AM
Toronto interested in Greg Monroe

I mean, at this point in the summer Monroe at the minimum to eat up some regular season minutes and second-unit possessions is fine.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: greece66 on August 27, 2018, 02:51:57 PM
>Sixers looking at new GM targets, but may keep interim structure> by Wojnarowski

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/24492287/philadelphia-76ers-expanding-gm-search-not-hire-one
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: celticsclay on August 27, 2018, 03:50:53 PM
>Sixers looking at new GM targets, but may keep interim structure> by Wojnarowski

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/24492287/philadelphia-76ers-expanding-gm-search-not-hire-one

hmm that doesn't seem wise to me. They didn't get close with Lebron, Leonard or George and had their biggest free agent signing (Bejlica) renege on his deal. I wonder if they would have had a better summer with a top flight gm.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: hpantazo on August 27, 2018, 03:52:47 PM
>Sixers looking at new GM targets, but may keep interim structure> by Wojnarowski

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/24492287/philadelphia-76ers-expanding-gm-search-not-hire-one

hmm that doesn't seem wise to me. They didn't get close with Lebron, Leonard or George and had their biggest free agent signing (Bejlica) renege on his deal. I wonder if they would have had a better summer with a top flight gm.


Yeah, they totally wiffed this summer , a legit GM would have certainly helped. Maybe they are buying into all the hype about their team for this season and think they can save money by holding off on hiring a new GM for a while.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: green_bballers13 on August 27, 2018, 05:24:51 PM
>Sixers looking at new GM targets, but may keep interim structure> by Wojnarowski

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/24492287/philadelphia-76ers-expanding-gm-search-not-hire-one

hmm that doesn't seem wise to me. They didn't get close with Lebron, Leonard or George and had their biggest free agent signing (Bejlica) renege on his deal. I wonder if they would have had a better summer with a top flight gm.


Yeah, they totally wiffed this summer , a legit GM would have certainly helped. Maybe they are buying into all the hype about their team for this season and think they can save money by holding off on hiring a new GM for a while.

I wouldn't wait too long. The Sixers are in really good shape, but they still have a ton of question marks. 

1) Can Embiid play 70+ games a year?
2) Can Simmons shoot?
3) Can Fultz shoot?
4) Is Saric a starter? We've seen a ton of flash, but is he consistent?

I wouldn't let this volatile team go unmanaged for too long. I think that Brett Brown has a lot of say at this point. I'm not sure about his GM capabilities.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: hpantazo on August 27, 2018, 05:59:50 PM
>Sixers looking at new GM targets, but may keep interim structure> by Wojnarowski

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/24492287/philadelphia-76ers-expanding-gm-search-not-hire-one

hmm that doesn't seem wise to me. They didn't get close with Lebron, Leonard or George and had their biggest free agent signing (Bejlica) renege on his deal. I wonder if they would have had a better summer with a top flight gm.


Yeah, they totally wiffed this summer , a legit GM would have certainly helped. Maybe they are buying into all the hype about their team for this season and think they can save money by holding off on hiring a new GM for a while.

I wouldn't wait too long. The Sixers are in really good shape, but they still have a ton of question marks. 

1) Can Embiid play 70+ games a year?
2) Can Simmons shoot?
3) Can Fultz shoot?
4) Is Saric a starter? We've seen a ton of flash, but is he consistent?

I wouldn't let this volatile team go unmanaged for too long. I think that Brett Brown has a lot of say at this point. I'm not sure about his GM capabilities.

I agree. If they had a very good GM he would already be planning on cashing in some of those prospects he deems limited for all-star caliber vet help before the rest of the league sours on some of those prospects like what happened with Okafor and Noel.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: tazzmaniac on August 27, 2018, 06:22:21 PM
>Sixers looking at new GM targets, but may keep interim structure> by Wojnarowski

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/24492287/philadelphia-76ers-expanding-gm-search-not-hire-one

hmm that doesn't seem wise to me. They didn't get close with Lebron, Leonard or George and had their biggest free agent signing (Bejlica) renege on his deal. I wonder if they would have had a better summer with a top flight gm.
I doubt it.  George decided to re-sign with OKC before free agency started.  He didn't even give the Lakers a chance and they were the team George was supposed destined for.  The Spurs traded Leonard for an established all-start.  They didn't young talent/picks whether it was from the Sixers or the Lakers.  There was no decision for Lebron this time.  He clearly was going to the Lakers unless they screwed the pooch.  As for Bjelica, he reneged on a 1 year/4.5M contract for a 3 year/20.5M contract (2 years guaranteed). 

Tell me how a top flight GM, even Danny, could have or should have done anything different in any of those situations.  What the Sixers did do when they couldn't get any of their top targets was only sign 1 year contracts and make trades that allowed them to maintain their cap space for 2019. 

There's no reason for the Sixers to rush their GM search.  It is much more important to find the right person who will fit into their approach and be able to work well with the people they have in place including coach Brown. 
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: tazzmaniac on August 27, 2018, 06:28:19 PM
>Sixers looking at new GM targets, but may keep interim structure> by Wojnarowski

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/24492287/philadelphia-76ers-expanding-gm-search-not-hire-one

hmm that doesn't seem wise to me. They didn't get close with Lebron, Leonard or George and had their biggest free agent signing (Bejlica) renege on his deal. I wonder if they would have had a better summer with a top flight gm.


Yeah, they totally wiffed this summer , a legit GM would have certainly helped. Maybe they are buying into all the hype about their team for this season and think they can save money by holding off on hiring a new GM for a while.

I wouldn't wait too long. The Sixers are in really good shape, but they still have a ton of question marks. 

1) Can Embiid play 70+ games a year?
2) Can Simmons shoot?
3) Can Fultz shoot?
4) Is Saric a starter? We've seen a ton of flash, but is he consistent?

I wouldn't let this volatile team go unmanaged for too long. I think that Brett Brown has a lot of say at this point. I'm not sure about his GM capabilities.

I agree. If they had a very good GM he would already be planning on cashing in some of those prospects he deems limited for all-star caliber vet help before the rest of the league sours on some of those prospects like what happened with Okafor and Noel.
You do realize the souring on Okafor and Noel occurred on Colangelo's (a supposedly good GM) watch.  Who are these prospects that they should be cashing in on?  Who are these all-star caliber vets that are available for them to get? 
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: hpantazo on August 27, 2018, 06:56:47 PM
>Sixers looking at new GM targets, but may keep interim structure> by Wojnarowski

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/24492287/philadelphia-76ers-expanding-gm-search-not-hire-one

hmm that doesn't seem wise to me. They didn't get close with Lebron, Leonard or George and had their biggest free agent signing (Bejlica) renege on his deal. I wonder if they would have had a better summer with a top flight gm.


Yeah, they totally wiffed this summer , a legit GM would have certainly helped. Maybe they are buying into all the hype about their team for this season and think they can save money by holding off on hiring a new GM for a while.

I wouldn't wait too long. The Sixers are in really good shape, but they still have a ton of question marks. 

1) Can Embiid play 70+ games a year?
2) Can Simmons shoot?
3) Can Fultz shoot?
4) Is Saric a starter? We've seen a ton of flash, but is he consistent?

I wouldn't let this volatile team go unmanaged for too long. I think that Brett Brown has a lot of say at this point. I'm not sure about his GM capabilities.

I agree. If they had a very good GM he would already be planning on cashing in some of those prospects he deems limited for all-star caliber vet help before the rest of the league sours on some of those prospects like what happened with Okafor and Noel.
You do realize the souring on Okafor and Noel occurred on Colangelo's (a supposedly good GM) watch.  Who are these prospects that they should be cashing in on?  Who are these all-star caliber vets that are available for them to get?

I never called Colangelo a good GM. They missed their chances to sell high on both of those guys imo. Even a large percentage of the people on here were clamoring for the Celtics to trade legit assets for one of those guys not too long ago.

If they were more aggressive in moving some of their prospects they could have had Kawhi. They still could have Butler. Those are just two examples. They also should have signed IT.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: green_bballers13 on August 27, 2018, 07:46:47 PM
>Sixers looking at new GM targets, but may keep interim structure> by Wojnarowski

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/24492287/philadelphia-76ers-expanding-gm-search-not-hire-one

hmm that doesn't seem wise to me. They didn't get close with Lebron, Leonard or George and had their biggest free agent signing (Bejlica) renege on his deal. I wonder if they would have had a better summer with a top flight gm.


Yeah, they totally wiffed this summer , a legit GM would have certainly helped. Maybe they are buying into all the hype about their team for this season and think they can save money by holding off on hiring a new GM for a while.

I wouldn't wait too long. The Sixers are in really good shape, but they still have a ton of question marks. 

1) Can Embiid play 70+ games a year?
2) Can Simmons shoot?
3) Can Fultz shoot?
4) Is Saric a starter? We've seen a ton of flash, but is he consistent?

I wouldn't let this volatile team go unmanaged for too long. I think that Brett Brown has a lot of say at this point. I'm not sure about his GM capabilities.

I agree. If they had a very good GM he would already be planning on cashing in some of those prospects he deems limited for all-star caliber vet help before the rest of the league sours on some of those prospects like what happened with Okafor and Noel.
You do realize the souring on Okafor and Noel occurred on Colangelo's (a supposedly good GM) watch.  Who are these prospects that they should be cashing in on?  Who are these all-star caliber vets that are available for them to get?

I never called Colangelo a good GM. They missed their chances to sell high on both of those guys imo. Even a large percentage of the people on here were clamoring for the Celtics to trade legit assets for one of those guys not too long ago.

If they were more aggressive in moving some of their prospects they could have had Kawhi. They still could have Butler. Those are just two examples. They also should have signed IT.

I am excited to be pulling for IT again. I wish him well in his new role with DEN, and hope he has the opportunity score 20ppg again. If he does, another team will end paying him.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: tazzmaniac on August 27, 2018, 10:07:45 PM
>Sixers looking at new GM targets, but may keep interim structure> by Wojnarowski

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/24492287/philadelphia-76ers-expanding-gm-search-not-hire-one

hmm that doesn't seem wise to me. They didn't get close with Lebron, Leonard or George and had their biggest free agent signing (Bejlica) renege on his deal. I wonder if they would have had a better summer with a top flight gm.


Yeah, they totally wiffed this summer , a legit GM would have certainly helped. Maybe they are buying into all the hype about their team for this season and think they can save money by holding off on hiring a new GM for a while.

I wouldn't wait too long. The Sixers are in really good shape, but they still have a ton of question marks. 

1) Can Embiid play 70+ games a year?
2) Can Simmons shoot?
3) Can Fultz shoot?
4) Is Saric a starter? We've seen a ton of flash, but is he consistent?

I wouldn't let this volatile team go unmanaged for too long. I think that Brett Brown has a lot of say at this point. I'm not sure about his GM capabilities.

I agree. If they had a very good GM he would already be planning on cashing in some of those prospects he deems limited for all-star caliber vet help before the rest of the league sours on some of those prospects like what happened with Okafor and Noel.
You do realize the souring on Okafor and Noel occurred on Colangelo's (a supposedly good GM) watch.  Who are these prospects that they should be cashing in on?  Who are these all-star caliber vets that are available for them to get?

I never called Colangelo a good GM. They missed their chances to sell high on both of those guys imo. Even a large percentage of the people on here were clamoring for the Celtics to trade legit assets for one of those guys not too long ago.

If they were more aggressive in moving some of their prospects they could have had Kawhi. They still could have Butler. Those are just two examples. They also should have signed IT.
The Spurs traded Kawhi for Derozan, an established star.  The only way the Sixers could have gotten Kawhi was to offer Embiid or Simmons which would have been grade A stupid.  The Sixers never had Butler.  He played for the Bulls.  I thought about them going after IT but I don't think it would have been a good fit.  They want Simmons and hopefully Fultz running their offense.  Also IT is going to be focused getting a Brinks wagon since no team is going to give him a Brinks truck.   
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: hpantazo on August 27, 2018, 10:57:08 PM
>Sixers looking at new GM targets, but may keep interim structure> by Wojnarowski

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/24492287/philadelphia-76ers-expanding-gm-search-not-hire-one

hmm that doesn't seem wise to me. They didn't get close with Lebron, Leonard or George and had their biggest free agent signing (Bejlica) renege on his deal. I wonder if they would have had a better summer with a top flight gm.


Yeah, they totally wiffed this summer , a legit GM would have certainly helped. Maybe they are buying into all the hype about their team for this season and think they can save money by holding off on hiring a new GM for a while.

I wouldn't wait too long. The Sixers are in really good shape, but they still have a ton of question marks. 

1) Can Embiid play 70+ games a year?
2) Can Simmons shoot?
3) Can Fultz shoot?
4) Is Saric a starter? We've seen a ton of flash, but is he consistent?

I wouldn't let this volatile team go unmanaged for too long. I think that Brett Brown has a lot of say at this point. I'm not sure about his GM capabilities.

I agree. If they had a very good GM he would already be planning on cashing in some of those prospects he deems limited for all-star caliber vet help before the rest of the league sours on some of those prospects like what happened with Okafor and Noel.
You do realize the souring on Okafor and Noel occurred on Colangelo's (a supposedly good GM) watch.  Who are these prospects that they should be cashing in on?  Who are these all-star caliber vets that are available for them to get?

I never called Colangelo a good GM. They missed their chances to sell high on both of those guys imo. Even a large percentage of the people on here were clamoring for the Celtics to trade legit assets for one of those guys not too long ago.

If they were more aggressive in moving some of their prospects they could have had Kawhi. They still could have Butler. Those are just two examples. They also should have signed IT.
The Spurs traded Kawhi for Derozan, an established star.  The only way the Sixers could have gotten Kawhi was to offer Embiid or Simmons which would have been grade A stupid.  The Sixers never had Butler.  He played for the Bulls.  I thought about them going after IT but I don't think it would have been a good fit.  They want Simmons and hopefully Fultz running their offense.  Also IT is going to be focused getting a Brinks wagon since no team is going to give him a Brinks truck.

If they were willing to give up both Saric and Fultz they could have very likely had Kawhi.

Bulter wants out of Minny, the Sixers have the pieces to trade for him if they want to.

They need a vet point guard who can score to compliment Simmons. IT would have been a great fit.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Surferdad on August 28, 2018, 07:20:35 AM
>Sixers looking at new GM targets, but may keep interim structure> by Wojnarowski

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/24492287/philadelphia-76ers-expanding-gm-search-not-hire-one

hmm that doesn't seem wise to me. They didn't get close with Lebron, Leonard or George and had their biggest free agent signing (Bejlica) renege on his deal. I wonder if they would have had a better summer with a top flight gm.


Yeah, they totally wiffed this summer , a legit GM would have certainly helped. Maybe they are buying into all the hype about their team for this season and think they can save money by holding off on hiring a new GM for a while.

I wouldn't wait too long. The Sixers are in really good shape, but they still have a ton of question marks. 

1) Can Embiid play 70+ games a year?
2) Can Simmons shoot?
3) Can Fultz shoot?
4) Is Saric a starter? We've seen a ton of flash, but is he consistent?

I wouldn't let this volatile team go unmanaged for too long. I think that Brett Brown has a lot of say at this point. I'm not sure about his GM capabilities.

I agree. If they had a very good GM he would already be planning on cashing in some of those prospects he deems limited for all-star caliber vet help before the rest of the league sours on some of those prospects like what happened with Okafor and Noel.
You do realize the souring on Okafor and Noel occurred on Colangelo's (a supposedly good GM) watch.  Who are these prospects that they should be cashing in on?  Who are these all-star caliber vets that are available for them to get?

I never called Colangelo a good GM. They missed their chances to sell high on both of those guys imo. Even a large percentage of the people on here were clamoring for the Celtics to trade legit assets for one of those guys not too long ago.

If they were more aggressive in moving some of their prospects they could have had Kawhi. They still could have Butler. Those are just two examples. They also should have signed IT.
The Spurs traded Kawhi for Derozan, an established star.  The only way the Sixers could have gotten Kawhi was to offer Embiid or Simmons which would have been grade A stupid.  The Sixers never had Butler.  He played for the Bulls.  I thought about them going after IT but I don't think it would have been a good fit.  They want Simmons and hopefully Fultz running their offense.  Also IT is going to be focused getting a Brinks wagon since no team is going to give him a Brinks truck.

If they were willing to give up both Saric and Fultz they could have very likely had Kawhi.

Bulter wants out of Minny, the Sixers have the pieces to trade for him if they want to.

They need a vet point guard who can score to compliment Simmons. IT would have been a great fit.
Um...IMO, no, and no on those 2 points.

Fultz is probably a better prospect than Poeltl, but Saric isn't close to Derozan.  SA would have turned that down.

The last thing the sixers need is to take the ball out of Simmons' hands.  The better approach is for Simmons to develop a decent jumpshot.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: tazzmaniac on August 28, 2018, 07:54:19 AM
>Sixers looking at new GM targets, but may keep interim structure> by Wojnarowski

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/24492287/philadelphia-76ers-expanding-gm-search-not-hire-one

hmm that doesn't seem wise to me. They didn't get close with Lebron, Leonard or George and had their biggest free agent signing (Bejlica) renege on his deal. I wonder if they would have had a better summer with a top flight gm.


Yeah, they totally wiffed this summer , a legit GM would have certainly helped. Maybe they are buying into all the hype about their team for this season and think they can save money by holding off on hiring a new GM for a while.

I wouldn't wait too long. The Sixers are in really good shape, but they still have a ton of question marks. 

1) Can Embiid play 70+ games a year?
2) Can Simmons shoot?
3) Can Fultz shoot?
4) Is Saric a starter? We've seen a ton of flash, but is he consistent?

I wouldn't let this volatile team go unmanaged for too long. I think that Brett Brown has a lot of say at this point. I'm not sure about his GM capabilities.

I agree. If they had a very good GM he would already be planning on cashing in some of those prospects he deems limited for all-star caliber vet help before the rest of the league sours on some of those prospects like what happened with Okafor and Noel.
You do realize the souring on Okafor and Noel occurred on Colangelo's (a supposedly good GM) watch.  Who are these prospects that they should be cashing in on?  Who are these all-star caliber vets that are available for them to get?

I never called Colangelo a good GM. They missed their chances to sell high on both of those guys imo. Even a large percentage of the people on here were clamoring for the Celtics to trade legit assets for one of those guys not too long ago.

If they were more aggressive in moving some of their prospects they could have had Kawhi. They still could have Butler. Those are just two examples. They also should have signed IT.
The Spurs traded Kawhi for Derozan, an established star.  The only way the Sixers could have gotten Kawhi was to offer Embiid or Simmons which would have been grade A stupid.  The Sixers never had Butler.  He played for the Bulls.  I thought about them going after IT but I don't think it would have been a good fit.  They want Simmons and hopefully Fultz running their offense.  Also IT is going to be focused getting a Brinks wagon since no team is going to give him a Brinks truck.

If they were willing to give up both Saric and Fultz they could have very likely had Kawhi.

Bulter wants out of Minny, the Sixers have the pieces to trade for him if they want to.

They need a vet point guard who can score to compliment Simmons. IT would have been a great fit.
Dario and Fultz clearly was definitely not getting Kawhi.  Also, Kawhi only has 1 year on his contract so the Sixers may have a shot to get him next offseason without giving up anything. 

Butler wanting out of Minny is just a rumor.  Minny hasn't put him on the trade block and I doubt they will.  Also, Butler only has 1 year on his contract so the Sixers may have a shot to get him next offseason without giving up anything.

The more I think about it Simmons and IT is just a lousy fit.  IT has to have the ball in his hands or his defensive liability keeps him off the court. 
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Surferdad on August 28, 2018, 10:23:03 AM
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The more I think about it Simmons and IT is just a lousy fit.  IT has to have the ball in his hands or his defensive liability keeps him off the court.
Were you really thinking about it, or did you read my post just above yours?   ;D    ;D   ;D
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: celticsclay on August 28, 2018, 12:37:42 PM
>Sixers looking at new GM targets, but may keep interim structure> by Wojnarowski

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/24492287/philadelphia-76ers-expanding-gm-search-not-hire-one

hmm that doesn't seem wise to me. They didn't get close with Lebron, Leonard or George and had their biggest free agent signing (Bejlica) renege on his deal. I wonder if they would have had a better summer with a top flight gm.
I doubt it.  George decided to re-sign with OKC before free agency started.  He didn't even give the Lakers a chance and they were the team George was supposed destined for.  The Spurs traded Leonard for an established all-start.  They didn't young talent/picks whether it was from the Sixers or the Lakers.  There was no decision for Lebron this time.  He clearly was going to the Lakers unless they screwed the pooch.  As for Bjelica, he reneged on a 1 year/4.5M contract for a 3 year/20.5M contract (2 years guaranteed). 

Tell me how a top flight GM, even Danny, could have or should have done anything different in any of those situations.  What the Sixers did do when they couldn't get any of their top targets was only sign 1 year contracts and make trades that allowed them to maintain their cap space for 2019. 

There's no reason for the Sixers to rush their GM search.  It is much more important to find the right person who will fit into their approach and be able to work well with the people they have in place including coach Brown.

I would have bet a 1000 dollars there would be a post from you within 24 hours explaining why everything was fine with the 76ers. Its pretty comedic at this point.
In my opinion, a realistic take on 76ers

Positives of summer: Embiid, Simmons healthy
Fultz back to playing basketball
Landed future first round pick on draft day
Resigned Reddick
Acquired Wilson chandler who gives them some wing versatility

Negatives
Struck out on their star hunting despite having second best odds to get George, Lebron entering the summer
Lost bench depth in Illy and Bellinelli that they know fit in their system and liked playing there
First round pick injured and may miss large part of season, developmental time
Could have used more shooting (Bjelica would have helped, Chandler pretty average shooter)

I will also add that it is really moving the goalposts to act like there were not tons of people thought the 76ers had a great chance of getting Lebron and others entering the offseason

https://www.libertyballers.com/2018/6/4/17427100/how-likely-are-the-sixers-to-sign-lebron-james
https://www.libertyballers.com/2018/5/10/17341480/sixers-with-3rd-highest-odds-as-destination-for-paul-george
https://www.libertyballers.com/2018/7/9/17548650/kawhi-only-wants-to-play-for-one-easten-conference-team

As a Celtics fan, you should be happy they didn't get this guys. It is a great relief for them staying a tier below us. Why is it so difficult for you to be happy about it and admit it was bad for them?
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: celticsclay on August 28, 2018, 12:57:01 PM
>Sixers looking at new GM targets, but may keep interim structure> by Wojnarowski

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/24492287/philadelphia-76ers-expanding-gm-search-not-hire-one

hmm that doesn't seem wise to me. They didn't get close with Lebron, Leonard or George and had their biggest free agent signing (Bejlica) renege on his deal. I wonder if they would have had a better summer with a top flight gm.


Yeah, they totally wiffed this summer , a legit GM would have certainly helped. Maybe they are buying into all the hype about their team for this season and think they can save money by holding off on hiring a new GM for a while.

I wouldn't wait too long. The Sixers are in really good shape, but they still have a ton of question marks. 

1) Can Embiid play 70+ games a year?
2) Can Simmons shoot?
3) Can Fultz shoot?
4) Is Saric a starter? We've seen a ton of flash, but is he consistent?

I wouldn't let this volatile team go unmanaged for too long. I think that Brett Brown has a lot of say at this point. I'm not sure about his GM capabilities.

I agree. If they had a very good GM he would already be planning on cashing in some of those prospects he deems limited for all-star caliber vet help before the rest of the league sours on some of those prospects like what happened with Okafor and Noel.
You do realize the souring on Okafor and Noel occurred on Colangelo's (a supposedly good GM) watch.  Who are these prospects that they should be cashing in on?  Who are these all-star caliber vets that are available for them to get?

I never called Colangelo a good GM. They missed their chances to sell high on both of those guys imo. Even a large percentage of the people on here were clamoring for the Celtics to trade legit assets for one of those guys not too long ago.

If they were more aggressive in moving some of their prospects they could have had Kawhi. They still could have Butler. Those are just two examples. They also should have signed IT.
The Spurs traded Kawhi for Derozan, an established star.  The only way the Sixers could have gotten Kawhi was to offer Embiid or Simmons which would have been grade A stupid.  The Sixers never had Butler.  He played for the Bulls.  I thought about them going after IT but I don't think it would have been a good fit.  They want Simmons and hopefully Fultz running their offense.  Also IT is going to be focused getting a Brinks wagon since no team is going to give him a Brinks truck.

If they were willing to give up both Saric and Fultz they could have very likely had Kawhi.

Bulter wants out of Minny, the Sixers have the pieces to trade for him if they want to.

They need a vet point guard who can score to compliment Simmons. IT would have been a great fit.

I think this is pretty fair speculation. Everything I read indicated they refused to trade Fultz. I think if they included him they could have gotten it done.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Moranis on August 28, 2018, 01:17:16 PM
>Sixers looking at new GM targets, but may keep interim structure> by Wojnarowski

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/24492287/philadelphia-76ers-expanding-gm-search-not-hire-one

hmm that doesn't seem wise to me. They didn't get close with Lebron, Leonard or George and had their biggest free agent signing (Bejlica) renege on his deal. I wonder if they would have had a better summer with a top flight gm.


Yeah, they totally wiffed this summer , a legit GM would have certainly helped. Maybe they are buying into all the hype about their team for this season and think they can save money by holding off on hiring a new GM for a while.

I wouldn't wait too long. The Sixers are in really good shape, but they still have a ton of question marks. 

1) Can Embiid play 70+ games a year?
2) Can Simmons shoot?
3) Can Fultz shoot?
4) Is Saric a starter? We've seen a ton of flash, but is he consistent?

I wouldn't let this volatile team go unmanaged for too long. I think that Brett Brown has a lot of say at this point. I'm not sure about his GM capabilities.

I agree. If they had a very good GM he would already be planning on cashing in some of those prospects he deems limited for all-star caliber vet help before the rest of the league sours on some of those prospects like what happened with Okafor and Noel.
You do realize the souring on Okafor and Noel occurred on Colangelo's (a supposedly good GM) watch.  Who are these prospects that they should be cashing in on?  Who are these all-star caliber vets that are available for them to get?

I never called Colangelo a good GM. They missed their chances to sell high on both of those guys imo. Even a large percentage of the people on here were clamoring for the Celtics to trade legit assets for one of those guys not too long ago.

If they were more aggressive in moving some of their prospects they could have had Kawhi. They still could have Butler. Those are just two examples. They also should have signed IT.
The Spurs traded Kawhi for Derozan, an established star.  The only way the Sixers could have gotten Kawhi was to offer Embiid or Simmons which would have been grade A stupid.  The Sixers never had Butler.  He played for the Bulls.  I thought about them going after IT but I don't think it would have been a good fit.  They want Simmons and hopefully Fultz running their offense.  Also IT is going to be focused getting a Brinks wagon since no team is going to give him a Brinks truck.

If they were willing to give up both Saric and Fultz they could have very likely had Kawhi.

Bulter wants out of Minny, the Sixers have the pieces to trade for him if they want to.

They need a vet point guard who can score to compliment Simmons. IT would have been a great fit.

I think this is pretty fair speculation. Everything I read indicated they refused to trade Fultz. I think if they included him they could have gotten it done.
I'm glad you seem to have come around on that line of thinking.  Covington, Saric, and Fultz (and maybe a 1st or two - their own) and that probably gets it done over the Raptors offer, though Toronto could have sweetened their offer a great deal with other young players.  The fact that Philly wouldn't give up Fultz, Boston wouldn't give up Brown, and the Lakers wouldn't give up Ingram & Kuzma, pretty much handed Leonard to the Raptors.  And Leonard by all accounts is looking like a monster thus far in work outs.  If Leonard is in peak form, the Raptors are going to be a scary team for the Celtics and are going to be a real threat to come out of the East.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: celticsclay on August 28, 2018, 01:49:53 PM
>Sixers looking at new GM targets, but may keep interim structure> by Wojnarowski

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/24492287/philadelphia-76ers-expanding-gm-search-not-hire-one

hmm that doesn't seem wise to me. They didn't get close with Lebron, Leonard or George and had their biggest free agent signing (Bejlica) renege on his deal. I wonder if they would have had a better summer with a top flight gm.


Yeah, they totally wiffed this summer , a legit GM would have certainly helped. Maybe they are buying into all the hype about their team for this season and think they can save money by holding off on hiring a new GM for a while.

I wouldn't wait too long. The Sixers are in really good shape, but they still have a ton of question marks. 

1) Can Embiid play 70+ games a year?
2) Can Simmons shoot?
3) Can Fultz shoot?
4) Is Saric a starter? We've seen a ton of flash, but is he consistent?

I wouldn't let this volatile team go unmanaged for too long. I think that Brett Brown has a lot of say at this point. I'm not sure about his GM capabilities.

I agree. If they had a very good GM he would already be planning on cashing in some of those prospects he deems limited for all-star caliber vet help before the rest of the league sours on some of those prospects like what happened with Okafor and Noel.
You do realize the souring on Okafor and Noel occurred on Colangelo's (a supposedly good GM) watch.  Who are these prospects that they should be cashing in on?  Who are these all-star caliber vets that are available for them to get?

I never called Colangelo a good GM. They missed their chances to sell high on both of those guys imo. Even a large percentage of the people on here were clamoring for the Celtics to trade legit assets for one of those guys not too long ago.

If they were more aggressive in moving some of their prospects they could have had Kawhi. They still could have Butler. Those are just two examples. They also should have signed IT.
The Spurs traded Kawhi for Derozan, an established star.  The only way the Sixers could have gotten Kawhi was to offer Embiid or Simmons which would have been grade A stupid.  The Sixers never had Butler.  He played for the Bulls.  I thought about them going after IT but I don't think it would have been a good fit.  They want Simmons and hopefully Fultz running their offense.  Also IT is going to be focused getting a Brinks wagon since no team is going to give him a Brinks truck.

If they were willing to give up both Saric and Fultz they could have very likely had Kawhi.

Bulter wants out of Minny, the Sixers have the pieces to trade for him if they want to.

They need a vet point guard who can score to compliment Simmons. IT would have been a great fit.

I think this is pretty fair speculation. Everything I read indicated they refused to trade Fultz. I think if they included him they could have gotten it done.
I'm glad you seem to have come around on that line of thinking.  Covington, Saric, and Fultz (and maybe a 1st or two - their own) and that probably gets it done over the Raptors offer, though Toronto could have sweetened their offer a great deal with other young players.  The fact that Philly wouldn't give up Fultz, Boston wouldn't give up Brown, and the Lakers wouldn't give up Ingram & Kuzma, pretty much handed Leonard to the Raptors.  And Leonard by all accounts is looking like a monster thus far in work outs.  If Leonard is in peak form, the Raptors are going to be a scary team for the Celtics and are going to be a real threat to come out of the East.

Was it a mistake for Philly to not make that deal?
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: smokeablount on August 28, 2018, 02:13:26 PM
>Sixers looking at new GM targets, but may keep interim structure> by Wojnarowski

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/24492287/philadelphia-76ers-expanding-gm-search-not-hire-one

hmm that doesn't seem wise to me. They didn't get close with Lebron, Leonard or George and had their biggest free agent signing (Bejlica) renege on his deal. I wonder if they would have had a better summer with a top flight gm.


Yeah, they totally wiffed this summer , a legit GM would have certainly helped. Maybe they are buying into all the hype about their team for this season and think they can save money by holding off on hiring a new GM for a while.

I wouldn't wait too long. The Sixers are in really good shape, but they still have a ton of question marks. 

1) Can Embiid play 70+ games a year?
2) Can Simmons shoot?
3) Can Fultz shoot?
4) Is Saric a starter? We've seen a ton of flash, but is he consistent?

I wouldn't let this volatile team go unmanaged for too long. I think that Brett Brown has a lot of say at this point. I'm not sure about his GM capabilities.

I agree. If they had a very good GM he would already be planning on cashing in some of those prospects he deems limited for all-star caliber vet help before the rest of the league sours on some of those prospects like what happened with Okafor and Noel.
You do realize the souring on Okafor and Noel occurred on Colangelo's (a supposedly good GM) watch.  Who are these prospects that they should be cashing in on?  Who are these all-star caliber vets that are available for them to get?

I never called Colangelo a good GM. They missed their chances to sell high on both of those guys imo. Even a large percentage of the people on here were clamoring for the Celtics to trade legit assets for one of those guys not too long ago.

If they were more aggressive in moving some of their prospects they could have had Kawhi. They still could have Butler. Those are just two examples. They also should have signed IT.
The Spurs traded Kawhi for Derozan, an established star.  The only way the Sixers could have gotten Kawhi was to offer Embiid or Simmons which would have been grade A stupid.  The Sixers never had Butler.  He played for the Bulls.  I thought about them going after IT but I don't think it would have been a good fit.  They want Simmons and hopefully Fultz running their offense.  Also IT is going to be focused getting a Brinks wagon since no team is going to give him a Brinks truck.

If they were willing to give up both Saric and Fultz they could have very likely had Kawhi.

Bulter wants out of Minny, the Sixers have the pieces to trade for him if they want to.

They need a vet point guard who can score to compliment Simmons. IT would have been a great fit.

I think this is pretty fair speculation. Everything I read indicated they refused to trade Fultz. I think if they included him they could have gotten it done.
I'm glad you seem to have come around on that line of thinking.  Covington, Saric, and Fultz (and maybe a 1st or two - their own) and that probably gets it done over the Raptors offer, though Toronto could have sweetened their offer a great deal with other young players.  The fact that Philly wouldn't give up Fultz, Boston wouldn't give up Brown, and the Lakers wouldn't give up Ingram & Kuzma, pretty much handed Leonard to the Raptors.  And Leonard by all accounts is looking like a monster thus far in work outs.  If Leonard is in peak form, the Raptors are going to be a scary team for the Celtics and are going to be a real threat to come out of the East.

Was it a mistake for Philly to not make that deal?

I don't see the high end upside in Saric, but if SA still employs Chip Englund as shooting coach, I think there's a really good chance SA could've made Philly look really, really bad in that trade. 

If Kawhi were to leave Philly (seems likely at this point) and Englund- probably the best shooting coach in the 25 years I've been watching basketball- is there to work with Fultz, San Antonio could grab a guy who ends up being an All-NBA player in exchange for a 1 year rental.  Besides the shot, Fultz looked solid last year.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: jambr380 on August 28, 2018, 04:15:32 PM
I don't see the high end upside in Saric, but if SA still employs Chip Englund as shooting coach, I think there's a really good chance SA could've made Philly look really, really bad in that trade. 

If Kawhi were to leave Philly (seems likely at this point) and Englund- probably the best shooting coach in the 25 years I've been watching basketball- is there to work with Fultz, San Antonio could grab a guy who ends up being an All-NBA player in exchange for a 1 year rental.  Besides the shot, Fultz looked solid last year.

I think it should be noted that SAS did in fact receive a current All-NBA player (each of the last two seasons) in the middle of his prime for a 1-year rental. While a bit older, DeRozan (along with Poetl) is a very good return and certainly more of a guarantee than Fultz would have been - especially with Pop looking to compete now.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Moranis on August 28, 2018, 07:46:23 PM
>Sixers looking at new GM targets, but may keep interim structure> by Wojnarowski

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/24492287/philadelphia-76ers-expanding-gm-search-not-hire-one

hmm that doesn't seem wise to me. They didn't get close with Lebron, Leonard or George and had their biggest free agent signing (Bejlica) renege on his deal. I wonder if they would have had a better summer with a top flight gm.


Yeah, they totally wiffed this summer , a legit GM would have certainly helped. Maybe they are buying into all the hype about their team for this season and think they can save money by holding off on hiring a new GM for a while.

I wouldn't wait too long. The Sixers are in really good shape, but they still have a ton of question marks. 

1) Can Embiid play 70+ games a year?
2) Can Simmons shoot?
3) Can Fultz shoot?
4) Is Saric a starter? We've seen a ton of flash, but is he consistent?

I wouldn't let this volatile team go unmanaged for too long. I think that Brett Brown has a lot of say at this point. I'm not sure about his GM capabilities.

I agree. If they had a very good GM he would already be planning on cashing in some of those prospects he deems limited for all-star caliber vet help before the rest of the league sours on some of those prospects like what happened with Okafor and Noel.
You do realize the souring on Okafor and Noel occurred on Colangelo's (a supposedly good GM) watch.  Who are these prospects that they should be cashing in on?  Who are these all-star caliber vets that are available for them to get?

I never called Colangelo a good GM. They missed their chances to sell high on both of those guys imo. Even a large percentage of the people on here were clamoring for the Celtics to trade legit assets for one of those guys not too long ago.

If they were more aggressive in moving some of their prospects they could have had Kawhi. They still could have Butler. Those are just two examples. They also should have signed IT.
The Spurs traded Kawhi for Derozan, an established star.  The only way the Sixers could have gotten Kawhi was to offer Embiid or Simmons which would have been grade A stupid.  The Sixers never had Butler.  He played for the Bulls.  I thought about them going after IT but I don't think it would have been a good fit.  They want Simmons and hopefully Fultz running their offense.  Also IT is going to be focused getting a Brinks wagon since no team is going to give him a Brinks truck.

If they were willing to give up both Saric and Fultz they could have very likely had Kawhi.

Bulter wants out of Minny, the Sixers have the pieces to trade for him if they want to.

They need a vet point guard who can score to compliment Simmons. IT would have been a great fit.

I think this is pretty fair speculation. Everything I read indicated they refused to trade Fultz. I think if they included him they could have gotten it done.
I'm glad you seem to have come around on that line of thinking.  Covington, Saric, and Fultz (and maybe a 1st or two - their own) and that probably gets it done over the Raptors offer, though Toronto could have sweetened their offer a great deal with other young players.  The fact that Philly wouldn't give up Fultz, Boston wouldn't give up Brown, and the Lakers wouldn't give up Ingram & Kuzma, pretty much handed Leonard to the Raptors.  And Leonard by all accounts is looking like a monster thus far in work outs.  If Leonard is in peak form, the Raptors are going to be a scary team for the Celtics and are going to be a real threat to come out of the East.

Was it a mistake for Philly to not make that deal?
I think so because I think Leonard staying in Philly was a real possibility and see no real way he ends up there now.  Now maybe if they back channel strongly believe someone like Klay Thompson signs with them, then maybe you keep your guys and wait a summer, but Philly could certainly end up losing out on a potential MVP in his prime because it wanted to keep its at best 3rd, 4th, and 5th best players (at best).  And let's be clear, I absolutely think that Philly with Embiid, Johnson, Leonard, Fultz, Simmons with Redick, McConnell, Smith, etc. would have been the best team in the east (or at least would be favored).  YOu have to take that shot if you are the Sixers.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: tazzmaniac on August 28, 2018, 07:59:35 PM
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The more I think about it Simmons and IT is just a lousy fit.  IT has to have the ball in his hands or his defensive liability keeps him off the court.
Were you really thinking about it, or did you read my post just above yours?   ;D    ;D   ;D
Nope.  I was thinking about my previous post where I said IT wasn't a good fit with Simmons and decided that wasn't strong enough. 
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: celticsclay on August 28, 2018, 08:25:52 PM
>Sixers looking at new GM targets, but may keep interim structure> by Wojnarowski

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/24492287/philadelphia-76ers-expanding-gm-search-not-hire-one

hmm that doesn't seem wise to me. They didn't get close with Lebron, Leonard or George and had their biggest free agent signing (Bejlica) renege on his deal. I wonder if they would have had a better summer with a top flight gm.


Yeah, they totally wiffed this summer , a legit GM would have certainly helped. Maybe they are buying into all the hype about their team for this season and think they can save money by holding off on hiring a new GM for a while.

I wouldn't wait too long. The Sixers are in really good shape, but they still have a ton of question marks. 

1) Can Embiid play 70+ games a year?
2) Can Simmons shoot?
3) Can Fultz shoot?
4) Is Saric a starter? We've seen a ton of flash, but is he consistent?

I wouldn't let this volatile team go unmanaged for too long. I think that Brett Brown has a lot of say at this point. I'm not sure about his GM capabilities.

I agree. If they had a very good GM he would already be planning on cashing in some of those prospects he deems limited for all-star caliber vet help before the rest of the league sours on some of those prospects like what happened with Okafor and Noel.
You do realize the souring on Okafor and Noel occurred on Colangelo's (a supposedly good GM) watch.  Who are these prospects that they should be cashing in on?  Who are these all-star caliber vets that are available for them to get?

I never called Colangelo a good GM. They missed their chances to sell high on both of those guys imo. Even a large percentage of the people on here were clamoring for the Celtics to trade legit assets for one of those guys not too long ago.

If they were more aggressive in moving some of their prospects they could have had Kawhi. They still could have Butler. Those are just two examples. They also should have signed IT.
The Spurs traded Kawhi for Derozan, an established star.  The only way the Sixers could have gotten Kawhi was to offer Embiid or Simmons which would have been grade A stupid.  The Sixers never had Butler.  He played for the Bulls.  I thought about them going after IT but I don't think it would have been a good fit.  They want Simmons and hopefully Fultz running their offense.  Also IT is going to be focused getting a Brinks wagon since no team is going to give him a Brinks truck.

If they were willing to give up both Saric and Fultz they could have very likely had Kawhi.

Bulter wants out of Minny, the Sixers have the pieces to trade for him if they want to.

They need a vet point guard who can score to compliment Simmons. IT would have been a great fit.

I think this is pretty fair speculation. Everything I read indicated they refused to trade Fultz. I think if they included him they could have gotten it done.
I'm glad you seem to have come around on that line of thinking.  Covington, Saric, and Fultz (and maybe a 1st or two - their own) and that probably gets it done over the Raptors offer, though Toronto could have sweetened their offer a great deal with other young players.  The fact that Philly wouldn't give up Fultz, Boston wouldn't give up Brown, and the Lakers wouldn't give up Ingram & Kuzma, pretty much handed Leonard to the Raptors.  And Leonard by all accounts is looking like a monster thus far in work outs.  If Leonard is in peak form, the Raptors are going to be a scary team for the Celtics and are going to be a real threat to come out of the East.

Was it a mistake for Philly to not make that deal?
I think so because I think Leonard staying in Philly was a real possibility and see no real way he ends up there now.  Now maybe if they back channel strongly believe someone like Klay Thompson signs with them, then maybe you keep your guys and wait a summer, but Philly could certainly end up losing out on a potential MVP in his prime because it wanted to keep its at best 3rd, 4th, and 5th best players (at best).  And let's be clear, I absolutely think that Philly with Embiid, Johnson, Leonard, Fultz, Simmons with Redick, McConnell, Smith, etc. would have been the best team in the east (or at least would be favored).  YOu have to take that shot if you are the Sixers.

What do you think happens to them if they never get their free agent star? I thought this summer was their best shot because Leonard, Lebron and George were 3 great players that seemed like they could change teams. If golden state blows it up, who is the best player that will change teams
Next year?
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: tazzmaniac on August 28, 2018, 09:09:26 PM
>Sixers looking at new GM targets, but may keep interim structure> by Wojnarowski

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/24492287/philadelphia-76ers-expanding-gm-search-not-hire-one

hmm that doesn't seem wise to me. They didn't get close with Lebron, Leonard or George and had their biggest free agent signing (Bejlica) renege on his deal. I wonder if they would have had a better summer with a top flight gm.
I doubt it.  George decided to re-sign with OKC before free agency started.  He didn't even give the Lakers a chance and they were the team George was supposed destined for.  The Spurs traded Leonard for an established all-start.  They didn't young talent/picks whether it was from the Sixers or the Lakers.  There was no decision for Lebron this time.  He clearly was going to the Lakers unless they screwed the pooch.  As for Bjelica, he reneged on a 1 year/4.5M contract for a 3 year/20.5M contract (2 years guaranteed). 

Tell me how a top flight GM, even Danny, could have or should have done anything different in any of those situations.  What the Sixers did do when they couldn't get any of their top targets was only sign 1 year contracts and make trades that allowed them to maintain their cap space for 2019. 

There's no reason for the Sixers to rush their GM search.  It is much more important to find the right person who will fit into their approach and be able to work well with the people they have in place including coach Brown.

I would have bet a 1000 dollars there would be a post from you within 24 hours explaining why everything was fine with the 76ers. Its pretty comedic at this point.
In my opinion, a realistic take on 76ers

Positives of summer: Embiid, Simmons healthy
Fultz back to playing basketball
Landed future first round pick on draft day
Resigned Reddick
Acquired Wilson chandler who gives them some wing versatility

Negatives
Struck out on their star hunting despite having second best odds to get George, Lebron entering the summer
Lost bench depth in Illy and Bellinelli that they know fit in their system and liked playing there
First round pick injured and may miss large part of season, developmental time
Could have used more shooting (Bjelica would have helped, Chandler pretty average shooter)

I will also add that it is really moving the goalposts to act like there were not tons of people thought the 76ers had a great chance of getting Lebron and others entering the offseason

https://www.libertyballers.com/2018/6/4/17427100/how-likely-are-the-sixers-to-sign-lebron-james
https://www.libertyballers.com/2018/5/10/17341480/sixers-with-3rd-highest-odds-as-destination-for-paul-george
https://www.libertyballers.com/2018/7/9/17548650/kawhi-only-wants-to-play-for-one-easten-conference-team

As a Celtics fan, you should be happy they didn't get this guys. It is a great relief for them staying a tier below us. Why is it so difficult for you to be happy about it and admit it was bad for them?
Funny you are the one that keeps posting about the Sixers.  I just reply to put some reality into the picture.  Posting Liberty Baller links to speculative media and betting house odds doesn't mean anything.  Liberty Ballers site is much worse than it was a couple years ago.  The media wants eyeballs and the betting houses want peoples' money.  The fact that OKC planned a party to announce George's re-signing at the stroke of free agency should tell anyone with half a brain that the Sixers and the other 28 teams (including the Lakers who had the highest odds according to your link) had no chance at George. 

Unless you think the Sixers should have matched the contracts that Bjelica, Illy or Belinelli got, what is the point of bringing them up?  The reality is that the Sixers offering them anything other than 1 year deals would have been a stupid move.  The reality is that Illy and Beli weren't particularly good in last year's playoffs.  The reality is Chandler and Muscala should basically offset losing Illy and Beli.  I wouldn't expect Muscala to be useful in the playoffs but Chandler might be. 

Everything basically is fine with the Sixers as far as it is possible to tell.  Now maybe Embiid gets hurt again, maybe Simmons has spent too much time on Kylie Jenner and not enough time improving his basketball skills and maybe Fultz gets the yips again when he has to play in an actual NBA game. 

That doesn't mean the Sixers didn't screw up some things.  Their PR is a disaster.  Unless you're a con man (cough... Trump), you're supposed to under sell and over deliver.  You don't keep talking about star hunting.  You don't fly out to LA to meet unless Lebron is actually going to attend the meeting.  When you miss out on Lebron, you don't talk about how close you were regardless of how close you actually were.  If you were close, that means you screwed up and couldn't close the deal.  As opposed to, we made a great pitch but Lebron's interests and goals at this point in his career better aligned with him being in Los Angeles. 

As far as their moves, I said at the time that I didn't really like the Bjelica move and would have gone after Wayne Ellington.  He would have been a good Beli replacement and he only got 1yr/6.5M from the Heat.  The Sixers only had the room exception (1yr/4.5M) but I would have done a 2nd year with a partial guarantee if necessary. 
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Moranis on August 28, 2018, 09:21:41 PM
>Sixers looking at new GM targets, but may keep interim structure> by Wojnarowski

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/24492287/philadelphia-76ers-expanding-gm-search-not-hire-one

hmm that doesn't seem wise to me. They didn't get close with Lebron, Leonard or George and had their biggest free agent signing (Bejlica) renege on his deal. I wonder if they would have had a better summer with a top flight gm.


Yeah, they totally wiffed this summer , a legit GM would have certainly helped. Maybe they are buying into all the hype about their team for this season and think they can save money by holding off on hiring a new GM for a while.

I wouldn't wait too long. The Sixers are in really good shape, but they still have a ton of question marks. 

1) Can Embiid play 70+ games a year?
2) Can Simmons shoot?
3) Can Fultz shoot?
4) Is Saric a starter? We've seen a ton of flash, but is he consistent?

I wouldn't let this volatile team go unmanaged for too long. I think that Brett Brown has a lot of say at this point. I'm not sure about his GM capabilities.

I agree. If they had a very good GM he would already be planning on cashing in some of those prospects he deems limited for all-star caliber vet help before the rest of the league sours on some of those prospects like what happened with Okafor and Noel.
You do realize the souring on Okafor and Noel occurred on Colangelo's (a supposedly good GM) watch.  Who are these prospects that they should be cashing in on?  Who are these all-star caliber vets that are available for them to get?

I never called Colangelo a good GM. They missed their chances to sell high on both of those guys imo. Even a large percentage of the people on here were clamoring for the Celtics to trade legit assets for one of those guys not too long ago.

If they were more aggressive in moving some of their prospects they could have had Kawhi. They still could have Butler. Those are just two examples. They also should have signed IT.
The Spurs traded Kawhi for Derozan, an established star.  The only way the Sixers could have gotten Kawhi was to offer Embiid or Simmons which would have been grade A stupid.  The Sixers never had Butler.  He played for the Bulls.  I thought about them going after IT but I don't think it would have been a good fit.  They want Simmons and hopefully Fultz running their offense.  Also IT is going to be focused getting a Brinks wagon since no team is going to give him a Brinks truck.

If they were willing to give up both Saric and Fultz they could have very likely had Kawhi.

Bulter wants out of Minny, the Sixers have the pieces to trade for him if they want to.

They need a vet point guard who can score to compliment Simmons. IT would have been a great fit.

I think this is pretty fair speculation. Everything I read indicated they refused to trade Fultz. I think if they included him they could have gotten it done.
I'm glad you seem to have come around on that line of thinking.  Covington, Saric, and Fultz (and maybe a 1st or two - their own) and that probably gets it done over the Raptors offer, though Toronto could have sweetened their offer a great deal with other young players.  The fact that Philly wouldn't give up Fultz, Boston wouldn't give up Brown, and the Lakers wouldn't give up Ingram & Kuzma, pretty much handed Leonard to the Raptors.  And Leonard by all accounts is looking like a monster thus far in work outs.  If Leonard is in peak form, the Raptors are going to be a scary team for the Celtics and are going to be a real threat to come out of the East.

Was it a mistake for Philly to not make that deal?
I think so because I think Leonard staying in Philly was a real possibility and see no real way he ends up there now.  Now maybe if they back channel strongly believe someone like Klay Thompson signs with them, then maybe you keep your guys and wait a summer, but Philly could certainly end up losing out on a potential MVP in his prime because it wanted to keep its at best 3rd, 4th, and 5th best players (at best).  And let's be clear, I absolutely think that Philly with Embiid, Johnson, Leonard, Fultz, Simmons with Redick, McConnell, Smith, etc. would have been the best team in the east (or at least would be favored).  YOu have to take that shot if you are the Sixers.

What do you think happens to them if they never get their free agent star? I thought this summer was their best shot because Leonard, Lebron and George were 3 great players that seemed like they could change teams. If golden state blows it up, who is the best player that will change teams
Next year?
Leonard is a free agent next year (though I think he either stays in Toronto or goes to the one of the LA teams, which is why Philly should have gone for it).  Durant certainly could leave GS and if he stays I think there is a real chance Thompson leaves.  Cousins is almost assuredly leaving GS as well.  Butler is a very real possibility of moving and he would actually be a pretty good fit for Philly (he is in the same general range of player as George).  I doubt Kemba Walker stays in Charlotte, though who knows with him (and he probably doesn't end up in Philly).  Irving certainly could leave Boston (though I doubt Philly is on his radar). 

Then there are lesser free agents like D. Jordan, Mirotic, Beverly, Redick, etc. not to mention the restricted free agents like the Zinger (though I can't see him leaving the Knicks).

As for if Philly never lands a free agent star, I think they will be a 50+ win team for a decade assuming Embiid and Simmons stay healthy (and stay in Philly), especially if Fultz ends up looking anything like a #1 pick.  The simple reality is the Sixers don't need to land a major free agent to be a contender because Embiid and Simmons are on a path to superstardom (frankly Embiid might already be the 3rd best player in the East behind just Giannis and Kawhi). 
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: celticsclay on August 28, 2018, 10:17:22 PM
>Sixers looking at new GM targets, but may keep interim structure> by Wojnarowski

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/24492287/philadelphia-76ers-expanding-gm-search-not-hire-one

hmm that doesn't seem wise to me. They didn't get close with Lebron, Leonard or George and had their biggest free agent signing (Bejlica) renege on his deal. I wonder if they would have had a better summer with a top flight gm.


Yeah, they totally wiffed this summer , a legit GM would have certainly helped. Maybe they are buying into all the hype about their team for this season and think they can save money by holding off on hiring a new GM for a while.

I wouldn't wait too long. The Sixers are in really good shape, but they still have a ton of question marks. 

1) Can Embiid play 70+ games a year?
2) Can Simmons shoot?
3) Can Fultz shoot?
4) Is Saric a starter? We've seen a ton of flash, but is he consistent?

I wouldn't let this volatile team go unmanaged for too long. I think that Brett Brown has a lot of say at this point. I'm not sure about his GM capabilities.

I agree. If they had a very good GM he would already be planning on cashing in some of those prospects he deems limited for all-star caliber vet help before the rest of the league sours on some of those prospects like what happened with Okafor and Noel.
You do realize the souring on Okafor and Noel occurred on Colangelo's (a supposedly good GM) watch.  Who are these prospects that they should be cashing in on?  Who are these all-star caliber vets that are available for them to get?

I never called Colangelo a good GM. They missed their chances to sell high on both of those guys imo. Even a large percentage of the people on here were clamoring for the Celtics to trade legit assets for one of those guys not too long ago.

If they were more aggressive in moving some of their prospects they could have had Kawhi. They still could have Butler. Those are just two examples. They also should have signed IT.
The Spurs traded Kawhi for Derozan, an established star.  The only way the Sixers could have gotten Kawhi was to offer Embiid or Simmons which would have been grade A stupid.  The Sixers never had Butler.  He played for the Bulls.  I thought about them going after IT but I don't think it would have been a good fit.  They want Simmons and hopefully Fultz running their offense.  Also IT is going to be focused getting a Brinks wagon since no team is going to give him a Brinks truck.

If they were willing to give up both Saric and Fultz they could have very likely had Kawhi.

Bulter wants out of Minny, the Sixers have the pieces to trade for him if they want to.

They need a vet point guard who can score to compliment Simmons. IT would have been a great fit.

I think this is pretty fair speculation. Everything I read indicated they refused to trade Fultz. I think if they included him they could have gotten it done.
I'm glad you seem to have come around on that line of thinking.  Covington, Saric, and Fultz (and maybe a 1st or two - their own) and that probably gets it done over the Raptors offer, though Toronto could have sweetened their offer a great deal with other young players.  The fact that Philly wouldn't give up Fultz, Boston wouldn't give up Brown, and the Lakers wouldn't give up Ingram & Kuzma, pretty much handed Leonard to the Raptors.  And Leonard by all accounts is looking like a monster thus far in work outs.  If Leonard is in peak form, the Raptors are going to be a scary team for the Celtics and are going to be a real threat to come out of the East.

Was it a mistake for Philly to not make that deal?
I think so because I think Leonard staying in Philly was a real possibility and see no real way he ends up there now.  Now maybe if they back channel strongly believe someone like Klay Thompson signs with them, then maybe you keep your guys and wait a summer, but Philly could certainly end up losing out on a potential MVP in his prime because it wanted to keep its at best 3rd, 4th, and 5th best players (at best).  And let's be clear, I absolutely think that Philly with Embiid, Johnson, Leonard, Fultz, Simmons with Redick, McConnell, Smith, etc. would have been the best team in the east (or at least would be favored).  YOu have to take that shot if you are the Sixers.

What do you think happens to them if they never get their free agent star? I thought this summer was their best shot because Leonard, Lebron and George were 3 great players that seemed like they could change teams. If golden state blows it up, who is the best player that will change teams
Next year?
Leonard is a free agent next year (though I think he either stays in Toronto or goes to the one of the LA teams, which is why Philly should have gone for it).  Durant certainly could leave GS and if he stays I think there is a real chance Thompson leaves.  Cousins is almost assuredly leaving GS as well.  Butler is a very real possibility of moving and he would actually be a pretty good fit for Philly (he is in the same general range of player as George).  I doubt Kemba Walker stays in Charlotte, though who knows with him (and he probably doesn't end up in Philly).  Irving certainly could leave Boston (though I doubt Philly is on his radar). 

Then there are lesser free agents like D. Jordan, Mirotic, Beverly, Redick, etc. not to mention the restricted free agents like the Zinger (though I can't see him leaving the Knicks).

As for if Philly never lands a free agent star, I think they will be a 50+ win team for a decade assuming Embiid and Simmons stay healthy (and stay in Philly), especially if Fultz ends up looking anything like a #1 pick.  The simple reality is the Sixers don't need to land a major free agent to be a contender because Embiid and Simmons are on a path to superstardom (frankly Embiid might already be the 3rd best player in the East behind just Giannis and Kawhi).
I agree with you about Leonard. I would be pretty shocked if he didn't end up on an LA team or in Toronto. I can't imagine cousins is a fit with embiid. I don't think walker would make any sense for them with Fultz and Simmons. I think Thompson and butler are the two guys it would happen with, but you can't really feel confident that they have higher than a 20-25% chance of getting either guy. I agree with what Brett brown says that they need one more star to really contend for a title
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Moranis on August 29, 2018, 09:47:28 AM
>Sixers looking at new GM targets, but may keep interim structure> by Wojnarowski

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/24492287/philadelphia-76ers-expanding-gm-search-not-hire-one

hmm that doesn't seem wise to me. They didn't get close with Lebron, Leonard or George and had their biggest free agent signing (Bejlica) renege on his deal. I wonder if they would have had a better summer with a top flight gm.


Yeah, they totally wiffed this summer , a legit GM would have certainly helped. Maybe they are buying into all the hype about their team for this season and think they can save money by holding off on hiring a new GM for a while.

I wouldn't wait too long. The Sixers are in really good shape, but they still have a ton of question marks. 

1) Can Embiid play 70+ games a year?
2) Can Simmons shoot?
3) Can Fultz shoot?
4) Is Saric a starter? We've seen a ton of flash, but is he consistent?

I wouldn't let this volatile team go unmanaged for too long. I think that Brett Brown has a lot of say at this point. I'm not sure about his GM capabilities.

I agree. If they had a very good GM he would already be planning on cashing in some of those prospects he deems limited for all-star caliber vet help before the rest of the league sours on some of those prospects like what happened with Okafor and Noel.
You do realize the souring on Okafor and Noel occurred on Colangelo's (a supposedly good GM) watch.  Who are these prospects that they should be cashing in on?  Who are these all-star caliber vets that are available for them to get?

I never called Colangelo a good GM. They missed their chances to sell high on both of those guys imo. Even a large percentage of the people on here were clamoring for the Celtics to trade legit assets for one of those guys not too long ago.

If they were more aggressive in moving some of their prospects they could have had Kawhi. They still could have Butler. Those are just two examples. They also should have signed IT.
The Spurs traded Kawhi for Derozan, an established star.  The only way the Sixers could have gotten Kawhi was to offer Embiid or Simmons which would have been grade A stupid.  The Sixers never had Butler.  He played for the Bulls.  I thought about them going after IT but I don't think it would have been a good fit.  They want Simmons and hopefully Fultz running their offense.  Also IT is going to be focused getting a Brinks wagon since no team is going to give him a Brinks truck.

If they were willing to give up both Saric and Fultz they could have very likely had Kawhi.

Bulter wants out of Minny, the Sixers have the pieces to trade for him if they want to.

They need a vet point guard who can score to compliment Simmons. IT would have been a great fit.

I think this is pretty fair speculation. Everything I read indicated they refused to trade Fultz. I think if they included him they could have gotten it done.
I'm glad you seem to have come around on that line of thinking.  Covington, Saric, and Fultz (and maybe a 1st or two - their own) and that probably gets it done over the Raptors offer, though Toronto could have sweetened their offer a great deal with other young players.  The fact that Philly wouldn't give up Fultz, Boston wouldn't give up Brown, and the Lakers wouldn't give up Ingram & Kuzma, pretty much handed Leonard to the Raptors.  And Leonard by all accounts is looking like a monster thus far in work outs.  If Leonard is in peak form, the Raptors are going to be a scary team for the Celtics and are going to be a real threat to come out of the East.

Was it a mistake for Philly to not make that deal?
I think so because I think Leonard staying in Philly was a real possibility and see no real way he ends up there now.  Now maybe if they back channel strongly believe someone like Klay Thompson signs with them, then maybe you keep your guys and wait a summer, but Philly could certainly end up losing out on a potential MVP in his prime because it wanted to keep its at best 3rd, 4th, and 5th best players (at best).  And let's be clear, I absolutely think that Philly with Embiid, Johnson, Leonard, Fultz, Simmons with Redick, McConnell, Smith, etc. would have been the best team in the east (or at least would be favored).  YOu have to take that shot if you are the Sixers.

What do you think happens to them if they never get their free agent star? I thought this summer was their best shot because Leonard, Lebron and George were 3 great players that seemed like they could change teams. If golden state blows it up, who is the best player that will change teams
Next year?
Leonard is a free agent next year (though I think he either stays in Toronto or goes to the one of the LA teams, which is why Philly should have gone for it).  Durant certainly could leave GS and if he stays I think there is a real chance Thompson leaves.  Cousins is almost assuredly leaving GS as well.  Butler is a very real possibility of moving and he would actually be a pretty good fit for Philly (he is in the same general range of player as George).  I doubt Kemba Walker stays in Charlotte, though who knows with him (and he probably doesn't end up in Philly).  Irving certainly could leave Boston (though I doubt Philly is on his radar). 

Then there are lesser free agents like D. Jordan, Mirotic, Beverly, Redick, etc. not to mention the restricted free agents like the Zinger (though I can't see him leaving the Knicks).

As for if Philly never lands a free agent star, I think they will be a 50+ win team for a decade assuming Embiid and Simmons stay healthy (and stay in Philly), especially if Fultz ends up looking anything like a #1 pick.  The simple reality is the Sixers don't need to land a major free agent to be a contender because Embiid and Simmons are on a path to superstardom (frankly Embiid might already be the 3rd best player in the East behind just Giannis and Kawhi).
I agree with you about Leonard. I would be pretty shocked if he didn't end up on an LA team or in Toronto. I can't imagine cousins is a fit with embiid. I don't think walker would make any sense for them with Fultz and Simmons. I think Thompson and butler are the two guys it would happen with, but you can't really feel confident that they have higher than a 20-25% chance of getting either guy. I agree with what Brett brown says that they need one more star to really contend for a title
I actually think Cousins would be interesting in Philly.  Cousins prefers to play PF and before the injury he was decent guarding quicker PF's (at least real PF's and not SF's playing PF).  And they would be almost unguardable for other teams on the other end of the floor.  I mean how do you guard 2 massive 7 footers that have 3 point range.  That would be the type of team that could run rough shot through the league because they are different and unique.  That is why it was a shame Cousins got hurt because I would have been interested to see what him and Davis could have done together in the playoffs and that was on a team with a subpar backcourt and limited depth.  The Sixers would be very interesting with a starting 5 of Embiid, Cousins, Covington, Fultz, and Simmons.  Maybe they bring Redick or Chandler back on the MLE and they still have Saric, Smith, McConnell, Shamet, Korkmaz, Bolden, and their 2019 draft picks. 
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: celticsclay on August 29, 2018, 12:35:38 PM
>Sixers looking at new GM targets, but may keep interim structure> by Wojnarowski

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/24492287/philadelphia-76ers-expanding-gm-search-not-hire-one

hmm that doesn't seem wise to me. They didn't get close with Lebron, Leonard or George and had their biggest free agent signing (Bejlica) renege on his deal. I wonder if they would have had a better summer with a top flight gm.


Yeah, they totally wiffed this summer , a legit GM would have certainly helped. Maybe they are buying into all the hype about their team for this season and think they can save money by holding off on hiring a new GM for a while.

I wouldn't wait too long. The Sixers are in really good shape, but they still have a ton of question marks. 

1) Can Embiid play 70+ games a year?
2) Can Simmons shoot?
3) Can Fultz shoot?
4) Is Saric a starter? We've seen a ton of flash, but is he consistent?

I wouldn't let this volatile team go unmanaged for too long. I think that Brett Brown has a lot of say at this point. I'm not sure about his GM capabilities.

I agree. If they had a very good GM he would already be planning on cashing in some of those prospects he deems limited for all-star caliber vet help before the rest of the league sours on some of those prospects like what happened with Okafor and Noel.
You do realize the souring on Okafor and Noel occurred on Colangelo's (a supposedly good GM) watch.  Who are these prospects that they should be cashing in on?  Who are these all-star caliber vets that are available for them to get?

I never called Colangelo a good GM. They missed their chances to sell high on both of those guys imo. Even a large percentage of the people on here were clamoring for the Celtics to trade legit assets for one of those guys not too long ago.

If they were more aggressive in moving some of their prospects they could have had Kawhi. They still could have Butler. Those are just two examples. They also should have signed IT.
The Spurs traded Kawhi for Derozan, an established star.  The only way the Sixers could have gotten Kawhi was to offer Embiid or Simmons which would have been grade A stupid.  The Sixers never had Butler.  He played for the Bulls.  I thought about them going after IT but I don't think it would have been a good fit.  They want Simmons and hopefully Fultz running their offense.  Also IT is going to be focused getting a Brinks wagon since no team is going to give him a Brinks truck.

If they were willing to give up both Saric and Fultz they could have very likely had Kawhi.

Bulter wants out of Minny, the Sixers have the pieces to trade for him if they want to.

They need a vet point guard who can score to compliment Simmons. IT would have been a great fit.

I think this is pretty fair speculation. Everything I read indicated they refused to trade Fultz. I think if they included him they could have gotten it done.
I'm glad you seem to have come around on that line of thinking.  Covington, Saric, and Fultz (and maybe a 1st or two - their own) and that probably gets it done over the Raptors offer, though Toronto could have sweetened their offer a great deal with other young players.  The fact that Philly wouldn't give up Fultz, Boston wouldn't give up Brown, and the Lakers wouldn't give up Ingram & Kuzma, pretty much handed Leonard to the Raptors.  And Leonard by all accounts is looking like a monster thus far in work outs.  If Leonard is in peak form, the Raptors are going to be a scary team for the Celtics and are going to be a real threat to come out of the East.

Was it a mistake for Philly to not make that deal?
I think so because I think Leonard staying in Philly was a real possibility and see no real way he ends up there now.  Now maybe if they back channel strongly believe someone like Klay Thompson signs with them, then maybe you keep your guys and wait a summer, but Philly could certainly end up losing out on a potential MVP in his prime because it wanted to keep its at best 3rd, 4th, and 5th best players (at best).  And let's be clear, I absolutely think that Philly with Embiid, Johnson, Leonard, Fultz, Simmons with Redick, McConnell, Smith, etc. would have been the best team in the east (or at least would be favored).  YOu have to take that shot if you are the Sixers.

What do you think happens to them if they never get their free agent star? I thought this summer was their best shot because Leonard, Lebron and George were 3 great players that seemed like they could change teams. If golden state blows it up, who is the best player that will change teams
Next year?
Leonard is a free agent next year (though I think he either stays in Toronto or goes to the one of the LA teams, which is why Philly should have gone for it).  Durant certainly could leave GS and if he stays I think there is a real chance Thompson leaves.  Cousins is almost assuredly leaving GS as well.  Butler is a very real possibility of moving and he would actually be a pretty good fit for Philly (he is in the same general range of player as George).  I doubt Kemba Walker stays in Charlotte, though who knows with him (and he probably doesn't end up in Philly).  Irving certainly could leave Boston (though I doubt Philly is on his radar). 

Then there are lesser free agents like D. Jordan, Mirotic, Beverly, Redick, etc. not to mention the restricted free agents like the Zinger (though I can't see him leaving the Knicks).

As for if Philly never lands a free agent star, I think they will be a 50+ win team for a decade assuming Embiid and Simmons stay healthy (and stay in Philly), especially if Fultz ends up looking anything like a #1 pick.  The simple reality is the Sixers don't need to land a major free agent to be a contender because Embiid and Simmons are on a path to superstardom (frankly Embiid might already be the 3rd best player in the East behind just Giannis and Kawhi).
I agree with you about Leonard. I would be pretty shocked if he didn't end up on an LA team or in Toronto. I can't imagine cousins is a fit with embiid. I don't think walker would make any sense for them with Fultz and Simmons. I think Thompson and butler are the two guys it would happen with, but you can't really feel confident that they have higher than a 20-25% chance of getting either guy. I agree with what Brett brown says that they need one more star to really contend for a title
I actually think Cousins would be interesting in Philly.  Cousins prefers to play PF and before the injury he was decent guarding quicker PF's (at least real PF's and not SF's playing PF).  And they would be almost unguardable for other teams on the other end of the floor.  I mean how do you guard 2 massive 7 footers that have 3 point range.  That would be the type of team that could run rough shot through the league because they are different and unique.  That is why it was a shame Cousins got hurt because I would have been interested to see what him and Davis could have done together in the playoffs and that was on a team with a subpar backcourt and limited depth.  The Sixers would be very interesting with a starting 5 of Embiid, Cousins, Covington, Fultz, and Simmons.  Maybe they bring Redick or Chandler back on the MLE and they still have Saric, Smith, McConnell, Shamet, Korkmaz, Bolden, and their 2019 draft picks.

I liked the idea of Cousins and Davis, but they really did seem like a better team without him and mirotic playing instead. You now have to add in the fact that Cousins is going to, in a best case scenario, lose a half step from his injury and entering his 30's and it seems even less likely a twin pairings will work. I also think that of all the teams that would consider trying a two center lineup any time soon the 76ers would be low on the list given their struggles to get okafor, noel and embiid on the court effectively together at any point (and watching their value depreciate because of it). From Cousin's perspective, he has lost a lot of money this year and only has a limited amount of contracts left. He seems like he will go to the highest bidder that will let him put up numbers (he was reportedly upset when the kings trade cost him the chance at a super max).
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: greece66 on September 04, 2018, 08:20:16 AM
I'm rather late (not for the first time) but I still post it for discussion purposes.

Per Woj, the Sixers will meet this week with Golden State’s Larry Harris, Houston’s Gersson Rosas and Utah’s Justin Zanik to fill their vacant GM spot.

https://www.crossingbroad.com/2018/08/woj-sixers-get-permission-to-speak-with-three-general-manager-candidates.html
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: greece66 on September 04, 2018, 03:36:56 PM
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https://twitter.com/JonKrawczynski/status/1035956236615929858
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: celticsclay on September 04, 2018, 03:47:48 PM
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https://twitter.com/JonKrawczynski/status/1035956236615929858

This would be so great
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: tazzmaniac on September 04, 2018, 04:00:58 PM
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https://twitter.com/JonKrawczynski/status/1035956236615929858

This would be so great
Great in what sense?  Do you think Deng would be a significant plus for the TWolves? 
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: celticsclay on September 04, 2018, 05:26:58 PM
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https://twitter.com/JonKrawczynski/status/1035956236615929858

This would be so great
Great in what sense?  Do you think Deng would be a significant plus for the TWolves?

No great in sheer comedy of Thibs being able to assemble 5 key rotation players from his 2013 bulls squad on the Timberwolves 5 years later when all of them except Butler and half of Taj Gibson are extremely washed up.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on September 04, 2018, 07:47:51 PM
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https://twitter.com/JonKrawczynski/status/1035956236615929858

This would be so great

Great in what sense?  Do you think Deng would be a significant plus for the TWolves?

No great in sheer comedy of Thibs being able to assemble 5 key rotation players from his 2013 bulls squad on the Timberwolves 5 years later when all of them except Butler and half of Taj Gibson are extremely washed up.

No one better qualified to break down what's left of a washed up vet.
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: CelticSooner on September 04, 2018, 09:14:41 PM
(https://i.gyazo.com/05f478f709542438332e64eaa4504020.png)

https://twitter.com/JonKrawczynski/status/1035956236615929858

This would be so great
Great in what sense?  Do you think Deng would be a significant plus for the TWolves?

No great in sheer comedy of Thibs being able to assemble 5 key rotation players from his 2013 bulls squad on the Timberwolves 5 years later when all of them except Butler and half of Taj Gibson are extremely washed up.

You can't burn up a players legs when they are already toast...

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Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: rondofan1255 on September 08, 2018, 02:10:57 PM
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The Cavs have 13 players under contract heading into training camp, which starts with media day on Sept. 24. They are waiting on restricted free agent Rodney Hood, who is looking at either accepting the Cavs' one-year, $3.4 million qualifying offer or trying to get them to come up from their three-year offer worth, according to sources, about $7 million annually.

Hood is said to be looking for something in the $9 million range annually.

https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2018/09/cavaliers_sign_david_nwaba_to.html
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: greece66 on September 16, 2018, 09:49:16 AM
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https://twitter.com/JonKrawczynski/status/1041075425865281536
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: Moranis on September 18, 2018, 08:36:07 AM
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The Cavs have 13 players under contract heading into training camp, which starts with media day on Sept. 24. They are waiting on restricted free agent Rodney Hood, who is looking at either accepting the Cavs' one-year, $3.4 million qualifying offer or trying to get them to come up from their three-year offer worth, according to sources, about $7 million annually.

Hood is said to be looking for something in the $9 million range annually.

https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2018/09/cavaliers_sign_david_nwaba_to.html
He signed the QO, but if he really only wanted 9 million a year for 3 years, the Cavs should have signed him to that.  I think he could have a huge year as the #1 small/wing on that team and could be in line for a lot more money next summer. 
Title: Re: Summer 2018 Rumored Moves
Post by: rondofan1255 on October 01, 2018, 09:16:36 PM
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It appears that Warriors guard Patrick McCaw plans to turn down two-year $4M offer from the champs tonight, a source said.

https://twitter.com/MarcJSpearsESPN/status/1046930383428669441