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Wizards giving impression no player exempt from possible trade talks
As the Washington Wizards' season spirals, the franchise has started to deliver teams an impression that every player on their roster -- including All-Star guards John Wall and Bradley Beal -- is available for discussion in trade scenarios, league sources told ESPN.
Washington's preference remains to reshape the team around Wall and Beal, but poor play among key teammates is limiting their trade value and paralyzing the Wizards' efforts to make meaningful changes to a roster that no longer appears functional together, league sources said.
The Wizards have resisted including Wall or Beal in previous trade talks, including discussions that they held for the league's past two available stars, Kawhi Leonard and Jimmy Butler, league sources said. While Washington hasn't shopped its All-Star backcourt, it is rapidly becoming apparent to the organization that it needs to start considering overtures for them.
Washington had hopes that forwards Otto Porter and Kelly Oubre could be centerpieces of deals that could return an impact third star, but those players have fetched minimal interest on the market. Porter has a massive contract on the books, including three years, $81 million left.
Coach Scott Brooks was fierce in his criticism of the Wizards after back-to-back home losses to Brooklyn and Portland this weekend.
"We got to just play with more enthusiasm, more effort, more energy," Brooks told reporters on Sunday night. "It's embarrassing."
The Wizards are 5-11, just two games ahead of tanking Atlanta in the Southeast Division.
Beal, 25, could turn out to be the guard with the most value on the trade market -- with his 3-point shooting ability, a more manageable contract, and being three younger than Wall. Wall's contract extension starts in 2019-20, which will average $42 million annually over the next four years.
What further complicates moving Wall is the inclusion of a 15 percent trade kicker in his deal. Wall is a five-time All-Star who has been a favorite of ownership.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25320702/washington-wizards-include-john-wall-bradley-beal-trade-scenarios
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This should give Wizards fans nightmares in their sleep.
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/washington-wizards/yearly/cap/
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Brown, Rozier, and a pick for Beal. A man can dream, right?
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Brown, Rozier, and a pick for Beal. A man can dream, right?
Hopefully it's just you and Washington fans dreaming that :P
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Brown, Rozier, and a pick for Beal. A man can dream, right?
Gotta match salaries
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Brown, Rozier, and a pick for Beal. A man can dream, right?
Hopefully it's just you and Washington fans dreaming that :P
idk... money aside this is a deal I would consider.
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Trading Wall makes the most sense but his contract is rough. Very good player who likely won't age very well.
Porter is a neutral value piece due to his salary.
Oubre is a decent piece but I'm sure they'd like to keep him.
Beal is the guy they should want to keep but they may have to trade him if they want to change things up and nobody bites on Wall.
How about this --- Dennis Smith Jr., Wes Matthews, picks for Wall.
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Beal is a knockdown shooter we could need and is also a close friend of Tatum, it would make sense aside from salaries
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I'd really like Porter, but his salary is large so the team is clearly in the tax with him, and it makes matching salary difficult. That said I'd do Smart, Morris, Yabu, Bird, Wanamaker for him (once Smart can be traded in January).
Post-Trade 8 man playoff rotation and minutes
PG - Irving 36, Rozier 12
SG - Brown 36, Rozier 12
SF - Hayward 32, Tatum 16
PF - Tatum 18, Porter 30
C - Horford 34, Baynes 14
So total minutes
36 - Irving, Brown
34 - Tatum, Horford
32 - Hayward
30 - Porter
24 - Rozier
14 - Baynes
Now that is a team I think could truly compete for the title this year and for years to come. The rotation is much cleaner and Porter's elite shooting and defense would come in handy against the Warriors and top teams in the East. He adds a great dimension to the bench unit and is a great small ball 4 in the modern NBA.
I'd add some vet minimum type players, especially for the guard positions post trade, but I think that team could do quite well.
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How do we get Markieff?
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How do we get Markieff?
Fans hate him. I don't think he has much value. Yabusele or Boston 1st would be my maximum offer, but there's no reasonable salary match.
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How do we get Markieff?
It would be totally awesome to have both Morris twins off the bench. Those two plus Smart and Baynes would crush the spirits of opposing teams
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Bring back Uncle Jeff!!!
...I kid of course but they don't have many guys who could both be helpful and plausible to get. Wall and Mahinmi don't fit and aren't worth the $, Porter's too expensive, Beal would be great but would take a lot, screw getting Dwight or Oubre, and we already have all of Keef's DNA. Not really sure who else we could use. Satoransky if we move Rozier? Meh.
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A couple of trade possibilities:
To Washington: Josh Jackson, Ryan Anderson, De'Anthony Melton + '19 Milwaukee 1st (protected)
To Phoenix: John Wall, Markieff Morris
To Washington: Nikola Mirotic, Solomon Hill
To New Orleans: Otto Porter
To Washington: Courtney Lee, Lance Thomas, Frank Ntilikina, Mitchell Robinson
To New York: John Wall, Jason Smith, Kelly Oubre
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Beal is the only player who interests me, but even he comes with a lot of conditions. Whatever happened to that minutes limit he was supposedly facing for the rest of his career? And would he buy in on defense here?
If you like the answers to both of those questions, what would get it done? Is Brown + Smart + cap filler a good start? That's a heavy price, especially on defense. I know we're all down on Brown right now, but he's still a heck of a prospect. Even so, it might be worth it. Acquiring a 25-year-old All-star is supposed to hurt. And Beal's off-ball offensive game is something that we could use.
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Like many others have said would be interested in Beal but impossible to match salaries.
Thoughts on these for other teams:
1.Bucks trade: Bledsoe and DiVincenzo for Wall
2. Pistons trade Reggie Jackson and a 1st for Wall
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Brown, Rozier, and a pick for Beal. A man can dream, right?
Hopefully it's just you and Washington fans dreaming that :P
idk... money aside this is a deal I would consider.
Yeah I gotta say I would consider this too if it wasn't the Sacto pick in the deal. I wouldn't want to deal Brown right now at this moment, his value couldn't be lower, but Beal is a weapon.
Other than D and driving, Beal's pretty much got JB beat, and he's still young with upside:
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Beal at age 20 put up 17-3.7-3.3 with 1 steal on 42-40-78% splits, on 51% TS% with 4 WS.
Beal at age 23 put up 23-3-3.5 on 48-40-82% splits, at 60% TS% with 8.5 WS (!); at 24 his counting stat averages for assists + rebounds rose to 4.5 each with maintained scoring.
JB was a rookie at 20; at 21, he put up 14.5-5-1.6 with 1 steal on 46-40-65% splits with 56% TS% + 4.5 WS. In the playoffs, 18-5-1.4 with .8 steals on 47-39-64% splits, 56% TS%.
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Progress-wise, Beal made the leap at age 23, and his seasons at 20 + 22 were pretty similar. That is, he was very ahead of the curve even for a top prospect as a teen / 20 year old, then he increased his scoring but kinda plateaued for 2 years. At 23 he went off, but he also had 3 seasons with 2.4+ Def WS by age 24 (for reference, JB killed it last year with 3.2).
So Beal is a deadly spot up shooter who can get you 20-25 a game with a usage rate in the mid 20s. For reference, in the playoffs last year JB got us 18 a game on 56% TS% with a 24.6 usage rate. Beal at 23 got 23 a game on 60% TS% with a 26.5% usage rate. He can man a corner and be deadly and space the floor, he can create with the ball, is a capable passer, a solid rebounder and a nice defender for a SG. He may just be a better fit than JB to be an All Star caliber 3rd Guy with 2 all stars already in place (Kyrie, and either Tatum or Hayward); he reminds me of a shorter, more kinetic Klay Thompson with worse D (to fit the GSW model).
The issue is JB can't get worse, so you might be overpaying for Beal. The other thing is that Beal didn't grow much from 20 to 22 but emerged at age 23, and Jaylen is still only 22. To do a deal and feel good, we'd have to believe that Jaylen won't make that type of leap. I wouldn't want to be the one to make the decision, but I'd entertain JB+Terry+LAC pick + filler for Beal once we see some improvement from JB and our starting 5 logs more minutes.
CONCLUSION: I think we don't know what we have yet with our guys, but I also think there's a good chance JB is never as good as Beal got by age 23, and may never be as good with a Big 2-3 in place as Beal would be now. So I think you have to consider this when your top asset isn't at rock bottom value, because I don't think Rozier has much trade value, and IMO losing 1 of the LAC pick or a Boston pick in a deal for an All Star is fine.
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Like many others have said would be interested in Beal but impossible to match salaries.
Thoughts on these for other teams:
1.Bucks trade: Bledsoe and DiVincenzo for Wall
2. Pistons trade Reggie Jackson and a 1st for Wall
When Smart is eligible to be traded at full salary value, a deal like this wouldn't work?
Brown
Smart
Yabu
Clippers pick
for Beal and maybe a little sweetener?
I'd rather deal Terry than Smart but I know Smart is the $15m piece we need to match salary.
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Beal is a knockdown shooter we could need and is also a close friend of Tatum, it would make sense aside from salaries
If his salary could fit I'd definitely take Beal. He's only 25 years old.
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Like many others have said would be interested in Beal but impossible to match salaries.
Thoughts on these for other teams:
1.Bucks trade: Bledsoe and DiVincenzo for Wall
2. Pistons trade Reggie Jackson and a 1st for Wall
When Smart is eligible to be traded at full salary value, a deal like this wouldn't work?
Brown
Smart
Yabu
Clippers pick
for Beal and maybe a little sweetener?
I'd rather deal Terry than Smart but I know Smart is the $15m piece we need to match salary.
Smart is only at 11 million....I dont think it would be enough to match
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Like many others have said would be interested in Beal but impossible to match salaries.
Thoughts on these for other teams:
1.Bucks trade: Bledsoe and DiVincenzo for Wall
2. Pistons trade Reggie Jackson and a 1st for Wall
When Smart is eligible to be traded at full salary value, a deal like this wouldn't work?
Brown
Smart
Yabu
Clippers pick
for Beal and maybe a little sweetener?
I'd rather deal Terry than Smart but I know Smart is the $15m piece we need to match salary.
Smart is only at 11 million....I dont think it would be enough to match
Beal is 25 million Brown, Smart and Yabu are like 19 million... Yeah, not enough.... You have to throw Morris in there...
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I saw this on clutchpoints... Would be a good trade for both sides.... Scary...
The trade: Brandon Ingram, Josh Hart, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, and Michael Beasley for Bradley Beal of the Washington Wizards
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Like many others have said would be interested in Beal but impossible to match salaries.
Thoughts on these for other teams:
1.Bucks trade: Bledsoe and DiVincenzo for Wall
2. Pistons trade Reggie Jackson and a 1st for Wall
When Smart is eligible to be traded at full salary value, a deal like this wouldn't work?
Brown
Smart
Yabu
Clippers pick
for Beal and maybe a little sweetener?
I'd rather deal Terry than Smart but I know Smart is the $15m piece we need to match salary.
Smart is only at 11 million....I dont think it would be enough to match
Beal is 25 million Brown, Smart and Yabu are like 19 million... Yeah, not enough.... You have to throw Morris in there...
Does it have to be Morris? Cuz can't you be off by 10-20% in salary? We couldn't include Morris or Rozier in there without decimating the team. What about Wanamaker? Theis?
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Brown, Rozier, and a pick for Beal. A man can dream, right?
that's no dream. that's a nightmare overpayment.
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Like many others have said would be interested in Beal but impossible to match salaries.
Thoughts on these for other teams:
1.Bucks trade: Bledsoe and DiVincenzo for Wall
2. Pistons trade Reggie Jackson and a 1st for Wall
When Smart is eligible to be traded at full salary value, a deal like this wouldn't work?
Brown
Smart
Yabu
Clippers pick
for Beal and maybe a little sweetener?
I'd rather deal Terry than Smart but I know Smart is the $15m piece we need to match salary.
Smart is only at 11 million....I dont think it would be enough to match
Beal is 25 million Brown, Smart and Yabu are like 19 million... Yeah, not enough.... You have to throw Morris in there...
Does it have to be Morris? Cuz can't you be off by 10-20% in salary? We couldn't include Morris or Rozier in there without decimating the team. What about Wanamaker? Theis?
Yeah it would work with Rozier and Theis thrown in but that's Brown,Smart, Rozier, Theis... Really thins out the squad...
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Like many others have said would be interested in Beal but impossible to match salaries.
Thoughts on these for other teams:
1.Bucks trade: Bledsoe and DiVincenzo for Wall
2. Pistons trade Reggie Jackson and a 1st for Wall
When Smart is eligible to be traded at full salary value, a deal like this wouldn't work?
Brown
Smart
Yabu
Clippers pick
for Beal and maybe a little sweetener?
I'd rather deal Terry than Smart but I know Smart is the $15m piece we need to match salary.
Smart is only at 11 million....I dont think it would be enough to match
Beal is 25 million Brown, Smart and Yabu are like 19 million... Yeah, not enough.... You have to throw Morris in there...
Does it have to be Morris? Cuz can't you be off by 10-20% in salary? We couldn't include Morris or Rozier in there without decimating the team. What about Wanamaker? Theis?
We can be off by 25% plus $100k.
I don't see why Morris and Rozier would need to be included in this. I believe Brown/Smart/Yabu/either Ojeleye or Theis would get it done, purely from a salary cap standpoint. Whether Washington could clear the roster space to take that package (and, of course, whether either team would have any interest in the deal) is a separate hurdle, though.
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Like many others have said would be interested in Beal but impossible to match salaries.
Thoughts on these for other teams:
1.Bucks trade: Bledsoe and DiVincenzo for Wall
2. Pistons trade Reggie Jackson and a 1st for Wall
When Smart is eligible to be traded at full salary value, a deal like this wouldn't work?
Brown
Smart
Yabu
Clippers pick
for Beal and maybe a little sweetener?
I'd rather deal Terry than Smart but I know Smart is the $15m piece we need to match salary.
Smart is only at 11 million....I dont think it would be enough to match
Beal is 25 million Brown, Smart and Yabu are like 19 million... Yeah, not enough.... You have to throw Morris in there...
Does it have to be Morris? Cuz can't you be off by 10-20% in salary? We couldn't include Morris or Rozier in there without decimating the team. What about Wanamaker? Theis?
We can be off by 25% plus $100k.
I don't see why Morris and Rozier would need to be included in this. I believe Brown/Smart/Yabu/either Ojeleye or Theis would get it done, purely from a salary cap standpoint. Whether Washington could clear the roster space to take that package (and, of course, whether either team would have any interest in the deal) is a separate hurdle, though.
Thats correct but thats a lot of players.......but the morris idea is interesting.
Morris, Smart, Brown for Beal and Jeff Green(to replace morris production?)
https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/7132077
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Like many others have said would be interested in Beal but impossible to match salaries.
Thoughts on these for other teams:
1.Bucks trade: Bledsoe and DiVincenzo for Wall
2. Pistons trade Reggie Jackson and a 1st for Wall
When Smart is eligible to be traded at full salary value, a deal like this wouldn't work?
Brown
Smart
Yabu
Clippers pick
for Beal and maybe a little sweetener?
I'd rather deal Terry than Smart but I know Smart is the $15m piece we need to match salary.
Smart is only at 11 million....I dont think it would be enough to match
Beal is 25 million Brown, Smart and Yabu are like 19 million... Yeah, not enough.... You have to throw Morris in there...
Does it have to be Morris? Cuz can't you be off by 10-20% in salary? We couldn't include Morris or Rozier in there without decimating the team. What about Wanamaker? Theis?
We can be off by 25% plus $100k.
I don't see why Morris and Rozier would need to be included in this. I believe Brown/Smart/Yabu/either Ojeleye or Theis would get it done, purely from a salary cap standpoint. Whether Washington could clear the roster space to take that package (and, of course, whether either team would have any interest in the deal) is a separate hurdle, though.
Yeah, I prefer Theis but he's gone after this year and RW3 should replace him. Semi is pretty bad, but he's locked up for 2 more years after this one for dirt cheap, so I'd do either.
Brown (centerpiece)
Smart (positive asset and needed for salary matching)
Yabu (neutral asset, unproven player with upside)
Semi or Theis
for Beal, 2nd rounder.
I wouldn't want to include a pick since we're including Smart and not Rozier, but I still might.
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No one has mentioned Dwight Howard? He could be the 14 year vet that Kyrie is looking for.
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I imagine the cost for Beal would be Jaylen, Smart, Rozier, Mook just to make salaries match. That's too high for me.
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No one has mentioned Dwight Howard? He could be the 14 year vet that Kyrie is looking for.
Can we swap Horford for Dwight? It seems to have worked out really well for the Hawks.
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I know we would never do it, but Hayward for Beal works straight up and even gets us under the luxury tax.
I really wish Hayward had never been injured. It was such an exciting time when he signed with us. We then lost a full year of production on a max contract and he is still nowhere near back to normal. It really sucks for a team that was so responsible in handling salaries and had such success with the draft (and trading for those picks).
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No one has mentioned Dwight Howard? He could be the 14 year vet that Kyrie is looking for.
Would Horford be comfortable playing with Dwight?
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I really wish Hayward had never been injured. It was such an exciting time when he signed with us. We then lost a full year of production on a max contract and he is still nowhere near back to normal. It really sucks for a team that was so responsible in handling salaries and had such success with the draft (and trading for those picks).
I'm sure he's not thrilled about getting injured and going through two surgeries either ::)
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just read wizards had a bad time at practice..alot of verbal lanquage
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Trade Rozier for Wall
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Brown, Rozier, and a pick for Beal. A man can dream, right?
Hopefully it's just you and Washington fans dreaming that :P
I'd do that in a heartbeat, but we can't match salaries.
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I saw this on clutchpoints... Would be a good trade for both sides.... Scary...
The trade: Brandon Ingram, Josh Hart, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, and Michael Beasley for Bradley Beal of the Washington Wizards
KCP would have to agree to the deal, since he'd lose his Early-Bird Rights in the process. I think that'd be a hard sell for him
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I don't get the folks that propose trades to make our team enemies better....
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I don't get the folks that propose trades to make our team enemies better....
We need good practice.
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No one has mentioned Dwight Howard? He could be the 14 year vet that Kyrie is looking for.
Can we swap Horford for Dwight? It seems to have worked out really well for the Hawks.
Lol. Dwight is such a waste of talent
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The Washington Wizards had a volatile practice within recent days, with verbal altercations among players and an exasperated Bradley Beal saying toward team officials: "I've been dealing with this for seven years."
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1064634151884779520
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Trading Wall makes the most sense but his contract is rough. Very good player who likely won't age very well.
Porter is a neutral value piece due to his salary.
Oubre is a decent piece but I'm sure they'd like to keep him.
Beal is the guy they should want to keep but they may have to trade him if they want to change things up and nobody bites on Wall.
How about this --- Dennis Smith Jr., Wes Matthews, picks for Wall.
I wonder how Wall would deal with being the #2 guy in the long run, considering how good Doncic has looked. Feel like he's the kind of guy who it would really mess with
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I really wish Hayward had never been injured. It was such an exciting time when he signed with us. We then lost a full year of production on a max contract and he is still nowhere near back to normal. It really sucks for a team that was so responsible in handling salaries and had such success with the draft (and trading for those picks).
I'm sure he's not thrilled about getting injured and going through two surgeries either ::)
I know what I said was obvious, but the stakes were much higher for us. We were a legitimate contender last year with a healthy roster and clearly we were looking to be one this year. Danny made a series of genius moves to propel us to the highest echelon in the NBA and this one injury may have screwed up the entire process (no, not that process).
Any season-ending injury to a max player is a blow to a team, but if say Kemba Walker were out for the year, the repercussions to the Hornets wouldn't have been the same. They would just suck a little more.
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The Wizards should trade Wall for any reasonable offer. When his big, new contract kicks in next season, it is going to be a lot harder to trade him.
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The Wizards fined All-Star John Wall for unloading a verbal barrage onto coach Scott Brooks in a recent practice. After Wall and his teammates had been challenged to raise intensity in that session, Wall fired back with "F--- you," to Brooks. Story soon.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1064672876073230337?s=21
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The Wizards fined All-Star John Wall for unloading a verbal barrage onto coach Scott Brooks in a recent practice. After Wall and his teammates had been challenged to raise intensity in that session, Wall fired back with "F--- you," to Brooks. Story soon.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1064672876073230337?s=21
He's such a punk
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The Wizards fined All-Star John Wall for unloading a verbal barrage onto coach Scott Brooks in a recent practice. After Wall and his teammates had been challenged to raise intensity in that session, Wall fired back with "F--- you," to Brooks. Story soon.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1064672876073230337?s=21
He's such a punk
He is, but Scott Brooks is a terrible coach. He ruined OKC and he has ruined Wash.
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The Wizards fined All-Star John Wall for unloading a verbal barrage onto coach Scott Brooks in a recent practice. After Wall and his teammates had been challenged to raise intensity in that session, Wall fired back with "F--- you," to Brooks. Story soon.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1064672876073230337?s=21
He's such a punk
He is, but Scott Brooks is a terrible coach. He ruined OKC and he has ruined Wash.
Match made in heaven
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The Wizards fined All-Star John Wall for unloading a verbal barrage onto coach Scott Brooks in a recent practice. After Wall and his teammates had been challenged to raise intensity in that session, Wall fired back with "F--- you," to Brooks. Story soon.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1064672876073230337?s=21
He's such a punk
He is, but Scott Brooks is a terrible coach. He ruined OKC and he has ruined Wash.
It's amazing he isn't fired yet. Third year of 5yr/35M deal. 21M to buy him out according to https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/wizards/five-changes-head-coach-scott-brooks-could-make-shake-things-wizards
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Wizards center Dwight Howard will be re-evaluated in 2-3 months after undergoing an L4-L5 lumbar microdiscectomy on Friday, per team which said "the disc herniation was causing severe nerve irritation and gluteal pain."
https://twitter.com/jeffzillgitt/status/1068577362814664704?s=21
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There are maybe 3 teams in the league who would entertain that salary for Wall.
How about:
Rozier, Robin Lopez to WASH
Wall to CHI
CHI 2020 1st rounder to BOS
I wouldn't touch Wall with a 10-foot pole, but the corpse of Lopez and a future 1st is a pretty cheap price for a team that can afford his salary (big market, $50M+ cap room this summer, Carter & Markannen & LaVine under contract for 3 more years).
Washington gets a look at Rozier and the huge salary dump.
Boston gets another 1st rounder asset.
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There are maybe 3 teams in the league who would entertain that salary for Wall.
How about:
Rozier, Robin Lopez to WASH
Wall to CHI
CHI 2020 1st rounder to BOS
I wouldn't touch Wall with a 10-foot pole, but the corpse of Lopez and a future 1st is a pretty cheap price for a team that can afford his salary (big market, $50M+ cap room this summer, Carter & Markannen & LaVine under contract for 3 more years).
Washington gets a look at Rozier and the huge salary dump.
Boston gets another 1st rounder asset.
i always thought Miami might try. I know wall trains in Miami over the summer. Also Miami always seems desperate for a star, and they have a lot of random pieces that don’t fit perfect together right now so they can definitely sell off some assets
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There are maybe 3 teams in the league who would entertain that salary for Wall.
How about:
Rozier, Robin Lopez to WASH
Wall to CHI
CHI 2020 1st rounder to BOS
I wouldn't touch Wall with a 10-foot pole, but the corpse of Lopez and a future 1st is a pretty cheap price for a team that can afford his salary (big market, $50M+ cap room this summer, Carter & Markannen & LaVine under contract for 3 more years).
Washington gets a look at Rozier and the huge salary dump.
Boston gets another 1st rounder asset.
This is not bad, but unfortunately, I think an unprotected first from Chicago is a too much for Rozier. Maybe with a top 20 protection that, after a few years, reverts to a 2nd rounder.
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and just like that the Wizards are within a half of game of playoff position and just a game out of the 7th spot with both Orlando and Charlotte fading quickly.
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As for the Wizards fire-sale, if Love comes back soon, maybe Love for Porter would make sense for both teams when Love can be traded in January.
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There are maybe 3 teams in the league who would entertain that salary for Wall.
How about:
Rozier, Robin Lopez to WASH
Wall to CHI
CHI 2020 1st rounder to BOS
I wouldn't touch Wall with a 10-foot pole, but the corpse of Lopez and a future 1st is a pretty cheap price for a team that can afford his salary (big market, $50M+ cap room this summer, Carter & Markannen & LaVine under contract for 3 more years).
Washington gets a look at Rozier and the huge salary dump.
Boston gets another 1st rounder asset.
This is not bad, but unfortunately, I think an unprotected first from Chicago is a too much for Rozier. Maybe with a top 20 protection that, after a few years, reverts to a 2nd rounder.
don't think of it as an unprotected pick for Rozier but for Wall because that's who they're getting. Wash may want more than Rozier and Lopez though. probably one of the C's firsts (would put protections on it like best non-lottery pick perhaps)
Having said that, I wouldn't make the deal because we're more in need of a back up PG/SG off the bench than yet another draft pick.
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There are maybe 3 teams in the league who would entertain that salary for Wall.
How about:
Rozier, Robin Lopez to WASH
Wall to CHI
CHI 2020 1st rounder to BOS
I wouldn't touch Wall with a 10-foot pole, but the corpse of Lopez and a future 1st is a pretty cheap price for a team that can afford his salary (big market, $50M+ cap room this summer, Carter & Markannen & LaVine under contract for 3 more years).
Washington gets a look at Rozier and the huge salary dump.
Boston gets another 1st rounder asset.
i always thought Miami might try. I know wall trains in Miami over the summer. Also Miami always seems desperate for a star, and they have a lot of random pieces that don’t fit perfect together right now so they can definitely sell off some assets
Makes sense. They lost out on the Butler sweepstakes.
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There are maybe 3 teams in the league who would entertain that salary for Wall.
How about:
Rozier, Robin Lopez to WASH
Wall to CHI
CHI 2020 1st rounder to BOS
I wouldn't touch Wall with a 10-foot pole, but the corpse of Lopez and a future 1st is a pretty cheap price for a team that can afford his salary (big market, $50M+ cap room this summer, Carter & Markannen & LaVine under contract for 3 more years).
Washington gets a look at Rozier and the huge salary dump.
Boston gets another 1st rounder asset.
How about Rozier for Bobby Portis to get this all started. I know Portis is hurt but I understand he has been scrimmaging with the G-League so should be back soon. There has been a lot of love for Portis in the past. Portis would potentially start for us at PF (he is listed as 6'-11"). With the emergence of Markannen, Chicago may see Portis as expendable. Or they might decide to sit tight with Rozier as they need a PG. Either way, isn't Portis just what we need?
From there, yeah, maybe Rozier, Lopez and probably some picks might get them Wall.
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There are maybe 3 teams in the league who would entertain that salary for Wall.
How about:
Rozier, Robin Lopez to WASH
Wall to CHI
CHI 2020 1st rounder to BOS
I wouldn't touch Wall with a 10-foot pole, but the corpse of Lopez and a future 1st is a pretty cheap price for a team that can afford his salary (big market, $50M+ cap room this summer, Carter & Markannen & LaVine under contract for 3 more years).
Washington gets a look at Rozier and the huge salary dump.
Boston gets another 1st rounder asset.
How about Rozier for Bobby Portis to get this all started. I know Portis is hurt but I understand he has been scrimmaging with the G-League so should be back soon. There has been a lot of love for Portis in the past. Portis would potentially start for us at PF (he is listed as 6'-11"). With the emergence of Markannen, Chicago may see Portis as expendable. Or they might decide to sit tight with Rozier as they need a PG. Either way, isn't Portis just what we need?
From there, yeah, maybe Rozier, Lopez and probably some picks might get them Wall.
Isn't Portis like a Morris with less shooting, more rebounding, and possibly send teammates to the injured list?
Nah. Right direction, oddly enough, but need more of a pick setter other than our one legit C.
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I posted this in another thread earlier and got no conversation on it. Thoughts?
Rather than starting a new thread, I thought I put my trade idea here. I was working on a way to get Bradley Beal on the Thunder for funsies. I don't think there is any way the Thunder would give up Adams, but it didn't seem like the Wizards would want Schroeder, Roberson, and Grant. The Thunder have an almost 11 million dollar exception to use to take on a bad contract to make a deal work. I think the trade would have to include a third team. Here's what I came up with:
Thunder trade: Diallo, Schroeder, Roberson, 8.6 million trade exemption, 2022 1st
Thunder receive: Beal, Morris
This gives the Thunder a perfect complimentary piece to Westbrook, Adams, and George and makes them contenders for a championship this year. Morris is also a good get on an expiring contract that can start for them.
Pelicans trade: Hill, Randle
Pelicans receive: Schroeder, Roberson
Pelicans continue to search for pieces to put around Anthony Davis. This isn't a flashy move, but it is low cost. Flipping Randle and Hill into two players that could actually share the court in crunch time with Davis, Mirotic, and Holliday is helpful. Roberson's lack of shooting is covered up by Mirotic and Davis' shooting, but it gives the Pelicans the defensive stopper on the wing they've always needed. Schroeder is a secondary ball-handler that excels in the pick-and-roll (hello Anthony Davis).
Wizards trade: Beal, Morris
Wizards receive: Hill, Randle, Diallo, 8.6 million trade exemption, Thunder's 2022 1st
The first benefit to this deal is that it gets the Wizards out of the luxury tax (they were 11 million into the luxury tax!!!). Randle gives the Wizards a productive inside player, which they have lacked severely this year. He brings the energy that could change the culture a bit. Hill is a rotation player with only one year left on his contract after this one. Diallo is a good prospect that could give you leverage in negotiations with Oubre, or let you move on completely from Oubre's inconsistent play. The Thunder's 2022 draft pick might actually be really good depending on how Westbrook's game ages.
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I posted this in another thread earlier and got no conversation on it. Thoughts?
Rather than starting a new thread, I thought I put my trade idea here. I was working on a way to get Bradley Beal on the Thunder for funsies. I don't think there is any way the Thunder would give up Adams, but it didn't seem like the Wizards would want Schroeder, Roberson, and Grant. The Thunder have an almost 11 million dollar exception to use to take on a bad contract to make a deal work. I think the trade would have to include a third team. Here's what I came up with:
Thunder trade: Diallo, Schroeder, Roberson, 8.6 million trade exemption, 2022 1st
Thunder receive: Beal, Morris
This gives the Thunder a perfect complimentary piece to Westbrook, Adams, and George and makes them contenders for a championship this year. Morris is also a good get on an expiring contract that can start for them.
Pelicans trade: Hill, Randle
Pelicans receive: Schroeder, Roberson
Pelicans continue to search for pieces to put around Anthony Davis. This isn't a flashy move, but it is low cost. Flipping Randle and Hill into two players that could actually share the court in crunch time with Davis, Mirotic, and Holliday is helpful. Roberson's lack of shooting is covered up by Mirotic and Davis' shooting, but it gives the Pelicans the defensive stopper on the wing they've always needed. Schroeder is a secondary ball-handler that excels in the pick-and-roll (hello Anthony Davis).
Wizards trade: Beal, Morris
Wizards receive: Hill, Randle, Diallo, 8.6 million trade exemption, Thunder's 2022 1st
The first benefit to this deal is that it gets the Wizards out of the luxury tax (they were 11 million into the luxury tax!!!). Randle gives the Wizards a productive inside player, which they have lacked severely this year. He brings the energy that could change the culture a bit. Hill is a rotation player with only one year left on his contract after this one. Diallo is a good prospect that could give you leverage in negotiations with Oubre, or let you move on completely from Oubre's inconsistent play. The Thunder's 2022 draft pick might actually be really good depending on how Westbrook's game ages.
Not bad trade, but out of all 3, Beal is the most valuable, and I have to believe he could garner more than one expiring contract, bottom tier prospect in Diallo, and not bad big in Randle/questionable 1st round pick. (Let's say Westbrook doesn't age well, even then, is it a lottery pick?)
If I'm the Wizards, I would clearly want something more than just an okay prospect, possible late first pick, and expiring contract/TE.
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I posted this in another thread earlier and got no conversation on it. Thoughts?
Rather than starting a new thread, I thought I put my trade idea here. I was working on a way to get Bradley Beal on the Thunder for funsies. I don't think there is any way the Thunder would give up Adams, but it didn't seem like the Wizards would want Schroeder, Roberson, and Grant. The Thunder have an almost 11 million dollar exception to use to take on a bad contract to make a deal work. I think the trade would have to include a third team. Here's what I came up with:
Thunder trade: Diallo, Schroeder, Roberson, 8.6 million trade exemption, 2022 1st
Thunder receive: Beal, Morris
This gives the Thunder a perfect complimentary piece to Westbrook, Adams, and George and makes them contenders for a championship this year. Morris is also a good get on an expiring contract that can start for them.
Pelicans trade: Hill, Randle
Pelicans receive: Schroeder, Roberson
Pelicans continue to search for pieces to put around Anthony Davis. This isn't a flashy move, but it is low cost. Flipping Randle and Hill into two players that could actually share the court in crunch time with Davis, Mirotic, and Holliday is helpful. Roberson's lack of shooting is covered up by Mirotic and Davis' shooting, but it gives the Pelicans the defensive stopper on the wing they've always needed. Schroeder is a secondary ball-handler that excels in the pick-and-roll (hello Anthony Davis).
Wizards trade: Beal, Morris
Wizards receive: Hill, Randle, Diallo, 8.6 million trade exemption, Thunder's 2022 1st
The first benefit to this deal is that it gets the Wizards out of the luxury tax (they were 11 million into the luxury tax!!!). Randle gives the Wizards a productive inside player, which they have lacked severely this year. He brings the energy that could change the culture a bit. Hill is a rotation player with only one year left on his contract after this one. Diallo is a good prospect that could give you leverage in negotiations with Oubre, or let you move on completely from Oubre's inconsistent play. The Thunder's 2022 draft pick might actually be really good depending on how Westbrook's game ages.
Not bad trade, but out of all 3, Beal is the most valuable, and I have to believe he could garner more than one expiring contract, bottom tier prospect in Diallo, and not bad big in Randle/questionable 1st round pick. (Let's say Westbrook doesn't age well, even then, is it a lottery pick?)
If I'm the Wizards, I would clearly want something more than just an okay prospect, possible late first pick, and expiring contract/TE.
Good thoughts and I probably agree that someone could offer more for Beal. However, few teams offer the ability for Washington to get out of the luxury tax. It really depends if the owner wants to do that with his non-contender as they re-build or re-gear around Wall. Saving 10 million in salary and way more in a luxury bill is worth 1-2 firsts as well according to the recent market.
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I posted this in another thread earlier and got no conversation on it. Thoughts?
Rather than starting a new thread, I thought I put my trade idea here. I was working on a way to get Bradley Beal on the Thunder for funsies. I don't think there is any way the Thunder would give up Adams, but it didn't seem like the Wizards would want Schroeder, Roberson, and Grant. The Thunder have an almost 11 million dollar exception to use to take on a bad contract to make a deal work. I think the trade would have to include a third team. Here's what I came up with:
Thunder trade: Diallo, Schroeder, Roberson, 8.6 million trade exemption, 2022 1st
Thunder receive: Beal, Morris
This gives the Thunder a perfect complimentary piece to Westbrook, Adams, and George and makes them contenders for a championship this year. Morris is also a good get on an expiring contract that can start for them.
Pelicans trade: Hill, Randle
Pelicans receive: Schroeder, Roberson
Pelicans continue to search for pieces to put around Anthony Davis. This isn't a flashy move, but it is low cost. Flipping Randle and Hill into two players that could actually share the court in crunch time with Davis, Mirotic, and Holliday is helpful. Roberson's lack of shooting is covered up by Mirotic and Davis' shooting, but it gives the Pelicans the defensive stopper on the wing they've always needed. Schroeder is a secondary ball-handler that excels in the pick-and-roll (hello Anthony Davis).
Wizards trade: Beal, Morris
Wizards receive: Hill, Randle, Diallo, 8.6 million trade exemption, Thunder's 2022 1st
The first benefit to this deal is that it gets the Wizards out of the luxury tax (they were 11 million into the luxury tax!!!). Randle gives the Wizards a productive inside player, which they have lacked severely this year. He brings the energy that could change the culture a bit. Hill is a rotation player with only one year left on his contract after this one. Diallo is a good prospect that could give you leverage in negotiations with Oubre, or let you move on completely from Oubre's inconsistent play. The Thunder's 2022 draft pick might actually be really good depending on how Westbrook's game ages.
Not bad trade, but out of all 3, Beal is the most valuable, and I have to believe he could garner more than one expiring contract, bottom tier prospect in Diallo, and not bad big in Randle/questionable 1st round pick. (Let's say Westbrook doesn't age well, even then, is it a lottery pick?)
If I'm the Wizards, I would clearly want something more than just an okay prospect, possible late first pick, and expiring contract/TE.
Good thoughts and I probably agree that someone could offer more for Beal. However, few teams offer the ability for Washington to get out of the luxury tax. It really depends if the owner wants to do that with his non-contender as they re-build or re-gear around Wall. Saving 10 million in salary and way more in a luxury bill is worth 1-2 firsts as well according to the recent market.
Generally cap space shouldn't be a issue for smart and intelligent franchises but the Wizards GM and owner have shown neither of the sort.
DC is a passionate sports team, if they completely rebuild or retool, people will still come. But there comes a breaking point and honestly from what my friends tell me, the Wizards fans just want a complete tear down or reconstruction. This team isnt contending and everyone from Northern Virginia to Baltimore and DC knows that.
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I posted this in another thread earlier and got no conversation on it. Thoughts?
Rather than starting a new thread, I thought I put my trade idea here. I was working on a way to get Bradley Beal on the Thunder for funsies. I don't think there is any way the Thunder would give up Adams, but it didn't seem like the Wizards would want Schroeder, Roberson, and Grant. The Thunder have an almost 11 million dollar exception to use to take on a bad contract to make a deal work. I think the trade would have to include a third team. Here's what I came up with:
Thunder trade: Diallo, Schroeder, Roberson, 8.6 million trade exemption, 2022 1st
Thunder receive: Beal, Morris
This gives the Thunder a perfect complimentary piece to Westbrook, Adams, and George and makes them contenders for a championship this year. Morris is also a good get on an expiring contract that can start for them.
Pelicans trade: Hill, Randle
Pelicans receive: Schroeder, Roberson
Pelicans continue to search for pieces to put around Anthony Davis. This isn't a flashy move, but it is low cost. Flipping Randle and Hill into two players that could actually share the court in crunch time with Davis, Mirotic, and Holliday is helpful. Roberson's lack of shooting is covered up by Mirotic and Davis' shooting, but it gives the Pelicans the defensive stopper on the wing they've always needed. Schroeder is a secondary ball-handler that excels in the pick-and-roll (hello Anthony Davis).
Wizards trade: Beal, Morris
Wizards receive: Hill, Randle, Diallo, 8.6 million trade exemption, Thunder's 2022 1st
The first benefit to this deal is that it gets the Wizards out of the luxury tax (they were 11 million into the luxury tax!!!). Randle gives the Wizards a productive inside player, which they have lacked severely this year. He brings the energy that could change the culture a bit. Hill is a rotation player with only one year left on his contract after this one. Diallo is a good prospect that could give you leverage in negotiations with Oubre, or let you move on completely from Oubre's inconsistent play. The Thunder's 2022 draft pick might actually be really good depending on how Westbrook's game ages.
Not bad trade, but out of all 3, Beal is the most valuable, and I have to believe he could garner more than one expiring contract, bottom tier prospect in Diallo, and not bad big in Randle/questionable 1st round pick. (Let's say Westbrook doesn't age well, even then, is it a lottery pick?)
If I'm the Wizards, I would clearly want something more than just an okay prospect, possible late first pick, and expiring contract/TE.
Good thoughts and I probably agree that someone could offer more for Beal. However, few teams offer the ability for Washington to get out of the luxury tax. It really depends if the owner wants to do that with his non-contender as they re-build or re-gear around Wall. Saving 10 million in salary and way more in a luxury bill is worth 1-2 firsts as well according to the recent market.
Generally cap space shouldn't be a issue for smart and intelligent franchises but the Wizards GM and owner have shown neither of the sort.
DC is a passionate sports team, if they completely rebuild or retool, people will still come. But there comes a breaking point and honestly from what my friends tell me, the Wizards fans just want a complete tear down or reconstruction. This team isnt contending and everyone from Northern Virginia to Baltimore and DC knows that.
If they want to get out of the luxury tax this season, they have three options: trade with the Kings into their cap space, trade with the Nuggets into one of their two exemptions, or trade with the Thunder into their exemption.
Any other trade would include salary coming back, which doesn't get them out of the luxury tax.
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They should be doing whatever it takes to dump Wall before his extension kicks in.
Throw a pick in if you have to.
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They should be doing whatever it takes to dump Wall before his extension kicks in.
Throw a pick in if you have to.
That's about how I see it.
Beal is not a problem and Porter is just a collateral move.
Wall is the anvil of this franchise, firstly, they were building on him, and now he is pulling them down. To move on they need to move him.
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As time passes I would like to see Wall in NY.
Seems somehow fitting.
Wall + 1st for Kanter, something along those lines.
We would be singing;
Afterall he's just another Knick in the Wall.
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John Wall is OUT and will see a specialist for his left heel bone spur. Markieff Morris is OUT with neck stiffness.
https://twitter.com/chasehughesnbcs/status/1078779034228662273?s=21
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wizards are donezo
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It's too bad there isn't an easy way to match salary in a trade for Markieff. Would be fun to put him and his brother together again.
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Injury Update: Keef Morris has been diagnosed with transient cervical neuropraxia.
He will be limited to non-contact basketball activities for the next 6 weeks, after which he is expected to be cleared to return to full basketball activities.
twitter link (https://twitter.com/washwizards/status/1080879042751070208?s=21)
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Wizards owner Ted Leonsis addressed Washington's standing in the Eastern Conference on Thursday while speaking to reporters in London.
"We will never, ever tank," Leonsis said before the Wizards face the Knicks at The O2 in London. "We're not letting anybody off the hook, we got to make the playoffs."
Washington enters Thursday's matchup 11th in the East at 18–26. The Wizards have reached the postseason in four of the last five seasons.
Sports Illustrated (https://www.si.com/nba/2019/01/17/washington-wizards-ted-leonsis-owner-tanking-nba-eastern-conference)
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It's too bad there isn't an easy way to match salary in a trade for Markieff. Would be fun to put him and his brother together again.
yup ! that would be cool
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This is my Beal trade idea from my podcast with KG LIving Legend: https://youtu.be/WH2tkjqxa6c
Celtic fans hate it. Wizard fans hate it. Maybe it's plausible.
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It's too bad there isn't an easy way to match salary in a trade for Markieff. Would be fun to put him and his brother together again.
Were they that fun when they played together? I’d rather not have both of them.
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It's too bad there isn't an easy way to match salary in a trade for Markieff. Would be fun to put him and his brother together again.
Hayward + Bird for Porter + Markieff
We could even expand this to include let's say Yabu + Troy Brown Jr.(#15 last June)
The way I see it, we have far too many alphas on this team. We need players who love to play off the ball. Porter is one of the best off-ball players around the league. He makes his teammates better on both sides of the ball: very good shooter (= better spacing), plus he can defend multiple positions. His contract isn't looking very good, but let's face it, neither does Hayward's.
Hopefully we 'll then re-sign both Marcus and Markieff on the cheap, the way the Suns did back in 2014. 8)
(don't think we'll trade Hayward, just saying)
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This is my Beal trade idea from my podcast with KG LIving Legend: https://youtu.be/WH2tkjqxa6c
Celtic fans hate it. Wizard fans hate it. Maybe it's plausible.
Proposing a 5 for 1 trade isn't plausible. Wizards would have to cut 4 players first to free up the roster spots before the trade could happen. Those players salaries would count against the Wizards so the trade would probably increase the Wizards luxury tax bill.
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This is my Beal trade idea from my podcast with KG LIving Legend: https://youtu.be/WH2tkjqxa6c
Celtic fans hate it. Wizard fans hate it. Maybe it's plausible.
Proposing a 5 for 1 trade isn't plausible. Wizards would have to cut 4 players first to free up the roster spots before the trade could happen. Those players salaries would count against the Wizards so the trade would probably increase the Wizards luxury tax bill.
Agreed... so such a deal probably involves Wizards cutting Yabu, buying out Baynes and maybe finding a 3rd team for Morris/Rozier that would send back a pick.
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This is my Beal trade idea from my podcast with KG LIving Legend: https://youtu.be/WH2tkjqxa6c
Celtic fans hate it. Wizard fans hate it. Maybe it's plausible.
Proposing a 5 for 1 trade isn't plausible. Wizards would have to cut 4 players first to free up the roster spots before the trade could happen. Those players salaries would count against the Wizards so the trade would probably increase the Wizards luxury tax bill.
Agreed... so such a deal probably involves Wizards cutting Yabu, buying out Baynes and maybe finding a 3rd team for Morris/Rozier that would send back a pick.
The Wizards would have to cut players on their current roster before the trade can be made. They can't do the trade and then cut the players. Teams aren't allowed to exceed 15 players plus the two 2-way players.
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This is my Beal trade idea from my podcast with KG LIving Legend: https://youtu.be/WH2tkjqxa6c
Celtic fans hate it. Wizard fans hate it. Maybe it's plausible.
Proposing a 5 for 1 trade isn't plausible. Wizards would have to cut 4 players first to free up the roster spots before the trade could happen. Those players salaries would count against the Wizards so the trade would probably increase the Wizards luxury tax bill.
Agreed... so such a deal probably involves Wizards cutting Yabu, buying out Baynes and maybe finding a 3rd team for Morris/Rozier that would send back a pick.
The Wizards would have to cut players on their current roster before the trade can be made. They can't do the trade and then cut the players. Teams aren't allowed to exceed 15 players plus the two 2-way players.
Good call. Similar premise, though... additional teams could be looped in who might have interest in yabu/rozier/morris/baynes. Key thing would be them getting Brown. Also, I think Washington already has at least 1 open roster spot.
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This is my Beal trade idea from my podcast with KG LIving Legend: https://youtu.be/WH2tkjqxa6c
Celtic fans hate it. Wizard fans hate it. Maybe it's plausible.
Proposing a 5 for 1 trade isn't plausible. Wizards would have to cut 4 players first to free up the roster spots before the trade could happen. Those players salaries would count against the Wizards so the trade would probably increase the Wizards luxury tax bill.
Agreed... so such a deal probably involves Wizards cutting Yabu, buying out Baynes and maybe finding a 3rd team for Morris/Rozier that would send back a pick.
The Wizards would have to cut players on their current roster before the trade can be made. They can't do the trade and then cut the players. Teams aren't allowed to exceed 15 players plus the two 2-way players.
Good call. Similar premise, though... additional teams could be looped in who might have interest in yabu/rozier/morris/baynes. Key thing would be them getting Brown. Also, I think Washington already has at least 1 open roster spot.
They may have one spot but I think teams are required to carry 14. Bringing in a 3rd team is possible but adds complications. What are the Wizards getting out of the deal Brown and tax relief? That's not nearly enough for an all-star that is just starting his prime.
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This is my Beal trade idea from my podcast with KG LIving Legend: https://youtu.be/WH2tkjqxa6c
Celtic fans hate it. Wizard fans hate it. Maybe it's plausible.
Proposing a 5 for 1 trade isn't plausible. Wizards would have to cut 4 players first to free up the roster spots before the trade could happen. Those players salaries would count against the Wizards so the trade would probably increase the Wizards luxury tax bill.
Agreed... so such a deal probably involves Wizards cutting Yabu, buying out Baynes and maybe finding a 3rd team for Morris/Rozier that would send back a pick.
The Wizards would have to cut players on their current roster before the trade can be made. They can't do the trade and then cut the players. Teams aren't allowed to exceed 15 players plus the two 2-way players.
Good call. Similar premise, though... additional teams could be looped in who might have interest in yabu/rozier/morris/baynes. Key thing would be them getting Brown. Also, I think Washington already has at least 1 open roster spot.
It seems like it would take a lot to go right for it to occur, especially on Washington's behalf. Makes it seem less likely to me, but a back-court of Irving and Beal would challenge GSW for best in the league
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This is my Beal trade idea from my podcast with KG LIving Legend: https://youtu.be/WH2tkjqxa6c
Celtic fans hate it. Wizard fans hate it. Maybe it's plausible.
Proposing a 5 for 1 trade isn't plausible. Wizards would have to cut 4 players first to free up the roster spots before the trade could happen. Those players salaries would count against the Wizards so the trade would probably increase the Wizards luxury tax bill.
Agreed... so such a deal probably involves Wizards cutting Yabu, buying out Baynes and maybe finding a 3rd team for Morris/Rozier that would send back a pick.
The Beal trade I came up with is Morris, Smart, Rozier, and Bird (salary filler) for Beal. Would probably need to include a 3rd team as the Wiz couldn’t take on 4 players. We would probably need to include one our prized picks as well. Comparable trade to the one that netted us Irving ( especially considering IT’s injury).
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This is my Beal trade idea from my podcast with KG LIving Legend: https://youtu.be/WH2tkjqxa6c
Celtic fans hate it. Wizard fans hate it. Maybe it's plausible.
Proposing a 5 for 1 trade isn't plausible. Wizards would have to cut 4 players first to free up the roster spots before the trade could happen. Those players salaries would count against the Wizards so the trade would probably increase the Wizards luxury tax bill.
Agreed... so such a deal probably involves Wizards cutting Yabu, buying out Baynes and maybe finding a 3rd team for Morris/Rozier that would send back a pick.
The Beal trade I came up with is Morris, Smart, Rozier, and Bird (salary filler) for Beal. Would probably need to include a 3rd team as the Wiz couldn’t take on 4 players. We would probably need to include one our prized picks as well (try with the Clippers pick if not Kings pick) Comparable trade to the one that netted us Irving ( especially considering IT’s injury).
Just to add to my previous post (clarify to I probably have Rozier going to a 3rd team with another asset going to the Wizards) the Wizards were a 4th seed 2 years ago with Wall and Beal leading the way. Last year with Wall missing half the season they still managed to make the playoffs. Beal has seemed to take his game up a notch this year at age 25. He would be a great sidekick to Irving in the backcourt as they enter their prime (kind of like Curry-Thompson).
Maybe not at this trade deadline since Beal still has 2 1/2 years left, but a some point the Wizards might look to trade him if they sense he won’t stay long term.