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Title: Tracking Pro Players on 'Da Claws: Bill Walker
Post by: indeedproceed on December 03, 2009, 11:33:36 AM
Post game observations and such about Bill Walker's D-League Stint in this thread
Title: Re: Tracking Pro Players on 'Da Claws: Bill Walker
Post by: xmuscularghandix on December 03, 2009, 11:41:43 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-9K9_wnbyA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifL_AfYL0go

It looks like Walker's really trying to add range to his game. I've also noticed that he's looking to finish soft inside, not looking for the highlight dunk EVERY time.
Title: Red Claws/Bill Walker tracking thread
Post by: lon3lytoaster on December 03, 2009, 11:50:44 AM
Maine Red Claws
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y133/GrimAbhoration/Maine_Red_Claws_4.gif)
Affiliated with the Celtics and Charlotte Bobcats

Current assignees:

Bill Walker, Celtics
(http://www.nba.com/media/act_bill_walker.jpg)
Stats:

PPG 22.0
RPG 9.5
APG 1.0
FG% .483

Alexis Ajinca, Bobcats
(http://www.nba.com/dleague/siouxfalls/photos/ajinca_295_090928.jpg)
No games played yet

Results/scores
@Sioux Falls, Loss 95-112
@Dakota, Win 107-97
Next Game: Friday the 4th, Versus Springfield in Portland

Title: Re: Tracking Pro Players on 'Da Claws: Bill Walker
Post by: lon3lytoaster on December 03, 2009, 11:53:03 AM
Well that's lame. Just made this thread.
Title: Re: Red Claws/Bill Walker tracking thread
Post by: indeedproceed on December 03, 2009, 11:53:38 AM
haha toaster you're 10 mins too late amigo.
Title: Re: Red Claws/Bill Walker tracking thread
Post by: lon3lytoaster on December 03, 2009, 11:55:41 AM
haha toaster you're 10 mins too late amigo.

Cause I took time posting pics, doing lazy photoshops, and finding stats  :P
Title: Re: Red Claws/Bill Walker tracking thread
Post by: indeedproceed on December 03, 2009, 12:04:08 PM
haha toaster you're 10 mins too late amigo.

Cause I took time posting pics, doing lazy photoshops, and finding stats  :P

Oh your post was far superior to mine.

HOWEVER! What are you talking about "lazy photoshops?" That's a load! You're not allowed to HAVE photoshop!
Title: Re: Red Claws/Bill Walker tracking thread
Post by: lon3lytoaster on December 03, 2009, 12:12:43 PM
haha toaster you're 10 mins too late amigo.

Cause I took time posting pics, doing lazy photoshops, and finding stats  :P

Oh your post was far superior to mine.

HOWEVER! What are you talking about "lazy photoshops?" That's a load! You're not allowed to HAVE photoshop!

I used Gimp, actually.. It's the exact same thing as photoshop just completely free via the developers haha.

Course I could always get my MS Paint groove on  ;)
Title: Re: Tracking Pro Players on 'Da Claws: Bill Walker
Post by: Chris on December 03, 2009, 12:57:39 PM


It looks like Walker's really trying to add range to his game. I've also noticed that he's looking to finish soft inside, not looking for the highlight dunk EVERY time.

Thanks for the highlights.  Its tough to take too much from those, but they did tell me two things.  First, he is definitely looking a little slow and heavy.  I think this is the biggest reason he is down there right now.  He needs to get back in shape after being out for so long with the injury.  He looked a lot like he did at K-State, when he was also recovering from surgery. 

I also think that him finishing soft has as much to do with his injury as it does with a conscious decision.  I think he is still working on getting back his explosiveness.

Ultimately, I think it is going to be a while before we see Walker up here, unless there are injuries.  He can get a lot more work up in Portland, and can hopefully continue to develop his perimeter game more, while he gets back in shape.
Title: Re: Tracking Pro Players on 'Da Claws: Bill Walker
Post by: makaveli on December 03, 2009, 03:30:19 PM
I'll keep tabs on Billy, I like his game, he plays with swagger and confidence, you can see it on his face. Keep working and be pacient young buck.  :)
Title: Re: Tracking Pro Players on 'Da Claws: Bill Walker
Post by: Atzar on December 03, 2009, 03:42:42 PM


It looks like Walker's really trying to add range to his game. I've also noticed that he's looking to finish soft inside, not looking for the highlight dunk EVERY time.

Thanks for the highlights.  Its tough to take too much from those, but they did tell me two things.  First, he is definitely looking a little slow and heavy.  I think this is the biggest reason he is down there right now.  He needs to get back in shape after being out for so long with the injury.  He looked a lot like he did at K-State, when he was also recovering from surgery. 

I also think that him finishing soft has as much to do with his injury as it does with a conscious decision.  I think he is still working on getting back his explosiveness.

Ultimately, I think it is going to be a while before we see Walker up here, unless there are injuries.  He can get a lot more work up in Portland, and can hopefully continue to develop his perimeter game more, while he gets back in shape.

I agree with everything said in this post.  Also, he's fouling way too much - it greatly limited his playing time in the second game. 

Like the 3-point stroke - through 2 games - but everything else hints at a lack of quickness.  Hopefully that comes back as he gets into shape. 
Title: Re: Tracking Pro Players on 'Da Claws: Bill Walker
Post by: lon3lytoaster on December 19, 2009, 09:15:18 PM
Bill Walker's playing amazing against the Mad Ants right now. 27 points over three quarters, 12-13 from the field. One or two too many TO's, though.

He made a poster, too.
Title: Re: Tracking Pro Players on 'Da Claws: Bill Walker
Post by: Toine43 on December 19, 2009, 10:14:51 PM
Lester Hudson - ouch.

http://www.nba.com/dleague/games/boxscore.jsp?gameId=2020900067
Title: Re: Tracking Pro Players on 'Da Claws: Bill Walker
Post by: Roy Hobbs on December 19, 2009, 10:17:40 PM
Lester Hudson - ouch.

http://www.nba.com/dleague/games/boxscore.jsp?gameId=2020900067

Hudson was terrible, for sure.  Also, Maine took a page out of the Celts' book from last night, blowing a 10 point 4th quarter lead.
Title: Re: Tracking Pro Players on 'Da Claws: Bill Walker
Post by: lon3lytoaster on December 19, 2009, 10:50:22 PM
Not enough Walker down the stretch. Doesn't make sense to me. Other than a shot he had to take, he only missed one shot all night. 29 points, but only 2 in the 4th.
Title: Re: Tracking Pro Players on 'Da Claws: Bill Walker
Post by: ToppersBsktball10 on December 20, 2009, 12:06:12 AM
I was at the game. Walker was great, Lester Hudson sucked.
Title: Re: Tracking Pro Players on 'Da Claws: Bill Walker
Post by: thirstyboots18 on December 20, 2009, 10:02:52 AM
I watched part of the game.  Walker was a one man team...he was amazing...is there any shot he can't make?
Title: Re: Tracking Pro Players on 'Da Claws: Bill Walker
Post by: nickagneta on December 20, 2009, 10:33:48 AM
Haven't watched a single game but looking at the box score it seems that people are judging how well Walker and Hudson did last game based primarily on scoring. Now, I agree, scoring is a big part of the game, maybe the most important, but there's no way either Lester or Bill make this team and crack the rotation based on their scoring.

What I want to know is are they taking care of the basketball? Are they playing great defense? Are they playing within the schemes of the offense and defense or just going free lance? Are they rebounding, boxing out properly, and being tenacious on the boards? Are they making the extra pass and promoting good ball movement?

Those are the things that are going to get them playing time in Boston, not scoring a lot of points or scoring very little points. I mean, let's be real here. Walker is a whole lot more likely to go 8 for 17 from the field than he is 14 for 17 and Lester is a lot more likely 6 for 14 than he is 3 for 14 shooting the ball on any given night.

Volume scoring or scoring dirths are not going to impress me much in the D-League based on shooting performances. Those will vary. What I want to see before I say these guys have had good or bad games is whether they have done all the other things right. Things that will get them playing time up here. I mean Walker had a great night he scored 33 points. Yeah but he had more turnovers than assists and rebounds combined and the guy he was covering scored 30 points.

I'm guessing that does not bode well for Bill Walker in the minds of Doc Rivers and Danny Ainge.
Title: Bill Walker explodes for 33 points (14-17 FGM-A)
Post by: Global Celtic on December 20, 2009, 10:37:45 AM
Billy's getting into a rythm after that knee surgery. He's becoming a really dangerous player with that mixture of power game and 3-point range.

He scored 33 points in Maine's 113-105 loss against Fort Wayne.
Lester got 7 points and 5 assists. Maine still holds the second best score in D-League (7-2). 
Title: Re: Bill Walker explodes for 33 points (14-17 FGM-A)
Post by: rondohondo on December 20, 2009, 10:44:05 AM
Hopefully he will be ready to contribute by the second half of the season, he would be a great energy guy off the bench.
Title: Re: Bill Walker explodes for 33 points (14-17 FGM-A)
Post by: nickagneta on December 20, 2009, 10:48:17 AM
He also gave up 30 points and had more turnovers than rebounds and assists combined. Scoring doesn't impress me for guys who will coming off the bench in Boston and be expected to defend, pass, rebound, box out and move without before they will be expected to score.
Title: Re: Bill Walker explodes for 33 points (14-17 FGM-A)
Post by: makaveli on December 20, 2009, 11:32:33 AM
He also gave up 30 points and had more turnovers than rebounds and assists combined. Scoring doesn't impress me for guys who will coming off the bench in Boston and be expected to defend, pass, rebound, box out and move without before they will be expected to score.
Well put :) tp
Billy Billy, do a better job
I will try to catch a game or two over the next month
Title: Re: Bill Walker explodes for 33 points (14-17 FGM-A)
Post by: Dog_Lover106 on December 20, 2009, 11:49:37 AM
FWIW.....quick "scouting report"  from last nights game:

Sure it was only one game, but I was sitting about 6 rows from our GM, right at center court and it was very obvious that Lester is simply not an effective point guard right now ... even at the D-League level.

Perhaps it works a bit at the defensive end, as he really gets after it and his is very physical and strong. But he simply had trouble getting the ball up the court last night and was completely over matched by Oliver Lafayette.

Maybe it was just a bad shooting night for him, as his shot looked very flat, but his ball handling skills are suspect at this time.

Walker on the other hand pretty much did it all on the offensive end and he also played very good defense.

He had two sick dunks in traffic and several finishes that just left you shaking your head.

Yes, he would come into the lane making you think he might be able to get off a quick floater or short pull up jumper. Instead, he would just lift effortlessly and glide right to the rim for a beautiful finger roll with either left or right hand.

You would never know he has "knee issues" as there was no brace or wrap on either knee and he really is on another level with his physical skill set. Do not think he is 6' 6" though?

He did make some poor cross court passes that resulted in turnovers, but his shot looked very pure from the three point line.

Also, he used great judgment several times by passing up open threes and instead taking it to the rack against his run out defenders.

Alexis Ajinca clearly has some flaws, but it is hard to believe he is not on an NBA roster. Looks much bigger than his listed 7 feet and is very active at both ends. Sure it is tough to tell from one D-League game.....but he looks very talented to me and it appears he would give Charlotte everything Chandler does at about $10 million less.

We had a Vitaly sighting as he is an assistant for Fort Wayne. Yikes, just when I had finally put that era out of my mind the emotional scars return. Haha!