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1st time since 85 top 5 picks all rookie 1st team
« on: May 21, 2019, 07:29:13 PM »

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Doncic and Young were unanimous and along with Ayton are the final 3 for ROY.  Obviously Bagley and Jackson also made the team.
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Re: 1st time since 85 top 5 picks all rookie 1st team
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2019, 08:30:01 PM »

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Knox didn’t make either 1st or 2nd team.

Re: 1st time since 85 top 5 picks all rookie 1st team
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2019, 08:52:34 PM »

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Kind of crazy that this draft’s top 5 are legit the best players in the draft (as of right now).They would be in a different order in a redraft but as of right now the top 5 would remain the top 5.

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« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2019, 09:36:49 PM »

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Knox didn’t make either 1st or 2nd team.
I really can't see how Knox didn't make it over Shamet and Huerter and frankly you could make arguments he was better than Robinson and Gilgeous-Alexander (though Robinson's win shares were awesome).  Sexton is the only one on the 2nd team that pretty clearly was statistically better than Knox.  Wendell Carter not making it either is very surprising.  The 2nd team really is a pretty poorly selected team.
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Re: 1st time since 85 top 5 picks all rookie 1st team
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2019, 09:40:31 PM »

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Knox didn’t make either 1st or 2nd team.
I really can't see how Knox didn't make it over Shamet and Huerter and frankly you could make arguments he was better than Robinson and Gilgeous-Alexander (though Robinson's win shares were awesome).  Sexton is the only one on the 2nd team that pretty clearly was statistically better than Knox.  Wendell Carter not making it either is very surprising.  The 2nd team really is a pretty poorly selected team.
I don't think you could, unless you simply ignore shooting efficiency
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« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2019, 09:46:09 PM »

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All the choices look good to me, even Mikal as most votes of any player not on an All-Rookie team

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« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2019, 09:49:44 PM »

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Just some spot checks to see what other years were close. 

Looks like '91 draft had 4/5: Larry Johnson #1, Billy Owens #3, Mutombo #4, Steve Smith #5.  Missing is Kenny Anderson #2 who didn't even make 2nd team either, but went on to be an All-Star in Year 3, so things worked out okay.  Stacey Augmon #9 made it.

'92 draft was close.  Shaq #1, Mourning #2, Laettner #3, LaPhonso Ellis #5.  Missing is Jim Jackson #4 (might have made it to but remember he missed all but 28 games his rookie year in a contract dispute).  In was Tom Gugliotta #6.

'96 draft was also close.  Iverson #1, Camby #2, Abdur-Rahim #3, Marbury #4.  Missing is Ray Allen #5, but in his place was Antoine Walker #6.

'03 draft was close. LeBron #1, Carmelo #3, Bosh #4, Wade #5.  Missing is Darko #2 (ha), in was Hinrich #7.

'08 draft was close too.  Rose #1, Beasley #2, Mayo #3, Westbrook #4 are all in.  Missing is #5 Kevin Love (think he went on to have a decent career).  In was Brook Lopez #10.

Edit: missed '93 draft: Webber #1, Anfernee Hardaway #3, Mashburn #4, Isaiah Rider #5.  Missing was Shawn Bradley #2, and in was Vin Baker #8.
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Re: 1st time since 85 top 5 picks all rookie 1st team
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2019, 09:51:53 AM »

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All the choices look good to me, even Mikal as most votes of any player not on an All-Rookie team

Yes, I don't see anything wrong with the selections. And certainly not Knox, who has looked like a potential bust.
The thing that Knox has going for him is that he's super young, so a lot of years to improve. 

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« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2019, 10:09:43 AM »

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Knox didn’t make either 1st or 2nd team.
I really can't see how Knox didn't make it over Shamet and Huerter and frankly you could make arguments he was better than Robinson and Gilgeous-Alexander (though Robinson's win shares were awesome).  Sexton is the only one on the 2nd team that pretty clearly was statistically better than Knox.  Wendell Carter not making it either is very surprising.  The 2nd team really is a pretty poorly selected team.
I don't think you could, unless you simply ignore shooting efficiency

I want to promote the fact that Knox did not make either team to drive down his trade value in the Knick offer for AD!! Are you listening, David Griffin?

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« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2019, 10:13:28 AM »

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Knox didn’t make either 1st or 2nd team.
I really can't see how Knox didn't make it over Shamet and Huerter and frankly you could make arguments he was better than Robinson and Gilgeous-Alexander (though Robinson's win shares were awesome).  Sexton is the only one on the 2nd team that pretty clearly was statistically better than Knox.  Wendell Carter not making it either is very surprising.  The 2nd team really is a pretty poorly selected team.
I don't think you could, unless you simply ignore shooting efficiency

I want to promote the fact that Knox did not make either team to drive down his trade value in the Knick offer for AD!! Are you listening, David Griffin?
Hey David, his TS% was 47.5! That's awful!
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)