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2019 Acadamy Awards
« on: January 21, 2019, 01:45:31 PM »

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Oscar nominations are announced tomorrow. Not sure if anyone else on the board cares but here are my predictions:

BP:
A Star Is Born
Roma
Green Book
The Favourite
BlacKkKlansman
Black Panther
Vice
If Beale Street Could Talk

BD:
Alfonso Cuaron
Bradley Cooper
Spike Lee
Yorgos Lanthimos
Peter Farelly
(my hope is Adam McKay takes Farelly's spot, my fear is Lanthimos somehow gets left off to fit in McKay and Farelly still gets nominated)

AS:
BlacKkKlansman
If Beale Street Could Talk
Black Panther
Can You Ever Forgive Me?
Death of Stalin

OS:
The Favourite
Roma
Green Book
First Reformed
Eight Grade

BA:
Glenn Close
Lady Gaga
Olivia Coleman
Mellissa McCarthy
Yalitza Aparicio

Christian Bale
Bradley Cooper
Rami Malek
Viggo Mortenson
John David Washington

BSA:
Regina King
Amy Adams
Rachel Weisz
Emma Stone
Emily Blunt

Mahershala Ali
Richard E. Grant
Adam Driver
Sam Elliott
Sam Rockwell
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Re: 2019 Acadamy Awards
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2019, 01:48:53 PM »

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I'm not interested at all in the awards, but I am interested in whether Big333223 nailed the nominations.  Once they are in, post your score.

Re: 2019 Acadamy Awards
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2019, 11:44:41 AM »

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I'm not interested at all in the awards, but I am interested in whether Big333223 nailed the nominations.  Once they are in, post your score.

36/43

I nailed the Lead Actress and Supporting Actor categories and went 7/8 on Best Picture.

I feel like I can call it for Roma right now.

EDIT: Upon wife-review, I got 35/43, not 36.
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Re: 2019 Acadamy Awards
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2019, 11:54:54 AM »

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Nicely done

Re: 2019 Acadamy Awards
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2019, 12:21:39 PM »

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Surprised to see black panther nominated for best picture.  I certainly liked it, but honestly if we are nominating movies for best picture just based on likability they should have nominated Spider-Man: Into the Spider-verse.   It was my favorite movie of the year and was extremely creative artistically.  My 2nd favorite of the year was “Eighth Grade” fwiw, but it doesn’t look like it was nominated for anything.

Re: 2019 Acadamy Awards
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2019, 01:33:09 PM »

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Surprised to see black panther nominated for best picture.  I certainly liked it, but honestly if we are nominating movies for best picture just based on likability they should have nominated Spider-Man: Into the Spider-verse.   It was my favorite movie of the year and was extremely creative artistically.  My 2nd favorite of the year was “Eighth Grade” fwiw, but it doesn’t look like it was nominated for anything.

Spider-Verse got a Best Animated Feature nomination and has a shot at winning it.

I thought Eight Grade had a chance at Screenplay but it didn't get that. I still haven't seen it but I'd like to soon.

As for Black Panther, I think it deserved its nomination. There are precedents for big crowd pleasers to get a BP nomination. Jaws, Star Wars, Raiders, Beauty and the Beast. Black Panther deals with weightier subjects than any of those movies. It's interesting to hear Coogler talk about Panther as being a movie about a politician. The action is all very slick but the story and themes run a lot deeper than I realized the first time I watched it.
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Re: 2019 Acadamy Awards
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2019, 01:49:40 PM »

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I'm not interested at all in the awards, but I am interested in whether Big333223 nailed the nominations.  Once they are in, post your score.

36/43

I nailed the Lead Actress and Supporting Actor categories and went 7/8 on Best Picture.

I feel like I can call it for Roma right now.

Dems Romo numbers. Nice job.

Re: 2019 Acadamy Awards
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2019, 03:34:39 PM »

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Surprised to see black panther nominated for best picture.  I certainly liked it, but honestly if we are nominating movies for best picture just based on likability they should have nominated Spider-Man: Into the Spider-verse.   It was my favorite movie of the year and was extremely creative artistically.  My 2nd favorite of the year was “Eighth Grade” fwiw, but it doesn’t look like it was nominated for anything.

Spider-Verse got a Best Animated Feature nomination and has a shot at winning it.

I thought Eight Grade had a chance at Screenplay but it didn't get that. I still haven't seen it but I'd like to soon.

As for Black Panther, I think it deserved its nomination. There are precedents for big crowd pleasers to get a BP nomination. Jaws, Star Wars, Raiders, Beauty and the Beast. Black Panther deals with weightier subjects than any of those movies. It's interesting to hear Coogler talk about Panther as being a movie about a politician. The action is all very slick but the story and themes run a lot deeper than I realized the first time I watched it.
Black Panther is greatly overrated.  It is a good movie, but it isn't nearly as good as has been made out.  I do think it being about a black superhero with a mostly black cast has elevated the movie more than it should have been.  I mean Thor: Ragnarok (which I know was 2017) was a much better super hero movie on the whole, and also dealt with pretty weighty subjects/topics.  I do love Killmonger though.  Great villain, maybe the best villain in all of the Marvel movies (even better than Thanos). 
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Re: 2019 Acadamy Awards
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2019, 03:38:27 PM »

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Surprised to see black panther nominated for best picture.  I certainly liked it, but honestly if we are nominating movies for best picture just based on likability they should have nominated Spider-Man: Into the Spider-verse.   It was my favorite movie of the year and was extremely creative artistically.  My 2nd favorite of the year was “Eighth Grade” fwiw, but it doesn’t look like it was nominated for anything.

Spider-Verse got a Best Animated Feature nomination and has a shot at winning it.

I thought Eight Grade had a chance at Screenplay but it didn't get that. I still haven't seen it but I'd like to soon.

As for Black Panther, I think it deserved its nomination. There are precedents for big crowd pleasers to get a BP nomination. Jaws, Star Wars, Raiders, Beauty and the Beast. Black Panther deals with weightier subjects than any of those movies. It's interesting to hear Coogler talk about Panther as being a movie about a politician. The action is all very slick but the story and themes run a lot deeper than I realized the first time I watched it.
Black Panther is greatly overrated.  It is a good movie, but it isn't nearly as good as has been made out.  I do think it being about a black superhero with a mostly black cast has elevated the movie more than it should have been.  I mean Thor: Ragnarok (which I know was 2017) was a much better super hero movie on the whole, and also dealt with pretty weighty subjects/topics.  I do love Killmonger though.  Great villain, maybe the best villain in all of the Marvel movies (even better than Thanos).
black panther was definitely a bit overrated, but to be fair “Bohemian Rhapsody” was flat out bad with really poor reviews and somehow that got nominated for best picture - which is laughable.  It got a 49 out of 100 on metacritic.  That’s terrible.

Re: 2019 Acadamy Awards
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2019, 03:49:53 PM »

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Surprised to see black panther nominated for best picture.  I certainly liked it, but honestly if we are nominating movies for best picture just based on likability they should have nominated Spider-Man: Into the Spider-verse.   It was my favorite movie of the year and was extremely creative artistically.  My 2nd favorite of the year was “Eighth Grade” fwiw, but it doesn’t look like it was nominated for anything.


Re: Black Panther, I feel that there's a key distinction between "Important" and "Best."


Black Panther was a hugely significant movie, perhaps the most culturally significant movie of 2018.

Was it the best movie?

My opinion: Not even close.


I felt Eighth Grade, as an example, was a much more interesting and challenging movie, with impressive feats of writing and acting that Black Panther can't match.

Eighth Grade was unlike any movie I've ever seen, whereas Black Panther was similar to pretty much every Marvel movie I've seen.

That said, it's hard to argue that Eighth Grade meant more to our culture, or that it will be remembered five years from now, whereas Black Panther will be remembered and talked about for a long time.


For my part, I think "Best" should mean "Best."  If you want to honor movies that have great cultural and political significance because of the subject matter or because of representation, then create a separate category for that.
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Re: 2019 Acadamy Awards
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2019, 05:25:28 PM »

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Surprised to see black panther nominated for best picture.  I certainly liked it, but honestly if we are nominating movies for best picture just based on likability they should have nominated Spider-Man: Into the Spider-verse.   It was my favorite movie of the year and was extremely creative artistically.  My 2nd favorite of the year was “Eighth Grade” fwiw, but it doesn’t look like it was nominated for anything.

Spider-Verse got a Best Animated Feature nomination and has a shot at winning it.

I thought Eight Grade had a chance at Screenplay but it didn't get that. I still haven't seen it but I'd like to soon.

As for Black Panther, I think it deserved its nomination. There are precedents for big crowd pleasers to get a BP nomination. Jaws, Star Wars, Raiders, Beauty and the Beast. Black Panther deals with weightier subjects than any of those movies. It's interesting to hear Coogler talk about Panther as being a movie about a politician. The action is all very slick but the story and themes run a lot deeper than I realized the first time I watched it.
Black Panther is greatly overrated.  It is a good movie, but it isn't nearly as good as has been made out.  I do think it being about a black superhero with a mostly black cast has elevated the movie more than it should have been.  I mean Thor: Ragnarok (which I know was 2017) was a much better super hero movie on the whole, and also dealt with pretty weighty subjects/topics.  I do love Killmonger though.  Great villain, maybe the best villain in all of the Marvel movies (even better than Thanos).

I also really liked Ragnarok but you're going to have to remind me about what weighty issues it tackled.

Black Panther's central conflict about the responsibilities of a prosperous nation to those being oppressed around the world is not just timely but it's a real, deep conflict and one that, I think, was dealt with very intelligently. You have a protagonist who is on one side of the issue while his love interest and the antagonist are on the opposite side. It takes a messy issue and dissects it without talking down or being didactic.

I got a lot more out of it on second viewing. Not just the slickness of Coogler's direction, which was impressive in and of itself but the writing felt a lot stronger the more I thought about that conflict, how it was handled, and how well integrated it was into a big hollywood special effects-fest.

EDIT: And while I tend to feel more strongly about smaller movies, I think celebrating how difficult making something like that is when its done well. I felt the same way about Mad Max a couple years ago.
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Re: 2019 Acadamy Awards
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2019, 05:31:24 PM »

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Remi Malak getting a nomination was so predictable. The Academy just love actors in biopic roles. Thought he was good but not Academy Awards good.

Re: 2019 Acadamy Awards
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2019, 05:43:10 PM »

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For my part, I think "Best" should mean "Best."  If you want to honor movies that have great cultural and political significance because of the subject matter or because of representation, then create a separate category for that.

I think a movie that is able to speak to a cultural or political moment in a significant way and is able to do so without preaching, is better than a movie of equal quality that has nothing to say. There are great movies that entertain and have nothing else going on and many which are better than "message movies" that don't have the same level of craft but the ability to do both, I think, is worth celebrating.

And I thought Black Panther was the best Marvel movie since Avengers, with much more interesting themes.
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Re: 2019 Acadamy Awards
« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2019, 06:24:50 PM »

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I'm not interested at all in the awards, but I am interested in whether Big333223 nailed the nominations.  Once they are in, post your score.

36/43

I nailed the Lead Actress and Supporting Actor categories and went 7/8 on Best Picture.

I feel like I can call it for Roma right now.

Dems Romo numbers. Nice job.

Oops. Accounting error. I got 35/43.
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Re: 2019 Acadamy Awards
« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2019, 06:28:04 PM »

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I'm not interested at all in the awards, but I am interested in whether Big333223 nailed the nominations.  Once they are in, post your score.

36/43

I nailed the Lead Actress and Supporting Actor categories and went 7/8 on Best Picture.

I feel like I can call it for Roma right now.

EDIT: Upon wife-review, I got 35/43, not 36.


Nice Going!   

Though I enjoy movies, it would be impossible for me to overstate how little I care about who wins acting or movie-making awards (tbh, I don't care who wins individual sports awards either), but I am impressed with your prognosticating... TP!