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Title: Deandre Ayton final piece of the puzzle?
Post by: Tr1boy on December 10, 2017, 01:17:05 PM
I want the Celts to draft this guy

When was the last time you seen a center move like Ayton?  His footwork, athleticism, overall skills

Doesn't even look like is trying very hard and could dial it up another notch.  Shooting stroke short, compact, functional. 

2018 highlights

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZK9dVk9CwhU

Basketball gods, one more gift for the Green team.  Thanks
Title: Re: Deandre Ayton final piece of the puzzle?
Post by: CelticsElite on December 10, 2017, 01:42:47 PM
He is an absolute beast. I agree, basketball looks effortless to ayton.

If we can't get him, Bagley or Jaren jackson would still be very good
Title: Re: Deandre Ayton final piece of the puzzle?
Post by: Tr1boy on December 10, 2017, 01:45:55 PM
He is an absolute beast. I agree, basketball looks effortless to ayton.

If we can't get him, Bagley or Jaren jackson would still be very good

Exactly

I say Ayton or Sexton would fill a need and are top talents as well
Title: Re: Deandre Ayton final piece of the puzzle?
Post by: CELTICSofBOSTON on December 10, 2017, 01:46:29 PM
Yeah, if we get the 2nd pick and select Deandre Ayton, I will never ask the basketball gods for anything ever again. 
Title: Re: Deandre Ayton final piece of the puzzle?
Post by: chilidawg on December 10, 2017, 02:18:55 PM
Arizona has been getting torched defensively inside.  I'd like to see a little more at that end before I proclaim him the final piece.  Youtube highlights don't help much there.
Title: Re: Deandre Ayton final piece of the puzzle?
Post by: chilidawg on December 10, 2017, 02:19:54 PM
He is an absolute beast. I agree, basketball looks effortless to ayton.

If we can't get him, Bagley or Jaren jackson would still be very good

Exactly

I say Ayton or Sexton would fill a need and are top talents as well

How does Sexton fit a need?  Bench scorer? 
Title: Re: Deandre Ayton final piece of the puzzle?
Post by: nickagneta on December 10, 2017, 02:38:58 PM
Would rather have the best player coming out in this draft, Luka Doncic.
Title: Re: Deandre Ayton final piece of the puzzle?
Post by: Beat LA on December 12, 2017, 03:24:32 AM
When was the last time you seen a center move like Ayton?  His footwork, athleticism, overall skills

Last year - Justin Patton.

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Doesn't even look like is trying very hard and could dial it up another notch.  Shooting stroke short, compact, functional.
 

And that's what worries me, not to mention that his 1.3 bpg is kind of alarming given his physical profile, imo.

Either way, it's too early for this stuff, lol. 
Title: Re: Deandre Ayton final piece of the puzzle?
Post by: Eddie20 on December 12, 2017, 08:04:29 AM
I want the Celts to draft this guy

When was the last time you seen a center move like Ayton?  His footwork, athleticism, overall skills

I like Ayton, but you saying the above is concerning considering you said the EXACT same things about Mickey.
Title: Re: Deandre Ayton final piece of the puzzle?
Post by: CelticsElite on December 12, 2017, 08:21:16 AM
As long as we can get one of doncic, porter, ayton, and maybe jackson jr, we are good. After watching banba, he is too much of a project. He gets the ball stolen and can't dribble sometimes. Ayton would be great
Title: Re: Deandre Ayton final piece of the puzzle?
Post by: smokeablount on December 12, 2017, 01:30:59 PM
When was the last time you seen a center move like Ayton?  His footwork, athleticism, overall skills

Last year - Justin Patton.

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Doesn't even look like is trying very hard and could dial it up another notch.  Shooting stroke short, compact, functional.
 

And that's what worries me, not to mention that his 1.3 bpg is kind of alarming given his physical profile, imo.

Either way, it's too early for this stuff, lol.

Patton didn’t move like Ayton and Ayton is far more skilled and athletic. I wouldn’t think to compare these guys.

Patton went to a non power school and was not highly touted in HS, and he got drafted out of the lottery last year. Ayton has been on the radar for years and might go #1 over a “generational” player in Marvin Bagley.

That said, I’d certainly like to see more before I crown him.
Title: Re: Deandre Ayton final piece of the puzzle?
Post by: konkmv on December 12, 2017, 02:44:32 PM
I think we should consider prospects at the 24-30 range
Title: Re: Deandre Ayton final piece of the puzzle?
Post by: mef730 on December 12, 2017, 03:09:45 PM
I think we should consider prospects at the 24-30 range

Beat me to it. My question is who we trade in addition to the 27th pick to get into the top-5.

Mike
Title: Re: Deandre Ayton final piece of the puzzle?
Post by: konkmv on December 12, 2017, 03:36:42 PM
No-one... our next year's pick is hayward
Title: Re: Deandre Ayton final piece of the puzzle?
Post by: green_bballers13 on December 12, 2017, 03:55:30 PM
I think we should consider prospects at the 24-30 range

Beat me to it. My question is who we trade in addition to the 27th pick to get into the top-5.

Mike

I think next year's draft is one the Celtics don't get to participate too much in.

ESPN has the Celtics getting the 2, 9, and 18th picks in 2019 using the Kings, Grizzlies, and Clippers picks. Very exciting.
Title: Re: Deandre Ayton final piece of the puzzle?
Post by: Tr1boy on December 12, 2017, 04:28:40 PM
When was the last time you seen a center move like Ayton?  His footwork, athleticism, overall skills

Last year - Justin Patton.

Quote
Doesn't even look like is trying very hard and could dial it up another notch.  Shooting stroke short, compact, functional.
 

And that's what worries me, not to mention that his 1.3 bpg is kind of alarming given his physical profile, imo.

Either way, it's too early for this stuff, lol.

Patton didn’t move like Ayton and Ayton is far more skilled and athletic. I wouldn’t think to compare these guys.

Patton went to a non power school and was not highly touted in HS, and he got drafted out of the lottery last year. Ayton has been on the radar for years and might go #1 over a “generational” player in Marvin Bagley.

That said, I’d certainly like to see more before I crown him.

Exactly...

Celts could use a real big... Horford is not the answer  vs bigger centers
Title: Re: Deandre Ayton final piece of the puzzle?
Post by: ETNCeltics on December 12, 2017, 04:31:35 PM
He'd be great, but it doesn't matter, we aren't going to get him. We'd need the #2 or #3 pick, but barring the injury bug hits LAL the way it has us, we don't have much of a chance to get a pick that high.
Title: Re: Deandre Ayton final piece of the puzzle?
Post by: coffee425 on December 12, 2017, 04:36:55 PM
He'd be great, but it doesn't matter, we aren't going to get him. We'd need the #2 or #3 pick, but barring the injury bug hits LAL the way it has us, we don't have much of a chance to get a pick that high.

Never bet against a trade, my friend.
Title: Re: Deandre Ayton final piece of the puzzle?
Post by: Big333223 on December 12, 2017, 04:44:53 PM
Is it fair to say we're waitin for Ayton?
Title: Re: Deandre Ayton final piece of the puzzle?
Post by: CelticsElite on December 14, 2017, 03:39:37 PM
I love ayton and his offensive ability but I'm starting to question his defense. Arizona is getting scored on tremendously. This has made me start leaning toward Wendell Carter, who has a well balanced 2 way game

This is someone's critical take on aytons defense:

It's not that he's a big who can't protect the rim. He's clueless. KAT is struggling to defend in the NBA, but he tries. He doesn't miss every rotation, he's not lost on every switch, he knows when to block and when not to (actually, that 's not entirely true)l ike ayton does. Ayton doesn't box out properly, has no feel for waiting for the perfect moment to contest, doesn't communicate on defense...

And to me, the biggest flaw of his (and other bad defenders that make me cringe) : He has no idea what tendencies are. He guards elite 3pt shooters the same way he guards slash-only guards. He doesn't direct traffic or forces guys to their weak hand, or sags off bad shooters...he just...sticks around until a shot is made.

Okafor, who is heavily criticized, has all those instincts but his motor and physical tools limit his defensive upside. He'll never be a great defender. But Ayton has it all. He reminds me of Kansas Wiggins; all the tools
Title: Re: Deandre Ayton final piece of the puzzle?
Post by: chilidawg on December 14, 2017, 11:04:14 PM
I'd disagree that Okafor has those instincts, but it's clear that Ayton isn't showing them.  The question is can he develop them.  Watching him over the whole season and seeing if he improves over the course of the season will be a big part of what I pay attention to. 

FWIW, Bagley's defense hasn't looked good either.  But both guys certainly have the tools.
Title: Re: Deandre Ayton final piece of the puzzle?
Post by: CelticsElite on December 14, 2017, 11:13:22 PM
I'd disagree that Okafor has those instincts, but it's clear that Ayton isn't showing them.  The question is can he develop them.  Watching him over the whole season and seeing if he improves over the course of the season will be a big part of what I pay attention to. 

FWIW, Bagley's defense hasn't looked good either.  But both guys certainly have the tools.
i agree that Bagley doesn’t either. I’m liking what I see from Wendell carter though. He seems the most complete 2 way big from the draft
Title: Re: Deandre Ayton final piece of the puzzle?
Post by: chilidawg on December 14, 2017, 11:15:25 PM
Carter's a solid defender imo, but he has an old school Z-Bo offensive game that I don't think plays up well.
Title: Re: Deandre Ayton final piece of the puzzle?
Post by: CelticsElite on December 14, 2017, 11:29:50 PM
Carter's a solid defender imo, but he has an old school Z-Bo offensive game that I don't think plays up well.
you know what’s funny? They said the same exact thing about Tatum. "old school post moves. Don't know if he has 3 pt range."

Just like Tatum, Carter has a nice shooting form that has shown occasional flashes from 3 (at a lesser frequency than Tatum).