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Other Discussions => Entertainment => Off Topic => Other Entertainment / Hobbies => Topic started by: Rondo2287 on November 10, 2009, 06:14:15 PM
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So im late to this story, but I heard a little bit about this on my way home from work.
Apparently Ordway wrote on his facebook page that he was, " The Big O is calling out Bill Simmons for backing out of an interview today."
Simmons replied back via twitter, "Hey WEEI: You were wrong, I did a Boston interview today. With your competition. Rather give them ratings over deceitful scumbags like you."
Now The big Show Facebook says, "The Big O... is still trying to find out which "bosses" at ESPN put the kibosh on our Bill Simmons interview."
Definitely a funny development. I have always said I like WEEI better cause they get the better interviews, but now I dont know this could start a momentum shift.
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It sounds pretty unprofessional of Simmons, if there was an agreed to interview and he backed out.
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I hate Bill Simmons and honestly can't understand how anyone in this blogging community we have backs him.
The guy didn't believe in Doc Rivers as a coach. It's as simple as that. He's always been the pessimistic "debbie the downer" type re: Ainge and Doc (despite their amazing track records).
He's just such the typical idiodic fan, Edited. Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.ting on the Celtics when they lose and never really praising them too much when they're gelling.
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Or pretty unprofessional of WEEI, if they're the ones who backed out.
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It sounds pretty unprofessional of Simmons, if there was an agreed to interview and he backed out.
I don't live in Boston, but who really knows whats going on.
A feud is just the sort of thing a radio station will go out of its way to create some sort of buzz/ratings.
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Or pretty unprofessional of WEEI, if they're the ones who backed out.
Sure, although that doesn't seem to fit within the context of the various contents.
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I like Simmons, except when he talks about the Celtics or real world/road rules.
Anyone who has followed him should be surprised that he was even expected to be on WEEI's the big show. I mean, he was coaxing people into making fake Ordway twitter accounts and posting ridiculous stuff. An interview would've been good publicity for both parties, but I'm not surprised to see that it blew up.
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My thinking is that there was some confusion on both parts regarding the interview. Big O posted that on his facebook page, Bill got mad and went on 98.5. I cant really blame him, I would be mad to if Ordway was just throwing my name in the mud like that.
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I hate Bill Simmons and honestly can't understand how anyone in this blogging community we have backs him.
The guy didn't believe in Doc Rivers as a coach. It's as simple as that. He's always been the pessimistic "debbie the downer" type re: Ainge and Doc (despite their amazing track records).
He's just such the typical idiodic fan, ****ting on the Celtics when they lose and never really praising them too much when they're gelling.
Pretty sure there were a lot, a lot of people that didn't believe in Doc Rivers as a coach, or Ainge as GM. He just happens to write for a major column and can be brutally honest sometimes when it comes to what he writes. He's actaully written some articles pretty recently praising Doc saying how wrong he was about him etc etc. It's not like he still claims that Doc is a bad coach. I don't love the guy but people seem to get so worked up over him when I see tons of Celtics fans saying the same things he is but just don't get it put in a column every day
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I hate Bill Simmons and honestly can't understand how anyone in this blogging community we have backs him.
The guy didn't believe in Doc Rivers as a coach. It's as simple as that. He's always been the pessimistic "debbie the downer" type re: Ainge and Doc (despite their amazing track records).
He's just such the typical idiodic fan, ****ting on the Celtics when they lose and never really praising them too much when they're gelling.
Pretty sure there were a lot, a lot of people that didn't believe in Doc Rivers as a coach, or Ainge as GM. He just happens to write for a major column and can be brutally honest sometimes when it comes to what he writes. He's actaully written some articles pretty recently praising Doc saying how wrong he was about him etc etc. It's not like he still claims that Doc is a bad coach. I don't love the guy but people seem to get so worked up over him when I see tons of Celtics fans saying the same things he is but just don't get it put in a column every day
And infact, Bill was a big supporter of having Danny coach the team if I recall.
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simmons and eei both suck. 98.5 > eei
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I was dying laughing during this, this guy is such a pansy. Just grow some and get over yourself... like one of the callers says "this guy is no longer a Bostonian, he's now an official Los Angeles citizen.
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I was listening to the Sports Hub when Simmons went on. He said that he agreed to go on the Big Show a couple of weeks ago with no real set date. He also said that he and Ordway got in a fight soon there after and decided to hold off on the interview until further notice. Simmons says Ordway then made completely false allegations that Bill was supposed to be on today. Simmons said that was never the plan at all. He then decided to call the Sports Hub because ESPN is allowing him to call radio stations that may be in competition with ESPN to promote his book. Felger told him he sounded like he was whining and should just drop it and go on the Big Show (In not so few words). Simmons said he would rather promote the Sports Hub and help their ratings than talk to Ordway and his posse which he said would just be a shouting match that would have no positive influence on his career (Which is almost positively correct, even more so if he were to go on now). If Simmons is lying shame on him, and he is wrong. If Ordway is lying shame on him, and Simmons made the right choice IMO. Does anybody know Judge Judy personally? She could probably solve the problem.
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Was this latest development from today?
I do know either last week or the week before, Ordway came out pretty harsh on the Big Show calling Simmons his "fraud of the week" or month and proceeded (along with Shepard) to go off pretty hard on Simmons. Evidently, Simmons had appeared on the D&C that morning and had some not so nice words for the Big Show. Ordway started rehashing a meeting with Simmons while they were down in New Orleans for Super Bowl XXXVI and such.
Honestly, the truth probably lies somewhere in between what Ordway is saying and what Simmons is saying. As Harry Carey once said, "There are 3 sides to every story. Your side, my side, and the truth".
I do know Simmons has taken some digs at the Big Show over the years but he's far from the only one.
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I hate Bill Simmons and honestly can't understand how anyone in this blogging community we have backs him.
The guy didn't believe in Doc Rivers as a coach. It's as simple as that. He's always been the pessimistic "debbie the downer" type re: Ainge and Doc (despite their amazing track records).
He's just such the typical idiodic fan, ****ting on the Celtics when they lose and never really praising them too much when they're gelling.
Pretty sure there were a lot, a lot of people that didn't believe in Doc Rivers as a coach, or Ainge as GM. He just happens to write for a major column and can be brutally honest sometimes when it comes to what he writes. He's actaully written some articles pretty recently praising Doc saying how wrong he was about him etc etc. It's not like he still claims that Doc is a bad coach. I don't love the guy but people seem to get so worked up over him when I see tons of Celtics fans saying the same things he is but just don't get it put in a column every day
And infact, Bill was a big supporter of having Danny coach the team if I recall.
I know I was.
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I hate Bill Simmons and honestly can't understand how anyone in this blogging community we have backs him.
The guy didn't believe in Doc Rivers as a coach. It's as simple as that. He's always been the pessimistic "debbie the downer" type re: Ainge and Doc (despite their amazing track records).
He's just such the typical idiodic fan, ****ting on the Celtics when they lose and never really praising them too much when they're gelling.
Pretty sure there were a lot, a lot of people that didn't believe in Doc Rivers as a coach, or Ainge as GM. He just happens to write for a major column and can be brutally honest sometimes when it comes to what he writes. He's actaully written some articles pretty recently praising Doc saying how wrong he was about him etc etc. It's not like he still claims that Doc is a bad coach. I don't love the guy but people seem to get so worked up over him when I see tons of Celtics fans saying the same things he is but just don't get it put in a column every day
And infact, Bill was a big supporter of having Danny coach the team if I recall.
You guys beat me to it. I couldn't stand Doc back then and I agreed that Danny should have been the coach. TP
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why can't we all just get along??? No but seriously I like all of these guys. I read Simmons, listen to EEi, and i like Felger and Mazz. I might not agree with them at all a lot of the time but i think there stuff is entertaining at least. I used to not like the Big Show at all but it really grew on me. If only these guys could just talk more celts. I love other NE sports but the celts just don't get enough love
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It sounds pretty unprofessional of Simmons, if there was an agreed to interview and he backed out.
It seems even more sketchy because of the partnership with WEEI and ESPN.
Either way, Simmons can be a bit of a petty brat at times, so I am not surprised.
The funny thing is, these are like two of the most hated media people on this site. WEEI (and specifically Big O), versus Simmons. Can they both lose?
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Either way, Simmons can be a bit of a petty brat at times, so I am not surprised.
... and that's one of the primary reasons I don't like Simmons much anymore. That, and the fact that he bills himself as Superfan #1, despite ripping the team and team management (usually unfairly) every chance he gets.
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I don't think it's a WEEI feud as much as just him and Ordway.
He was on WEEI like a week ago and didn't have a problem when he was on in the morning. He did mention he didn't care for Ordway then too. Whatever, it's pretty entertaining.
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You guys seen this? Its funny.
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=4602862
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I hate Bill Simmons and honestly can't understand how anyone in this blogging community we have backs him.
The guy didn't believe in Doc Rivers as a coach. It's as simple as that. He's always been the pessimistic "debbie the downer" type re: Ainge and Doc (despite their amazing track records).
He's just such the typical idiodic fan, ****ting on the Celtics when they lose and never really praising them too much when they're gelling.
Amazing track records? I'm pretty sure before 07 those don't exist. I don't see the problem with being a pessamistic fan, thats how I am (maybe thats why I don't see a problem with it)
Anyway I love Simmons but I think its pretty obvious he avoids confrontation and can be a bit of a baby.
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I hate Bill Simmons and honestly can't understand how anyone in this blogging community we have backs him.
The guy didn't believe in Doc Rivers as a coach. It's as simple as that. He's always been the pessimistic "debbie the downer" type re: Ainge and Doc (despite their amazing track records).
He's just such the typical idiodic fan, ****ting on the Celtics when they lose and never really praising them too much when they're gelling.
Amazing track records? I'm pretty sure before 07 those don't exist. I don't see the problem with being a pessamistic fan, thats how I am (maybe thats why I don't see a problem with it)
Anyway I love Simmons but I think its pretty obvious he avoids confrontation and can be a bit of a baby.
Well, I believe Doc did win coach of the year in Orlando.
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I hate Bill Simmons and honestly can't understand how anyone in this blogging community we have backs him.
The guy didn't believe in Doc Rivers as a coach. It's as simple as that. He's always been the pessimistic "debbie the downer" type re: Ainge and Doc (despite their amazing track records).
He's just such the typical idiodic fan, ****ting on the Celtics when they lose and never really praising them too much when they're gelling.
Amazing track records? I'm pretty sure before 07 those don't exist. I don't see the problem with being a pessamistic fan, thats how I am (maybe thats why I don't see a problem with it)
Anyway I love Simmons but I think its pretty obvious he avoids confrontation and can be a bit of a baby.
Well, I believe Doc did win coach of the year in Orlando.
well if your going to try and bring "facts" into the discussion Then your going to ruin my whole argument.
Regardless as others have said there was a lot of people who weren't sure about Doc's coaching ability until the 07 Finals but he proved us wrong
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I hate Bill Simmons and honestly can't understand how anyone in this blogging community we have backs him.
The guy didn't believe in Doc Rivers as a coach. It's as simple as that. He's always been the pessimistic "debbie the downer" type re: Ainge and Doc (despite their amazing track records).
He's just such the typical idiodic fan, ****ting on the Celtics when they lose and never really praising them too much when they're gelling.
Amazing track records? I'm pretty sure before 07 those don't exist. I don't see the problem with being a pessamistic fan, thats how I am (maybe thats why I don't see a problem with it)
Anyway I love Simmons but I think its pretty obvious he avoids confrontation and can be a bit of a baby.
Well, I believe Doc did win coach of the year in Orlando.
well if your going to try and bring "facts" into the discussion Then your going to ruin my whole argument.
Regardless as others have said there was a lot of people who weren't sure about Doc's coaching ability until the 07 Finals but he proved us wrong
Oh, absolutely. On this site alone, I would say close to 80-90% of the posters wanted Doc long gone before '07.
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I hate Bill Simmons and honestly can't understand how anyone in this blogging community we have backs him.
The guy didn't believe in Doc Rivers as a coach. It's as simple as that. He's always been the pessimistic "debbie the downer" type re: Ainge and Doc (despite their amazing track records).
He's just such the typical idiodic fan, ****ting on the Celtics when they lose and never really praising them too much when they're gelling.
Amazing track records? I'm pretty sure before 07 those don't exist. I don't see the problem with being a pessamistic fan, thats how I am (maybe thats why I don't see a problem with it)
Anyway I love Simmons but I think its pretty obvious he avoids confrontation and can be a bit of a baby.
Well, I believe Doc did win coach of the year in Orlando.
Good point, and DA coached some pretty decent teams in PHO.
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I hate Bill Simmons and honestly can't understand how anyone in this blogging community we have backs him.
The guy didn't believe in Doc Rivers as a coach. It's as simple as that. He's always been the pessimistic "debbie the downer" type re: Ainge and Doc (despite their amazing track records).
He's just such the typical idiodic fan, ****ting on the Celtics when they lose and never really praising them too much when they're gelling.
Amazing track records? I'm pretty sure before 07 those don't exist. I don't see the problem with being a pessamistic fan, thats how I am (maybe thats why I don't see a problem with it)
Anyway I love Simmons but I think its pretty obvious he avoids confrontation and can be a bit of a baby.
Well, I believe Doc did win coach of the year in Orlando.
Doc may have had a decent track record but getting coach of the year is such a joke. Didn't he get fired the next season after like 10 games? How can you be coach of the year one year and the very next not be able to cut it for more than 10 games. It's a stupid award IMO. Or at least it's not a very impressive award
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You guys seen this? Its funny.
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=4602862
TP that was very funny
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I hate Bill Simmons and honestly can't understand how anyone in this blogging community we have backs him.
The guy didn't believe in Doc Rivers as a coach. It's as simple as that. He's always been the pessimistic "debbie the downer" type re: Ainge and Doc (despite their amazing track records).
He's just such the typical idiodic fan, ****ting on the Celtics when they lose and never really praising them too much when they're gelling.
Pretty sure there were a lot, a lot of people that didn't believe in Doc Rivers as a coach, or Ainge as GM. He just happens to write for a major column and can be brutally honest sometimes when it comes to what he writes. He's actaully written some articles pretty recently praising Doc saying how wrong he was about him etc etc. It's not like he still claims that Doc is a bad coach. I don't love the guy but people seem to get so worked up over him when I see tons of Celtics fans saying the same things he is but just don't get it put in a column every day
And infact, Bill was a big supporter of having Danny coach the team if I recall.
You guys beat me to it. I couldn't stand Doc back then and I agreed that Danny should have been the coach. TP
I agree. I don't remember Doc being much of a coach until KG, Posey, and Ray showed up
The difference between Simmons and Ordway is that Simmons has talent. I actually want to read what he has to say, and when not so Big O gets on I change the station. I don't need him yelling at me
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The Big show is Obnoxious. I love Bill Simmons but he sounds like he is being too image conscious. I agreed when he talks about EEI turning on people. Pedro and Manny are the best examples.
I like Felger's point where he basically said grow a pair and call these guys out on their own show. I think LA softens you it really does. I have lived out here for about a year and people are so freaking sensitive. Maybe it's just because I think this place sucks and it's hard to find a decent sandwich or slice of pizza without paying $10.
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This is super, super unimportant.
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I like Felger's point where he basically said grow a pair and call these guys out on their own show.
Instead Simmons prefers to "tweet" about it ::)
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This is super, super unimportant.
No. THIS is super super unimportant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzRH3iTQPrk
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I hate Bill Simmons and honestly can't understand how anyone in this blogging community we have backs him.
The guy didn't believe in Doc Rivers as a coach. It's as simple as that. He's always been the pessimistic "debbie the downer" type re: Ainge and Doc (despite their amazing track records).
He's just such the typical idiodic fan, ****ting on the Celtics when they lose and never really praising them too much when they're gelling.
The vast majority of bloggers on this site didn't believe in Doc during our 18 game losing streak, or, for that matter, any other time before the Garnett trade. Let's be honest, here.
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Most of us wanted to fire Doc because he didn't give Gerald Green enough PT.
Sorry about that, Doc.
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what i've always wondered: why does simmons live in LA if his career doesn't keep him there? the sports gal? the clippers? the tacos? maybe it's the weather, cuz it sure ain't the fact that he's a c's fan...
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I hate Bill Simmons and honestly can't understand how anyone in this blogging community we have backs him.
The guy didn't believe in Doc Rivers as a coach. It's as simple as that. He's always been the pessimistic "Debbie the downer" type re: Ainge and Doc (despite their amazing track records).
He's just such the typical idiotic fan, ****ting on the Celtics when they lose and never really praising them too much when they're gelling.
The vast majority of bloggers on this site didn't believe in Doc during our 18 game losing streak, or, for that matter, any other time before the Garnett trade. Let's be honest, here.
I'm not a firm believer of firing your head coach when his team is made up of a bunch mediocre 20 somethings.
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Felger >
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There were staples in KG's knee I tell you...STAPLES! Ooh. Staples, as in Staples Center. Yeah, home of the Lakers. Oh, I mean...I'm the Sports Guy, the one who loves Boston. Yeah, that's right. Just write me that check ESPN.
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So people don't like him because he moved to LA? So if your friend moved to LA you would not like them anymore?
Or they don't like him because he wanted Doc fired... I guarunsheed if you found an old cblog poll of "should we fire Doc" that it would be at least 75% in favor.
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So people don't like him because he moved to LA? So if your friend moved to LA you would not like them anymore?
Or they don't like him because he wanted Doc fired... I guarunsheed if you found an old cblog poll of "should we fire Doc" that it would be at least 75% in favor.
I'll second that. Before the Garnett trade I wanted Doc fired and Danny coaching.
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BS: Apart from his awful, Hollywood navel-gazing tendencies, I tend to find Simmons interesting and intelligent--even when I disagree with him.
WEEI: With the notable exception of the Dale & Holley Show, WEEI is pretty much a non-stop lineup of ignorant blowhards yelling at each other. Listening Dennis & Callahan and The Big Show makes me ashamed to be a Boston sports fan.
ADVANTAGE SIMMONS.
EDIT: No masked profanity.
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This is super, super unimportant.
No. THIS is super super unimportant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzRH3iTQPrk
A Bill Simmons/Big O p---ing match is nowhere near as cute as a sneezing panda.
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This doesn't surprise me at all ... typical Simmons posturing. I honestly don't understand why so many people think Bill is like this Celtics guru ... the guy has been ripping the C's for a long time, bashing the management, touting his own praises above all else, and then trying to claim he's the "Celtics' Number One Fan" ... come on ... time to wake up to what this guy is really about: HIMSELF.
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Speaking of Bill Simmons... he's going to be on Jimmy Kimmel as soon as this current commercial is over... tune in!
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Speaking of Bill Simmons... he's going to be on Jimmy Kimmel as soon as this current commercial is over... tune in!
What a classy guy (gag). Hope he stays in LA.
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Speaking of Bill Simmons... he's going to be on Jimmy Kimmel as soon as this current commercial is over... tune in!
What a classy guy (gag). Hope he stays in LA.
Yeah... I'm 50/50 on Bill Simmons.
As a person I don't like him very much. As a writer I think he's great. I love how unstructured his works are. It's very engaging to read what he writes, in that it feels like you are interacting with him.
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So im late to this story, but I heard a little bit about this on my way home from work.
Apparently Ordway wrote on his facebook page that he was, " The Big O is calling out Bill Simmons for backing out of an interview today."
Simmons replied back via twitter, "Hey WEEI: You were wrong, I did a Boston interview today. With your competition. Rather give them ratings over deceitful scumbags like you."
Now The big Show Facebook says, "The Big O... is still trying to find out which "bosses" at ESPN put the kibosh on our Bill Simmons interview."
Definitely a funny development. I have always said I like WEEI better cause they get the better interviews, but now I dont know this could start a momentum shift.
Bill Simmons calling someone a deceitful scumbag.. interesting.
Pot meet kettle.
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We should make a poll of Glen Ordway vs Bill Simmons, cause I bet the Sports Guy has way more fans and for a reason.
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Which one hits closest to the mark?
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whats the reason I'm not familiar with this other guy since I'm not from the area?
Also would this include the fact that most boston fans are biased when it comes to billy?
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Where is the "I couldn't possibly care less" option?
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I voted for
I dislike them both, but admit Ordway has talent
I'm not familiar with this ordway guy but, he has to have more talent than Billy.
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whats the reason I'm not familiar with this other guy since I'm not from the area?
Also would this include the fact that most boston fans are biased when it comes to billy?
I'm not sure if Boston fans are biased towards him or not. There's been a lot of negativity towards him here that I didn't anticipate.
Ordway (the Big O) is a big dude who is on WEEIs major radio show in the afternoon (The Big Show) who is I guess the major talent/star of that show. He basically yells and is obnoxious. I see him as the Bill O'Reilly of sports shows and never really liked him, but his show is the prime show in the Boston area so obviously someone likes him
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-05qaVRd6k&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkZJtBQo5DU&feature=player_embedded
Ordway bashing the over sensitive Simmons on air.
Ordway > Simmons
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I enjoy both to a certain extent, but couldn't care less as to why they're feuding, or who's telling the truth.
I enjoy the Big Show when they're discussing sports, but most of the time they're either yelling over one another, or they're interrupting callers because they don't like what they have to say. Is it so hard to let somebody finish their statement or question, no matter how absurd it may be? It becomes a contest of who can be the loudest, and Ordway usually wins. Thank goodness for the arrival of 98.5
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-05qaVRd6k&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkZJtBQo5DU&feature=player_embedded
Ordway bashing the over sensitive Simmons on air.
Ordway > Simmons
Thanks they sort of encapsulate my opinion on billy. They also mentioned the Doc article which is #1 on my list of reasons I despise this fraud. Also his views on the NBA and the game of basketball in general are the equivalent of 13 year old Kobe kid.
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Thanks they sort of encapsulate my opinion on billy. They also mentioned the Doc article which is #1 on my list of reasons I despise this fraud. Also his views on the NBA and the game of basketball in general are the equivalent of 13 year old Kobe kid.
It's consistent with what I know of him, too. He's entitled to his opinions, but I just don't like the guy's personality. He's fake, and ridiculously thin-skinned.
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They're both phonies. Ordway thinks he knows something about basketball because he used to carry Johnny Most's ashtray. Simmons also thinks he knows something about basketball, but I'm not sure why. (The only talking heads on the Boston sports scene who actually know something about basketball are the ex-players like Cedric Maxwell and Ryen Rusillo. who, unlike Ordway, has actually taken the time to learn what the collective bargaining agreement says.)
I guess if forced to listen, I'll take Simmons, who is intentionally funny more often than Ordway. But I'm not forced to listen. My radios all have dials.
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Thanks they sort of encapsulate my opinion on billy. They also mentioned the Doc article which is #1 on my list of reasons I despise this fraud. Also his views on the NBA and the game of basketball in general are the equivalent of 13 year old Kobe kid.
It's consistent with what I know of him, too. He's entitled to his opinions, but I just don't like the guy's personality. He's fake, and ridiculously thin-skinned.
What are some examples of Simmons (or Ordway for that matter) being fake and thin skinned? I suppose you could say he doesn't really take what he dishes out (for example he tortured Isiah Thomas, and perhaps Doc, but doesn't want to go on the Big Show, because it won't help his career) but I don't think that's the same as being thin skinned. Also I could definitely understand some resentment of him trying to put himself out there as the ultimate fan, but I'm not sure that's fake or thin skinned either. Maybe hypocritical if he's also trying to be a legit writer.
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Thanks they sort of encapsulate my opinion on billy. They also mentioned the Doc article which is #1 on my list of reasons I despise this fraud. Also his views on the NBA and the game of basketball in general are the equivalent of 13 year old Kobe kid.
It's consistent with what I know of him, too. He's entitled to his opinions, but I just don't like the guy's personality. He's fake, and ridiculously thin-skinned.
What are some examples of Simmons (or Ordway for that matter) being fake and thin skinned? I suppose you could say he doesn't really take what he dishes out (for example he tortured Isiah Thomas, and perhaps Doc, but doesn't want to go on the Big Show, because it won't help his career) but I don't think that's the same as being thin skinned. Also I could definitely understand some resentment of him trying to put himself out there as the ultimate fan, but I'm not sure that's fake or thin skinned either. Maybe hypocritical if he's also trying to be a legit writer.
I've had dealings with Simmons outside of this board. I've been asked not to get into specifics, so I won't. He's a child, though. One of those "I'm taking my ball and going home" type of guys.
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Thanks they sort of encapsulate my opinion on billy. They also mentioned the Doc article which is #1 on my list of reasons I despise this fraud. Also his views on the NBA and the game of basketball in general are the equivalent of 13 year old Kobe kid.
It's consistent with what I know of him, too. He's entitled to his opinions, but I just don't like the guy's personality. He's fake, and ridiculously thin-skinned.
What are some examples of Simmons (or Ordway for that matter) being fake and thin skinned? I suppose you could say he doesn't really take what he dishes out (for example he tortured Isiah Thomas, and perhaps Doc, but doesn't want to go on the Big Show, because it won't help his career) but I don't think that's the same as being thin skinned. Also I could definitely understand some resentment of him trying to put himself out there as the ultimate fan, but I'm not sure that's fake or thin skinned either. Maybe hypocritical if he's also trying to be a legit writer.
I've had dealings with Simmons outside of this board. I've been asked not to get into specifics, so I won't. He's a child, though. One of those "I'm taking my ball and going home" type of guys.
Wow. Eeenteresting. I guess I could see that leading you to dislike him over Ordway whom I assume you haven't met. Also I admit I'm surprised by a couple things here. You were asked (I guess by staff) not to discuss it here, but you are pretty down on him here, and also I have to wonder what on Earth could have happened between you and Simmons, but I guess you've said enough.
But I like. I like.
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I wonder how the poll results would be different if it was given before Simmon's 2008 Finals prediction.
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i voted "hate them both"
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I know its not the first time, but a thread dedicated to guys who give their opinion about sports? Really? If any topic under the sun is on the table, can there be a thread about best bar menu instead? That would actually be an extremely important subject compared to this..
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I don't understand why people are complaining about this thread and saying it's a non topic when it's been in the "Latest Forum Topics" column for pretty much the entire last two days. This isn't just a blog for the Celtics. It is in the "Off Topic" section where it belongs. If you don't think it's important... don't click on it. You don't have to go to every topic and denounce them if they are not worthy of you reading them. This is a blogging community of many different people who happen to want to talk about different things.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-05qaVRd6k&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkZJtBQo5DU&feature=player_embedded
Ordway bashing the over sensitive Simmons on air.
Ordway > Simmons
Thanks they sort of encapsulate my opinion on billy. They also mentioned the Doc article which is #1 on my list of reasons I despise this fraud. Also his views on the NBA and the game of basketball in general are the equivalent of 13 year old Kobe kid.
TP thanks for that. I don't know too much about this "feud" but I've always heard Ordway give lots of Praise to Simmons on his show while I've seen Simmons bash the Big Show many times... Weird
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I voted like them both but within limits. I think that it is also hard to compare them as one is live on the radio talking and the other gets to write, proofread and really think out what he wants to say. But anyway I don't read every one of Simmons' articles and I don't listen to the Big O everyday. Both of them, IMO, are entertaining and in small doses they can be great. Of course I change the channel on Big O sometimes or close out of Simmons' articles sometimes but I keep coming back to see what they both have to say. I do think that Ordway seems like he is generally a nicer guy where SImmons does seem like an arrogant prissy girl sometimes.
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If any topic under the sun is on the table, can there be a thread about best bar menu instead?
Sure, start it up. ;)
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If any topic under the sun is on the table, can there be a thread about best bar menu instead?
Sure, start it up. ;)
Yeah. Totally. I've always wanted to see WBMWJL (what bar menu would Jesus like?) :D
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Once the “Big Show” got wind of his remarks, Ordway anointed Simmons the “fraud of the day.” Simmons fired back on Twitter, telling followers to create fake “Big Show” Twitter accounts. “Wait a second, why feud with big fishes in a small pond? Ordway could never work nationally. Small time. You’re right, bad career move by me,” Simmons tweeted. Simmons, a Hub native and former Herald editorial assistant, said Ordway’s producer later e-mailed him to come on the show to talk about things “diplomatically.” Simmons agreed, but says ESPN execs told him to hold off until things cooled down and he relayed this to Ordway’s producer. On Tuesday, Ordway told listeners Simmons wasn’t coming on and said he had sent the show an e-mail saying that his bosses didn’t want him to go on “anytime soon.” Simmons then called in to Mike Felger and Tony Massarotti’s show on “The Sports Hub” to dish about the “Big Show.” He also lashed out on Twitter. “Hey WEEI: You were wrong, I did a Boston interview today. With your competition,” Simmons wrote. “Rather give them ratings over deceitful scumbags like you.” Ordway took the high road. ‘Bill,” Ordway said last night, “lighten up.” - Bostonherald
It's official: Bill Simmons is a little ****
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If any topic under the sun is on the table, can there be a thread about best bar menu instead?
Sure, start it up. ;)
Yeah. Totally. I've always wanted to see WBMWJL (what bar menu would Jesus like?) :D
Loaves and fishes. What else? And it would all be free.
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no press is bad press...for both parties involved. This "fued" is selling books and boosting ratings. That's all it is.
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I don't understand why people are complaining about this thread and saying it's a non topic when it's been in the "Latest Forum Topics" column for pretty much the entire last two days. This isn't just a blog for the Celtics. It is in the "Off Topic" section where it belongs. If you don't think it's important... don't click on it. You don't have to go to every topic and denounce them if they are not worthy of you reading them. This is a blogging community of many different people who happen to want to talk about different things.
Hahahahahaha, thanks for explaining how blogs work, I truly was confused. I'll let you in on a secret, the complaints are posted to elicit responses exactly like this one, so thanks for taking this so seriously and giving us normal people a laugh.
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I don't understand why people are complaining about this thread and saying it's a non topic when it's been in the "Latest Forum Topics" column for pretty much the entire last two days. This isn't just a blog for the Celtics. It is in the "Off Topic" section where it belongs. If you don't think it's important... don't click on it. You don't have to go to every topic and denounce them if they are not worthy of you reading them. This is a blogging community of many different people who happen to want to talk about different things.
Hahahahahaha, thanks for explaining how blogs work, I truly was confused. I'll let you in on a secret, the complaints are posted to elicit responses exactly like this one, so thanks for taking this so seriously and giving us normal people a laugh.
I don't care about this either but lay off. I promise I'll tell everyone on the board you're t3h 1337est mofo in the world--you don't have to prove it.
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Bill Simmons is serving an ESPN-imposed 2-week suspension.
ESPN Press Release – No one knows the guidelines better than Bill Simmons, and he customarily works within these standards. He also understands, as does everyone else at ESPN, that we regard these guidelines as being equally important when participating in social media. While it’s unfortunate — and sometimes painful — that not everyone outside of ESPN chooses to play by such rules, we choose to hold ourselves to higher standards. Regardless of the provocation, Bill’s communication regarding WEEI fell short of those standards. So we’ve taken appropriate measures.
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Bill Simmons is serving an ESPN-imposed 2-week suspension.
ESPN Press Release – No one knows the guidelines better than Bill Simmons, and he customarily works within these standards. He also understands, as does everyone else at ESPN, that we regard these guidelines as being equally important when participating in social media. While it’s unfortunate — and sometimes painful — that not everyone outside of ESPN chooses to play by such rules, we choose to hold ourselves to higher standards. Regardless of the provocation, Bill’s communication regarding WEEI fell short of those standards. So we’ve taken appropriate measures.
I wonder if this will intensify the Bill Simmons-ESPN feud.