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Re: Shawn Marion might sign for vet min
« Reply #45 on: June 27, 2009, 02:33:07 PM »

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I don't understand why free-agents don't like Boston?  Also I would try to see if they could sign Marion for not all the 5 million so we could sign one or two other players but I doubt that Marion will take less than 5 million even though hoopshype says that he said he'd take the veterans minimum


because basketball is played in the winter, and boston is horrable in the winter.

Alot of contending cities are in warm weather climates.

add into that boston's racial history, and you have a city with awful weather that makes athletes uncomfortable (fairly or not, i happen to think unfraily).



but when the offers match or are close dollar wise, FA's pick the warm weather cities.
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Re: Shawn Marion might sign for vet min
« Reply #46 on: June 27, 2009, 02:50:23 PM »

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The cities past racial issues have nothing to do with ne thing... the team is all black except for Scal and Doc is black... also wouldn't a player who has a chance to win a championship want to go to Boston because out of all those teams we have the best basketball culture and if it is at the cost of a championship I don't think bad weather would be a big deal to a player signing in Boston.
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Re: Shawn Marion might sign for vet min
« Reply #47 on: June 27, 2009, 03:07:47 PM »

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The cities past racial issues have nothing to do with ne thing... the team is all black except for Scal and Doc is black... also wouldn't a player who has a chance to win a championship want to go to Boston because out of all those teams we have the best basketball culture and if it is at the cost of a championship I don't think bad weather would be a big deal to a player signing in Boston.

If you are choosing between 2-3 contenders, all of whom can get you a ring, and the money is similar, you go to the warm weather place with less taxes. It's got nothing to do with race though, that's BS

Re: Shawn Marion might sign for vet min
« Reply #48 on: June 27, 2009, 03:14:50 PM »

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The cities past racial issues have nothing to do with ne thing... the team is all black except for Scal and Doc is black... also wouldn't a player who has a chance to win a championship want to go to Boston because out of all those teams we have the best basketball culture and if it is at the cost of a championship I don't think bad weather would be a big deal to a player signing in Boston.

If you are choosing between 2-3 contenders, all of whom can get you a ring, and the money is similar, you go to the warm weather place with less taxes. It's got nothing to do with race though, that's BS

I think it's BS, you think its BS, but several athletes have told people in the past that boston's racial history has influenced thier decision, so to them it's not BS.

If you want to pretend that doesn't or didn't happen, fine, but it does.
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Re: Shawn Marion might sign for vet min
« Reply #49 on: June 27, 2009, 03:19:16 PM »

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The cities past racial issues have nothing to do with ne thing... the team is all black except for Scal and Doc is black... also wouldn't a player who has a chance to win a championship want to go to Boston because out of all those teams we have the best basketball culture and if it is at the cost of a championship I don't think bad weather would be a big deal to a player signing in Boston.

dozen's of FA's disagree.

If you want a specific recent example, see matt barnes, who went on recored telling reporters it would take "signficantly more money" to gethim to play in a cold weather city (he went to PHX for a discount)

It's not a huge deal for players makng the max, they will go to whoever pays them.

but if your a bench player and you get almost the same offer from orlando and boston, your probley going to move your family to orlando.

I know its hard to wrap our head around as fans, but alot more than just "wow, boston has a fantastic culture and fans!" plays into FA' decisions.
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Re: Shawn Marion might sign for vet min
« Reply #50 on: June 27, 2009, 03:29:48 PM »

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Fantastic team culture... I didn't say anything about fans...
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Re: Shawn Marion might sign for vet min
« Reply #51 on: June 27, 2009, 03:30:39 PM »

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Even though we do have the best fans! lol
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Re: Shawn Marion might sign for vet min
« Reply #52 on: June 27, 2009, 03:36:30 PM »

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and by culture i don't mean what we did in the past but i mean how the players on our team are so professional and how everyone on our team makes each other better.
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Re: Shawn Marion might sign for vet min
« Reply #53 on: June 27, 2009, 04:15:19 PM »

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I wouldn't bet on it.  Free Agents do not like Boston.

Free agents happend to like money in 95% of occasions and the players who pick money don´t care about weather. Others are looking at career-wise move and Celtics are for the next year probably their best bet.
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Re: Shawn Marion might sign for vet min
« Reply #54 on: June 27, 2009, 04:48:44 PM »

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I don't understand why free-agents don't like Boston?  Also I would try to see if they could sign Marion for not all the 5 million so we could sign one or two other players but I doubt that Marion will take less than 5 million even though hoopshype says that he said he'd take the veterans minimum


because basketball is played in the winter, and boston is horrable in the winter.

Alot of contending cities are in warm weather climates.

add into that boston's racial history, and you have a city with awful weather that makes athletes uncomfortable (fairly or not, i happen to think unfraily).



but when the offers match or are close dollar wise, FA's pick the warm weather cities.

Hell, even Garnett didn't want to come here a couple years ago because it would've been no upgrade over the weather of Minnesota. So, his first choice was Phoenix, who thought about swapping Amare, then backed out.

When it's all said and done, Ainge will regret not having bought a pick or making a deal on draft night, we will sign Anthony Parker as our backup sg and a stiff like Pachulia for center, and be crying in our beers when we immediately have to bring our starters back in because the second unit is getting their asses handed to them.

Re: Shawn Marion might sign for vet min
« Reply #55 on: June 27, 2009, 04:50:38 PM »

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When it's all said and done, Ainge will regret not having bought a pick or making a deal on draft night, we will sign Anthony Parker as our backup sg and a stiff like Pachulia for center, and be crying in our beers when we immediately have to bring our starters back in because the second unit is getting their asses handed to them.

We could do MUCH worse than having Zaza and Anthony Parker come off the bench.

Like, uhm...Marbury and Moore.
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Re: Shawn Marion might sign for vet min
« Reply #56 on: June 27, 2009, 04:51:58 PM »

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When it's all said and done, Ainge will regret not having bought a pick or making a deal on draft night, we will sign Anthony Parker as our backup sg and a stiff like Pachulia for center, and be crying in our beers when we immediately have to bring our starters back in because the second unit is getting their asses handed to them.

In fairness, I believe Ainge said early on in his tenure with Boston that the way to build a winner is through the draft and trades, not Free Agency.

Also, nothing is preventing the team from making trades between now and November.  It wasn't as if draft night was the only window.  FA period could create many opptys for trades.  
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Re: Shawn Marion might sign for vet min
« Reply #57 on: June 27, 2009, 04:53:33 PM »

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I don't understand why free-agents don't like Boston?  Also I would try to see if they could sign Marion for not all the 5 million so we could sign one or two other players but I doubt that Marion will take less than 5 million even though hoopshype says that he said he'd take the veterans minimum


because basketball is played in the winter, and boston is horrable in the winter.

Alot of contending cities are in warm weather climates.

add into that boston's racial history, and you have a city with awful weather that makes athletes uncomfortable (fairly or not, i happen to think unfraily).



but when the offers match or are close dollar wise, FA's pick the warm weather cities.

Hell, even Garnett didn't want to come here a couple years ago because it would've been no upgrade over the weather of Minnesota. So, his first choice was Phoenix, who thought about swapping Amare, then backed out.

When it's all said and done, Ainge will regret not having bought a pick or making a deal on draft night, we will sign Anthony Parker as our backup sg and a stiff like Pachulia for center, and be crying in our beers when we immediately have to bring our starters back in because the second unit is getting their asses handed to them.

Pachulia actually would be a very good pick up. Anthony Carter I'm not so high on.

We'd need a scoring wing if Zaza is the big man pickup because he's not a guy that's gonna put up a lot of points.

Re: Shawn Marion might sign for vet min
« Reply #58 on: June 27, 2009, 05:46:26 PM »

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I don't understand why free-agents don't like Boston?  Also I would try to see if they could sign Marion for not all the 5 million so we could sign one or two other players but I doubt that Marion will take less than 5 million even though hoopshype says that he said he'd take the veterans minimum


because basketball is played in the winter, and boston is horrable in the winter.

Alot of contending cities are in warm weather climates.

add into that boston's racial history, and you have a city with awful weather that makes athletes uncomfortable (fairly or not, i happen to think unfraily).



but when the offers match or are close dollar wise, FA's pick the warm weather cities.

Hell, even Garnett didn't want to come here a couple years ago because it would've been no upgrade over the weather of Minnesota. So, his first choice was Phoenix, who thought about swapping Amare, then backed out.

When it's all said and done, Ainge will regret not having bought a pick or making a deal on draft night, we will sign Anthony Parker as our backup sg and a stiff like Pachulia for center, and be crying in our beers when we immediately have to bring our starters back in because the second unit is getting their asses handed to them.

Pachulia actually would be a very good pick up. Anthony Carter I'm not so high on.

We'd need a scoring wing if Zaza is the big man pickup because he's not a guy that's gonna put up a lot of points.

Boston wasn't Garnetts first choice because we didn't have enough good players here for us to be a contender even if he got traded here... until we traded for Ray Allen... Garnett only was thinking of Phoenix first because they had better players until we traded for Ray.
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Re: Shawn Marion might sign for vet min
« Reply #59 on: June 27, 2009, 06:51:59 PM »

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