« Reply #107 on: October 24, 2017, 11:15:59 AM »
Simmons with a triple-double, Embiid with 30. And Fultz increases his tiny sample of suckiness to 4.
Simmons looks very good (although he needs to improve shooting to be a franchise star). Embiid is a franchise star if he says healthy. I am losing confidence in fultz every game. I'll keep beleiving he has a chance to be very good, but I like the trade more every day.
The ROY race is between Simmons and Ball. Nobody else will even come close to challenging those two. They will have all the playing time, opportunity, and media attention to put up the crazy stats, and they are also actually both [dang] good.
What about Tatum? Don't get how a guy putting up huge stats and starting in Boston is behind two potential lottery teams.
I love Tatum, and he will get playing time, but the Celtics play a very team oriented game, and he will not see the shot attempts or get the ball enough to compete with two guys who will be putting up triple-doubles throughout the season. The Celtics would need to challenge for the #1 seed in the East with Tatum playing a major role just for him to even be in consideration imo.
This is why winning ROY is a bit of a misnomer. It is supposed to reflect the potential of the winner to be next superstar in the league, but in reality it is skewed by the fact that lottery teams are usually terrible and so they play their #1 pick a lot. ROY is the least memorable award in the NBA. It would be nice for Tatum to win it, but it doesn't really matter.
The rookie of the year is supposed to reflect the rookie that had the best season. Similar to the MVP in that regard. And while role and team record comes into play, those awards are often statistical based awards. Rookies with the best stats are often high draft picks on bad teams. Just the nature of the beast.
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