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Around the League => Transaction Ideas and Rumors => Topic started by: Tr1boy on January 06, 2013, 07:50:23 PM
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https://twitter.com/rich_levine/status/288080571597475840
"The #Celtics decision to waive Vernado AND Joseph, opens the door for what one league source says may be a "blockbuster" deal." by Sherrod B.
Blockbuster means a big name doesn't it.
Big Al, Milsap, Josh Smith or Cousins?
I don't know why but i have a strange feeling , it might be for Cousins.
To Sac: Sully, Bradley, Melo, 1st round pick
To Bos: Cousins + Fredette
Sac might of changed their mind, after seeing how good Sully has played the past month. =[
Cousins has been on fire lately, but still sac is just a mere avg team and sac has gave up on Fredette it seems. Kid would help doc address a need for a 2nd unit pg and he can really shoot the three. Courtney Lee then can take place of Bradley as that defensive guard guy. Lately he has been doing a very good job.
If it were to happen i would be sad to lose Sully and Bradley the most, but getting Cousins would definitely be huge. With him and Rondo the future would be set (if cousins doesn't cause anymore trouble). Thats the way probably danny sees it , while also have an over the top player to give KG , Pierce and Rondo a legit chance to hoist another trophy while they are still playing together
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Sorry but sherrod B is just being an idiot. He has no source.
Cant stand that guy. Getting people excited over nothing.
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that will be a major mistake by DA if he trades our three best bets for the future for DMC
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Sorry but sherrod B is just being an idiot. He has no source.
Cant stand that guy. Getting people excited over nothing.
I tend to agree, the guy is the worst "insider" ever. He never gets anything right, but hoping he is right about this , we need a center!
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Sorry but sherrod B is just being an idiot. He has no source.
Cant stand that guy. Getting people excited over nothing.
you know what, i was skeptical when i saw the link too. But i don't know. Blakely is better than guys on hoopshype or Chad Ford imo.
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that will be a major mistake by DA if he trades our three best bets for the future for DMC
i do it!! This team isnt going nowhere as it is now w/o a true center
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Lee has a lot of interest they are saying
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Lee has a lot of interest they are saying
A.sherrod has NEVER broken any trade..
that being said, its probably trading Lee for a center....maybe lee for Dalembert or something of that nature.
.certainly not a blockbuster..but we do have a stockpile at shooting guard..Bradley is young enough to play 30+minutes and you also have Terry/Barbosa
Danny is not trading someone like Sullinger for a mediocre talent like Gortat.
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This rumor started on the internet yesterday and is very unsubstantiated and consequently, highly unlikey:
"The Lakers, Celtics, and Kings are reportedly very close to a trade that would send Francisco Garcia and Demarcus Cousins to the Boston Celtics. Marcus Thorton, Chuck Hayes,Thomas Robinson,and Aaron Brooks to the Los Angeles Lakers. Pau Gasol, Avery Bradley, Jason Terry,Jared Sullinger, and two future first round picks from the Celtics to the Sacramento Kings.**The only reason the deal has not happened yet is because the Lakers are being reluctant to accept the offer."
I guess stranger things have happened.
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Man, I hope we keep either Bradley or Sully. We can't lose both of these guys. I would like to keep Bradley the most
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So, the only source for this blockbuster is speculation that the Celtics waived two guys less than 24 hours before tomorrow's deadline?
Sounds pretty weak.
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Lee has a lot of interest they are saying
A.sherrod has NEVER broken any trade..
that being said, its probably trading Lee for a center....maybe lee for Dalembert or something of that nature.
.certainly not a blockbuster..but we do have a stockpile at shooting guard..Bradley is young enough to play 30+minutes and you also have Terry/Barbosa
Danny is not trading someone like Sullinger for a mediocre talent like Gortat.
Gortat is better than Sullinger and we're in win now mode. Sullinger is never going to be a star player. He's a role player at best.
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This rumor started on the internet yesterday and is very unsubstantiated and consequently, highly unlikey:
"The Lakers, Celtics, and Kings are reportedly very close to a trade that would send Francisco Garcia and Demarcus Cousins to the Boston Celtics. Marcus Thorton, Chuck Hayes,Thomas Robinson,and Aaron Brooks to the Los Angeles Lakers. Pau Gasol, Avery Bradley, Jason Terry,Jared Sullinger, and two future first round picks from the Celtics to the Sacramento Kings.**The only reason the deal has not happened yet is because the Lakers are being reluctant to accept the offer."
I guess stranger things have happened.
sorry but this internet trade rumor is definitely possible unsubstantiated or not. Lakers are in immediate need of a change plus get rid of Gasol and the Celtics until a few games ago were in dire need of a change also. Sac has Cousins but the team still remains avg.
Doubt they would stop after this trade , and trade Gasol and Terry for more youth and picks.
Lakers prob are hesistant bc they want to be the team that gets Cousins =]. But Brooks would really help them out right now and Robinson would be a good fit for their up and tempo system.
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I am 100% sure the Celtics are going to do everything in their power to make sure Avery stays put. They are not getting rid of the guy who has re-energized the defense.
In fact what the Celtics are probably going to do is see what happens when Wilcox comes back. They are building up momentum and confidence these last two games. Why make a trade and have to mix it up mid-season?
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This rumor started on the internet yesterday and is very unsubstantiated and consequently, highly unlikey:
"The Lakers, Celtics, and Kings are reportedly very close to a trade that would send Francisco Garcia and Demarcus Cousins to the Boston Celtics. Marcus Thorton, Chuck Hayes,Thomas Robinson,and Aaron Brooks to the Los Angeles Lakers. Pau Gasol, Avery Bradley, Jason Terry,Jared Sullinger, and two future first round picks from the Celtics to the Sacramento Kings.**The only reason the deal has not happened yet is because the Lakers are being reluctant to accept the offer."
I guess stranger things have happened.
sorry but this internet trade rumor is definitely possible unsubstantiated or not. Lakers are in immediate need of a change plus get rid of Gasol and the Celtics until a few games ago were in dire need of a change also. Sac has Cousins but the team still remains avg.
Doubt they would stop after this trade , and trade Gasol and Terry for more youth and picks.
Lakers prob are hesistant bc they want to be the team that gets Cousins =]. But Brooks would really help them out right now and Robinson would be a good fit for their up and tempo system.
that would be a decent trade for the lakers, but they are used to ripping teams off in trades so I can understand them being hesitant.
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Lee has a lot of interest they are saying
A.sherrod has NEVER broken any trade..
that being said, its probably trading Lee for a center....maybe lee for Dalembert or something of that nature.
.certainly not a blockbuster..but we do have a stockpile at shooting guard..Bradley is young enough to play 30+minutes and you also have Terry/Barbosa
Danny is not trading someone like Sullinger for a mediocre talent like Gortat.
Gortat is better than Sullinger and we're in win now mode. Sullinger is never going to be a star player. He's a role player at best.
and Gortat is a star player?? he is a role player as well...people on this site have vastly over-rated his talents
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This rumor started on the internet yesterday and is very unsubstantiated and consequently, highly unlikey:
"The Lakers, Celtics, and Kings are reportedly very close to a trade that would send Francisco Garcia and Demarcus Cousins to the Boston Celtics. Marcus Thorton, Chuck Hayes,Thomas Robinson,and Aaron Brooks to the Los Angeles Lakers. Pau Gasol, Avery Bradley, Jason Terry,Jared Sullinger, and two future first round picks from the Celtics to the Sacramento Kings.**The only reason the deal has not happened yet is because the Lakers are being reluctant to accept the offer."
I guess stranger things have happened.
Scary trade. Feast or famine.
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unnamed sources = made up
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Lee has a lot of interest they are saying
A.sherrod has NEVER broken any trade..
that being said, its probably trading Lee for a center....maybe lee for Dalembert or something of that nature.
.certainly not a blockbuster..but we do have a stockpile at shooting guard..Bradley is young enough to play 30+minutes and you also have Terry/Barbosa
Danny is not trading someone like Sullinger for a mediocre talent like Gortat.
Gortat is better than Sullinger and we're in win now mode. Sullinger is never going to be a star player. He's a role player at best.
and Gortat is a star player?? he is a role player as well...people on this site have vastly over-rated his talents
He's a role player that fits a need we are in desperation of. Trading an undersized power forward for a 6'10/6'11 center who is capable of scoring and rebounding is what we need. Whether it happens is another thing but I'd be for it.
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Lee has a lot of interest they are saying
A.sherrod has NEVER broken any trade..
that being said, its probably trading Lee for a center....maybe lee for Dalembert or something of that nature.
.certainly not a blockbuster..but we do have a stockpile at shooting guard..Bradley is young enough to play 30+minutes and you also have Terry/Barbosa
Danny is not trading someone like Sullinger for a mediocre talent like Gortat.
Gortat is better than Sullinger and we're in win now mode. Sullinger is never going to be a star player. He's a role player at best.
and Gortat is a star player?? he is a role player as well...people on this site have vastly over-rated his talents
He's a role player that fits a need we are in desperation of. Trading an undersized power forward for a 6'10/6'11 center who is capable of scoring and rebounding is what we need. Whether it happens is another thing but I'd be for it.
Sullinger is 6 foot 9 , 260 pounds. Certainly not undersized for a power forward. Possibly oversized I could see.
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Lee would do great in Phoenix
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Lee has a lot of interest they are saying
A.sherrod has NEVER broken any trade..
that being said, its probably trading Lee for a center....maybe lee for Dalembert or something of that nature.
.certainly not a blockbuster..but we do have a stockpile at shooting guard..Bradley is young enough to play 30+minutes and you also have Terry/Barbosa
Danny is not trading someone like Sullinger for a mediocre talent like Gortat.
Gortat is better than Sullinger and we're in win now mode. Sullinger is never going to be a star player. He's a role player at best.
and Gortat is a star player?? he is a role player as well...people on this site have vastly over-rated his talents
He's a role player that fits a need we are in desperation of. Trading an undersized power forward for a 6'10/6'11 center who is capable of scoring and rebounding is what we need. Whether it happens is another thing but I'd be for it.
Sullinger is 6 foot 9 , 260 pounds. Certainly not undersized for a power forward. Possibly oversized I could see.
Look at him next to Pierce, he's not 6'9. Again, I don't hate Sully, he fits a role, and if he stays I'm fine with that, but if we can trade him for a quality center you've gotta do it imo. Everyone thinks different.
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I have to wonder why this unnamed source needs anonymity to say what might or might not happen when the whole world can see that various guys just got waived and who would want to upgrade. The unnamed source doesn't name teams or players or time frames. Wow. This unnamed source seems really on the inside here. This is top notch stuff that nobody could have seen coming without confirmation from "a source".
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I have to wonder why this unnamed source needs anonymity to say what might or might not happen when the whole world can see that various guys just got waived and who would want to upgrade.
Some people have jobs where they would be fined or fired if they publicly commented on a team's possible transactions, even if such moves are obvious.
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I have to wonder why this unnamed source needs anonymity to say what might or might not happen when the whole world can see that various guys just got waived and who would want to upgrade.
Some people have jobs where they would be fined or fired if they publicly commented on a team's possible transactions, even if such moves are obvious.
People breaking the rules for a buck, a favor, or a rise aren't to be trusted. People that we can't prove to exist are also not to be trusted, especially when they carry no news whatsoever. According to a source the guy that broke this story might be fired soon.
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These rumors are quite contradictory. "The celtics waived players to make room for a blockbuster trade" .... yet they are trading away more players than would be coming in under all of these rumored scenarios. You don't need to waive players for that to happen.
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These rumors are quite contradictory. "The celtics waived players to make room for a blockbuster trade" .... yet they are trading away more players than would be coming in under all of these rumored scenarios. You don't need to waive players for that to happen.
It's actually nice to have said players around to be able to help balance out salaries in such trades. But hey. We have "a source" saying this might happen.
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Not buying a trade. I think we will just add Kmart and another big to complete the roster.
If we were to trade then this whole season is doomed. Just when we were picking it up already.
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Sorry but sherrod B is just being an idiot. He has no source.
Cant stand that guy. Getting people excited over nothing.
you know what, i was skeptical when i saw the link too. But i don't know. Blakely is better than guys on hoopshype or Chad Ford imo.
Its not just some guys on hoopshype who report all these rumors. They just have a forum where they choose the most interesting and most credible of rumors that "insiders" report and organize them for people to see.
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If Lee is indeed traded, I would love to sign Delonte. He and Terry have experience playing together in Dallas, plus with Barbosa as our 5th guard, it provides insurance should the often injured Delonte go down.
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These rumors are quite contradictory. "The celtics waived players to make room for a blockbuster trade" .... yet they are trading away more players than would be coming in under all of these rumored scenarios. You don't need to waive players for that to happen.
It's actually nice to have said players around to be able to help balance out salaries in such trades. But hey. We have "a source" saying this might happen.
Yeah. Minimum deals are good, because they count as salary going out, they don't have to count as salary coming in for the acquiring team.
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Trade anyone but Pierce, KG, Bradley, and Green!!!
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Gortat is playing tonight so any rumored deal probably doesn't include him. Or at the very least, if it were involving him, and it were close, he wouldn't be playing tonight.
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If we are really getting Garcia in some deal, I wish we could send out Jeff Green somehow to get other good pieces (or picks). Garcia is perfectly capable of playing 13 min per game behind Pierce in the playoffs and I'm sick of Green playing out of position at the 4.
Rondo 40/Terry (or Barbosa) 8
Lee 25/Terry 23
Pierce 35/Garcia (or Green) 13
KG 20/Bass 25/Wilcox 3
Cousins 30/KG 10/Wilcox 8
Thats a lineup I could be very happy with. If we keep Green, I'd like for him to just play as hard as he can for those 13 mpg and just know that his time will come eventually.
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If we are really getting Garcia in some deal, I wish we could send out Jeff Green somehow to get other good pieces (or picks). Garcia is perfectly capable of playing 13 min per game behind Pierce in the playoffs and I'm sick of Green playing out of position at the 4.
Rondo 40/Terry (or Barbosa) 8
Lee 25/Terry 23
Pierce 35/Garcia (or Green) 13
KG 20/Bass 25/Wilcox 3
Cousins 30/KG 10/Wilcox 8
Thats a lineup I could be very happy with. If we keep Green, I'd like for him to just play as hard as he can for those 13 mpg and just know that his time will come eventually.
I like Green on James more than I like Garcia on him. This is important because it allows Pierce to rest on defense, when Miami goes small, by covering Battier instead of James.
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Sorry but sherrod B is just being an idiot. He has no source.
Cant stand that guy. Getting people excited over nothing.
you know what, i was skeptical when i saw the link too. But i don't know. Blakely is better than guys on hoopshype or Chad Ford imo.
Its not just some guys on hoopshype who report all these rumors. They just have a forum where they choose the most interesting and most credible of rumors that "insiders" report and organize them for people to see.
It must be incredibly difficult for them to choose between "a source" and "a team insider" and "a source within the league" and "multiple sources" and "a source speaking on the condition of anonymity" and "a league source" and "a team source". There are just so many ways to say "completely made up"
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The story sounds like a load of nonsense and it comes from a journalist with little to no credibility. I'm writing it off as garbage. Another in a long line of guesses by Sherrod to attract some attention.
The C's waived two guys they didn't want to pay just before their contracts became guaranteed. End of story. Oh and Sherrod is an idiot. Now, end of story.
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The story sounds like a load of nonsense and it comes from a journalist with little to no credibility. I'm writing it off as garbage. Another in a long line of guesses by Sherrod to attract some attention.
The C's waived two guys they didn't want to pay just before their contracts became guaranteed. End of story. Oh and Sherrod is an idiot. Now, end of story.
Wait wait wait. This Sherrod is an idiot story. I hope you have an unnamed source on that like a good journalist should. Otherwise it would be hard for us to swallow.
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The story sounds like a load of nonsense and it comes from a journalist with little to no credibility. I'm writing it off as garbage. Another in a long line of guesses by Sherrod to attract some attention.
The C's waived two guys they didn't want to pay just before their contracts became guaranteed. End of story. Oh and Sherrod is an idiot. Now, end of story.
That's about right, Forsberg has a better pulse on the situation:
http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/celtics/post/_/id/4700951/rapid-reaction-cs-cut-joseph-varnado
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The story sounds like a load of nonsense and it comes from a journalist with little to no credibility. I'm writing it off as garbage. Another in a long line of guesses by Sherrod to attract some attention.
The C's waived two guys they didn't want to pay just before their contracts became guaranteed. End of story. Oh and Sherrod is an idiot. Now, end of story.
What's more credible Sherrod or Tanguay's gut?
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The story sounds like a load of nonsense and it comes from a journalist with little to no credibility. I'm writing it off as garbage. Another in a long line of guesses by Sherrod to attract some attention.
The C's waived two guys they didn't want to pay just before their contracts became guaranteed. End of story. Oh and Sherrod is an idiot. Now, end of story.
That's about right, Forsberg has a better pulse on the situation:
http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/celtics/post/_/id/4700951/rapid-reaction-cs-cut-joseph-varnado
Good stuff. Sherrod jumped the gun.
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Well... holy crap...
NBA on NBC Boston @NBAonNBCBoston
Sources close to http://nbaonnbc.com confirm that Danny Ainge is working to complete a deal to bring Cousins to Boston, tonight.
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Well... holy crap...
NBA on NBC Boston @NBAonNBCBoston
Sources close to http://nbaonnbc.com confirm that Danny Ainge is working to complete a deal to bring Cousins to Boston, tonight.
Dang it, now I'm interested.
EDIT: Patrick Gilroy seems to be the source of that tweet. He also writes...
Sources say Danny Ainge dangling Green, Terry, Sullinger and Lee in an effort to land Cousins and Garcia"
However, Green can't be traded until the 15th.
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NBA on NBC Boston @NBAonNBCBoston
#Celtics' official press release on waiving of Kris Joseph, Jarvis Varnado: http://www.nba.com/celtics/news/press_release/celtics-waive-joseph-and-varnado … #NBA
11m NBA on NBC Boston @NBAonNBCBoston
NBA on NBC: #Celtics Release Kris Joseph, Jarvis Varnado: Big Trade Coming? http://www.nbaonnbc.com/profiles/blogs/celtics-release-kris-joseph-jarvis-varnado-big-trade-coming …
17m NBA on NBC Boston @NBAonNBCBoston
NOT here to stir the pot. Just passing along rumblings from reputable sources. Bradley a sticking point. TBD.
57m NBA on NBC Boston @NBAonNBCBoston
Celtics trying to trade Lee, teams demanding Bradley....ainge conflicted
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NBA on NBC Boston @NBAonNBCBoston
#Celtics' official press release on waiving of Kris Joseph, Jarvis Varnado: http://www.nba.com/celtics/news/press_release/celtics-waive-joseph-and-varnado … #NBA
11m NBA on NBC Boston @NBAonNBCBoston
NBA on NBC: #Celtics Release Kris Joseph, Jarvis Varnado: Big Trade Coming? http://www.nbaonnbc.com/profiles/blogs/celtics-release-kris-joseph-jarvis-varnado-big-trade-coming …
17m NBA on NBC Boston @NBAonNBCBoston
NOT here to stir the pot. Just passing along rumblings from reputable sources. Bradley a sticking point. TBD.
57m NBA on NBC Boston @NBAonNBCBoston
Celtics trying to trade Lee, teams demanding Bradley....ainge conflicted
Err, I hope these idiots are not using Sherrod as a source though as used in the column...
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NBA on NBC Boston @NBAonNBCBoston
#Celtics' official press release on waiving of Kris Joseph, Jarvis Varnado: http://www.nba.com/celtics/news/press_release/celtics-waive-joseph-and-varnado … #NBA
11m NBA on NBC Boston @NBAonNBCBoston
NBA on NBC: #Celtics Release Kris Joseph, Jarvis Varnado: Big Trade Coming? http://www.nbaonnbc.com/profiles/blogs/celtics-release-kris-joseph-jarvis-varnado-big-trade-coming …
17m NBA on NBC Boston @NBAonNBCBoston
NOT here to stir the pot. Just passing along rumblings from reputable sources. Bradley a sticking point. TBD.
57m NBA on NBC Boston @NBAonNBCBoston
Celtics trying to trade Lee, teams demanding Bradley....ainge conflicted
Err, I hope these idiots are not using Sherrod as a source though as used in the column...
It sounds like they are - from that second link
After the news broke about the release of Joseph and Varnado, speculation began that the Celtics may be positioning themselves to make a big trade. A. Sherrod Blakely of Comcast SportsNet New England first reported that his sources said these moves could pave the way for a "blockbuster" deal.
#Celticstalk: The #Celtics decision to waive Varnado AND Joseph, opens the door for what one league source says may be a "blockbuster" deal.
— A. Sherrod Blakely (@SherrodbCSN) January 7, 2013
It sounds like they are basing it on Sherrod's story.
At the top of the article, the writer says according to multiple reports rather than sources. Sounds like he isn't clued in and is just working off what others are writing.
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Interstingly Laker fans love the idea of this trade:
http://forums.lakersground.net/viewtopic.php?t=154876&start=0
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NBA on NBC Boston @NBAonNBCBoston
#Celtics' official press release on waiving of Kris Joseph, Jarvis Varnado: http://www.nba.com/celtics/news/press_release/celtics-waive-joseph-and-varnado … #NBA
11m NBA on NBC Boston @NBAonNBCBoston
NBA on NBC: #Celtics Release Kris Joseph, Jarvis Varnado: Big Trade Coming? http://www.nbaonnbc.com/profiles/blogs/celtics-release-kris-joseph-jarvis-varnado-big-trade-coming …
17m NBA on NBC Boston @NBAonNBCBoston
NOT here to stir the pot. Just passing along rumblings from reputable sources. Bradley a sticking point. TBD.
57m NBA on NBC Boston @NBAonNBCBoston
Celtics trying to trade Lee, teams demanding Bradley....ainge conflicted
Err, I hope these idiots are not using Sherrod as a source though as used in the column...
It sounds like they are - from that second link
After the news broke about the release of Joseph and Varnado, speculation began that the Celtics may be positioning themselves to make a big trade. A. Sherrod Blakely of Comcast SportsNet New England first reported that his sources said these moves could pave the way for a "blockbuster" deal.
#Celticstalk: The #Celtics decision to waive Varnado AND Joseph, opens the door for what one league source says may be a "blockbuster" deal.
— A. Sherrod Blakely (@SherrodbCSN) January 7, 2013
It sounds like they are basing it on Sherrod's story.
It sounds like a big game of telephone started by guys with no sources and who don't understand the CBA.
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NBA on NBC Boston @NBAonNBCBoston
#Celtics' official press release on waiving of Kris Joseph, Jarvis Varnado: http://www.nba.com/celtics/news/press_release/celtics-waive-joseph-and-varnado … #NBA
11m NBA on NBC Boston @NBAonNBCBoston
NBA on NBC: #Celtics Release Kris Joseph, Jarvis Varnado: Big Trade Coming? http://www.nbaonnbc.com/profiles/blogs/celtics-release-kris-joseph-jarvis-varnado-big-trade-coming …
17m NBA on NBC Boston @NBAonNBCBoston
NOT here to stir the pot. Just passing along rumblings from reputable sources. Bradley a sticking point. TBD.
57m NBA on NBC Boston @NBAonNBCBoston
Celtics trying to trade Lee, teams demanding Bradley....ainge conflicted
Err, I hope these idiots are not using Sherrod as a source though as used in the column...
It sounds like they are - from that second link
After the news broke about the release of Joseph and Varnado, speculation began that the Celtics may be positioning themselves to make a big trade. A. Sherrod Blakely of Comcast SportsNet New England first reported that his sources said these moves could pave the way for a "blockbuster" deal.
#Celticstalk: The #Celtics decision to waive Varnado AND Joseph, opens the door for what one league source says may be a "blockbuster" deal.
— A. Sherrod Blakely (@SherrodbCSN) January 7, 2013
It sounds like they are basing it on Sherrod's story.
I wonder where he got the "close deal tonight" aspect of it though.
Here's what he said in latest tweet:
@NBAonNBCBoston simply passing along same info heard and reported by others A.Sherrod included that Celtics have targeted Cousins.
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Celtics have high interest in Rudy Gay and could be paving the way for an all out pursuit of the all-star.
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NBA on NBC Boston @NBAonNBCBoston
#Celtics' official press release on waiving of Kris Joseph, Jarvis Varnado: http://www.nba.com/celtics/news/press_release/celtics-waive-joseph-and-varnado … #NBA
11m NBA on NBC Boston @NBAonNBCBoston
NBA on NBC: #Celtics Release Kris Joseph, Jarvis Varnado: Big Trade Coming? http://www.nbaonnbc.com/profiles/blogs/celtics-release-kris-joseph-jarvis-varnado-big-trade-coming …
17m NBA on NBC Boston @NBAonNBCBoston
NOT here to stir the pot. Just passing along rumblings from reputable sources. Bradley a sticking point. TBD.
57m NBA on NBC Boston @NBAonNBCBoston
Celtics trying to trade Lee, teams demanding Bradley....ainge conflicted
Err, I hope these idiots are not using Sherrod as a source though as used in the column...
It sounds like they are - from that second link
After the news broke about the release of Joseph and Varnado, speculation began that the Celtics may be positioning themselves to make a big trade. A. Sherrod Blakely of Comcast SportsNet New England first reported that his sources said these moves could pave the way for a "blockbuster" deal.
#Celticstalk: The #Celtics decision to waive Varnado AND Joseph, opens the door for what one league source says may be a "blockbuster" deal.
— A. Sherrod Blakely (@SherrodbCSN) January 7, 2013
It sounds like they are basing it on Sherrod's story.
It sounds like a big game of telephone started by guys with no sources and who don't understand the CBA.
This pretty much nails it down for me ... nothing solid enough to get very excited about, (yet).
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Celtics have high interest in Rudy Gay and could be paving the way for an all out pursuit of the all-star.
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Roy Hobbs' imagination (@TheNaturalTwitter)
Celtics are on the verge of landing Lebron James and Chris Paul in a 3-way blockbuster. #totallycredible #nbasource
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Not another shooter.
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Celtics have high interest in Rudy Gay and could be paving the way for an all out pursuit of the all-star.
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Roy Hobbs' imagination (@TheNaturalTwitter)
Celtics are on the verge of landing Lebron James and Chris Paul in a 3-way blockbuster. #totallycredible #nbasource
Shoulda citied credible or anonymous sources
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Maybe we're getting ready to dump Green's contract in a 1 for 3 swap :)
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Looks like Wojnarowski was on NBC radio tonight, now that would be a reliable source IMO
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
About to jump on the debut of the @ChrisMannixShow on the NBC Sports Radio Network.
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@Rebuswildimagination
Celtics close to a deal for Paul and Griffen for Terry, Barbosa, Collins and Lucky. Sticking point is including Lucky.
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Celtics have high interest in Rudy Gay and could be paving the way for an all out pursuit of the all-star.
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Celtics are on the verge of landing Lebron James and Chris Paul in a 3-way blockbuster. #totallycredible #nbasource
u stay trynna throw shots at me boy, sports legion is actually a credible source have a seat.....
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In ova blockbuster trade news
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Celtics have high interest in Rudy Gay and could be paving the way for an all out pursuit of the all-star.
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Celtics are on the verge of landing Lebron James and Chris Paul in a 3-way blockbuster. #totallycredible #nbasource
Shoulda citied credible or anonymous sources
Chris Broussard-lite without ESPN connection.
Basketball Jones Skit:
http://vimeo.com/13186149
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NBA on NBC Boston @NBAonNBCBoston
IMPORTANT to remember, @NBAonNBCBoston has simply passed along rumblings also heard by many others. That. Is. All.
What a joke this person is.
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In ova blockbuster trade news
Legion Sports @MySportsLegion
Celtics have high interest in Rudy Gay and could be paving the way for an all out pursuit of the all-star.
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Roy Hobbs' imagination (@TheNaturalTwitter)
Celtics are on the verge of landing Lebron James and Chris Paul in a 3-way blockbuster. #totallycredible #nbasource
u stay trynna throw shots at me boy, sports legion is actually a credible source have a seat.....
Sorry, "boy", but slow your roll.
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That three-way with the Lakers looks legit. Lakers really want to dump Gasol and could do worse than that haul. I would do that deal in a heartbeat. Sure AB would be tough to lose but we're not going to land Cousins without him IMHO.
PULL THE TRIGGER..
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Multiple sources say
@basketball3274239842 tweets
Deal is done
Boston gets Cousins and Tyreke
Sacramento gets screwed
Lakers falls off the radar
@dontevertrusttweets
#tradedeadline
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@Rebuswildimagination
Celtics close to a deal for Paul and Griffen for Terry, Barbosa, Collins and Lucky. Sticking point is including Lucky.
Everyone knows I'll retire before going to LA.
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@Rebuswildimagination
Celtics close to a deal for Paul and Griffen for Terry, Barbosa, Collins and Lucky. Sticking point is including Lucky.
no no no no....not lucky. say it aint so danny!!!!!!! maybe hey would take rondo instead?
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That three-way with the Lakers looks legit. Lakers really want to dump Gasol and could do worse than that haul. I would do that deal in a heartbeat. Sure AB would be tough to lose but we're not going to land Cousins without him IMHO.
PULL THE TRIGGER..
I don't buy the rumor, but to play along, I think giving up Bradley, Sully, two #1s (presumably 2013 and 2015), and Terry would be a pretty heavy price.
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That three-way with the Lakers looks legit. Lakers really want to dump Gasol and could do worse than that haul. I would do that deal in a heartbeat. Sure AB would be tough to lose but we're not going to land Cousins without him IMHO.
PULL THE TRIGGER..
I don't buy the rumor, but to play along, I think giving up Bradley, Sully, two #1s (presumably 2013 and 2015), and Terry would be a pretty heavy price.
I agree. I could also imagine Rondo going off the deep end if we trade Bradley. He seems really high on playing with AB in the backcourt.
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K why do we obsess over internet rumors? We've only heard from this random guy from NBA on NBC Boston and A. Sherrod Blakely. Not exactly rock solid insiders.
Until the likes of a wojnarowski or a bucher report this happening take everything with a grain of salt.
For all we know this guy made this up because he wants attention. We've seen it before. Remember that guy on the realgm boards who said Ray was coming back?!
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http://nesn.com/2013/01/report-celtics-working-on-deal-to-bring-kings-center-demarcus-cousins-to-boston/
Jeff Green, Jason Terry, Jared Sullinger and Courtney Lee have been packaged in an offer for Cousins, the website reports. The inclusion of Avery Bradley appears to be a sticking point.
This makes little sense to me as reported.
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http://nesn.com/2013/01/report-celtics-working-on-deal-to-bring-kings-center-demarcus-cousins-to-boston/
Jeff Green, Jason Terry, Jared Sullinger and Courtney Lee have been packaged in an offer for Cousins, the website reports. The inclusion of Avery Bradley appears to be a sticking point.
This makes little sense to me as reported.
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Green isn't going anywhere until the 15th.
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http://nesn.com/2013/01/report-celtics-working-on-deal-to-bring-kings-center-demarcus-cousins-to-boston/
Jeff Green, Jason Terry, Jared Sullinger and Courtney Lee have been packaged in an offer for Cousins, the website reports. The inclusion of Avery Bradley appears to be a sticking point.
This makes little sense to me as reported.
What a crock. There's so much wrong with that.
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http://nesn.com/2013/01/report-celtics-working-on-deal-to-bring-kings-center-demarcus-cousins-to-boston/
Jeff Green, Jason Terry, Jared Sullinger and Courtney Lee have been packaged in an offer for Cousins, the website reports. The inclusion of Avery Bradley appears to be a sticking point.
This makes little sense to me as reported.
(http://www.targotennisberg.com/tarkvara/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/telephone_game.jpg)
Green isn't going anywhere until the 15th.
Agreed, but considering that the 15th is little ways away, can't Ainge basically just "close" the deal right now?
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http://nesn.com/2013/01/report-celtics-working-on-deal-to-bring-kings-center-demarcus-cousins-to-boston/
Jeff Green, Jason Terry, Jared Sullinger and Courtney Lee have been packaged in an offer for Cousins, the website reports. The inclusion of Avery Bradley appears to be a sticking point.
This makes little sense to me as reported.
even if the boston side is true, i dont get why joseph and varnado were waived. is sac sending back cousins and 6 duds players?
not even sure how salary would work on this either.
oh well, it was entertaining while it lasted.
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http://nesn.com/2013/01/report-celtics-working-on-deal-to-bring-kings-center-demarcus-cousins-to-boston/
Jeff Green, Jason Terry, Jared Sullinger and Courtney Lee have been packaged in an offer for Cousins, the website reports. The inclusion of Avery Bradley appears to be a sticking point.
This makes little sense to me as reported.
So the Celtics can't send out $25 milion in salary and take just $4 million back?
NESN is embarrassing itself by publishing this.
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http://nesn.com/2013/01/report-celtics-working-on-deal-to-bring-kings-center-demarcus-cousins-to-boston/
Jeff Green, Jason Terry, Jared Sullinger and Courtney Lee have been packaged in an offer for Cousins, the website reports. The inclusion of Avery Bradley appears to be a sticking point.
This makes little sense to me as reported.
So the Celtics can't send out $25 milion in salary and take just $4 million back?
NESN is embarrassing itself by publishing this.
Yeah, makes no sense... I think what they meant to say is that all those players have been involved in one packager or another offered. Not all at the same time.
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That three-way with the Lakers looks legit. Lakers really want to dump Gasol and could do worse than that haul. I would do that deal in a heartbeat. Sure AB would be tough to lose but we're not going to land Cousins without him IMHO.
PULL THE TRIGGER..
I don't buy the rumor, but to play along, I think giving up Bradley, Sully, two #1s (presumably 2013 and 2015), and Terry would be a pretty heavy price.
I agree. I could also imagine Rondo going off the deep end if we trade Bradley. He seems really high on playing with AB in the backcourt.
Yeah ... I know it's always great to strengthen our chances for this year's playoffs, but we've got to work on the future here, and a Rondo/Bradley/Sully core has a huge amount of potential, and some sweet chemistry that seems to be developing well. I'd really love to keep those three guys together to build around when Paul and KG retire.
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K why do we obsess over internet rumors? We've only heard from this random guy from NBA on NBC Boston and A. Sherrod Blakely. Not exactly rock solid insiders.
Until the likes of a wojnarowski or a bucher report this happening take everything with a grain of salt.
For all we know this guy made this up because he wants attention. We've seen it before. Remember that guy on the realgm boards who said Ray was coming back?!
Deli guy?
;)
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Giving up Terry takes away one of our two clutch go-to scorers.
Taking away Bradley and/or Sullinger snatches the young future of this team.
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So if this is correct we have to assume that this trade goes through on the 15th of January, even though it is reported to be completed possibly tonight and that since Green, Lee, terry and Sully are gone that we will be receiving somewhere in the order of $19 million back in salary which just so happens to add up to
Cousins
Evans
Garcia.
Yeah, not buying it even a little bit.
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To play devil's advocate...What if it's Rondo that we are trading instead?
C's
Cousins
Evans
Garcia
Thomas
Kings
Rondo
Lee
Melo
1st Rd Picks in 2013 and 2015
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bg6d6dz
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To play devil's advocate...What if it's Rondo that we are trading instead?
C's
Cousins
Evans
Garcia
Thomas
Kings
Rondo
Lee
Melo
1st Rd Picks in 2013 and 2015
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bg6d6dz
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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To play devil's advocate...What if it's Rondo that we are trading instead?
C's
Cousins
Evans
Garcia
Thomas
Kings
Rondo
Lee
Melo
1st Rd Picks in 2013 and 2015
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bg6d6dz
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Really? Why? Is that not a great return? Evans and Thomas are 23 and Cousins is 22. Add that to our young core of Green, Bradley, and Sullinger and that's some serious young talent.
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To play devil's advocate...What if it's Rondo that we are trading instead?
C's
Cousins
Evans
Garcia
Thomas
Kings
Rondo
Lee
Melo
1st Rd Picks in 2013 and 2015
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bg6d6dz
Rondo is by far the best player in that trade so no thanks. Seeing as you've included picks aswell, definitely no.
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I think giving up Bradley, Sully, two #1s (presumably 2013 and 2015), and Terry would be a pretty heavy price.
This was my first thought. Too much.
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To play devil's advocate...What if it's Rondo that we are trading instead?
C's
Cousins
Evans
Garcia
Thomas
Kings
Rondo
Lee
Melo
1st Rd Picks in 2013 and 2015
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bg6d6dz
Rondo is by far the best player in that trade so no thanks. Seeing as you've included picks aswell, definitely no.
I wouldn't say "by far". But clearly Cousins and Evans are the 2nd and 3rd best players in the deal and a strong case could be made that Thomas is better than Lee. 2013 is going to be a bad draft class and who knows what 2015 will look like yet.
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From everything going so far i can accept
1. "blockbuster" trade(s) in the making
2. Sadly have to give up Sully and Bradley to get a the "big" addition
3. Green, Terry, Lee were added to make our team that much better than last years. So far , they have failed to live up to expectations. No threes from Lee, Terry and no consistent 10-15 points a game from Green
What doesn't add up
1. Cousins has been playing like a player that is possessed for a good 5 games now. avg something like 20 points, 10 rebounds, 5 assists, 3 blocks. He has played better than ever since his suspension and Sac is 6-4 the past 10(even beating us). So if your sac , now you trade him?
2. Jeff Green, Terry, Lee can't be traded until the 15th. Also why in heavens would Sac want to be stuck with these guys for another 3 to 5 years with what they have shown so far this year.
What must be going crazy now are the players head. Guys like Terry leaving doc and ainge messages. I can see him ask them , what about the tattoo he got of the lep holding up the trophy lol.
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From everything going so far i can accept
1. "blockbuster" trade(s) in the making
2. Sadly have to give up Sully and Bradley to get a the "big" addition
3. Green, Terry, Lee were added to make our team that much better than last years. So far , they have failed to live up to expectations. No threes from Lee, Terry and no consistent 10-15 points a game from Green
What doesn't add up
1. Cousins has been playing like a player that is possessed for a good 5 games now. avg something like 20 points, 10 rebounds, 5 assists, 3 blocks. He has played better than ever since his suspension and Sac is 6-4 the past 10. (even beating us)
2. Jeff Green, Terry, Lee can't be traded until the 15th. Also why in heavens would Sac want to be stuck with these guys for another 3 to 5 years with what they have shown so far this year.
What must be going crazy now are the players head. Guys like Terry leaving doc and ainge messages. I can see him ask them , what about the tattoo he got of the lep holding up the trophy lol.
Jeff Green and Brandon Bass are the only players who can't ne traded until the 15th
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What must be going crazy now are the players head. Guys like Terry leaving doc and ainge messages. I can see him ask them , what about the tattoo he got of the lep holding up the trophy lol.
The players probably (hopefully) don't follow silly internet rumors from random "sources". If they do, their first call should be to their agents, who will set them straight about this nonsense.
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That three-way with the Lakers looks legit. Lakers really want to dump Gasol and could do worse than that haul. I would do that deal in a heartbeat. Sure AB would be tough to lose but we're not going to land Cousins without him IMHO.
PULL THE TRIGGER..
I don't buy the rumor, but to play along, I think giving up Bradley, Sully, two #1s (presumably 2013 and 2015), and Terry would be a pretty heavy price.
I agree. I could also imagine Rondo going off the deep end if we trade Bradley. He seems really high on playing with AB in the backcourt.
Yeah ... I know it's always great to strengthen our chances for this year's playoffs, but we've got to work on the future here, and a Rondo/Bradley/Sully core has a huge amount of potential, and some sweet chemistry that seems to be developing well. I'd really love to keep those three guys together to build around when Paul and KG retire.
Build around Rondo, AB and Sully? :o
Dude AB and Sully are not going to be stars in this league, they're not. They're just role players, I don't see AB every becoming anything that great besides Tony Allen with a better jumpshot aka a Aaron Affalo. Sully is a role player at best. Who are you kidding?
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That three-way with the Lakers looks legit. Lakers really want to dump Gasol and could do worse than that haul. I would do that deal in a heartbeat. Sure AB would be tough to lose but we're not going to land Cousins without him IMHO.
PULL THE TRIGGER..
I don't buy the rumor, but to play along, I think giving up Bradley, Sully, two #1s (presumably 2013 and 2015), and Terry would be a pretty heavy price.
I agree. I could also imagine Rondo going off the deep end if we trade Bradley. He seems really high on playing with AB in the backcourt.
Yeah ... I know it's always great to strengthen our chances for this year's playoffs, but we've got to work on the future here, and a Rondo/Bradley/Sully core has a huge amount of potential, and some sweet chemistry that seems to be developing well. I'd really love to keep those three guys together to build around when Paul and KG retire.
Build around Rondo, AB and Sully? :o
Dude AB and Sully are not going to be stars in this league, they're not. They're just role players, I don't see AB every becoming anything that great besides Tony Allen with a better jumpshot aka a Aaron Affalo. Sully is a role player at best. Who are you kidding?
Well, Affalo *was* the key piece for Orlando in the D12 deal, right? :o
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That three-way with the Lakers looks legit. Lakers really want to dump Gasol and could do worse than that haul. I would do that deal in a heartbeat. Sure AB would be tough to lose but we're not going to land Cousins without him IMHO.
PULL THE TRIGGER..
I don't buy the rumor, but to play along, I think giving up Bradley, Sully, two #1s (presumably 2013 and 2015), and Terry would be a pretty heavy price.
I agree. I could also imagine Rondo going off the deep end if we trade Bradley. He seems really high on playing with AB in the backcourt.
Yeah ... I know it's always great to strengthen our chances for this year's playoffs, but we've got to work on the future here, and a Rondo/Bradley/Sully core has a huge amount of potential, and some sweet chemistry that seems to be developing well. I'd really love to keep those three guys together to build around when Paul and KG retire.
Build around Rondo, AB and Sully? :o
Dude AB and Sully are not going to be stars in this league, they're not. They're just role players, I don't see AB every becoming anything that great besides Tony Allen with a better jumpshot aka a Aaron Affalo. Sully is a role player at best. Who are you kidding?
Kidding?
No one, Dude ... you're entitled to your opinion, as I am mine.
Time will tell, I guess, but IMO you're selling both Sully and AB, (one of the best defensive guards in the NBA), way short.
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I'd wait till Woj reports it.
He's, to me, the most credible man in this thing. If this is indeed a blockbuster, I'm pretty sure he will have his hands on it
Definitely interesting though. But I will not give in to these rumors until Woj reports it.
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Sam Amick @sam_amick
DeMarcus Cousins is not going to the Celtics. Teams continue to be told that he's not available. That is all.
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Sam Amick @sam_amick
DeMarcus Cousins is not going to the Celtics. Teams continue to be told that he's not available. That is all.
Yeah I honestly don't see them moving him for any of the rumored packages I've seen.
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Sam Amick @sam_amick
DeMarcus Cousins is not going to the Celtics. Teams continue to be told that he's not available. That is all.
Amick has a very strong track record and one of the most plugged in NBA reporters - especially with Kings news even since he left the Sacramento beat a few years back. I'll take his word over any other 'source' that has posted rumors on twitter etc...
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Sam Amick @sam_amick
DeMarcus Cousins is not going to the Celtics. Teams continue to be told that he's not available. That is all.
Amick has a very strong track record and one of the most plugged in NBA reporters - especially with Kings news even since he left the Sacramento beat a few years back. I'll take his word over any other 'source' that has posted rumors on twitter etc...
I thought he deleted that tweet never mind
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Sam Amick @sam_amick
DeMarcus Cousins is not going to the Celtics. Teams continue to be told that he's not available. That is all.
Amick has a very strong track record and one of the most plugged in NBA reporters - especially with Kings news even since he left the Sacramento beat a few years back. I'll take his word over any other 'source' that has posted rumors on twitter etc...
I thought he deleted that tweet never mind
::CLOSE THREAD::
lol
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That three-way with the Lakers looks legit. Lakers really want to dump Gasol and could do worse than that haul. I would do that deal in a heartbeat. Sure AB would be tough to lose but we're not going to land Cousins without him IMHO.
PULL THE TRIGGER..
I don't buy the rumor, but to play along, I think giving up Bradley, Sully, two #1s (presumably 2013 and 2015), and Terry would be a pretty heavy price.
I agree. I could also imagine Rondo going off the deep end if we trade Bradley. He seems really high on playing with AB in the backcourt.
Yeah ... I know it's always great to strengthen our chances for this year's playoffs, but we've got to work on the future here, and a Rondo/Bradley/Sully core has a huge amount of potential, and some sweet chemistry that seems to be developing well. I'd really love to keep those three guys together to build around when Paul and KG retire.
Build around Rondo, AB and Sully? :o
Dude AB and Sully are not going to be stars in this league, they're not. They're just role players, I don't see AB every becoming anything that great besides Tony Allen with a better jumpshot aka a Aaron Affalo. Sully is a role player at best. Who are you kidding?
Agree build around Bradley and Sully. Guaranteed lotto
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We should really understand one thing...if ever there were to be a "blockbuster" trade in the works, the first person to break this news WOULD NOT BE SHERROD BLAKELY.
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That three-way with the Lakers looks legit. Lakers really want to dump Gasol and could do worse than that haul. I would do that deal in a heartbeat. Sure AB would be tough to lose but we're not going to land Cousins without him IMHO.
PULL THE TRIGGER..
I don't buy the rumor, but to play along, I think giving up Bradley, Sully, two #1s (presumably 2013 and 2015), and Terry would be a pretty heavy price.
I agree. I could also imagine Rondo going off the deep end if we trade Bradley. He seems really high on playing with AB in the backcourt.
Yeah ... I know it's always great to strengthen our chances for this year's playoffs, but we've got to work on the future here, and a Rondo/Bradley/Sully core has a huge amount of potential, and some sweet chemistry that seems to be developing well. I'd really love to keep those three guys together to build around when Paul and KG retire.
Build around Rondo, AB and Sully? :o
Dude AB and Sully are not going to be stars in this league, they're not. They're just role players, I don't see AB every becoming anything that great besides Tony Allen with a better jumpshot aka a Aaron Affalo. Sully is a role player at best. Who are you kidding?
Agree build around Bradley and Sully. Guaranteed lotto
It's not "build around Bradley and Sully." It's build around Rondo, Bradley, and Sully. There's a fairly significant difference there.
It's like saying the Cavs are building around Dion Waiters and Tristan Thompson.
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It's hard believing that Ainge would be hesitant to include Avery in a deal if that's the deal breaker.
Makes me think that these rumors are bogus.
I don't know if anyone's been watching the Kings lately, but Cousins has the potential to be the best center in the NBA. If we paired him with KG in the paint, and Rondo on offense. My god we'd be scary. We'd be gambling our future of decent players in Sully and Avery for a guy who has the size and athleticism and strength to that of David Robinson. This sounds like an over reaction but I've watched him play the last 5 games and he's been unstoppable in the paint.
He has amazing hands and a finesse combined with strength that you rarely see. He can even shoot too- although he's been steered away from that recently.
Amazing to think what we could become if we had this guy and KG could mold him. Wow. You have to give up Avery and Sully to get this guy, we'd still be robbing them and I can't see how they'd even think about dumping him even if he's a locker room nightmare- he's the only thing worth watching for Kings fans.
If you have league pass online just watch the Cousins highlights in the last 5 games, he's playing like a starting All Star center.
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That three-way with the Lakers looks legit. Lakers really want to dump Gasol and could do worse than that haul. I would do that deal in a heartbeat. Sure AB would be tough to lose but we're not going to land Cousins without him IMHO.
PULL THE TRIGGER..
I don't buy the rumor, but to play along, I think giving up Bradley, Sully, two #1s (presumably 2013 and 2015), and Terry would be a pretty heavy price.
I agree. I could also imagine Rondo going off the deep end if we trade Bradley. He seems really high on playing with AB in the backcourt.
Yeah ... I know it's always great to strengthen our chances for this year's playoffs, but we've got to work on the future here, and a Rondo/Bradley/Sully core has a huge amount of potential, and some sweet chemistry that seems to be developing well. I'd really love to keep those three guys together to build around when Paul and KG retire.
Build around Rondo, AB and Sully? :o
Dude AB and Sully are not going to be stars in this league, they're not. They're just role players, I don't see AB every becoming anything that great besides Tony Allen with a better jumpshot aka a Aaron Affalo. Sully is a role player at best. Who are you kidding?
Agree build around Bradley and Sully. Guaranteed lotto
I don't think its guaranteed lotto, I think it's an okay playoff contender, making the East semis every now and then.
But getting Cousins paired with Rondo after 2 years of KG in his ear- we could have the best 1-2 punch in the NBA if it worked out. Cousins is just freakishly gifted. He's 21 and as I said in another thread, I haven't seen a center this talented, with footwork and strength like this kid since David Robinson.
I mean when he's at his best he really is the most talented offensive center in the league.
Even Magic Johnson tweeted that DMC is the most talented center in the NBA.
KG working on his defense and expanding his game with his excellent footwork would be like a wet dream.
You gotta do anything to get DMC here, give up Melo, Bradley and Sully. Hopefully dump Greens contract and get Salmons+Garcia in return so we have two bench wings that can guard Lebron and also score.
This would be complete highway robbery if Danny pulls this off.
It would be so sad to see Avery and Sully go but Cousins is a once in every 10 year talent- you MUST roll the dice.
Getting him playing with Rondo solidifies us for the next7-8 years once KG and Pierce are gone- we'd be a dream FA destination with plenty of money to attract elite wing players and small forwards.
Mother of god Danny please do it!
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Lets hold our breath until trade deadline date passes when it involves Sully and Bradley:
The more the Celtics keep winning and both Sully and Bradley are part of it, the more Ainge will not want to trade them but the more Sac will want them. It will be a interesting kind of headache to deal with
The bottom line is this: How good can this team be with Sully and Bradley vs a team with DMC??
With Sully and Bradley, its a waiting game. We can't really say, we have a great chance to win the trophy. Can we still beat Miami and OKC??
With DMC , the thought of him and Rondo at the point, would present a dangerous team, so much so that a championship would not be out of the question. Though there is that ugly variable of how stable his character remains on the court.
To make this or other potential blockbuster trade more complex, what is going to happen to Green, Lee and Terry?? If they have been performing as expected, maybe danny has no issues to include Sully and AB (if that is the issue to prevent the trade to go through). If Green, Lee and Terry are untradeable on their own close to the trade deadline, then Danny may have no choice but to trade Sully and AB in a package for another big piece.
The best thing to result out of all of this is, Danny's efforts did not go wasted this past off year and Green, Lee and Terry perform as expected. Also Sully and AB keep overachieving, we keep winning and we don't trade anyone
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I fully expect the deal to involve Bass, Green, Lee and draft picks for a big guy not named Demarcus Cousins.
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We should really understand one thing...if ever there were to be a "blockbuster" trade in the works, the first person to break this news WOULD NOT BE SHERROD BLAKELY.
L O L. I couldn't agree more.
It's not "build around Bradley and Sully." It's build around Rondo, Bradley, and Sully. There's a fairly significant difference there.
It's like saying the Cavs are building around Dion Waiters and Tristan Thompson.
AND GREEN. But yeah you're spot on there. Actually a starting 5 of Rondo, Bradley, Green, Sully and _____ looks like a 4-5 seed to me. If you plug in a capable center and give a solid bench that team probably looks a lot like the Pacers do now talent-wise. They are 20-14 and hold the 4th seed in the East.
I fully expect the deal to involve Bass, Green, Lee and draft picks for a big guy not named Demarcus Cousins.
That is $20M and draft picks so I guess you're talking about Pau Gasol? The only other guy making that much $ and on the market is Amare Stoudemire. Jefferson?
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Here's another dumb report that results from Sherrod's no team / no player 'blockbuster' report.
http://www.hoopsworld.com/nba-am-celtics-making-a-blockbuster-trade/
Man, really frustrating......
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Put this is another thread, but I really think it is a reasonable trade for all 3 teams.
Boston gets Cousins, Robinson, Brooks
Memphis gets Evans, Salmons, Bass
Sacramento gets Gay, Rondo, Melo
Seems to fit what all three teams need/want from a trade.
Boston would then have a playoff rotation of
Guards - Terry, Bradley, Lee, Brooks/Barbosa
Wings - Pierce, Green
Bigs - Garnett, Cousins, Robinson, Sullinger
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Put this is another thread, but I really think it is a reasonable trade for all 3 teams.
Boston gets Cousins, Robinson, Brooks
Memphis gets Evans, Salmons, Bass
Sacramento gets Gay, Rondo, Melo
Seems to fit what all three teams need/want from a trade.
Boston would then have a playoff rotation of
Guards - Terry, Bradley, Lee, Brooks/Barbosa
Wings - Pierce, Green
Bigs - Garnett, Cousins, Robinson, Sullinger
Net for the Celts is Rondo for Cousins. Not gonna happen.
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Put this is another thread, but I really think it is a reasonable trade for all 3 teams.
Boston gets Cousins, Robinson, Brooks
Memphis gets Evans, Salmons, Bass
Sacramento gets Gay, Rondo, Melo
Seems to fit what all three teams need/want from a trade.
Boston would then have a playoff rotation of
Guards - Terry, Bradley, Lee, Brooks/Barbosa
Wings - Pierce, Green
Bigs - Garnett, Cousins, Robinson, Sullinger
Net for the Celts is Rondo for Cousins. Not gonna happen.
Thomas Robinson is nothing to sneeze at. Very high potential there as well and one of Robinson or Sully is bound to hit if not both (you then move the other).
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Why is everyone making such a big deal of the fact that we cut two players a day before their contracts became guaranteed?
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Why is everyone making such a big deal of the fact that we cut two players a day before their contracts became guaranteed?
One word: Sherrod
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Why is everyone making such a big deal of the fact that we cut two players a day before their contracts became guaranteed?
One word: Sherrod
Yeah. The Heat cut two players within the past 72 hours, as well. Where's their blockbuster?
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Here is the explanation, finally....
Patrick Gilroy Clarifies DeMarcus Cousins Report On 1510 NBC Sports Radio
Patrick Gilroy, co-host of "The NBA on NBA Boston Radio Program," joined the Bawstin Diehards on AM 1510 NBC Sports Radio Boston on Monday morning to clarify his report from Sunday evening regarding the Boston Celtics' pursuit of Sacramento Kings' star center DeMarcus Cousins.
Said Gilroy: "The story is this -- there is no secret that, despite the fact that the Celtics have won two in a row and Avery Bradley has had an instant impact defensively, that Danny Ainge is looking to make a deal. When he gets an itchy trigger finger, watch out -- this is what he does. Over the last two, three, four days, he's reached out to a handful of teams. His number one choice is not DeMarcus Cousins, his number one choice is Anderson Varejao, and Cleveland is not ready to part with him -- they think he's a big part of what they want to do in Cleveland. They think they've got a bright young future, and he's more likely to stay. DeMarcus Cousins, on the other hand, despite what you hear coming out of Sacramento, is miserable there. He's a head case, he's got issues and he's unhappy. The Maloof's are looking to rid themselves of the team, the potential problems, and he is very much out there and available for the right price.
"So we had Chris Mannix on the show on Saturday and he said that the Celtics were interested, but he didn't think that they had enough to sort of lure him here. That being said, [Sunday] night, A. Sherrod Blakely [of Comcast SportsNet New England] comes out with a report, Steve Bulpett [of the Boston Herald] comes out with a report saying Danny Ainge is looking at DeMarcus Cousins potentially again after they released a couple of their players. I went out and I called some of my sources and my sources confirmed exactly the same thing -- the only new piece of information was that Danny would 'potentially pull the trigger as soon as right away if he were willing to change his mind and give up Avery Bradley in a potential deal for DeMarcus Cousins.' Danny is trying to sell the league on Courtney Lee, and the league is not buying what Danny is selling. So Avery Bradley is the sticking point in the Celtics potentially acquiring a talent like DeMarcus Cousins, and there my friends is the story."
Listen to Gilroy's entire interview with the Bawstin Diehards on Monday on 1510 NBC Sports Radio Boston by clicking on this link. Gilroy co-hosts "The NBA on NBC Boston Radio Program" with Jeff Hickman on 1510 NBC Sports Radio Boston on Saturday's from 10 a.m. - 12 p.m. ET.
http://www.nbaonnbc.com/profiles/blogs/patrick-gilroy-clarify-s-demarcus-cousins-report-on-1510-nbc
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Here is the explanation, finally....
Patrick Gilroy Clarifies DeMarcus Cousins Report On 1510 NBC Sports Radio
Patrick Gilroy, co-host of "The NBA on NBA Boston Radio Program," joined the Bawstin Diehards on AM 1510 NBC Sports Radio Boston on Monday morning to clarify his report from Sunday evening regarding the Boston Celtics' pursuit of Sacramento Kings' star center DeMarcus Cousins.
Said Gilroy: "The story is this -- there is no secret that, despite the fact that the Celtics have won two in a row and Avery Bradley has had an instant impact defensively, that Danny Ainge is looking to make a deal. When he gets an itchy trigger finger, watch out -- this is what he does. Over the last two, three, four days, he's reached out to a handful of teams. His number one choice is not DeMarcus Cousins, his number one choice is Anderson Varejao, and Cleveland is not ready to part with him -- they think he's a big part of what they want to do in Cleveland. They think they've got a bright young future, and he's more likely to stay. DeMarcus Cousins, on the other hand, despite what you hear coming out of Sacramento, is miserable there. He's a head case, he's got issues and he's unhappy. The Maloof's are looking to rid themselves of the team, the potential problems, and he is very much out there and available for the right price.
"So we had Chris Mannix on the show on Saturday and he said that the Celtics were interested, but he didn't think that they had enough to sort of lure him here. That being said, [Sunday] night, A. Sherrod Blakely [of Comcast SportsNet New England] comes out with a report, Steve Bulpett [of the Boston Herald] comes out with a report saying Danny Ainge is looking at DeMarcus Cousins potentially again after they released a couple of their players. I went out and I called some of my sources and my sources confirmed exactly the same thing -- the only new piece of information was that Danny would 'potentially pull the trigger as soon as right away if he were willing to change his mind and give up Avery Bradley in a potential deal for DeMarcus Cousins.' Danny is trying to sell the league on Courtney Lee, and the league is not buying what Danny is selling. So Avery Bradley is the sticking point in the Celtics potentially acquiring a talent like DeMarcus Cousins, and there my friends is the story."
Listen to Gilroy's entire interview with the Bawstin Diehards on Monday on 1510 NBC Sports Radio Boston by clicking on this link. Gilroy co-hosts "The NBA on NBC Boston Radio Program" with Jeff Hickman on 1510 NBC Sports Radio Boston on Saturday's from 10 a.m. - 12 p.m. ET.
http://www.nbaonnbc.com/profiles/blogs/patrick-gilroy-clarify-s-demarcus-cousins-report-on-1510-nbc
I don't think that's even remotely credible.
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That block of text explained nothing. Jeez I wish people shut up unless there is real news to report.
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That block of text explained nothing. Jeez I wish people shut up unless there is real news to report.
That "block" of text explained exactly why it was reported by NBA on NBC Boston's twitter account. Whether it is credible or not is a different story.
I wish people would shut up and not comment just to throw in a worthless comment.
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That block of text explained nothing. Jeez I wish people shut up unless there is real news to report.
That "block" of text explained exactly why it was reported by NBA on NBC Boston's twitter account. Whether it is credible or not is a different story.
I wish people would shut up and not comment just to throw in a worthless comment.
I'm speaking of the greater context as well as that article. It was already explained that everybody was running off hearsay and speculation. Also I don't comment just to comment. Somebody shouldn't get worked up over what has really turned out to be nothing.
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That block of text explained nothing. Jeez I wish people shut up unless there is real news to report.
That "block" of text explained exactly why it was reported by NBA on NBC Boston's twitter account. Whether it is credible or not is a different story.
I wish people would shut up and not comment just to throw in a worthless comment.
Did he also explain why he was including Jeff Green in the trade rumors last night, when he can't be traded for another week plus?
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That block of text explained nothing. Jeez I wish people shut up unless there is real news to report.
That "block" of text explained exactly why it was reported by NBA on NBC Boston's twitter account. Whether it is credible or not is a different story.
I wish people would shut up and not comment just to throw in a worthless comment.
Did he also explain why he was including Jeff Green in the trade rumors last night, when he can't be traded for another week plus?
Hey, don't kill the messenger. To be honest, everyone starts out as being untenable until they break a few stories that turn out to be true. I guess I could careless if the information he is giving is logical or not. The purpose of me sharing this is to shed some light as to why the report came out in the first place.
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Just because something hasn't happened (yet) doesn't mean the roster space wasn't cleared in anticipation for a move. I would imagine a very small percentage of trade proposals between GM's actual materialize (perhaps 1-2% or less). We already know the C's are a team that inquired about Cousins, so there's no doubt they are looking to make a move; but it still takes at least two to make a deal.
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Just because something hasn't happened (yet) doesn't mean the roster space wasn't cleared in anticipation for a move.
The roster space was cleared because there was a 5pm deadline today. There's still plenty of time to utilize the open roster spots in a trade, but the timing of the cuts has nothing to do with trade discussions in my mind.
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that will be a major mistake by DA if he trades our three best bets for the future for DMC
i do it!! This team isnt going nowhere as it is now w/o a true center
How do you figure?
Sicne Bradley returned we are 2-1 and the last two wins (both against playoff teams during a back-to-back) were by an average of 13 points and saw us hold opposnents to an average of < 80 points.
We may have finally found our defense, and trading Sully and Bradley out for Cousins will break that.
I love the idea of getting Cousins, but he's a risk. If you can get him in return for a large number of mediocre players (like Lee, Bass, Barbosa, Green) then hell yes its worth the risk, but if you need to lose two exceptional young players then I wouldn't do it. I'd rather add a solid big and then add all-start talent via free agency when Pierce, Terry and KG retire.
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Do any of you think this Rondo suspension pushes Danny over the edge?
Sac fans are saying the trade for DMC has to start with Rondo...How about this? $$ matches almost exactly.
Rondo
Sullinger
for
Cousins
Evans
Aaron Brooks
Gives us a top PF/C in Cousins and a couple good backcourt players. Evans is a very good NBA player IF HE CAN STAY HEALTHY and Brooks has proven he can run a team at PG. THis would really boost our offensive firepower and would likely make both teams better now and in the future.
Thoughts?
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can this blockbuster revolve around gortat? seems as though until the cousins rumors hit, gortat was the guy everyone was watching.
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can this blockbuster revolve around gortat? seems as though until the cousins rumors hit, gortat was the guy everyone was watching.
Rondo for Gortat and Dragic
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and Gortat is a star player?? he is a role player as well...people on this site have vastly over-rated his talents
15 points @ 55% FG, 10 rebounds and 2 blocks (Gortat's numbers last season) are hardly role player numbers.
They are borderline All-Star numbers.
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11 points and 8 boards this year for Gortat...
Personally I would not trade:
KG, Pierce, Sully, Rondo, Bradley, Melo(yet).
Possibly Green, Lee or Bass in the right deal.
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and Gortat is a star player?? he is a role player as well...people on this site have vastly over-rated his talents
15 points @ 55% FG, 10 rebounds and 2 blocks (Gortat's numbers last season) are hardly role player numbers.
They are borderline All-Star numbers.
How are his numbers this year?
If he was a borderline all star why were Phoenix still decidedly average?
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Do any of you think this Rondo suspension pushes Danny over the edge?
Sac fans are saying the trade for DMC has to start with Rondo...How about this? $$ matches almost exactly.
Rondo
Sullinger
for
Cousins
Evans
Aaron Brooks
Gives us a top PF/C in Cousins and a couple good backcourt players. Evans is a very good NBA player IF HE CAN STAY HEALTHY and Brooks has proven he can run a team at PG. THis would really boost our offensive firepower and would likely make both teams better now and in the future.
Thoughts?
Interesting trade. Seems relatively fair. Cs would be very crowded at guard, with Evans, Brooks, Bradley, Lee and Terry. But I guess that would be of secondary concern.
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can this blockbuster revolve around gortat? seems as though until the cousins rumors hit, gortat was the guy everyone was watching.
Rondo for Gortat and Dragic
Horrible trade.
Best player in the trade by a considerable margin for two role players.
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Just because something hasn't happened (yet) doesn't mean the roster space wasn't cleared in anticipation for a move.
The roster space was cleared because there was a 5pm deadline today. There's still plenty of time to utilize the open roster spots in a trade, but the timing of the cuts has nothing to do with trade discussions in my mind.
That they were cut a day early tells me that there wasn't an imminent trade because they would have been kept around a bit longer in case there was use for them in a deal.
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Do any of you think this Rondo suspension pushes Danny over the edge?
Sac fans are saying the trade for DMC has to start with Rondo...How about this? $$ matches almost exactly.
Rondo
Sullinger
for
Cousins
Evans
Aaron Brooks
Gives us a top PF/C in Cousins and a couple good backcourt players. Evans is a very good NBA player IF HE CAN STAY HEALTHY and Brooks has proven he can run a team at PG. THis would really boost our offensive firepower and would likely make both teams better now and in the future.
Thoughts?
Interesting trade. Seems relatively fair. Cs would be very crowded at guard, with Evans, Brooks, Bradley, Lee and Terry. But I guess that would be of secondary concern.
You forgot Barbosa too.
If this happened, I'd like to see a three-guard rotation of Brooks, Evans, and Bradley, with Lee getting sparing minutes. Trade Terry.
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can this blockbuster revolve around gortat? seems as though until the cousins rumors hit, gortat was the guy everyone was watching.
Rondo for Gortat and Dragic
Horrible trade.
Best player in the trade by a considerable margin for two role players.
Yeah, because Gortat (16 points and 9 rebounds last season) is just a role player.
Right now with 5 minutes left in the 4th quarter he has 12 points, 14 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 steals and 5 blocks against us.
You wouldn't want him and Dragic though - I believe part of his complain earlier in the season was that Dragic wasn't getting him the touches he wanted.