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Slowest trading period since 1968
« on: December 02, 2019, 10:50:07 AM »

Offline Moranis

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The last trade was the Westbrook trade in July, excluding lockout shortened seasons this is the longest such period since 1968.  This is the first non-lockout season ever where there wasn't been a trade in any of August, September, October, or November. 

So which trade is going to break that string?

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Re: Slowest trading period since 1968
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2019, 11:23:47 AM »

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The last trade was the Westbrook trade in July, excluding lockout shortened seasons this is the longest such period since 1968.  This is the first non-lockout season ever where there wasn't been a trade in any of August, September, October, or November. 

So which trade is going to break that string?

https://hoopshype.com/2019/11/30/why-have-there-been-no-nba-trades-recently/


A major reason for this is how many FA there were last season.    No one can get trades until December 15th.  LOL  then we will see some action.....
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Re: Slowest trading period since 1968
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2019, 11:27:27 AM »

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Isn't this just an artifact of 40% of the league being FAs and thus ineligible to be traded till Dec 15th?

Re: Slowest trading period since 1968
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2019, 11:27:51 AM »

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The last trade was the Westbrook trade in July, excluding lockout shortened seasons this is the longest such period since 1968.  This is the first non-lockout season ever where there wasn't been a trade in any of August, September, October, or November. 

So which trade is going to break that string?

https://hoopshype.com/2019/11/30/why-have-there-been-no-nba-trades-recently/


A major reason for this is how many FA there were last season.    No one can get trades until December 15th.  LOL  then we will see some action.....
TP for having the same thought.

Re: Slowest trading period since 1968
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2019, 11:29:37 AM »

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Isn't this just an artifact of 40% of the league being FAs and thus ineligible to be traded till Dec 15th?

Its that, and the fact that there has been so much change in the landscape of the league that many teams probably are just taking stock of exactly where they stand before determining their next move.

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« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2019, 01:38:44 PM »

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Seems like one of the slower "firing" seasons too.  Surprised no coach has got the ax yet.

While not as prevalent as trades, I feel like usually a coach or two has been let go by now. A quick browsing of bball-ref shows me the following early season firings:

2019 Season
10/28/18 - Cavs fire Lue
12/3/18 - Bulls fire Hoiberg

2018 Season
10/22/17 - Suns fire Watson
11/27/17 - Griz fire Fizdale

2017 Season
no coaches fired all season?

2016 Season
11/18/15 - Rockets fire McHale

2015 Season
12/15/14 - Kings fire Malone

2014 Season
Mo Cheeks only coach to be fired during the season, but he made it to 2/9/14.


So maybe not as common as I thought, but definitely not uncommon.

I thought Walton was a goner, but maybe he's righted the ship a little in Sacramento?  Wouldn't be surprised to see Fizdale get axed soon.

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Re: Slowest trading period since 1968
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2019, 01:51:45 PM »

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Seems like one of the slower "firing" seasons too.  Surprised no coach has got the ax yet.

While not as prevalent as trades, I feel like usually a coach or two has been let go by now. A quick browsing of bball-ref shows me the following early season firings:

2019 Season
10/28/18 - Cavs fire Lue
12/3/18 - Bulls fire Hoiberg

2018 Season
10/22/17 - Suns fire Watson
11/27/17 - Griz fire Fizdale

2017 Season
no coaches fired all season?

2016 Season
11/18/15 - Rockets fire McHale

2015 Season
12/15/14 - Kings fire Malone

2014 Season
Mo Cheeks only coach to be fired during the season, but he made it to 2/9/14.


So maybe not as common as I thought, but definitely not uncommon.

I thought Walton was a goner, but maybe he's righted the ship a little in Sacramento?  Wouldn't be surprised to see Fizdale get axed soon.

I think Walton is pretty safe considering he just signed a 4 year in April
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Re: Slowest trading period since 1968
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2019, 02:39:00 PM »

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Isn't this just an artifact of 40% of the league being FAs and thus ineligible to be traded till Dec 15th?
I'm sure some of it is the timing factor, but I think the league in general is just in flux, both with all of the moves and the collapse of the Warriors.  So many teams think they can realistically win the title now they need to see what they have before they make a move and potentially upset the apple cart. 

I just found it interesting that there were no trades and that at no other time in a full season for 50 years had this happened before.   
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Re: Slowest trading period since 1968
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2019, 02:47:41 PM »

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One thing that I would like to see changed is the need to match salary in trades. The NBA already has the best trading season in sports, but this would take it to another level. Can you imagine coming up with a trade, where it’s just talent based, rather than figuring out a puzzle to match salaries first and the talent almost becomes secondary?

Would I like to see Kevin Love on the Celtics? Yes I would. However, I’m not trading Hayward to do it, just because we currently need to match salaries.

Assuming the salary match remains the same, I would like to see future draft picks count towards the salary match. Maybe base future first rounds picks on the average salary of the prior first round draft.