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The Spurs have Pop, we don't.Pop is not afraid to yell at his stars for making dumb plays or bench them in the final minutes of the game for that matter.Doc on the other hand tries to always please his star players, he will never yell at KG or Paul ever. Never calls them out in front of the whole team. Poppovic, does.This is why their rookies and young guys play so well, because they know that Pop, won't take their "crap".
As much as we all (me included!) like to believe the Spurs are the sturdiest of all modern NBA franchises, and Popovich is the best of modern NBA coaches, it is interesting to note that the Spurs have been bounced in the first round of the playoffs twice in the past five seasons (and they lost in the second round once). All this with what can be considered a better and overall healthier roster than the Celtics. Since 2009-10, the Spurs have finished each season with a better record and a higher seed than the Celtics, but they have fared worse - when taking seeding into account - in the playoffs (when the real season starts).This is why I agree that unless Ainge is BLOWN AWAY by trade proposals, he should run it back the next two seasons (until KG's contract ends). The Celtics simply need to stay healthy and Doc needs to fine-tune his lineups, which is exactly what has happened for the Spurs this season.
KG's Celtics were contenders for 3.5 years. Duncan's Spurs have been contenders since 1997.
Quote from: ManUp on May 26, 2013, 04:36:29 PMThe only thing that the C's and Spurs have in common is being percieved old. After the Rondo, Pierce, Garnett vs Parker, Ginobli, Duncan comparison the Spurs blow us out the water. They are simply the better managed organization.I just disagree, ManUp. Our role players match up fairly well. I think Danny made some mistakes this past off season and those, along with the Rondo and Sullinger injuries, are the major differences between the two franchises. I mean Jeff Green, Avery Bradley, and Jared Sullinger are very talented role players to add to the core of Rondo, PP, and KG. Courtney Lee was a disappointment and really a surprise. I thought he was going to be a nice addition. But Danny did not shore up the bigs they way I was hoping and he stacked the roster with too many undersized SGs. It just ended up being an unbalanced roster.The good news IMO is if he sticks with the core, I think he can rework the role players to better suit the system. He's done it before and he does draft well....
The only thing that the C's and Spurs have in common is being percieved old. After the Rondo, Pierce, Garnett vs Parker, Ginobli, Duncan comparison the Spurs blow us out the water. They are simply the better managed organization.
Spurs are there because of westbrook going down. They will get smoked in the finals.I'm already looking forward to another year of them being overrated again.
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Quote from: timobusa on May 26, 2013, 06:38:13 PMThe Spurs have Pop, we don't.Pop is not afraid to yell at his stars for making dumb plays or bench them in the final minutes of the game for that matter.Doc on the other hand tries to always please his star players, he will never yell at KG or Paul ever. Never calls them out in front of the whole team. Poppovic, does.This is why their rookies and young guys play so well, because they know that Pop, won't take their "crap". The Spurs have had Pop during the entire KG era and it hasn't really made them more successful than the Celts, or even as successful for that matter.
Quote from: BballTim on May 26, 2013, 09:47:22 PMQuote from: timobusa on May 26, 2013, 06:38:13 PMThe Spurs have Pop, we don't.Pop is not afraid to yell at his stars for making dumb plays or bench them in the final minutes of the game for that matter.Doc on the other hand tries to always please his star players, he will never yell at KG or Paul ever. Never calls them out in front of the whole team. Poppovic, does.This is why their rookies and young guys play so well, because they know that Pop, won't take their "crap". The Spurs have had Pop during the entire KG era and it hasn't really made them more successful than the Celts, or even as successful for that matter.Last time I checked the Spurs with Pop has 4 Championships.1999, 2003, 2005, 2007. They are 4 out of 4 in all their final appearances.
Quote from: edwardjkasche on May 26, 2013, 12:34:26 PMAs much as we all (me included!) like to believe the Spurs are the sturdiest of all modern NBA franchises, and Popovich is the best of modern NBA coaches, it is interesting to note that the Spurs have been bounced in the first round of the playoffs twice in the past five seasons (and they lost in the second round once). All this with what can be considered a better and overall healthier roster than the Celtics. Since 2009-10, the Spurs have finished each season with a better record and a higher seed than the Celtics, but they have fared worse - when taking seeding into account - in the playoffs (when the real season starts).This is why I agree that unless Ainge is BLOWN AWAY by trade proposals, he should run it back the next two seasons (until KG's contract ends). The Celtics simply need to stay healthy and Doc needs to fine-tune his lineups, which is exactly what has happened for the Spurs this season.That's completely and utterly ignoring the fact that the Spurs play in the West, which has a significant head over the East when it comes to talent.It took us 7 games to beat the Sixers last year, while they don't even make the playoffs (per record) in the West. While we may have gone further "on paper," the paper doesn't take into account that type of talent disparity.
The Spurs are significantly better than the Celtics are in virtually every phase of the game and every position.