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Around the League => Transaction Ideas and Rumors => Topic started by: AshyLarry on September 17, 2018, 02:05:18 PM
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https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2796176
'The Athletic's Jared Weiss reported there was "mutual interest" between the Boston Celtics and veteran free agent Jamal Crawford during his Celtics Beat podcast Sunday (h/t Nicholas Goss of NESN.com):
"There is mutual interest between the Celtics and Crawford. That I do know. The Celtics didn't make an offer to him. He's been kind of waiting for the right situation to materialize. That's why he's holding out to training camp, basically. He wants to be in a position to win a championship. He wants to sign on with one of these title teams."
Crawford, 38, averaged 10.3 points and 2.3 assists for the Minnesota Timberwolves last season, playing 20.7 minutes per game off the bench.'
Even with our 12 guards, I'd welcome the firepower. At 38 years old, I assume minutes aren't Crawford's biggest concern- so bring him in. I love insurance.
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He'll be great addition to our 3-point shooting.
Plus one of the best players for drawing fouls on a 3-point shot!
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He'll be great addition to our 3-point shooting.
You think so? I've always seen him as a pretty mediocre 3PT shooter. Not a bad one, necessarily, just not a very good one, either.
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he can be our Sam Cassell in 08
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He'll be great addition to our 3-point shooting.
You think so? I've always seen him as a pretty mediocre 3PT shooter. Not a bad one, necessarily, just not a very good one, either.
Agree completely. He is very average three point shooter, just 33.1% last year which is below average. He also has always been a very inefficient scorer and a bad defensive player. But if he is taking the soon to be vacated 15th roster slot of Jabari Bird on a vet min contract, that's still a very good upgrade.
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I’d like to see the 15th spot open around buyout season, but I suppose we could always get rid of Yabu in that case.
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He'll be great addition to our 3-point shooting.
You think so? I've always seen him as a pretty mediocre 3PT shooter. Not a bad one, necessarily, just not a very good one, either.
Agree completely. He is very average three point shooter, just 33.1% last year which is below average. He also has always been a very inefficient scorer and a bad defensive player. But if he is taking the soon to be vacated 15th roster slot of Jabari Bird on a vet min contract, that's still a very good upgrade.
I think his bad FG% has more to do with shot selection than it does actual shooting ability... I don't think he's a bad shooter at all from watching him.. I just think he likes to take very bad shots a LOT.
If this weren't the 15th roster spot, I'd say no.... But if it's for the final roster spot, and someone that will come in during a blowout and allow the team to get buckets to maintain a lead, I'm all for it.
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Jamal Crawford is a phenom who seems to just really enjoy playing the ol roundball. He's respected by anyone and everyone who even touches the sport and I think he'd be great on the C's, and good for our credibility entering next summer. When Amir Johnson says, "It's just different there, it's just better" it means one thing, when Jamal Crawford says it, it's canon.
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I'm not so excited him signing here, i mean where is his role for being a (inefficient) scoring first guard with no defense? for the same reason i don't buy for the purpose of locker room veteranship, we already have that and i don't want young kids to look him up and think to play like him.
His playstyle is the opposite that we want, if Danny and Brad wanted him we would have offered him a deal
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cant hurt.
better than bird/ yabu/ nader etc
its not a development year. vets on bench is good idea i think
i always liked him, be excited to have him.
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Just doesn't seem like we need him.
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We can never have too much offense off the bench. A respected vet who can create his own shot and provide instant offense off the bench is always a plus. Think of him like GSW era Leandro Barbosa
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Would love to see Jamal Crawford on the Celtics, with his experience and instant offense.
Much rather him than Ainge singing all these guys I've never heard of like Wannamaker, Dozier, Curly Joe, etc.
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We can never have too much offense off the bench. A respected vet who can create his own shot and provide instant offense off the bench is always a plus. Think of him like GSW era Leandro Barbosa
Ditto. Every championship caliber team needs someone like that. Think guys like Posey and Eddie House on the '08 Celtics.
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I feel like we don’t need him. We don’t lack people who can create shots. If he were an off-ball sniper then that would be one thing, but he’s not. Throw in the fact that he might be the single worst defensive player in the league at this point in his career... and no thanks.
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Signing him could make Rozier expendable this season. Signing him may mean that the Cs are looking at trade options
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Signing him could make Rozier expendable this season. Signing him may mean that the Cs are looking at trade options
I see it more of signing him means we are going all in this season and that Jabari Bird is gone. No need to move a young talent like Rozier just because we have a 38 year old bench player. Crawford is good for a spark off the bench, but he can't give you major minutes anymore at his age.
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I feel like we don’t need him. We don’t lack people who can create shots. If he were an off-ball sniper then that would be one thing, but he’s not. Throw in the fact that he might be the single worst defensive player in the league at this point in his career... and no thanks.
Not sure I agree with that once you get past the starters. The only non-starters that can really create for themselves at all are Rozier and Morris, and Morris can only do it in certain settings.
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I feel like we don’t need him. We don’t lack people who can create shots. If he were an off-ball sniper then that would be one thing, but he’s not. Throw in the fact that he might be the single worst defensive player in the league at this point in his career... and no thanks.
Not sure I agree with that once you get past the starters. The only non-starters that can really create for themselves at all are Rozier and Morris, and Morris can only do it in certain settings.
How many teams have multiple players who can create coming off their bench? How many can do it on GSW's bench? If all of our starters can do it (w/o counting guys on the bench who can) then we are more than fine. It's rare as is to have 5 guys that start who all can, let's not make this something more important than it is. The bench has plenty of guys who are competent at getting themselves something or at least are able to do it for others. You're never going to play a full bench lineup in important moments unless something goes terribly wrong anyway, there will always be 1-2 guys who can get their own/create and with the way CBS does it, there is always at least 2.
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I feel like we don’t need him. We don’t lack people who can create shots. If he were an off-ball sniper then that would be one thing, but he’s not. Throw in the fact that he might be the single worst defensive player in the league at this point in his career... and no thanks.
Not sure I agree with that once you get past the starters. The only non-starters that can really create for themselves at all are Rozier and Morris, and Morris can only do it in certain settings.
How many teams have multiple players who can create coming off their bench? How many can do it on GSW's bench? If all of our starters can do it (w/o counting guys on the bench who can) then we are more than fine. It's rare as is to have 5 guys that start who all can, let's not make this something more important than it is. The bench has plenty of guys who are competent at getting themselves something or at least are able to do it for others. You're never going to play a full bench lineup in important moments unless something goes terribly wrong anyway, there will always be 1-2 guys who can get their own/create and with the way CBS does it, there is always at least 2.
The more the better. You never know who you will need in emergencies. If Kyrie or Rozier get hurt and/or are in foul trouble, a guy like Crawford can be a savior in the short term. Even if its just for one half lf a playoff game, its worth it and can make the difference between Banner 18 and coming up just short.
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I'd love to have him for reasons similar to those mentioned by indeedproceed.
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Crawford is a proven NBA player. If he’s cool riding the pine most games, what’s the harm in signing him?
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Love J, but prefer to leave the spot open. Hello Ariza.
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Love J, but prefer to leave the spot open. Hello Ariza.
Didn't PHX sign him on a 1/$15m contract?
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Would love this. He wouldn't get a crazy amount of playing time but for depth he'd be incredible in spurts. If he'd go for the vet min it'd be a no brainer for us.
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I feel like we don’t need him. We don’t lack people who can create shots. If he were an off-ball sniper then that would be one thing, but he’s not. Throw in the fact that he might be the single worst defensive player in the league at this point in his career... and no thanks.
Not sure I agree with that once you get past the starters. The only non-starters that can really create for themselves at all are Rozier and Morris, and Morris can only do it in certain settings.
How many teams have multiple players who can create coming off their bench? How many can do it on GSW's bench? If all of our starters can do it (w/o counting guys on the bench who can) then we are more than fine. It's rare as is to have 5 guys that start who all can, let's not make this something more important than it is. The bench has plenty of guys who are competent at getting themselves something or at least are able to do it for others. You're never going to play a full bench lineup in important moments unless something goes terribly wrong anyway, there will always be 1-2 guys who can get their own/create and with the way CBS does it, there is always at least 2.
The more the better. You never know who you will need in emergencies. If Kyrie or Rozier get hurt and/or are in foul trouble, a guy like Crawford can be a savior in the short term. Even if its just for one half lf a playoff game, its worth it and can make the difference between Banner 18 and coming up just short.
I'd believe JC would be the reason we came up short before I believe he could hold the fort at any time. Give me a lot of guys over JC at this point. I like JC, especially during the offseason but I'd rather give Wanamaker a shot before putting in JC. We don't have 10 shots for JC even with the depleted team from last season... he needed that to get 10pts (20 mins)! His defense...
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Agree with ImShak. He’s pretty much an over the hill ball hog. He seems like the opposite of what a Celtic should be. I think I’d rather give Jimmer Freddette a look at that position.
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I feel like we don’t need him. We don’t lack people who can create shots. If he were an off-ball sniper then that would be one thing, but he’s not. Throw in the fact that he might be the single worst defensive player in the league at this point in his career... and no thanks.
Not sure I agree with that once you get past the starters. The only non-starters that can really create for themselves at all are Rozier and Morris, and Morris can only do it in certain settings.
How many teams have multiple players who can create coming off their bench? How many can do it on GSW's bench? If all of our starters can do it (w/o counting guys on the bench who can) then we are more than fine. It's rare as is to have 5 guys that start who all can, let's not make this something more important than it is. The bench has plenty of guys who are competent at getting themselves something or at least are able to do it for others. You're never going to play a full bench lineup in important moments unless something goes terribly wrong anyway, there will always be 1-2 guys who can get their own/create and with the way CBS does it, there is always at least 2.
The more the better. You never know who you will need in emergencies. If Kyrie or Rozier get hurt and/or are in foul trouble, a guy like Crawford can be a savior in the short term. Even if its just for one half lf a playoff game, its worth it and can make the difference between Banner 18 and coming up just short.
Last time i check Smart and Wanamaker is still on the team
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I feel like we don’t need him. We don’t lack people who can create shots. If he were an off-ball sniper then that would be one thing, but he’s not. Throw in the fact that he might be the single worst defensive player in the league at this point in his career... and no thanks.
Not sure I agree with that once you get past the starters. The only non-starters that can really create for themselves at all are Rozier and Morris, and Morris can only do it in certain settings.
How many teams have multiple players who can create coming off their bench? How many can do it on GSW's bench? If all of our starters can do it (w/o counting guys on the bench who can) then we are more than fine. It's rare as is to have 5 guys that start who all can, let's not make this something more important than it is. The bench has plenty of guys who are competent at getting themselves something or at least are able to do it for others. You're never going to play a full bench lineup in important moments unless something goes terribly wrong anyway, there will always be 1-2 guys who can get their own/create and with the way CBS does it, there is always at least 2.
The more the better. You never know who you will need in emergencies. If Kyrie or Rozier get hurt and/or are in foul trouble, a guy like Crawford can be a savior in the short term. Even if its just for one half lf a playoff game, its worth it and can make the difference between Banner 18 and coming up just short.
Last time i check Smart and Wanamaker is still on the team
Those 3 all bring very different skillset's to the table though
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Crawford is a proven NBA player. If he’s cool riding the pine most games, what’s the harm in signing him?
Exactly. What's the harm having 3 times 6th-player-of-the-year veteran at the bench?! I see only contribution just for his presence and advices to the young guys.
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I feel like we don’t need him. We don’t lack people who can create shots. If he were an off-ball sniper then that would be one thing, but he’s not. Throw in the fact that he might be the single worst defensive player in the league at this point in his career... and no thanks.
Not sure I agree with that once you get past the starters. The only non-starters that can really create for themselves at all are Rozier and Morris, and Morris can only do it in certain settings.
How many teams have multiple players who can create coming off their bench? How many can do it on GSW's bench? If all of our starters can do it (w/o counting guys on the bench who can) then we are more than fine. It's rare as is to have 5 guys that start who all can, let's not make this something more important than it is. The bench has plenty of guys who are competent at getting themselves something or at least are able to do it for others. You're never going to play a full bench lineup in important moments unless something goes terribly wrong anyway, there will always be 1-2 guys who can get their own/create and with the way CBS does it, there is always at least 2.
Seems as though we could make that a comparative strength, then. We have depth everywhere as it is, it’s not like signing Crawford would be at the expense of some pressing need on the roster.
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Everyone on the fence about Crawford, gonna be mad when he signs with GS
Of course we need him--I've seen this guy knock down high pressure shots for the past 10 years.
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Everyone on the fence about Crawford, gonna be mad when he signs with GS
Of course we need him--I've seen this guy knock down high pressure shots for the past 10 years.
I won't be mad and the only way I would know is if I see it here. They don't scare me.
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Crawford is a proven NBA player. If he’s cool riding the pine most games, what’s the harm in signing him?
Exactly. What's the harm having 3 times 6th-player-of-the-year veteran at the bench?! I see only contribution just for his presence and advices to the young guys.
Advice to not play defense and shot first for inefficient shots? no thank you
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Rozier can emulate some of his moves
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Crawford is a proven NBA player. If he’s cool riding the pine most games, what’s the harm in signing him?
Exactly. What's the harm having 3 times 6th-player-of-the-year veteran at the bench?! I see only contribution just for his presence and advices to the young guys.
Advice to not play defense and shot first for inefficient shots? no thank you
Do you seriously think any single NBA player will tell you that?
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I'm just wondering, for the people who say no to Crawford, what players would you prefer that are out there for the 15th spot?