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Re: 2012 CB Draft Trading Block
« Reply #45 on: July 29, 2012, 02:21:11 PM »

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Snarky response is 'you can't teach height, passing, or winning either apparently'.

But in all honesty, Ben Gordon is only 28, its easy to forget that. His shooting % was roughly the same as it was during his good years in Chicago, but his rate of scoring dropped significantly. And I don't mean just his points per game, his rate of scoring per minute on the floor dropped, which isn't a good thing in any world, but its also a bit confounding. His usage (amount of plays that end in his hands, roughly speaking) is pretty close to where it was his last year in Chicago.

I don't know what it adds up to, but its a strange situation.

How about the guy was playing for a paycheck and then got paid?

That is not who Ben Gordon is. He is a basketball guy through and through.

Loves to play, loves to work. A gym rat. One of the hardest workers in the league (during the season and in the off-season).

Then what's your take on his numbers?

I am not sure what to make of his numbers yet.

I want to see Ben Gordon in a better situation than Detroit. That was such a dysfunctional and badly managed backcourt over the last few years.

With John Kuester trying to fit in four guards in Stuckey, Rip, B.Gordon and W.Bynum to the detriment of each of their three best guards and their team as a whole. Then last year under Lawrence Frank with Brandon Knight (who was appallingly bad) replacing Rip Hamilton in what was a ridiculously small backcourt that was very vulnerable in terms of defense and rebounding. A backcourt that only exacerbated one another's weaknesses and made each other less effective. 

I want to see what Ben Gordon can do in a proper situation before I consider writing him off. He still looks capable out there. His shot is great. He can create looks for himself. Has improved as a passer. Rest of his game has remained stagnant. Looks in good shape. Still only 28. Has a great character and work-ethic.

I just very difficult to write a man like that off ... especially when he was in such a bad situation in Detroit. Unfortunately, it looks like he is walking into another in Charlotte.

I'd love to see him find his way back onto a quality basketball team in a role that fits him.

Re: 2012 CB Draft Trading Block
« Reply #46 on: July 29, 2012, 02:36:47 PM »

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Re: 2012 CB Draft Trading Block
« Reply #47 on: July 29, 2012, 02:40:07 PM »

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it all started because someone wanted to get rid of gordon or get trade offers for him

Re: 2012 CB Draft Trading Block
« Reply #48 on: July 29, 2012, 02:42:05 PM »

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Rebus and I would consider offers for Danny Granger. Looking for an elite PF. We'll even throw in some poutine and fresh marionberry scones if the offer is right.
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Re: 2012 CB Draft Trading Block
« Reply #49 on: July 29, 2012, 02:50:55 PM »

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Re: 2012 CB Draft Trading Block
« Reply #50 on: July 29, 2012, 02:57:36 PM »

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Most of my players can be had.


Rondo will be very hard to pry from my roster, just so you know. 


I am not looking for a platter of draft picks.  I already have one more draft pick then I need.  I am looking for players. 

Re: 2012 CB Draft Trading Block
« Reply #51 on: July 29, 2012, 03:00:16 PM »

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it all started because someone wanted to get rid of gordon or get trade offers for him
oh, i got that. it was more of meant to be 'where else would this happen'

Re: 2012 CB Draft Trading Block
« Reply #52 on: July 29, 2012, 03:01:44 PM »

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I can't wait till it's Monta's turn.
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Re: 2012 CB Draft Trading Block
« Reply #53 on: July 29, 2012, 03:06:01 PM »

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I can't wait till it's Monta's turn.

I've thrown my hands up on Monta. I'm not sure how good he actually is, and I think this trade to the Bucks mean we never will.

Re: 2012 CB Draft Trading Block
« Reply #54 on: July 29, 2012, 03:06:55 PM »

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I can't wait till it's Monta's turn.
Wanna bet?

Monta isn't the most highly regarded player during this draft.

Sorry, but thats just the way it is.

Re: 2012 CB Draft Trading Block
« Reply #55 on: July 29, 2012, 03:10:15 PM »

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I can't wait till it's Monta's turn.
Wanna bet?

Monta isn't the most highly regarded player during this draft.

Sorry, but thats just the way it is.

I think that's what he meant.

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Re: 2012 CB Draft Trading Block
« Reply #56 on: July 29, 2012, 03:16:22 PM »

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I can't wait till it's Monta's turn.

I've thrown my hands up on Monta. I'm not sure how good he actually is, and I think this trade to the Bucks mean we never will.

Monta is such a gifted scorer.  He is an undersized beast. If he played on the celtics we would love him. I hope the bucks make the playoffs I really do.
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Re: 2012 CB Draft Trading Block
« Reply #57 on: July 29, 2012, 03:17:39 PM »

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I can't wait till it's Monta's turn.

I've thrown my hands up on Monta. I'm not sure how good he actually is, and I think this trade to the Bucks mean we never will.

Monta is such a gifted scorer.  He is an undersized beast. If he played on the celtics we would love him. I hope the bucks make the playoffs I really do.

For what it's worth, I'm an Ellis guy.

I think you put a guy like Russell Westbrook - who is much better than Ellis - next to Steph Curry and not much else and you're going to get similar results, and hear similar complaints.

He's obviously a good scorer, he finishes pretty well at the hoop, and I think he actually is pretty good moving without the ball. Defensively I see him a lot like Rondo - someone who isn't the best on the ball defender, but can create a lot of turnovers w/ his speed. The problem Ellis has had is that w/o anyone capable of protecting the rim he really shouldn't be gambling the way he does.

Ellis hasn't been given the chance to show his value, and I think he'd excel if he was given that.
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Re: 2012 CB Draft Trading Block
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Re: 2012 CB Draft Trading Block
« Reply #59 on: July 29, 2012, 03:23:16 PM »

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Rebus and I would consider offers for Danny Granger. Looking for an elite PF. We'll even throw in some poutine and fresh marionberry scones if the offer is right.

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