Shams: The Pels are openly discussing Jrue in trade talks

[DefenseWinsChamps]

GSW could offer Wiggins and #2 for Jrue.  Maybe try to work it to get Redick too.

They already have one wing scorer with questionable scoring habits, poor distribution, and terrible defense. I don't think doubling down on that is a way to build a contender around Zion.

[Roy H.]

I love Jrue, but NOP would ask for Smart, not Kemba.  Something around Hayward + young guys and picks might be okay, too.

Total wishful thinking:

Hayward + Kanter + Langford + 2020 #1s + 2022 #1

for

Jrue + Redick

I’d also be fine with:

Smart + Kanter + #14 (signed) for Jrue

Or, even crazier, trade #1 above, followed by Smart to GS for #2.

Theis / Wiseman
Tatum
Brown
Jrue / Redick
Kemba

Ah, to dream.

[mr. dee]

If Pels are willing to take none of our core, I think something like Timelord and picks would be enough. But I doubt Danny is willing to give up him and Romeo just yet.

[Hoopvortex]

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1324007585868107777?s=20

The New Orleans Pelicans are openly discussing star Jrue Holiday in trade talks and several contending teams are pursuing, sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium.

Do you guys believe the C's are/should be among those contending teams pursuing Jrue?

Personally speaking, I'd love us to strike a deal with the Pels around Kemba. Feel free to add incoming or outgoing pick(s) if you deem it necessary.

Yes to Jrue on the Celtics. There are caveats.

First the pluses:

He has a reputation for being a great teammate.

Twice All-D team, and it’s so valuable that he can guard quicker points. Gets steals on his man, not just by jumping passing lanes.

He’s a true two-way player. On offense he does lots of complementary things, most notably getting assists like a point guard (higher ast% than Kemba last year).

League-average 3-pt shooter. Good finisher, over .600 at the rim.

If he’s replacing Hayward or Kemba, he’s less expensive, at least for next season.

So what’s not to like?

He’s 30. He’s somewhat turnover-prone.

He’s signed through 2022 - meaning, if he’s replacing Hayward it would be more difficult to sign Giannis in 2021.

On the whole I’m strongly positive.

[Kernewek]

I like the idea of being able to trot out a Smart Holiday backcourt gives us a tremendous defense in a guard-centric league, but I am not particularly excited about it if he replaces Walker rather than Hayward.

[BitterJim]

I like the idea of being able to trot out a Smart Holiday backcourt gives us a tremendous defense in a guard-centric league, but I am not particularly excited about it if he replaces Walker rather than Hayward.

Having Walker, Smart, and Holiday would make for a very interesting rotation. The only way to get them all more than 32 mpg (so, in the playoffs but likely not the regular season) would be to play all 3 together at times (and never play Brown at the 2). I know we've done some lineups before with Smart at the 3, but doing that regularly on a team with two stud wings doesn't seem like a great call. Fun to watch, but 3 starting-caliber PGs makes for an unwieldy rotation.

I don't see what the Pels would possibly want with Kemba's long term money, though. I just don't see any likely path for us to acquire him (unless we traded Smart)

[Darth_Yoda]

I like the idea of being able to trot out a Smart Holiday backcourt gives us a tremendous defense in a guard-centric league, but I am not particularly excited about it if he replaces Walker rather than Hayward.

Having Walker, Smart, and Holiday would make for a very interesting rotation. The only way to get them all more than 32 mpg (so, in the playoffs but likely not the regular season) would be to play all 3 together at times (and never play Brown at the 2). I know we've done some lineups before with Smart at the 3, but doing that regularly on a team with two stud wings doesn't seem like a great call. Fun to watch, but 3 starting-caliber PGs makes for an unwieldy rotation.

I don't see what the Pels would possibly want with Kemba's long term money, though. I just don't see any likely path for us to acquire him (unless we traded Smart)

I think Knicks would take on Kemba, also there is the opportunity with Spurs and Clippers as well.
So perhaps a three team deal with Jrue coming to cCeltics would be the best option.

Jrue
Smart
Brown
Tatum
Center

[Kernewek]

I like the idea of being able to trot out a Smart Holiday backcourt gives us a tremendous defense in a guard-centric league, but I am not particularly excited about it if he replaces Walker rather than Hayward.

Having Walker, Smart, and Holiday would make for a very interesting rotation. The only way to get them all more than 32 mpg (so, in the playoffs but likely not the regular season) would be to play all 3 together at times (and never play Brown at the 2). I know we've done some lineups before with Smart at the 3, but doing that regularly on a team with two stud wings doesn't seem like a great call. Fun to watch, but 3 starting-caliber PGs makes for an unwieldy rotation.

I don't see what the Pels would possibly want with Kemba's long term money, though. I just don't see any likely path for us to acquire him (unless we traded Smart)

Just imagine: Walker, Holiday, Smart, Brown, and Tatum, the shortest rotation in NBA history?

And, of course, probably not particularly effective at winning basketball games. But it would be fun.

Kemba spent however many years in Charlotte... I don't think he deserves to wind up on the Knicks.

[footey]

Someone (Hollinger? Lowe?) once made the astute observation that True Holliday was simultaneously underrated and overrated.

That point comes across loudly and clearly in this thread.

[gouki88]

Someone (Hollinger? Lowe?) once made the astute observation that True Holliday was simultaneously underrated and overrated.

That point comes across loudly and clearly in this thread.

I think those that rate him highly think he's so underrated that he becomes overrated, but there is a definite element of those that underrate him genuinely. He's been a 20/7/5 guy with top-3 guard defence in the league for 3 seasons running. That's a legit player

[tazzmaniac]

The Nets should be very interested.  KD, Kyrie and Jrue would be a very good big 3. 

[gouki88]

The Nets should be very interested.  KD, Kyrie and Jrue would be a very good big 3.

I would hate to play that team

[pearljammer10]

I love Jrue, but NOP would ask for Smart, not Kemba.  Something around Hayward + young guys and picks might be okay, too.

Total wishful thinking:

Hayward + Kanter + Langford + 2020 #1s + 2022 #1

for

Jrue + Redick

Beat me to it. Be great to move Hayward, Semi, Langford, two 2020 firsts a 2022 first for Jrue and Redick.

Kemba/Smart
Jrue/Redick
Brown/FA 3nD
Tatum/GWill
Theis/Kanter/RW3

[dannyboy35]

The Nets should be very interested.  KD, Kyrie and Jrue would be a very good big 3.

I would hate to play that team

 
  Me too. I like Jrue a ton. Unfortunately, I think the Nets will get someone even better.

[tazzmaniac]

The Nets should be very interested.  KD, Kyrie and Jrue would be a very good big 3.

I would hate to play that team

 
  Me too. I like Jrue a ton. Unfortunately, I think the Nets will get someone even better.

Who better are they going to get?