Bucks Fire Adrian Griffin

[Kernewek]

Bucks were dumb(like we were) to make their team and on the job training program, but smart to realize it's not working.
W/L record doesn't mean a whole lot on this league given you can stack wins on the backs of garbage teams.
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I wonder if Dame is going to start making noises to leave in the offseason given the turmoil.

Lillard got what he wanted, by all accounts. Imagine wanting to leave because you’ve been catered to.

I suspect that Milwaukee’s coaching change has nothing to do with their record, but not for the reasons that you have posited.

[byennie]

Why bother hiring another coach? Obviously the players are in charge.

I'd be livid if I'm Adrian Griffin. The team swaps Holiday for Lillard and guess what happens... the offense gets better and the defense gets worse. Their winning percentage is exactly the same.  Point differential the same. Every single player is performing pretty much the same, except Lillard is getting 3 less FGA than he did in Portland. Middleton, Lopez, Portis... same guys doing the same things.

Breaking news, Lillard played his entire career with a green light in Portland and there is some adjustment 40 games in to all new teammates, all new system, and being the 2nd fiddle to Giannis.

You couldn't script an outcome that was more *exactly* as expected. For that, you fire the coach at midseason. Just save some bucks and have Lillard/Giannis share the role.

[Goldstar88]

Why bother hiring another coach? Obviously the players are in charge.

I'd be livid if I'm Adrian Griffin. The team swaps Holiday for Lillard and guess what happens... the offense gets better and the defense gets worse. Their winning percentage is exactly the same.  Point differential the same. Every single player is performing pretty much the same, except Lillard is getting 3 less FGA than he did in Portland. Middleton, Lopez, Portis... same guys doing the same things.

Breaking news, Lillard played his entire career with a green light in Portland and there is some adjustment 40 games in to all new teammates, all new system, and being the 2nd fiddle to Giannis.

You couldn't script an outcome that was more *exactly* as expected. For that, you fire the coach at midseason. Just save some bucks and have Lillard/Giannis share the role.

Ding, Ding, Ding!

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

As others have expressed, this seems weird when viewed from the outside. Must be something internal that just wasn't working. Surprising, though (and rare, I think?), to see a team doing that well dump its coach midseason.

[jpotter33]

Why bother hiring another coach? Obviously the players are in charge.

I'd be livid if I'm Adrian Griffin. The team swaps Holiday for Lillard and guess what happens... the offense gets better and the defense gets worse. Their winning percentage is exactly the same.  Point differential the same. Every single player is performing pretty much the same, except Lillard is getting 3 less FGA than he did in Portland. Middleton, Lopez, Portis... same guys doing the same things.

Breaking news, Lillard played his entire career with a green light in Portland and there is some adjustment 40 games in to all new teammates, all new system, and being the 2nd fiddle to Giannis.

You couldn't script an outcome that was more *exactly* as expected. For that, you fire the coach at midseason. Just save some bucks and have Lillard/Giannis share the role.

Thought the same. Feels like Dame is just struggling with a new role and playing with actual stars/other high usage players, rather than the Dame-centric philosophy he’s so used to.

[GetLucky]

Why bother hiring another coach? Obviously the players are in charge.

I'd be livid if I'm Adrian Griffin. The team swaps Holiday for Lillard and guess what happens... the offense gets better and the defense gets worse. Their winning percentage is exactly the same.  Point differential the same. Every single player is performing pretty much the same, except Lillard is getting 3 less FGA than he did in Portland. Middleton, Lopez, Portis... same guys doing the same things.

Breaking news, Lillard played his entire career with a green light in Portland and there is some adjustment 40 games in to all new teammates, all new system, and being the 2nd fiddle to Giannis.

You couldn't script an outcome that was more *exactly* as expected. For that, you fire the coach at midseason. Just save some bucks and have Lillard/Giannis share the role.

Thought the same. Feels like Dame is just struggling with a new role and playing with actual stars/other high usage players, rather than the Dame-centric philosophy he’s so used to.

Yes, but this would have never happened without Giannis's green light. Remember when he checked himself back into a game against the Celtics?

[Phantom255x]

Lol do the Bucks actually think Doc Rivers is gonna save them?

Their defense is hot garbage and the Lillard trade has done nothing to really help them. Giannis is gonna be out of there in a year or two, just wait.

[radiohead]

Why bother hiring another coach? Obviously the players are in charge.

I'd be livid if I'm Adrian Griffin. The team swaps Holiday for Lillard and guess what happens... the offense gets better and the defense gets worse. Their winning percentage is exactly the same.  Point differential the same. Every single player is performing pretty much the same, except Lillard is getting 3 less FGA than he did in Portland. Middleton, Lopez, Portis... same guys doing the same things.

Breaking news, Lillard played his entire career with a green light in Portland and there is some adjustment 40 games in to all new teammates, all new system, and being the 2nd fiddle to Giannis.

You couldn't script an outcome that was more *exactly* as expected. For that, you fire the coach at midseason. Just save some bucks and have Lillard/Giannis share the role.

Thought the same. Feels like Dame is just struggling with a new role and playing with actual stars/other high usage players, rather than the Dame-centric philosophy he’s so used to.

Yes, but this would have never happened without Giannis's green light. Remember when he checked himself back into a game against the Celtics?

I get the feeling that Giannis is turning into Lebron 2.0. He got Bud fired, got a second star as he demanded (to the detriment of the team’s defense), and now all the blame goes to the coach, which seems incredulous considering their record. I mean weren’t they rejoicing when they clobbered us a week ago? This team may have major internal problems.

[radiohead]

https://twitter.com/big_business_/status/1749904722025132269

Wow.

[SparzWizard]

Why bother hiring another coach? Obviously the players are in charge.

I'd be livid if I'm Adrian Griffin. The team swaps Holiday for Lillard and guess what happens... the offense gets better and the defense gets worse. Their winning percentage is exactly the same.  Point differential the same. Every single player is performing pretty much the same, except Lillard is getting 3 less FGA than he did in Portland. Middleton, Lopez, Portis... same guys doing the same things.

Breaking news, Lillard played his entire career with a green light in Portland and there is some adjustment 40 games in to all new teammates, all new system, and being the 2nd fiddle to Giannis.

You couldn't script an outcome that was more *exactly* as expected. For that, you fire the coach at midseason. Just save some bucks and have Lillard/Giannis share the role.

Thought the same. Feels like Dame is just struggling with a new role and playing with actual stars/other high usage players, rather than the Dame-centric philosophy he’s so used to.

Yes, but this would have never happened without Giannis's green light. Remember when he checked himself back into a game against the Celtics?

I get the feeling that Giannis is turning into Lebron 2.0. He got Bud fired, got a second star as he demanded (to the detriment of the team’s defense), and now all the blame goes to the coach, which seems incredulous considering their record. I mean weren’t they rejoicing when they clobbered us a week ago? This team may have major internal problems.

I lost all respect for Giannis. Guy is like a primadonna in his own way. First he says he wants to win with only one team, and then he threatens to jump ship if things don't work out. Just don't promise things that you're not gonna follow through. And Giannis is only good because the refs allow him to be (i.e. charging at our guys, breathing on him, etc)

Jokic is the way to go now.

[SparzWizard]

https://twitter.com/big_business_/status/1749904722025132269

Wow.

Isn't that collusion or something lol

[Roy H.]

https://twitter.com/big_business_/status/1749904722025132269

Wow.

Joe should watch his back around Van Gundy, haha.

[greg683x]

Didn’t Giannis and Griffin have a public on court spat earlier this season that they tried to brush under the rug??

[Ed Monix]

I think Terry Stotts returns to Milwaukee as their new head coach.

Apparently Stotts only resigned because he was ‘butting heads’ with Adrian Griffin.

[ozgod]

I never understood why a team competing for a title would go for a young unproven coach.  Feel bad for Griffin, but that was always a weird hire to me.

The Mazzulla Precedent 

you stole my line!!! haha

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