Ime needs to be smarter with his challenges

[libermaniac]

I would say this is a critique of most NBA coaches, but the prevailing wisdom that you should save your challenge until late in the game is very flawed.  The first is that by that time it might not matter.

I think the situation needs to dictate when a challenge is used.  Case in point in game 2 on Jaylen's phantom call on GPII that led to his second foul and his sitting.  If you have a chance to overturn a call against one of your superstars that will keep him on the court, YOU HAVE TO USE IT.  Also, the fact that it likely would have saved them 2 points, it was a clear time to use it.  It turns out Payton missed both shots, so, in retrospect, that wasn't a factor.  But, the point is that you should always try to keep your superstars out of foul trouble.

[kraidstar]

I would say this is a critique of most NBA coaches, but the prevailing wisdom that you should save your challenge until late in the game is very flawed.  The first is that by that time it might not matter.

I think the situation needs to dictate when a challenge is used.  Case in point in game 2 on Jaylen's phantom call on GPII that led to his second foul and his sitting.  If you have a chance to overturn a call against one of your superstars that will keep him on the court, YOU HAVE TO USE IT.  Also, the fact that it likely would have saved them 2 points, it was a clear time to use it.  It turns out Payton missed both shots, so, in retrospect, that wasn't a factor.  But, the point is that you should always try to keep your superstars out of foul trouble.

He has been on a bad run with the challenges in the playoffs so far. Though he got a raw deal with a couple of them, especially in the Milwaukee series.

Agree sometimes it is important to use one early. Especially if it brings greater attention to terrible officiating when the momentum is swinging.

[Celtics2021]

The problem with the Jaylen call is that the coaches don’t have the benefit of getting all the angles we have on TV in a short time.  Jaylen didn’t touch him, but he was pretty close to the jersey, and they would uphold it with even the slightest contact.  There’s little way the coaches could have had a conclusive view from the sidelines on that.

Also, Payton missed both free throws IIRC, so it wouldn’t have even saved them points at the line.

Yeah, Ime is not the best with his challenges.  No, this is not a great example of that.

[ozgod]

Challenges are one of those things that can be easily second guessed because when we do so we have the benefit of video replay and usually we evaluate it at the end of the game, after seeing any number of incidents that could be challenged. Coaches have to decide on the spur of the moment.

That said, yes Ime hasn't done a great job of deciding whether or not to challenge, given those constraints. But I look at challenges as a bonus...even now I still don't exactly know why some succeed and some fail.

[86MaxwellSmart]

They need to update the rule---if you Win your challenge, you get it back...but only one time...The way it is now-you get penalized by winning or losing your challenge early.

[hodgy03038]

They need to update the rule---if you Win your challenge, you get it back...but only one time...The way it is now-you get penalized by winning or losing your challenge early.

Definitely agree. That is why you never see challenges in the 1st half because coach is worried he will need it late. This often times may be a foul on your star player which makes you sit that player and it hurts the overall game.

[gouki88]

They need to update the rule---if you Win your challenge, you get it back...but only one time...The way it is now-you get penalized by winning or losing your challenge early.

I've long argued that you should get one per half, and if you get it correct the first time you keep it and the timeout (so, potentially two a half).

Emphasise this and empowering the video officials as independent overseers would help I reckon. Cut down on the endless of reviews of "potential flagrant / hostile act" to offset the potential slowing down of the game.

[Roy H.]

They need to update the rule---if you Win your challenge, you get it back...but only one time...The way it is now-you get penalized by winning or losing your challenge early.

I would go further:  you get to keep your challenge so long as you’re successful.  If a team challenges five calls, but they were all clearly bad, I think fans would prefer that.

[Silas]

They need to update the rule---if you Win your challenge, you get it back...but only one time...The way it is now-you get penalized by winning or losing your challenge early.

I would go further:  you get to keep your challenge so long as you’re successful.  If a team challenges five calls, but they were all clearly bad, I think fans would prefer that.

I agree.  Also, I would allow one failed challenge per half.

[gouki88]

They need to update the rule---if you Win your challenge, you get it back...but only one time...The way it is now-you get penalized by winning or losing your challenge early.

I would go further:  you get to keep your challenge so long as you’re successful.  If a team challenges five calls, but they were all clearly bad, I think fans would prefer that.

Adam Silver and his obsession with "speeding up the game" would probably never allow it.

Here's an idea to speed up games - tip off at the actual tip off time!

[Roy H.]

They need to update the rule---if you Win your challenge, you get it back...but only one time...The way it is now-you get penalized by winning or losing your challenge early.

I would go further:  you get to keep your challenge so long as you’re successful.  If a team challenges five calls, but they were all clearly bad, I think fans would prefer that.

Adam Silver and his obsession with "speeding up the game" would probably never allow it.

Here's an idea to speed up games - tip off at the actual tip off time!

Yep.  And when a ref thinks there's a technical foul, call it, rather than spending five minutes to come up with "he was defending himself" or "it was Draymond's second, so he can get away with it this time".

[RJ87]

They need to update the rule---if you Win your challenge, you get it back...but only one time...The way it is now-you get penalized by winning or losing your challenge early.

I've long argued that you should get one per half, and if you get it correct the first time you keep it and the timeout (so, potentially two a half).

Emphasise this and empowering the video officials as independent overseers would help I reckon. Cut down on the endless of reviews of "potential flagrant / hostile act" to offset the potential slowing down of the game.

I've always thought it should be one per half. If I'm a coach, there's almost no way I'm using a challenge in the 1st half of a crucial playoff game.

[pokeKingCurtis]

They need to update the rule---if you Win your challenge, you get it back...but only one time...The way it is now-you get penalized by winning or losing your challenge early.

I would go further:  you get to keep your challenge so long as you’re successful.  If a team challenges five calls, but they were all clearly bad, I think fans would prefer that.

Wouldn't that open the door to more interpretation by the refs and more gaming of the system by coaches favored by the league

[gouki88]

They need to update the rule---if you Win your challenge, you get it back...but only one time...The way it is now-you get penalized by winning or losing your challenge early.

I would go further:  you get to keep your challenge so long as you’re successful.  If a team challenges five calls, but they were all clearly bad, I think fans would prefer that.

Adam Silver and his obsession with "speeding up the game" would probably never allow it.

Here's an idea to speed up games - tip off at the actual tip off time!

Yep.  And when a ref thinks there's a technical foul, call it, rather than spending five minutes to come up with "he was defending himself" or "it was Draymond's second, so he can get away with it this time".

5 minutes of deliberation all to conclude that the initial call was correct. Hooray!