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Re: How can Celtics improve their offense: Xs and Os with an NBA analyst
« Reply #45 on: November 27, 2021, 12:20:56 PM »

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It does seem extremely weird that there is a broad consensus among basketball media and the fan base what is fundamentally wrong with the team and the only move thus far to address any of it is to bring back Al Horford.

Bringing back Horford was about getting out from under Walker — simple as that. Still a little surprised Presti agreed to that deal.

What couldn’t be predicted is that we’d look this bad, or at least this mercurial, when Al, Schröder, Romeo, Grant, Rob and JRich, have met or exceeded expectations.  The bench should be decent, better than it is - especially when you add 9-12 guys who can contribute like AN, EK, PP, and JP.    BUT, despite a bench of NBA players there isn’t one who other teams worry about coming in and changing the game.

Jayson’s regression, an agonizing lack of sustained intensity, and no adjustments to the obviously mediocre shooting team that the C’s are, account for being the average team they are right now.  Great long range shooting teams should shoot many 3’s.  Mediocre long rang shooting teams shouldn’t.

Re: How can Celtics improve their offense: Xs and Os with an NBA analyst
« Reply #46 on: November 27, 2021, 01:32:14 PM »

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It does seem extremely weird that there is a broad consensus among basketball media and the fan base what is fundamentally wrong with the team and the only move thus far to address any of it is to bring back Al Horford.

Bringing back Horford was about getting out from under Walker — simple as that. Still a little surprised Presti agreed to that deal.

Sure, that was a big reason for the deal, but it was the only transaction that improved the team passing and playmaking on net. Some of the other moves may have some benefit, but they didn't improve the playmaking or transitional pace of the team.

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« Reply #47 on: November 27, 2021, 02:34:11 PM »

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The simple solution is to hire someone who can coach a high-level offence :laugh:

Should have hired D’Antoni as the #1 assistant coach. Mike could have run the offense and Ime the defense. An OC and a DC. Would have solved a lot of problems.
Bold of you to assume that any coach worth his salt would want to work under the vibe man as his assistant.

Also it's not even like he's doing a good job at organising our defence, our defensive personnel is elite and we're merely above average on that end of the floor.
Is it? Seemed to work just fine for Steve Nash last year. If you are a first time head coach, wouldn’t it be wise to surround yourself with an experienced coaching staff. If there is one thing Mike knows, it’s offense.
Steve Nash was a former league MVP who worked as an assistant coach for years and has a good relationship with MDA from his playing days, Ime was a former journeyman whose coaching pedigree involved his teams exploding on defence after he leaves them as their defensive coordinator. What I'm saying is that MDA would likely at least somewhat consider working under Nash and guiding him, good luck convincing him to do that for Udoka.
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Re: How can Celtics improve their offense: Xs and Os with an NBA analyst
« Reply #48 on: November 27, 2021, 03:49:37 PM »

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It does seem extremely weird that there is a broad consensus among basketball media and the fan base what is fundamentally wrong with the team and the only move thus far to address any of it is to bring back Al Horford.

Bringing back Horford was about getting out from under Walker — simple as that. Still a little surprised Presti agreed to that deal.

Sure, that was a big reason for the deal, but it was the only transaction that improved the team passing and playmaking on net. Some of the other moves may have some benefit, but they didn't improve the playmaking or transitional pace of the team.

Hear you. This team needs a proper PG badly.

Re: How can Celtics improve their offense: Xs and Os with an NBA analyst
« Reply #49 on: November 27, 2021, 03:56:43 PM »

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The simple solution is to hire someone who can coach a high-level offence :laugh:

Should have hired D’Antoni as the #1 assistant coach. Mike could have run the offense and Ime the defense. An OC and a DC. Would have solved a lot of problems.
Bold of you to assume that any coach worth his salt would want to work under the vibe man as his assistant.

Also it's not even like he's doing a good job at organising our defence, our defensive personnel is elite and we're merely above average on that end of the floor.
Is it? Seemed to work just fine for Steve Nash last year. If you are a first time head coach, wouldn’t it be wise to surround yourself with an experienced coaching staff. If there is one thing Mike knows, it’s offense.
Steve Nash was a former league MVP who worked as an assistant coach for years and has a good relationship with MDA from his playing days, Ime was a former journeyman whose coaching pedigree involved his teams exploding on defence after he leaves them as their defensive coordinator. What I'm saying is that MDA would likely at least somewhat consider working under Nash and guiding him, good luck convincing him to do that for Udoka.

What do you mean he would, “consider working under Nash”?  He already was one of their assistant coaches last year. If the money is right, I don’t see why he wouldn’t consider doing the same in Boston. Mike had a .682 winning percentage while in Houston. Sign me up for that.
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Re: How can Celtics improve their offense: Xs and Os with an NBA analyst
« Reply #50 on: November 27, 2021, 04:08:24 PM »

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Brown as 6th man is looking more like a viable idea to me.  Schröder played by far his best while Brown was out and the C’s currently have nothing fearsome coming off the bench.  Brown changes the 2nd unit’s identity and maybe puts PP back into the mix for some quick offense paired with a bigger guard.