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Re: Rob Williams stats and play thus far
« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2021, 06:01:31 PM »

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His efficiency is absurd. His career field goal percentage is 72.6%. The best career FG% in NBA history (of those who qualify) is DeAndre Jordan, at 67.4%. So about 5 percentage points worse than Rob.

With numbers that high that doesn't sound like much, or rather isn't perceived as much. But the difference between a 40% shooter from the field and 45% shooter from the field is enormous.

He doesn't shoot much, and he likely never will. But he's going to score on almost 3 of every 4 shots. Crazy
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Re: Rob Williams stats and play thus far
« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2021, 06:04:08 PM »

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His efficiency is absurd. His career field goal percentage is 72.6%. The best career FG% in NBA history (of those who qualify) is DeAndre Jordan, at 67.4%. So about 5 percentage points worse than Rob.

With numbers that high that doesn't sound like much, or rather isn't perceived as much. But the difference between a 40% shooter from the field and 45% shooter from the field is enormous.

He doesn't shoot much, and he likely never will. But he's going to score on almost 3 of every 4 shots. Crazy

Until someone figures to start upping his usage rate or whatever it's called when you start running offense through a bloke.

Which I've heard people mention; Rob passes well. Why not run offense through him. Get him the ball on the block, see if he can create.

I can see that happening if he stays healthy.

Re: Rob Williams stats and play thus far
« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2021, 09:10:23 PM »

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His efficiency is absurd. His career field goal percentage is 72.6%. The best career FG% in NBA history (of those who qualify) is DeAndre Jordan, at 67.4%. So about 5 percentage points worse than Rob.

With numbers that high that doesn't sound like much, or rather isn't perceived as much. But the difference between a 40% shooter from the field and 45% shooter from the field is enormous.

He doesn't shoot much, and he likely never will. But he's going to score on almost 3 of every 4 shots. Crazy

Until someone figures to start upping his usage rate or whatever it's called when you start running offense through a bloke.

Which I've heard people mention; Rob passes well. Why not run offense through him. Get him the ball on the block, see if he can create.

I can see that happening if he stays healthy.
You corroborate a player's statistics with his film and that's where the 'give Robert the ball' idea falls apart: he doesn't have one isolation gene in his body. He should be pretty good at being a distributor up top, but you really don't want him posting up to create for others.

That FG% suggests that he's an insane finisher, which is supported by the eye test - he can get the ball in places that no one else can reach and has a pretty good feel for cuts and rolls to the rim.
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Re: Rob Williams stats and play thus far
« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2021, 09:15:52 PM »

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His efficiency is absurd. His career field goal percentage is 72.6%. The best career FG% in NBA history (of those who qualify) is DeAndre Jordan, at 67.4%. So about 5 percentage points worse than Rob.

With numbers that high that doesn't sound like much, or rather isn't perceived as much. But the difference between a 40% shooter from the field and 45% shooter from the field is enormous.

He doesn't shoot much, and he likely never will. But he's going to score on almost 3 of every 4 shots. Crazy

Until someone figures to start upping his usage rate or whatever it's called when you start running offense through a bloke.

Which I've heard people mention; Rob passes well. Why not run offense through him. Get him the ball on the block, see if he can create.

I can see that happening if he stays healthy.
You corroborate a player's statistics with his film and that's where the 'give Robert the ball' idea falls apart: he doesn't have one isolation gene in his body. He should be pretty good at being a distributor up top, but you really don't want him posting up to create for others.

That FG% suggests that he's an insane finisher, which is supported by the eye test - he can get the ball in places that no one else can reach and has a pretty good feel for cuts and rolls to the rim.
Yeah, I don't particularly want him shooting more. If he could get some touches in the high post and try and make passes to cutting players I'd be happy with that, but as it stands he's a supremely elite garbage man on offence
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Re: Rob Williams stats and play thus far
« Reply #19 on: November 14, 2021, 09:48:10 PM »

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His efficiency is absurd. His career field goal percentage is 72.6%. The best career FG% in NBA history (of those who qualify) is DeAndre Jordan, at 67.4%. So about 5 percentage points worse than Rob.

With numbers that high that doesn't sound like much, or rather isn't perceived as much. But the difference between a 40% shooter from the field and 45% shooter from the field is enormous.

He doesn't shoot much, and he likely never will. But he's going to score on almost 3 of every 4 shots. Crazy

Until someone figures to start upping his usage rate or whatever it's called when you start running offense through a bloke.

Which I've heard people mention; Rob passes well. Why not run offense through him. Get him the ball on the block, see if he can create.

I can see that happening if he stays healthy.
You corroborate a player's statistics with his film and that's where the 'give Robert the ball' idea falls apart: he doesn't have one isolation gene in his body. He should be pretty good at being a distributor up top, but you really don't want him posting up to create for others.

That FG% suggests that he's an insane finisher, which is supported by the eye test - he can get the ball in places that no one else can reach and has a pretty good feel for cuts and rolls to the rim.

Yeah, I don't particularly want him shooting more. If he could get some touches in the high post and try and make passes to cutting players I'd be happy with that, but as it stands he's a supremely elite garbage man on offence

Yeah I'm not a fan of the idea either.

I think he'd be fine to catch and pass, but agree 100% with the notion of him not being a post-up guy.

Hence; he's got a high offensive rating, and will probably maintain that until someone starts over-using him.

Re: Rob Williams stats and play thus far
« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2021, 10:50:43 PM »

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Williams hits shots from 0-3 feet at 80.1% in his career.  Shaq at his absolute apex in 00-01 shot just 79.2% from 0-3 feet.  The difference of course is Williams shoots 69.8% of his shots from that range and averages just 3.8 shots per game.  Though I will say this year he is above his career averages and up to 6.4 fga per game.  So he has increased his output and kept his rate.  And he is still pretty good from 3-10 feet. 

In sum, the team would be better if they utilized Williams offensively more.  Getting his shots up around 10 a game would be good.
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Re: Rob Williams stats and play thus far
« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2021, 11:44:18 PM »

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Williams hits shots from 0-3 feet at 80.1% in his career.  Shaq at his absolute apex in 00-01 shot just 79.2% from 0-3 feet.  The difference of course is Williams shoots 69.8% of his shots from that range and averages just 3.8 shots per game.  Though I will say this year he is above his career averages and up to 6.4 fga per game.  So he has increased his output and kept his rate.  And he is still pretty good from 3-10 feet. 

In sum, the team would be better if they utilized Williams offensively more.  Getting his shots up around 10 a game would be good.

This is almost like Perk. On that team, he was the PERFECT player imo. Just fit in perfectly as an enforcer.

Is he the best player ever at his position? Hahahaha :') Maybe in his local area code?

So yeah, different player, but he's in the right spot at the moment. Being a menace on D, getting open for alleyoops and having super solid intangibles.

Re: Rob Williams stats and play thus far
« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2021, 09:47:20 PM »

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« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2021, 09:50:14 PM »

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Aaaand he’s hurt. Again.

Re: Rob Williams stats and play thus far
« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2021, 10:30:25 PM »

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Re: Rob Williams stats and play thus far
« Reply #26 on: November 18, 2021, 11:06:09 AM »

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When we get use to having him he goes down. We should have kept Moses and not signed Kanter.
Surely we did not need to include Moses to get Jrich. But we had to save a buck. My fear is when we need Rob in the playoff someone from the other team will hurt him because he is not big to take a hit.
But when he is going he sure is fun to watch. Nobody wins the Finals with a hurt center aka Perkins.
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« Reply #27 on: November 18, 2021, 11:13:49 AM »

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When we get use to having him he goes down. We should have kept Moses and not signed Kanter.
Surely we did not need to include Moses to get Jrich. But we had to save a buck. My fear is when we need Rob in the playoff someone from the other team will hurt him because he is not big to take a hit.
But when he is going he sure is fun to watch. Nobody wins the Finals with a hurt center aka Perkins.

Moses Brown?  The guy who has played 18 minutes for the Mavs this year?  That Moses?


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« Reply #28 on: November 18, 2021, 11:54:44 AM »

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Re: Rob Williams stats and play thus far
« Reply #29 on: November 18, 2021, 12:00:51 PM »

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Williams hits shots from 0-3 feet at 80.1% in his career.  Shaq at his absolute apex in 00-01 shot just 79.2% from 0-3 feet.  The difference of course is Williams shoots 69.8% of his shots from that range and averages just 3.8 shots per game.  Though I will say this year he is above his career averages and up to 6.4 fga per game.  So he has increased his output and kept his rate.  And he is still pretty good from 3-10 feet. 

In sum, the team would be better if they utilized Williams offensively more.  Getting his shots up around 10 a game would be good.

I was about to post this same thought. TP.