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Re: Simmons Wants Trade / Not Going To Report To Camp (CBS Report)
« Reply #330 on: October 11, 2021, 04:52:45 PM »

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Shams and Woj both reporting that Simmons return to the Sixers is looking more likely as the Sixers and Rich Paul have been discussing it all weekend and have gotten much closer to his return.

If Simmons comes back and actually gives effort, the Sixers will have played this perfectly.

So, essentially, ignore the crying baby and do not give into their demands and eventually, the baby stops crying.

Can you imagine if Simmons and Kyrie were ever teammates?  8)
You forgot the most important part.  Withhold his money and wait for his bills to start coming due.  With 4 years left on his contract, Simmons didn't have much leverage.
Sure he did.  He could have just waited the Sixers out and made them fold, especially since they had already paid him 25% of his salary this year.
So you think he got his 25% of his salary and just stuck it in a bank and stayed at home living frugally?  He's got at least 3 houses including a new 17M place in LA that he purchased this summer. 

Clearly he and Klutch weren't prepared for the amount of salary being withheld since they met with NBPA shortly after the Sixers stopped paying him.  Now they're talking with the Sixers about him coming back even though they were adamant that he wouldn't. 
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Re: Simmons Wants Trade / Not Going To Report To Camp (CBS Report)
« Reply #331 on: October 11, 2021, 04:53:41 PM »

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Shams and Woj both reporting that Simmons return to the Sixers is looking more likely as the Sixers and Rich Paul have been discussing it all weekend and have gotten much closer to his return.

If Simmons comes back and actually gives effort, the Sixers will have played this perfectly.

So, essentially, ignore the crying baby and do not give into their demands and eventually, the baby stops crying.

Can you imagine if Simmons and Kyrie were ever teammates?  8)
You forgot the most important part.  Withhold his money and wait for his bills to start coming due.  With 4 years left on his contract, Simmons didn't have much leverage.
Sure he did.  He could have just waited the Sixers out and made them fold, especially since they had already paid him 25% of his salary this year.
So you think he just got his 25% of his salary and just stuck it in a bank and stayed at home living frugally?  He's got at least 3 houses including a new 17M place in LA that he purchased this summer. 

Clearly he and Klutch weren't prepared for the amount of salary being withheld since they met with NBPA shortly after the Sixers stopped paying him.  Now they're talking with the Sixers about him coming back even though they were adamant that he wouldn't.

In addition to simmons, klutch is also looking very foolish right now. Could be beginning of the end for that group.

Re: Simmons Wants Trade / Not Going To Report To Camp (CBS Report)
« Reply #332 on: October 11, 2021, 05:07:51 PM »

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Philly needs by to welcome him back, but quietly keep shopping him and then move him.

I think the team mostly will (although Embid seems fairly p---ed). I don’t think the fans will welcome him back and I don’t think simmons will be able to handle it.
Won't be any issue with Embiid welcoming Simmons back especially if it happens before the season starts.  Embiid will post the reunion on his social media.  It will be interesting to see how the Sixers orchestrate his return with the fans.  I might bring him of the bench for the 1st game or two or maybe introduce him last in the starting line up with Embiid and the rest of the starters on court to greet him.

Do you think there is any chance he does not get a lot of boos? I honestly can’t remember a player in my lifetime being hated by the hometown fans this much.
Sixers fans will boo anyone including their hometown heroes like Embiid.  Sixers fans are going to eviscerate Simmons.  The Sixers need to figure out how best to minimize it.  Its probably a good thing that 3 of their 1st 4 games are on the road.  Obviously the Sixers winning and Simmons playing well would be a big help.  If Simmons comes in out of shape and stinks up the joint, its going to be brutal. 

Re: Simmons Wants Trade / Not Going To Report To Camp (CBS Report)
« Reply #333 on: October 11, 2021, 05:25:18 PM »

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Shams and Woj both reporting that Simmons return to the Sixers is looking more likely as the Sixers and Rich Paul have been discussing it all weekend and have gotten much closer to his return.

If Simmons comes back and actually gives effort, the Sixers will have played this perfectly.

So, essentially, ignore the crying baby and do not give into their demands and eventually, the baby stops crying.

Can you imagine if Simmons and Kyrie were ever teammates?  8)
You forgot the most important part.  Withhold his money and wait for his bills to start coming due.  With 4 years left on his contract, Simmons didn't have much leverage.
Sure he did.  He could have just waited the Sixers out and made them fold, especially since they had already paid him 25% of his salary this year.
So you think he got his 25% of his salary and just stuck it in a bank and stayed at home living frugally?  He's got at least 3 houses including a new 17M place in LA that he purchased this summer. 

Clearly he and Klutch weren't prepared for the amount of salary being withheld since they met with NBPA shortly after the Sixers stopped paying him.  Now they're talking with the Sixers about him coming back even though they were adamant that he wouldn't.

Pretty remarkable that they stopped paying him fully and get away with it. That's something unimaginable in football in Europe. Here if a player really wants to leave, his agent just informs the GM that his player wants a transfer and that he will not report anymore for training. The club has no other option than to keep paying his full salary and try to get an agreement with a team to the liking of the agent. Often the agent even determines which team is suitable for said player. And when a transfer has been done the club receives a bill by the agent for his services.

Re: Simmons Wants Trade / Not Going To Report To Camp (CBS Report)
« Reply #334 on: October 11, 2021, 05:28:02 PM »

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Shams and Woj both reporting that Simmons return to the Sixers is looking more likely as the Sixers and Rich Paul have been discussing it all weekend and have gotten much closer to his return.

If Simmons comes back and actually gives effort, the Sixers will have played this perfectly.

So, essentially, ignore the crying baby and do not give into their demands and eventually, the baby stops crying.

Can you imagine if Simmons and Kyrie were ever teammates?  8)
You forgot the most important part.  Withhold his money and wait for his bills to start coming due.  With 4 years left on his contract, Simmons didn't have much leverage.
Sure he did.  He could have just waited the Sixers out and made them fold, especially since they had already paid him 25% of his salary this year.
So you think he got his 25% of his salary and just stuck it in a bank and stayed at home living frugally?  He's got at least 3 houses including a new 17M place in LA that he purchased this summer. 

Clearly he and Klutch weren't prepared for the amount of salary being withheld since they met with NBPA shortly after the Sixers stopped paying him.  Now they're talking with the Sixers about him coming back even though they were adamant that he wouldn't.

Pretty remarkable that they stopped paying him fully and get away with it. That's something unimaginable in football in Europe. Here if a player really wants to leave, his agent just informs the GM that his player wants a transfer and that he will not report anymore for training. The club has no other option than to keep paying his full salary and try to get an agreement with a team to the liking of the agent. Often the agent even determines which team is suitable for said player. And when a transfer has been done the club receives a bill by the agent for his services.

pretty remarkable that he stops working and says he doesn't intend to and people think he should get paid

Re: Simmons Wants Trade / Not Going To Report To Camp (CBS Report)
« Reply #335 on: October 11, 2021, 05:34:29 PM »

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Shams and Woj both reporting that Simmons return to the Sixers is looking more likely as the Sixers and Rich Paul have been discussing it all weekend and have gotten much closer to his return.

If Simmons comes back and actually gives effort, the Sixers will have played this perfectly.

So, essentially, ignore the crying baby and do not give into their demands and eventually, the baby stops crying.

Can you imagine if Simmons and Kyrie were ever teammates?  8)
You forgot the most important part.  Withhold his money and wait for his bills to start coming due.  With 4 years left on his contract, Simmons didn't have much leverage.
Sure he did.  He could have just waited the Sixers out and made them fold, especially since they had already paid him 25% of his salary this year.
So you think he got his 25% of his salary and just stuck it in a bank and stayed at home living frugally?  He's got at least 3 houses including a new 17M place in LA that he purchased this summer. 

Clearly he and Klutch weren't prepared for the amount of salary being withheld since they met with NBPA shortly after the Sixers stopped paying him.  Now they're talking with the Sixers about him coming back even though they were adamant that he wouldn't.

Pretty remarkable that they stopped paying him fully and get away with it. That's something unimaginable in football in Europe. Here if a player really wants to leave, his agent just informs the GM that his player wants a transfer and that he will not report anymore for training. The club has no other option than to keep paying his full salary and try to get an agreement with a team to the liking of the agent. Often the agent even determines which team is suitable for said player. And when a transfer has been done the club receives a bill by the agent for his services.
Thankfully this is still America.  How do European football fans feel about players and agents making those power plays? 

Re: Simmons Wants Trade / Not Going To Report To Camp (CBS Report)
« Reply #336 on: October 11, 2021, 05:35:12 PM »

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Shams and Woj both reporting that Simmons return to the Sixers is looking more likely as the Sixers and Rich Paul have been discussing it all weekend and have gotten much closer to his return.

If Simmons comes back and actually gives effort, the Sixers will have played this perfectly.

So, essentially, ignore the crying baby and do not give into their demands and eventually, the baby stops crying.

Can you imagine if Simmons and Kyrie were ever teammates?  8)
You forgot the most important part.  Withhold his money and wait for his bills to start coming due.  With 4 years left on his contract, Simmons didn't have much leverage.
Sure he did.  He could have just waited the Sixers out and made them fold, especially since they had already paid him 25% of his salary this year.
So you think he got his 25% of his salary and just stuck it in a bank and stayed at home living frugally?  He's got at least 3 houses including a new 17M place in LA that he purchased this summer. 

Clearly he and Klutch weren't prepared for the amount of salary being withheld since they met with NBPA shortly after the Sixers stopped paying him.  Now they're talking with the Sixers about him coming back even though they were adamant that he wouldn't.

Pretty remarkable that they stopped paying him fully and get away with it. That's something unimaginable in football in Europe. Here if a player really wants to leave, his agent just informs the GM that his player wants a transfer and that he will not report anymore for training. The club has no other option than to keep paying his full salary and try to get an agreement with a team to the liking of the agent. Often the agent even determines which team is suitable for said player. And when a transfer has been done the club receives a bill by the agent for his services.

pretty remarkable that he stops working and says he doesn't intend to and people think he should get paid
Also, he is also represented by a union that negotiated a collective bargaining agreement that allows teams to stop paying the player under just such conditions as this. It is in his standard player's contract after all. It should be surprising to no one.

Re: Simmons Wants Trade / Not Going To Report To Camp (CBS Report)
« Reply #337 on: October 11, 2021, 05:51:33 PM »

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Shams and Woj both reporting that Simmons return to the Sixers is looking more likely as the Sixers and Rich Paul have been discussing it all weekend and have gotten much closer to his return.

If Simmons comes back and actually gives effort, the Sixers will have played this perfectly.

So, essentially, ignore the crying baby and do not give into their demands and eventually, the baby stops crying.

Can you imagine if Simmons and Kyrie were ever teammates?  8)
You forgot the most important part.  Withhold his money and wait for his bills to start coming due.  With 4 years left on his contract, Simmons didn't have much leverage.
Sure he did.  He could have just waited the Sixers out and made them fold, especially since they had already paid him 25% of his salary this year.
So you think he got his 25% of his salary and just stuck it in a bank and stayed at home living frugally?  He's got at least 3 houses including a new 17M place in LA that he purchased this summer. 

Clearly he and Klutch weren't prepared for the amount of salary being withheld since they met with NBPA shortly after the Sixers stopped paying him.  Now they're talking with the Sixers about him coming back even though they were adamant that he wouldn't.

Pretty remarkable that they stopped paying him fully and get away with it. That's something unimaginable in football in Europe. Here if a player really wants to leave, his agent just informs the GM that his player wants a transfer and that he will not report anymore for training. The club has no other option than to keep paying his full salary and try to get an agreement with a team to the liking of the agent. Often the agent even determines which team is suitable for said player. And when a transfer has been done the club receives a bill by the agent for his services.

pretty remarkable that he stops working and says he doesn't intend to and people think he should get paid
Yeah, that seems baffling to me too. Are there no match payments?
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Re: Simmons Wants Trade / Not Going To Report To Camp (CBS Report)
« Reply #338 on: October 11, 2021, 06:00:58 PM »

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Shams and Woj both reporting that Simmons return to the Sixers is looking more likely as the Sixers and Rich Paul have been discussing it all weekend and have gotten much closer to his return.

If Simmons comes back and actually gives effort, the Sixers will have played this perfectly.

So, essentially, ignore the crying baby and do not give into their demands and eventually, the baby stops crying.

Can you imagine if Simmons and Kyrie were ever teammates?  8)
You forgot the most important part.  Withhold his money and wait for his bills to start coming due.  With 4 years left on his contract, Simmons didn't have much leverage.
Sure he did.  He could have just waited the Sixers out and made them fold, especially since they had already paid him 25% of his salary this year.
So you think he got his 25% of his salary and just stuck it in a bank and stayed at home living frugally?  He's got at least 3 houses including a new 17M place in LA that he purchased this summer. 

Clearly he and Klutch weren't prepared for the amount of salary being withheld since they met with NBPA shortly after the Sixers stopped paying him.  Now they're talking with the Sixers about him coming back even though they were adamant that he wouldn't.

Pretty remarkable that they stopped paying him fully and get away with it. That's something unimaginable in football in Europe. Here if a player really wants to leave, his agent just informs the GM that his player wants a transfer and that he will not report anymore for training. The club has no other option than to keep paying his full salary and try to get an agreement with a team to the liking of the agent. Often the agent even determines which team is suitable for said player. And when a transfer has been done the club receives a bill by the agent for his services.

pretty remarkable that he stops working and says he doesn't intend to and people think he should get paid
Yeah, that seems baffling to me too. Are there no match payments?

I believe each contract is different regarding when and how their salary is paid out.

What 76ers have done is copied the NFL team strategy of dealing with player hold outs. They have set up an escrow account where Simmons salary will be held until he reports to the team. Until then his salary will be reduced via fines for missing camp, preseason games ect.
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Re: Simmons Wants Trade / Not Going To Report To Camp (CBS Report)
« Reply #339 on: October 11, 2021, 06:51:30 PM »

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This is all very embarrassing for Ben simmons.
Yeah.  If he comes back he looks weak.  Just stay home, don't get paid, and wait for a trade.  Only way he can save any sort of face at this point.


THE Sixers played it perfectly …no play no pay no trade.

Re: Simmons Wants Trade / Not Going To Report To Camp (CBS Report)
« Reply #340 on: October 11, 2021, 06:54:01 PM »

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Shams and Woj both reporting that Simmons return to the Sixers is looking more likely as the Sixers and Rich Paul have been discussing it all weekend and have gotten much closer to his return.

If Simmons comes back and actually gives effort, the Sixers will have played this perfectly.

So, essentially, ignore the crying baby and do not give into their demands and eventually, the baby stops crying.

Can you imagine if Simmons and Kyrie were ever teammates?  8)
You forgot the most important part.  Withhold his money and wait for his bills to start coming due.  With 4 years left on his contract, Simmons didn't have much leverage.
Sure he did.  He could have just waited the Sixers out and made them fold, especially since they had already paid him 25% of his salary this year.

lol….have you seen the guy’s lifestyle?

Re: Simmons Wants Trade / Not Going To Report To Camp (CBS Report)
« Reply #341 on: October 11, 2021, 06:56:42 PM »

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Shams and Woj both reporting that Simmons return to the Sixers is looking more likely as the Sixers and Rich Paul have been discussing it all weekend and have gotten much closer to his return.

If Simmons comes back and actually gives effort, the Sixers will have played this perfectly.

So, essentially, ignore the crying baby and do not give into their demands and eventually, the baby stops crying.

Can you imagine if Simmons and Kyrie were ever teammates?  8)
You forgot the most important part.  Withhold his money and wait for his bills to start coming due.  With 4 years left on his contract, Simmons didn't have much leverage.
Sure he did.  He could have just waited the Sixers out and made them fold, especially since they had already paid him 25% of his salary this year.
So you think he got his 25% of his salary and just stuck it in a bank and stayed at home living frugally?  He's got at least 3 houses including a new 17M place in LA that he purchased this summer. 

Clearly he and Klutch weren't prepared for the amount of salary being withheld since they met with NBPA shortly after the Sixers stopped paying him.  Now they're talking with the Sixers about him coming back even though they were adamant that he wouldn't.

Pretty remarkable that they stopped paying him fully and get away with it. That's something unimaginable in football in Europe. Here if a player really wants to leave, his agent just informs the GM that his player wants a transfer and that he will not report anymore for training. The club has no other option than to keep paying his full salary and try to get an agreement with a team to the liking of the agent. Often the agent even determines which team is suitable for said player. And when a transfer has been done the club receives a bill by the agent for his services.

that system is beyond dumb.
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Re: Simmons Wants Trade / Not Going To Report To Camp (CBS Report)
« Reply #342 on: October 11, 2021, 09:50:16 PM »

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Shams and Woj both reporting that Simmons return to the Sixers is looking more likely as the Sixers and Rich Paul have been discussing it all weekend and have gotten much closer to his return.

If Simmons comes back and actually gives effort, the Sixers will have played this perfectly.

So, essentially, ignore the crying baby and do not give into their demands and eventually, the baby stops crying.

Can you imagine if Simmons and Kyrie were ever teammates?  8)
You forgot the most important part.  Withhold his money and wait for his bills to start coming due.  With 4 years left on his contract, Simmons didn't have much leverage.
Sure he did.  He could have just waited the Sixers out and made them fold, especially since they had already paid him 25% of his salary this year.

lol….have you seen the guy’s lifestyle?
Sure.  But he can scale that crap back for a couple of months or just do a reality tv show and make some cash that way.  He got paid over 8 million dollars already for this season. 
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Re: Simmons Wants Trade / Not Going To Report To Camp (CBS Report)
« Reply #343 on: October 11, 2021, 11:03:50 PM »

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Shams and Woj both reporting that Simmons return to the Sixers is looking more likely as the Sixers and Rich Paul have been discussing it all weekend and have gotten much closer to his return.

If Simmons comes back and actually gives effort, the Sixers will have played this perfectly.

So, essentially, ignore the crying baby and do not give into their demands and eventually, the baby stops crying.

Can you imagine if Simmons and Kyrie were ever teammates?  8)
You forgot the most important part.  Withhold his money and wait for his bills to start coming due.  With 4 years left on his contract, Simmons didn't have much leverage.
Sure he did.  He could have just waited the Sixers out and made them fold, especially since they had already paid him 25% of his salary this year.

lol….have you seen the guy’s lifestyle?
Sure.  But he can scale that crap back for a couple of months or just do a reality tv show and make some cash that way.  He got paid over 8 million dollars already for this season.

that sounds like fun until the reality TV show producer actually requires him to work.

Re: Simmons Wants Trade / Not Going To Report To Camp (CBS Report)
« Reply #344 on: October 11, 2021, 11:30:39 PM »

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Simmons has reported to Philly, according to Woj. Not to the team specifically, but to the Wells Fargo Center. Rich Paul has folded.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/32384527/ben-simmons-reports-philadelphia-76ers-sources-say

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