Kevin Love

[LilRip]

Man he got his money but that contract destroyed his career. He obviously gets frustrated too throwing the ball at teammates in game. Really sad way to see the twilight of his career just as a general fan of basketball.

He’s won a championship though. I can see why - especially if you’re still making a ton of money - that can sap the motivation out of you.

[#1P4P]

Love has been vocal about his mental health issues. Underperforming and lack of availability on a Cavaliers team with lottery expectations attracts less scrutiny than underperforming and lacking availability on a contending team. He earned a position on the USAB Olympic team and removed himself because of the backlash.

[celticsclay]

Love has been vocal about his mental health issues. Underperforming and lack of availability on a Cavaliers team with lottery expectations attracts less scrutiny than underperforming and lacking availability on a contending team. He earned a position on the USAB Olympic team and removed himself because of the backlash.

How did he earn it exactly? He was named to the team after a year he hardly played.

[ETNCeltics]

Man he got his money but that contract destroyed his career. He obviously gets frustrated too throwing the ball at teammates in game. Really sad way to see the twilight of his career just as a general fan of basketball.

How did it destroy his career? He was 31 years old and had a title and a bunch of accolades. It's just a matter whether he'd rather be a backup on a contender or make $30 million a year. I think most people would much rather have his contract than freedom to ring chase with that kind of payoff.

[BudweiserCeltic]

1) Love is always hurt
2) He doesn't play D and you'd need Robert Williams to cover his butt
3)  He is old and in the twilight of his career
4) Many of you are thinking of Love of five years ago

And yet he'd be an upgrade over many of the options we have at PF.

We'll see if someone spots him at Logan...

Our two best players can both play power forward at an elite level. The current minutes distribution depends on it. Any more than 12 minutes at PF coming from anyone else pushes Tatum and Brown back into slots we have a minutes crunch at.

Love would take minutes from Nesmith and Richardson

"And yet he'd be an upgrade over many of the options we have at PF." <--- I "obviously" meant our best players... come on now. And yeah, Brown won't be playing PF.

[#1P4P]

Love has been vocal about his mental health issues. Underperforming and lack of availability on a Cavaliers team with lottery expectations attracts less scrutiny than underperforming and lacking availability on a contending team. He earned a position on the USAB Olympic team and removed himself because of the backlash.

How did he earn it exactly? He was named to the team after a year he hardly played.

The USAB selection committee selected him as one of the 12 players. He’s accumulated over 13,000 Points, 8,000 Rebounds, won a gold medal in a previous Olympics, been the 3rd best player on a Championship team, and they figured he’d be a solid big that will spread the floor and rebound while not being a defensive mismatch, and provide another veteran presence to round out a young USAB roster with a thin front line.

There are better players than Love, but I understand why he was selected and refuse to act like his selection was unearned.

[gouki88]

1) Love is always hurt
2) He doesn't play D and you'd need Robert Williams to cover his butt
3)  He is old and in the twilight of his career
4) Many of you are thinking of Love of five years ago

Nobody is thinking of Love of 5 years ago

[SHAQATTACK]

He is probably better off at this point , with a ring and big bank account , just move back to LA and join his uncle in The Beach Boys band .   

make peace not war

 

[Vermont Green]

I don't know what Kevin Love is going to be as a player moving forward.  Last seasons with injuries and perhaps disinterest, he had a serious drop off to 12 pts, 7.5 rebs, 26 gms, 25 min/game.  You can't know if this coming season, he is going to be better, worse, or the same.  He will be 33 in Sept.  Most likely, he is around the same but it is probably more likely that he is worse and the least likely that he is any better.

24 min from Love on a Vet Min contract would probably be better what we would get out of Parker and GWilliams (at least better than what we got from the two last season) but how much?  Parker was 15 pts / 6 Rebs in 32 gms, 26 min/game for ATL in 2019-20 before getting traded and then injured.  Parker was certainly not that player for us last season but is it really a stretch to hope that at age 26, that player still is in there?

I would not be upset if we signed Love but I would not expect it to make much difference and at best, it is a very short term stop gap type move.  Nothing that really helps us moving forward.  Parker at least has a chance to be something moving forward.  We are probably better off just giving minutes to Parker since neither is likely to move the needle much anyway.

[td450]

1) Love is always hurt
2) He doesn't play D and you'd need Robert Williams to cover his butt
3)  He is old and in the twilight of his career
4) Many of you are thinking of Love of five years ago

And yet he'd be an upgrade over many of the options we have at PF.

We'll see if someone spots him at Logan...

Our two best players can both play power forward at an elite level. The current minutes distribution depends on it. Any more than 12 minutes at PF coming from anyone else pushes Tatum and Brown back into slots we have a minutes crunch at.

Love would take minutes from Nesmith and Richardson

"And yet he'd be an upgrade over many of the options we have at PF." <--- I "obviously" meant our best players... come on now. And yeah, Brown won't be playing PF.

Brown absolutely plays some power forward. Like Tatum, he plays on offense in a more consistent way, but on defense he covers power forwards quite a bit, and he's better at battling bigger guys than Tatum, GWill or Parker.

The key point I was trying to get across is that Tatum and Brown's minutes don't go down, they just move around between the 2, 3 and the 4 spot. If you consume minutes at the power forward spot, it has to be deducted from available minutes at the 2 or 3.

Any additional power forward minutes directly deducts minutes from where we are deepest, at the 2 and 3 spots. I don't think it's very smart to sit Nesmith for a year so we can squeeze some mediocre minutes out of a broken player at power forward. Only serious longer term options should be worth doing that.

[BudweiserCeltic]

1) Love is always hurt
2) He doesn't play D and you'd need Robert Williams to cover his butt
3)  He is old and in the twilight of his career
4) Many of you are thinking of Love of five years ago

And yet he'd be an upgrade over many of the options we have at PF.

We'll see if someone spots him at Logan...

Our two best players can both play power forward at an elite level. The current minutes distribution depends on it. Any more than 12 minutes at PF coming from anyone else pushes Tatum and Brown back into slots we have a minutes crunch at.

Love would take minutes from Nesmith and Richardson

"And yet he'd be an upgrade over many of the options we have at PF." <--- I "obviously" meant our best players... come on now. And yeah, Brown won't be playing PF.

Brown absolutely plays some power forward. Like Tatum, he plays on offense in a more consistent way, but on defense he covers power forwards quite a bit, and he's better at battling bigger guys than Tatum, GWill or Parker.

The key point I was trying to get across is that Tatum and Brown's minutes don't go down, they just move around between the 2, 3 and the 4 spot. If you consume minutes at the power forward spot, it has to be deducted from available minutes at the 2 or 3.

Any additional power forward minutes directly deducts minutes from where we are deepest, at the 2 and 3 spots. I don't think it's very smart to sit Nesmith for a year so we can squeeze some mediocre minutes out of a broken player at power forward. Only serious longer term options should be worth doing that.

Brown and Tatum are irrelevant to the discussion.

[celticsclay]

Love has been vocal about his mental health issues. Underperforming and lack of availability on a Cavaliers team with lottery expectations attracts less scrutiny than underperforming and lacking availability on a contending team. He earned a position on the USAB Olympic team and removed himself because of the backlash.

How did he earn it exactly? He was named to the team after a year he hardly played.

The USAB selection committee selected him as one of the 12 players. He’s accumulated over 13,000 Points, 8,000 Rebounds, won a gold medal in a previous Olympics, been the 3rd best player on a Championship team, and they figured he’d be a solid big that will spread the floor and rebound while not being a defensive mismatch, and provide another veteran presence to round out a young USAB roster with a thin front line.

There are better players than Love, but I understand why he was selected and refuse to act like his selection was unearned.

This is weird. His career stars are irrelevant. By this logic we should suit up kareem every olympics. He has barely played for three years. Worse his selection played out poorly as he lasted like 3 days. In retrospect it was obviously a mistake to select him, and the decision makers that selected him would obviously admit that. Very weird thing to defend as the results already played out and it didn’t work.

[celticsclay]

Man he got his money but that contract destroyed his career. He obviously gets frustrated too throwing the ball at teammates in game. Really sad way to see the twilight of his career just as a general fan of basketball.

How did it destroy his career? He was 31 years old and had a title and a bunch of accolades. It's just a matter whether he'd rather be a backup on a contender or make $30 million a year. I think most people would much rather have his contract than freedom to ring chase with that kind of payoff.

He is obviously frustrated himself. He has spent the last couple years only making headlines for having public meltdowns in games. At best his actions since he signed that contract show he is conflicted about it.

[nickagneta]

He wants his cash. He has his title. He won't be giving Cleveland a deal to save money.

But if he did get bought out and came here on the minimum, the only minutes he is playing would be those that Grant and Jabari would have gotten, maybe 10-15 MPG. He wouldn't be stealing minutes from more deserving players.

[action781]

The only scenario I see Love coming to Boston is in the 2022 off-season if hypothetically:
A) Al Horford has declined significantly due to age
B) Rob Williams has demonstrated he's a starting caliber Center
C) Celts trade Al Horford to Cavs for Kevin Love

Celts do it if they believe Love will be a better player than Horford for the 2022-23 season and Cavs do it because they want to buy out Love anyways, so they can get the same essential financial result by waiving Horford and only paying him the $14.5 mil he has guaranteed.