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Re: Zion's Family Wants him Out of New Orleans
« Reply #45 on: June 17, 2021, 02:52:56 PM »

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Let’s cut to the chase:

Who would Boston be willing to trade for Zion?  Would he be a good fit with Tatum and|or Brown? Doesn’t seem to fit well with Ingram. His defensive liability is an issue too.

Kemba and TL
Brown and a number 1 pick!! Maybe we could throw in Smart and get Ball!

Re: Zion's Family Wants him Out of New Orleans
« Reply #46 on: June 17, 2021, 02:53:57 PM »

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  Zion is a 2nd year player, expecting them to really compete seems strange.
By compete, what I am looking for is along the lines of OKC's first playoff push.

In Durant's first two seasons, OKC was terrible. One of the five worst teams both years. They had amassed some great young talent (Durant, Jeff Green, Westbrook, Harden, Ibaka) and now it was time to start moving forwards.

In the meantime, Durant had also transitioned from a young player who did not effect winning (one of the worst defenders in the league + shot selection and scoring efficiency needed to grow) into one who had a huge effect on winning. This happened in his 3rd year.

In New Orleans they do not have the exact same situation.

Firstly, Zion did not take 3 years to learn how to impact winning. He did that from day one. He turned NOP into a near .500 team (over 24 games) while on the court his rookie year despite being on a minutes restriction (only 27-28mpg).

Secondly, this team does not have quite the breadth of young talent that OKC has but it does have a lot. It has two elite young stars in Zion & Ingram (rather than 3) and some good young talent in Lonzo & Jaxson Hayes (vs J.Green, Ibaka) plus another good pick in 2020 draft to add to it. There is a clear foundation to be built upon.

This is not a team starting from scratch. It is already well along it's building stage similar to OKC in it's 3rd year. NOP is not ready to win a title or even to compete for one. But it is ready to compete for the playoffs. To start learning about how to win in pressure environments. To learn how hard they are going to have to work in order to win a title together.

And in order to become more attractive as an up-and-coming power in order to attract a 3rd star via free agency or a trade somewhere further down the line.

Re: Zion's Family Wants him Out of New Orleans
« Reply #47 on: June 17, 2021, 03:01:28 PM »

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Wonder what OKC could do right now if they went all in with their treasure trove of draft picks.

They have Al Horford's semi expiring deal, Steven Adams $27.5m trade exception, and cap room to absorb or sign big salaries.  Plus 17 first round picks, and 17 2nd round picks to trade.

Go all in on Zion, Lillard, and Beal?

They could build a super team overnight if those guys are all really pushing for trades.




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Re: Zion's Family Wants him Out of New Orleans
« Reply #48 on: June 17, 2021, 03:05:28 PM »

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Let’s cut to the chase:

Who would Boston be willing to trade for Zion?  Would he be a good fit with Tatum and|or Brown? Doesn’t seem to fit well with Ingram. His defensive liability is an issue too.

Kemba and TL
Brown and a number 1 pick!! Maybe we could throw in Smart and get Ball!

If you put Zion and Tatum together it's game over for the rest of the NBA.

Re: Zion's Family Wants him Out of New Orleans
« Reply #49 on: June 17, 2021, 03:07:54 PM »

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Wonder what OKC could do right now if they went all in with their treasure trove of draft picks.

They have Al Horford's semi expiring deal, Steven Adams $27.5m trade exception, and cap room to absorb or sign big salaries.  Plus 17 first round picks, and 17 2nd round picks to trade.

Go all in on Zion, Lillard, and Beal?

They could build a super team overnight if those guys are all really pushing for trades.

TP for reality check.  OKC holds all the aces in this card game.

Re: Zion's Family Wants him Out of New Orleans
« Reply #50 on: June 17, 2021, 03:13:00 PM »

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Let’s cut to the chase:

Who would Boston be willing to trade for Zion?  Would he be a good fit with Tatum and|or Brown? Doesn’t seem to fit well with Ingram. His defensive liability is an issue too.

Kemba and TL
Brown and a number 1 pick!! Maybe we could throw in Smart and get Ball!

Zion is not worth Brown and a 1. Give em Kemba TL one first and one second

Re: Zion's Family Wants him Out of New Orleans
« Reply #51 on: June 17, 2021, 03:13:18 PM »

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Question is if we trade brown for him and the answer is in a heartbeat.

Re: Zion's Family Wants him Out of New Orleans
« Reply #52 on: June 17, 2021, 03:14:00 PM »

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Wonder what OKC could do right now if they went all in with their treasure trove of draft picks.

They have Al Horford's semi expiring deal, Steven Adams $27.5m trade exception, and cap room to absorb or sign big salaries.  Plus 17 first round picks, and 17 2nd round picks to trade.

Go all in on Zion, Lillard, and Beal?

They could build a super team overnight if those guys are all really pushing for trades.

TP for reality check.  OKC holds all the aces in this card game. Not if Zionsays he won't play for them!!

Re: Zion's Family Wants him Out of New Orleans
« Reply #53 on: June 17, 2021, 03:18:12 PM »

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Question is if we trade brown for him and the answer is in a heartbeat.

Why? He does not stay in shape, he does not have a jumper, no three pt shot, and his is not loyal....

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« Reply #54 on: June 17, 2021, 03:25:14 PM »

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Re: Zion's Family Wants him Out of New Orleans
« Reply #55 on: June 17, 2021, 03:30:38 PM »

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Zion apparently wanted to join the Knicks on draft night

Re: Zion's Family Wants him Out of New Orleans
« Reply #56 on: June 17, 2021, 03:32:25 PM »

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Let’s cut to the chase:

Who would Boston be willing to trade for Zion?  Would he be a good fit with Tatum and|or Brown? Doesn’t seem to fit well with Ingram. His defensive liability is an issue too.

Kemba and TL
Brown and a number 1 pick!! Maybe we could throw in Smart and get Ball!

Zion is not worth Brown and a 1. Give em Kemba TL one first and one second
It takes two to tango, and the Pels aren't dancing to that.

Re: Zion's Family Wants him Out of New Orleans
« Reply #57 on: June 17, 2021, 03:42:10 PM »

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Question is if we trade brown for him and the answer is in a heartbeat.

Why? He does not stay in shape, he does not have a jumper, no three pt shot, and his is not loyal....

Because our team regressed significantly. Brown and Tatum don't mesh and we wouldn't get anyone nearly as good as Zion for Brown in return, if the Pelicans even accepted that trade.

Zion also fills our biggest weakness and his age aligns with Tatums. We'd have the best young team in the NBA with those two as your 1-2.

People who are saying Kemba for Zion are beyond delusional. Just the standard take our trash for your star CelticsBlog mentality that we constantly see around here.

Re: Zion's Family Wants him Out of New Orleans
« Reply #58 on: June 17, 2021, 03:43:12 PM »

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Let’s cut to the chase:

Who would Boston be willing to trade for Zion?  Would he be a good fit with Tatum and|or Brown? Doesn’t seem to fit well with Ingram. His defensive liability is an issue too.

Kemba and TL
Brown and a number 1 pick!! Maybe we could throw in Smart and get Ball!

Zion is not worth Brown and a 1. Give em Kemba TL one first and one second
It takes two to tango, and the Pels aren't dancing to that.

Exactly

Zion and Tatum...inside outside could be amazing

I think Griffin would accept this trade if he cant stop Zion from wanting out

The question is.. would Zion want to play for the Celtics

Re: Zion's Family Wants him Out of New Orleans
« Reply #59 on: June 17, 2021, 03:54:59 PM »

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If Zion was a stock, I would short the crap out of him.  He’s gonna get injured and then become a shell of his former self.

I realize at this point beggars can’t be choosers, but there’s a big list of young star players I’d take over Zion.  I definitely wouldn’t be itching to shove my chips in the middle of table with him unless it was my only choice
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