Pack your bags Marcus Smart?

[Neurotic Guy]

Perhaps when Pritchard learns to defend three positions at an elite level this thread will make sense.

I am not advocating for trading Smart, but I do believe Romeo has the potential to at least defend three positions at very good level. It's Romeo, not Pritchard, who has the potential to make Smart a tradable asset...but he has to get healthy stay healthy.

I mean, yeah, Romeo did do better and impressed with his defense at the end of last year. But it seems crazy to me that at this point we're even talking about or even realistically considering Romeo - a guy not know for his defensive prowess coming into the league and who only showed defensive promise in a handful of games last year - as a potential replacement for the best and most versatile guard defender in the league and one of the best overall perimeter defenders in the league.

I definitely wasn't trying to make that point (notice how Roy said 'elite' for Smart and I said 'very good' for Romeo). I was more pointing out that Pritchard's ascension to legendary status has nothing to do with Smart. However, a similar trajectory by Romeo could make the loss of Smart more bearable if a trade opportunity arose or if his next contract is out of reach for the Cs.

I agree with jambr. Romeo makes Smart expendable at the right price. Smart has very high trade value. Packaged with the TPE could yield something irresistible. Has nothing to to with Fast PP ascension.

I know I’ll regret asking this because it seems I never really understand it but please explain how the TPE can be packaged with a player.  Initially I thought that you can’t use a TPE to add salary in a player for player deal.  But people keep posting suggestions that are doing just that.  I just don’t get how the TPE works in trade scenarios. 

Would love a thread that explains how DA can use the TPE ithat I could refer back to when I get confused

[feckless]

Pritchard is more of Teague replacement next year.

I think he will replace Teague before the end of this year.

[feckless]

Why would you want to trade a guy that has so much versatility and is on a team friendly deal? He can cover 1-4 and is top defender in the league. He’s also arguably the heart of this Celtics team. Pritchard looks promising at the PG position, but that’s it. He’s not big enough or strong enough to cover most 2’s. Suggesting trading him, just for the heck of it doesn’t make much sense to me.

It would not be just for the heck of it, I do not want to trade Marcus but we need more offense and Marcus has value, he is a commodity. Do we need Marcus and his poor shot selection or do we need a scorer?  If the right deal comes along?

[Ogaju]

Perhaps when Pritchard learns to defend three positions at an elite level this thread will make sense.

I am not advocating for trading Smart, but I do believe Romeo has the potential to at least defend three positions at very good level. It's Romeo, not Pritchard, who has the potential to make Smart a tradable asset...but he has to get healthy stay healthy.

I mean, yeah, Romeo did do better and impressed with his defense at the end of last year. But it seems crazy to me that at this point we're even talking about or even realistically considering Romeo - a guy not know for his defensive prowess coming into the league and who only showed defensive promise in a handful of games last year - as a potential replacement for the best and most versatile guard defender in the league and one of the best overall perimeter defenders in the league.

I definitely wasn't trying to make that point (notice how Roy said 'elite' for Smart and I said 'very good' for Romeo). I was more pointing out that Pritchard's ascension to legendary status has nothing to do with Smart. However, a similar trajectory by Romeo could make the loss of Smart more bearable if a trade opportunity arose or if his next contract is out of reach for the Cs.

I agree with jambr. Romeo makes Smart expendable at the right price. Smart has very high trade value. Packaged with the TPE could yield something irresistible. Has nothing to to with Fast PP ascension.

Going to have to go watch some Romeo NCAA videos because I do not get the hype at all.

[gouki88]

Why would you want to trade a guy that has so much versatility and is on a team friendly deal? He can cover 1-4 and is top defender in the league. He’s also arguably the heart of this Celtics team. Pritchard looks promising at the PG position, but that’s it. He’s not big enough or strong enough to cover most 2’s. Suggesting trading him, just for the heck of it doesn’t make much sense to me.

It would not be just for the heck of it, I do not want to trade Marcus but we need more offense and Marcus has value, he is a commodity. Do we need Marcus and his poor shot selection or do we need a scorer?  If the right deal comes along?

Are we not waiting the return of a 20PPG perennial All-Star?

[pearljammer10]

Perhaps when Pritchard learns to defend three positions at an elite level this thread will make sense.

So it will never make sense.

[Irish Stew]

Perhaps when Pritchard learns to defend three positions at an elite level this thread will make sense.

I am not advocating for trading Smart, but I do believe Romeo has the potential to at least defend three positions at very good level. It's Romeo, not Pritchard, who has the potential to make Smart a tradable asset...but he has to get healthy stay healthy.

I know that you're talking about Romeo's defense, but I'm not putting any stock in a wing who shot 27% from 3 as a collegian and 18% as a pro. Maybe he'll turn out to be a useful pro, but so many people on this site tend to take his eventual success for granted.

[nickagneta]

Perhaps when Pritchard learns to defend three positions at an elite level this thread will make sense.

I am not advocating for trading Smart, but I do believe Romeo has the potential to at least defend three positions at very good level. It's Romeo, not Pritchard, who has the potential to make Smart a tradable asset...but he has to get healthy stay healthy.

I know that you're talking about Romeo's defense, but I'm not putting any stock in a wing who shot 27% from 3 as a collegian and 18% as a pro. Maybe he'll turn out to be a useful pro, but so many people on this site tend to take his eventual success for granted.

Langford played with an injured hand through his entire year in college. This caused him to have to rework his shot last year because of the bad habits he developed in his form to make up for the pain he was feeling while playing with the injury in college.

Judging what Romeo can do shooting the ball based on just those seasons is probably a major mistake. Lest we forget, Langford was considered a top 3 player coming out of high school. His upside will still be very high when he gets healthy.

[tstorey_97]

Some days ago Smart got Giannis into foul trouble in a myriad of ways including lying down on the court and making Giannis trip over him more than once. The Celtics won that game and Smart, as always, played a role.

The guy is a magician and he's cheap.

He runs the defense when he's on the court and the Celtic's defense is usually toward the top of the league.

Auerbach rarely traded "defensive players" and trading "defense for offense" isn't worth it as offensive stars are overvalued and Marcus Smart in such a trade will be undervalued.

Tell another player to pack his bags...ok?

[Ogaju]

Perhaps when Pritchard learns to defend three positions at an elite level this thread will make sense.

I am not advocating for trading Smart, but I do believe Romeo has the potential to at least defend three positions at very good level. It's Romeo, not Pritchard, who has the potential to make Smart a tradable asset...but he has to get healthy stay healthy.

I know that you're talking about Romeo's defense, but I'm not putting any stock in a wing who shot 27% from 3 as a collegian and 18% as a pro. Maybe he'll turn out to be a useful pro, but so many people on this site tend to take his eventual success for granted.

Langford played with an injured hand through his entire year in college. This caused him to have to rework his shot last year because of the bad habits he developed in his form to make up for the pain he was feeling while playing with the injury in college.

Judging what Romeo can do shooting the ball based on just those seasons is probably a major mistake. Lest we forget, Langford was considered a top 3 player coming out of high school. His upside will still be very high when he gets healthy.

Avery Braadley was considered the top player coming out of high school...took him years to get comfortable in the NBA.

[GreenWarrior]

Perhaps when Pritchard learns to defend three positions at an elite level this thread will make sense.

4 games into a rookies season and we're already crowning players and you expect "sense" to factor into the equation...

[Rondo9]

Perhaps when Pritchard learns to defend three positions at an elite level this thread will make sense.

4 games into a rookies season and we're already crowning players and you expect "sense" to factor into the equation...

Seesssh why are you so judgmental? People are happy for him that's all.

[footey]

Perhaps when Pritchard learns to defend three positions at an elite level this thread will make sense.

I am not advocating for trading Smart, but I do believe Romeo has the potential to at least defend three positions at very good level. It's Romeo, not Pritchard, who has the potential to make Smart a tradable asset...but he has to get healthy stay healthy.

I mean, yeah, Romeo did do better and impressed with his defense at the end of last year. But it seems crazy to me that at this point we're even talking about or even realistically considering Romeo - a guy not know for his defensive prowess coming into the league and who only showed defensive promise in a handful of games last year - as a potential replacement for the best and most versatile guard defender in the league and one of the best overall perimeter defenders in the league.

I definitely wasn't trying to make that point (notice how Roy said 'elite' for Smart and I said 'very good' for Romeo). I was more pointing out that Pritchard's ascension to legendary status has nothing to do with Smart. However, a similar trajectory by Romeo could make the loss of Smart more bearable if a trade opportunity arose or if his next contract is out of reach for the Cs.

I agree with jambr. Romeo makes Smart expendable at the right price. Smart has very high trade value. Packaged with the TPE could yield something irresistible. Has nothing to to with Fast PP ascension.

I know I’ll regret asking this because it seems I never really understand it but please explain how the TPE can be packaged with a player.  Initially I thought that you can’t use a TPE to add salary in a player for player deal.  But people keep posting suggestions that are doing just that.  I just don’t get how the TPE works in trade scenarios. 

Would love a thread that explains how DA can use the TPE ithat I could refer back to when I get confused

My understanding is that so long as you can match the salary of the incoming player with all or a portion of the TPE, you are allowed to include other players on your end in the trade. Seems crazy, I know.  But someone with better knowledge, please feel free to correct me. 

[BitterJim]

Perhaps when Pritchard learns to defend three positions at an elite level this thread will make sense.

I am not advocating for trading Smart, but I do believe Romeo has the potential to at least defend three positions at very good level. It's Romeo, not Pritchard, who has the potential to make Smart a tradable asset...but he has to get healthy stay healthy.

I know that you're talking about Romeo's defense, but I'm not putting any stock in a wing who shot 27% from 3 as a collegian and 18% as a pro. Maybe he'll turn out to be a useful pro, but so many people on this site tend to take his eventual success for granted.

He's taken 27 threes as a pro, less than Tatum and Smart did in the first 5 games (with Brown reaching that tonight). Let's not act like it's any sort of sample size.

[Diggles]

depends on whos coming back....  Why trade when we have a Trade Exception, I don't want to pull another Perk.  Speaking of PErk, I miss Jeff Green.  He would be a great fit on this team.