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Re: Could Bamba Fall to the 6-10 range?
« Reply #30 on: June 13, 2018, 07:18:44 PM »

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I think if anyone in this draft is going to slip its MPJ.

Re: Could Bamba Fall to the 6-10 range?
« Reply #31 on: June 13, 2018, 07:19:59 PM »

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Rozier and #27 to Cleveland for #8? Throw in the Clippers pick if you really have to? Is Bamba worth it?

Does Cleveland even pick up the phone when Danny's number comes up on caller ID?
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Re: Could Bamba Fall to the 6-10 range?
« Reply #32 on: June 13, 2018, 07:55:04 PM »

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Rozier and #27 to Cleveland for #8? Throw in the Clippers pick if you really have to? Is Bamba worth it?

Does Cleveland even pick up the phone when Danny's number comes up on speed dial?

Lol, they've probably already blocked his number. And email address. And Twitter account. And Chipotle customer membership rewards (if there even is such a thing outside of Danny's custom card) ;D.

Re: Could Bamba Fall to the 6-10 range?
« Reply #33 on: June 13, 2018, 08:09:30 PM »

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The only 2 teams I see as potential partners to trade up would be Chicago and New York. I think it would take Rozier, #27, and Sac pick for #7 or #9. Plus if Sacramento pick lands #1 then Chicago or New York would get the Philly pick plus the Memphis pick. And the only way they do that is if they're not in love with any prospect at #7 or #9, and they really believe in Rozier.

I think Orlando is absolutely a target if Trey Young is off the board.
Trae Young most likely will be there. And Orlando probably won't pass on Jackson or MPJ for Rozier + future and/or late picks anyway. Maybe if Porter's back really is messed up, but I don't think it is.
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Re: Could Bamba Fall to the 6-10 range?
« Reply #34 on: June 13, 2018, 08:35:08 PM »

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Rozier and #27 to Cleveland for #8? Throw in the Clippers pick if you really have to? Is Bamba worth it?

Whose the backup PG if you do this and Smart walks, zero forethought....

Re: Could Bamba Fall to the 6-10 range?
« Reply #35 on: June 13, 2018, 08:37:03 PM »

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Rozier and #27 to Cleveland for #8? Throw in the Clippers pick if you really have to? Is Bamba worth it?

Whose the backup PG if you do this and Smart walks, zero forethought....
Smart is restricted. He can't walk if we decide to match, which we would most likely do if we trade Rozier.
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Re: Could Bamba Fall to the 6-10 range?
« Reply #36 on: June 13, 2018, 08:43:05 PM »

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Rozier and #27 to Cleveland for #8? Throw in the Clippers pick if you really have to? Is Bamba worth it?

Whose the backup PG if you do this and Smart walks, zero forethought....
Smart is restricted. He can't walk if we decide to match, which we would most likely do if we trade Rozier.

This. The chances that there's a team out there willing to pay more for Smart than the Celtics is slim and that only becomes more true if he's the main backup pg.
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Re: Could Bamba Fall to the 6-10 range?
« Reply #37 on: June 13, 2018, 09:51:14 PM »

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Rozier and #27 to Cleveland for #8? Throw in the Clippers pick if you really have to? Is Bamba worth it?

Whose the backup PG if you do this and Smart walks, zero forethought....

Even if Smart walks, which I doubt considering the lack of teams with cap space, Jalen Brunson would be a prototypical backup PG. Brunson is probably going to go really late in the 1st rd/early 2nd rd, which is attainable by buying a pick from a team overloaded with draft picks (see Atlanta w/ 4 picks in the first 34).

Back to Brunson...great size (6'3"), amazing intangibles (team player, leader, effort, etc.), shooting (splits 52.1-80.2-40.8), and can run an offense. The reasons he'll slip is because he isn't considered very athletic, mediocre wingspan of 6'4", and he's an older rookie (turns 22 in August). I could see him having a Van-Fleet impact right out of the gates.

Re: Could Bamba Fall to the 6-10 range?
« Reply #38 on: June 14, 2018, 09:34:30 AM »

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The only 2 teams I see as potential partners to trade up would be Chicago and New York. I think it would take Rozier, #27, and Sac pick for #7 or #9. Plus if Sacramento pick lands #1 then Chicago or New York would get the Philly pick plus the Memphis pick. And the only way they do that is if they're not in love with any prospect at #7 or #9, and they really believe in Rozier.

I think Orlando is absolutely a target if Trey Young is off the board.
Trae Young most likely will be there. And Orlando probably won't pass on Jackson or MPJ for Rozier + future and/or late picks anyway. Maybe if Porter's back really is messed up, but I don't think it is.

Yeah, I like where your head is at salt.  But in this draft, unless a strange Buddy Hield-Vivek Ranadive lovefest forms in the top 5 (and for the record I still like Hield), it seems unfathomable to me that any team in the top 5 would either 1) draft Young, or 2) trade the pick.

Of course, the draft has proven time and again that anything can happen.  I was right in Nov about the Lakers pick not conveying, maybe things can balance out and I'm wrong here.
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Re: Could Bamba Fall to the 6-10 range?
« Reply #39 on: June 14, 2018, 09:43:15 AM »

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Rozier and #27 to Cleveland for #8? Throw in the Clippers pick if you really have to? Is Bamba worth it?

Does Cleveland even pick up the phone when Danny's number comes up on caller ID?

I'd do it in a heartbeat. Let's say that Rozier is worth a late lottery pick, somewhere in the 12-14 range. You're trading a 12-14 and a late first-rounder to move up into the middle of the lottery. If the Clippers end up in the lottery again next year, that pick automatically becomes a 2nd rounder. Worst case scenario is a #12 (Rozier), #15 and #27 to get to #8 this year, and we already have at least two picks next year.

As to whether Cleveland picks up the phone, well, I hope that Danny masks his caller ID...

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Re: Could Bamba Fall to the 6-10 range?
« Reply #40 on: June 14, 2018, 10:06:26 AM »

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Rozier and #27 to Cleveland for #8? Throw in the Clippers pick if you really have to? Is Bamba worth it?

Whose the backup PG if you do this and Smart walks, zero forethought....

Even if Smart walks, which I doubt considering the lack of teams with cap space, Jalen Brunson would be a prototypical backup PG. Brunson is probably going to go really late in the 1st rd/early 2nd rd, which is attainable by buying a pick from a team overloaded with draft picks (see Atlanta w/ 4 picks in the first 34).

Back to Brunson...great size (6'3"), amazing intangibles (team player, leader, effort, etc.), shooting (splits 52.1-80.2-40.8), and can run an offense. The reasons he'll slip is because he isn't considered very athletic, mediocre wingspan of 6'4", and he's an older rookie (turns 22 in August). I could see him having a Van-Fleet impact right out of the gates.

Sounds like a good Ainge target, if we buy a 2nd round pick, but our 27th pick is too high to use on him, no?

Re: Could Bamba Fall to the 6-10 range?
« Reply #41 on: June 14, 2018, 10:08:53 AM »

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Rozier and #27 to Cleveland for #8? Throw in the Clippers pick if you really have to? Is Bamba worth it?

Whose the backup PG if you do this and Smart walks, zero forethought....
The team does not need to play a point guard that is a primary creator going forward. We need someone who can contain point guards and hopefully can handle switches on bigger players. On offense, they need to make their shots, but they don't need to be a traditional point.

Hayward is coming back and he's a better decision maker than Rozier or Smart. Tatum and Brown aren't so inexperienced any more either. We don't need another point to run the offense next year. Our wings can run the offense from here when Kyrie goes to the bench.

Rozier did great last year and is a good defender, but he got isolated a lot in the playoffs by great players, and it was a problem. Smart fits the bill on defense, but he is a terrible offensive player. We needed those two guys to be primary ball handlers when Kyrie was not on the court because we didn't have wings that were ready to run the offense.

I'm in favor of moving on from Smart and Rozier. We don't need to put a player on the floor any more that causes a compromise to our offense or our defense(with the exception of Kyrie, whose obviously worth it). Let's go get Jackson or Carter for the long run, and we can look for a bigger guard who is a good athlete as a role player to serve as a sub for Kyrie.

Re: Could Bamba Fall to the 6-10 range?
« Reply #42 on: June 14, 2018, 10:47:51 AM »

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Since ppl are talking about Bamba, here's a vid of Batum saying he should go first.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=125&v=dZdrKSocEJA

I found it on /r/nba, post by Like_a_Charo