[Bulpett] C's unwilling to give up "top draft assets" for George.

[jpotter33]

http://twitter.com/stevekylerNBA/status/880747998795485184

http://twitter.com/stevekylerNBA/status/880748675168907264

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/880760972671168512

http://twitter.com/stevekylerNBA/status/880749003595448321

So it sounds like a lot of this hardball stuff by Indiana is to try and take advantage of the situation with Hayward. They know that Ainge is wanting to agree to a deal BEFORE free agency to help lure Hayward here. However, if we get him here without having a deal in place already, then Indy loses a lot of leverage and will have to accept a much lesser offer than they're demanding now.

[BitterJim]

http://twitter.com/stevekylerNBA/status/880747998795485184

http://twitter.com/stevekylerNBA/status/880748675168907264

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/880760972671168512

http://twitter.com/stevekylerNBA/status/880749003595448321

So it sounds like a lot of this hardball stuff by Indiana is to try and take advantage of the situation with Hayward. They know that Ainge is wanting to agree to a deal BEFORE free agency to help lure Hayward here. However, if we get him here without having a deal in place already, then Indy loses a lot of leverage and will have to accept a much lesser offer than they're demanding now.

Huh, that makes a lot of sense.  If it's true, that's a smart move by the Pacers' GM.  It's not gonna work (it's Danny - he doesn't overpay for anything), but why not try?

[JBcat]

http://twitter.com/stevekylerNBA/status/880747998795485184

http://twitter.com/stevekylerNBA/status/880748675168907264

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/880760972671168512

http://twitter.com/stevekylerNBA/status/880749003595448321

So it sounds like a lot of this hardball stuff by Indiana is to try and take advantage of the situation with Hayward. They know that Ainge is wanting to agree to a deal BEFORE free agency to help lure Hayward here. However, if we get him here without having a deal in place already, then Indy loses a lot of leverage and will have to accept a much lesser offer than they're demanding now.

We don't need to act desperate here. Even without George a core of Horford, Thomas, Hayward, Bradley, Crowder, and our young guys is better than what he has in Utah and Miami.  We can sell him on the idea we can make a future trade for a star with our assets, but it doesn't have to be George. Plus with our cap situation I think it would easier to sign Hayward first then trade for George, not the other way around.

[manl_lui]

http://twitter.com/stevekylerNBA/status/880747998795485184

http://twitter.com/stevekylerNBA/status/880748675168907264

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/880760972671168512

http://twitter.com/stevekylerNBA/status/880749003595448321

So it sounds like a lot of this hardball stuff by Indiana is to try and take advantage of the situation with Hayward. They know that Ainge is wanting to agree to a deal BEFORE free agency to help lure Hayward here. However, if we get him here without having a deal in place already, then Indy loses a lot of leverage and will have to accept a much lesser offer than they're demanding now.

Huh, that makes a lot of sense.  If it's true, that's a smart move by the Pacers' GM.  It's not gonna work (it's Danny - he doesn't overpay for anything), but why not try?

true but I think whatever price they want to slap on George, Danny will really need to assess the situation if him and the front office thinks a lineup of

IT4/Hayward/George/Horford can really beat the Cavs and get to the finals and then have a chance with GSW...if front office thinks so, I think they will overpay for George, if not, then I don't see the deal happening

[Moranis]

http://twitter.com/stevekylerNBA/status/880747998795485184

http://twitter.com/stevekylerNBA/status/880748675168907264

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/880760972671168512

http://twitter.com/stevekylerNBA/status/880749003595448321

So it sounds like a lot of this hardball stuff by Indiana is to try and take advantage of the situation with Hayward. They know that Ainge is wanting to agree to a deal BEFORE free agency to help lure Hayward here. However, if we get him here without having a deal in place already, then Indy loses a lot of leverage and will have to accept a much lesser offer than they're demanding now.

We don't need to act desperate here. Even without George a core of Horford, Thomas, Hayward, Bradley, Crowder, and our young guys is better than what he has in Utah and Miami.  We can sell him on the idea we can make a future trade for a star with our assets, but it doesn't have to be George. Plus with our cap situation I think it would easier to sign Hayward first then trade for George, not the other way around.

I don't know if that team is better than what they have from Utah, or at least what he might be able to expect with Gobert and Hood reasonably making jumps.  Assuming of course Hill returns.  Gobert especially is a piece Boston doesn't have and you can't reasonably expect to ever have.