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Idea: Take a flyer on Andrew Bogut
« on: July 08, 2019, 06:15:51 AM »

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I know we are at like 15 guaranteed contracts already, but if the roster slot opened we could do alot worse than takig on Andrew Bogut on a vet minimum deal. He has reps as a decent to good interior defender, passes well for a big man and has champiosnhip experience to help RWill and the young'ens develop. Question is whether or not he is too cooked to give decent minutes.
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Re: Idea: Take a flyer on Andrew Bogut
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2019, 06:20:16 AM »

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Too many bigs. Can't waste 5 roster spots on centers.

Kanter. Poirier. Theis. Rob Williams. No space for Bogut.

This is why I did not want to bring back Theis. Too underwhelming a big man. Rob Williams too much of an unknown. They needed someone more solid than Theis in case Rob Williams isn't ready to go next season. Bogut or Tyson Chandler would've been good. But with Theis back, no space. Team exposed. Especially if Poirier (first time NBA player) doesn't adapt well to NBA.

Re: Idea: Take a flyer on Andrew Bogut
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2019, 06:52:10 AM »

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 Bogut is old and oft injured.  This is a bad idea, not idea.

Re: Idea: Take a flyer on Andrew Bogut
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2019, 06:56:40 AM »

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Bogut actually chose to go back to Australia to prolong his career for the Olympics then most probably retire, I think the only reason he came back for the playoffs last season was because of his connection with the Warriors and their injury problems.

Re: Idea: Take a flyer on Andrew Bogut
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2019, 07:05:40 AM »

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Too many bigs. Can't waste 5 roster spots on centers.

Kanter. Poirier. Theis. Rob Williams. No space for Bogut.

This is why I did not want to bring back Theis. Too underwhelming a big man. Rob Williams too much of an unknown. They needed someone more solid than Theis in case Rob Williams isn't ready to go next season. Bogut or Tyson Chandler would've been good. But with Theis back, no space. Team exposed. Especially if Poirier (first time NBA player) doesn't adapt well to NBA.

I think you’re looking at the Theis signing a bit wrong. We were going to be down to minimum signings anyway, which would likely not affect our title chances in any way. However, bringing Theis back adds another slightly bigger contract we can use in a trade.

Re: Idea: Take a flyer on Andrew Bogut
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2019, 07:26:55 AM »

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I want Tyson Chandler and Avery Bradley..drop Theis, Yabu and Wannamaker
C/PF-Horford, Baynes, Noel, Theis, Morris,
SF/SG- Tatum, Brown, Hayward, Smart, Semi, Clark
PG- Irving, Rozier, Larkin

Re: Idea: Take a flyer on Andrew Bogut
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2019, 02:40:56 PM »

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Bogut actually chose to go back to Australia to prolong his career for the Olympics then most probably retire, I think the only reason he came back for the playoffs last season was because of his connection with the Warriors and their injury problems.

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Re: Idea: Take a flyer on Andrew Bogut
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2019, 03:02:03 PM »

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Too many bigs. Can't waste 5 roster spots on centers.

Kanter. Poirier. Theis. Rob Williams. No space for Bogut.

This is why I did not want to bring back Theis. Too underwhelming a big man. Rob Williams too much of an unknown. They needed someone more solid than Theis in case Rob Williams isn't ready to go next season. Bogut or Tyson Chandler would've been good. But with Theis back, no space. Team exposed. Especially if Poirier (first time NBA player) doesn't adapt well to NBA.

I think you’re looking at the Theis signing a bit wrong. We were going to be down to minimum signings anyway, which would likely not affect our title chances in any way. However, bringing Theis back adds another slightly bigger contract we can use in a trade.

I also think Theis is really a PF and not a C, considering we don't really have many PFs either, and he gets pushed around pretty easily. 

But hey, with Stevens usually only using one big guy on the court at once, maybe he's a de facto C.  I just don't really think he should be.
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Re: Idea: Take a flyer on Andrew Bogut
« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2019, 04:46:31 PM »

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I also think Theis is really a PF and not a C, considering we don't really have many PFs either, and he gets pushed around pretty easily.

But hey, with Stevens usually only using one big guy on the court at once, maybe he's a de facto C.  I just don't really think he should be.

In case you did not get the Memo Danny and CBS don't value bigs and CBS does not coach traditional bigs well.   They have to be spread bigs.   This is maddening to me, and although, I know the game has changed it is a perennial weakness for us for these reasons.