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Where will Jimmy Butler be playing at in October

LA Clippers
15 (28.3%)
LA Lakers
3 (5.7%)
Miami
13 (24.5%)
Brooklyn
1 (1.9%)
New York
3 (5.7%)
Detroit
2 (3.8%)
Philadelphia
3 (5.7%)
Portland
0 (0%)
Houston
7 (13.2%)
Other
6 (11.3%)

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Re: Jimmy Butler has requested a trade
« Reply #60 on: September 19, 2018, 03:47:18 PM »

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I do not understand the Ricky Davis comparison. Davis was offensive flash, poor defender, played in 11 playoff games... A better comparison would be a poor man's Scottie Pippen, minus the playoff pedigree. Lock down perimeter defender, good secondary scoring option with a solid offensive repertoire.
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Re: Jimmy Butler has requested a trade
« Reply #61 on: September 19, 2018, 03:49:55 PM »

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Raptors, a team seemingly going all in for 1 year and then blowing it up, should be considered a player for Butler.

Do they have anything they can trade that would interest the Twolves and also match salary?

A package of, say, VanFleet, Miles, Wright and a lottery protected 1st rounder may be enticing to Thibs. A few solid veterans and low/mid range prospects might be all you can expect from an expiring trade request.

VanFleet just re-signed and can't be traded until Dec

Re: Jimmy Butler has requested a trade
« Reply #62 on: September 19, 2018, 03:57:58 PM »

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I do not understand the Ricky Davis comparison. Davis was offensive flash, poor defender, played in 11 playoff games... A better comparison would be a poor man's Scottie Pippen, minus the playoff pedigree. Lock down perimeter defender, good secondary scoring option with a solid offensive repertoire.

I just meant his impact on the court....winning games...not really worth trading any of our guys, for a FA
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Re: Jimmy Butler has requested a trade
« Reply #63 on: September 19, 2018, 04:14:16 PM »

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Raptors, a team seemingly going all in for 1 year and then blowing it up, should be considered a player for Butler.

Do they have anything they can trade that would interest the Twolves and also match salary?

A package of, say, VanFleet, Miles, Wright and a lottery protected 1st rounder may be enticing to Thibs. A few solid veterans and low/mid range prospects might be all you can expect from an expiring trade request.

VanFleet just re-signed and can't be traded until Dec

Actually not until January 15th.

Re: Jimmy Butler has requested a trade
« Reply #64 on: September 19, 2018, 04:43:28 PM »

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I do not understand the Ricky Davis comparison. Davis was offensive flash, poor defender, played in 11 playoff games... A better comparison would be a poor man's Scottie Pippen, minus the playoff pedigree. Lock down perimeter defender, good secondary scoring option with a solid offensive repertoire.

I just meant his impact on the court....winning games...not really worth trading any of our guys, for a FA

And I was just rehashing some of LarBrd's classic Butler comparisons. I messed it up, though - the references involved Mac 'n Cheese, not just Butler  :P

Re: Jimmy Butler has requested a trade
« Reply #65 on: September 19, 2018, 04:46:41 PM »

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If those are only 3 teams then the price to get Butler won’t be that high.

What could the Clippers give up? Say 2 expiring contracts in Wes Johnson, Marjanovic, the rookie Gilgeous-Alexander, and 2 future firsts maybe.  A starting 5 of Bradley, Butler, Harris, Gallo, and Gortat could be appealing with Butler handling the ball a lot.  Could be good news for the Clippers pick that is lottery protected.

For the Knicks maybe Noah’s big expiring contract, rookie Knox, and 2 future firsts?

Would the Nets be willing to trade future firsts ever again? Lol


Re: Jimmy Butler has requested a trade
« Reply #66 on: September 19, 2018, 04:53:02 PM »

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Kawhi Leonard requested a trade as well but not to the Raptors.

Re: Jimmy Butler has requested a trade
« Reply #67 on: September 19, 2018, 05:02:21 PM »

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Thibs traded Lavine, Dunn, and Markkanen for Butler. He has single-handedly ruined that franchise's trajectory.

Could you imagine a lineup of:

Dunn (defensive menace and decent facilitator)
Lavine (pure scorer)
Wiggins (who had improved as a scorer every year until last year)
Markkanen (perfect stretch four next to Towns)
Towns (a natural center on defense who has had to play PF next to Dieng)

That's a lot of young, scary, complementary bucket-getters.

This is not entirely correct.  Minni also got the #16 pick which ended up being former Creighton star Justin Patton.  I don't think too many were saying that was a bad trade for Minni at the time.  It looks bad now that Butler has gone rogue.  I think all of these players are overrated, Butler, Levine, Dunn, all of them.  Markkanen and Patton, TBD.

Butler wanting to be traded and Minni actually trading him are two different things.  We'll see.  I don't think Butler is as valuable around the league as he thinks.  I have no interest in him in Boston.  I like our team just the way it is unless we get a very promising starting level big in a deal.
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Re: Jimmy Butler has requested a trade
« Reply #68 on: September 19, 2018, 05:05:48 PM »

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If those are only 3 teams then the price to get Butler won’t be that high.

What could the Clippers give up? Say 2 expiring contracts in Wes Johnson, Marjanovic, the rookie Gilgeous-Alexander, and 2 future firsts maybe.  A starting 5 of Bradley, Butler, Harris, Gallo, and Gortat could be appealing with Butler handling the ball a lot.  Could be good news for the Clippers pick that is lottery protected.

For the Knicks maybe Noah’s big expiring contract, rookie Knox, and 2 future firsts?

Would the Nets be willing to trade future firsts ever again? Lol

I think you need to gauge Butler's valuable comparable to what the Pacers got for George, which means 1sts may not need to be included. One prospect and one starting caliber player with upside might get it done.

Clippers: Shai, Harris
Nets: Crabbe, Russell
Knicks: Hardaway, Frankie

I do agree that a Clippers team that has a backcourt of Williams-Bradley-Beverly-Teodosic, a wing rotation of Butler-Harris-Gallinari-Luc, and a big rotation of Gortat-Harrell would be pretty interesting. If Doc can put the pieces together and they can stay healthy, that team could make noise.

Re: Jimmy Butler has requested a trade
« Reply #69 on: September 19, 2018, 05:12:51 PM »

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If those are only 3 teams then the price to get Butler won’t be that high.

What could the Clippers give up? Say 2 expiring contracts in Wes Johnson, Marjanovic, the rookie Gilgeous-Alexander, and 2 future firsts maybe.  A starting 5 of Bradley, Butler, Harris, Gallo, and Gortat could be appealing with Butler handling the ball a lot.  Could be good news for the Clippers pick that is lottery protected.

For the Knicks maybe Noah’s big expiring contract, rookie Knox, and 2 future firsts?

Would the Nets be willing to trade future firsts ever again? Lol

I think you need to gauge Butler's valuable comparable to what the Pacers got for George, which means 1sts may not need to be included. One prospect and one starting caliber player with upside might get it done.

Clippers: Shai, Harris
Nets: Crabbe, Russell
Knicks: Hardaway, Frankie

I do agree that a Clippers team that has a backcourt of Williams-Bradley-Beverly-Teodosic, a wing rotation of Butler-Harris-Gallinari-Luc, and a big rotation of Gortat-Harrell would be pretty interesting. If Doc can put the pieces together and they can stay healthy, that team could make noise.
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Re: Jimmy Butler has requested a trade
« Reply #70 on: September 19, 2018, 05:25:30 PM »

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Minnesota's Jimmy Butler has three preferred destinations for a trade, league sources tell ESPN: The Brooklyn Nets, Los Angeles Clippers and New York Knicks. Those three teams have max cap space to sign Butler as a free agent in July.

Well, I think its clear what his intentions are.

If he's traded, don't his Bird rights go with him? I don't follow why cap room of the receiving team matters...is there some nuance about how much he can be re-signed for?

Re: Jimmy Butler has requested a trade
« Reply #71 on: September 19, 2018, 05:31:22 PM »

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If I were New Orleans I'd try to get in on this.

They have to gamble to keep AD.

Julius Randle could be great next to towns.

Re: Jimmy Butler has requested a trade
« Reply #72 on: September 19, 2018, 05:58:24 PM »

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Here comes the Irving trade rumors .

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Re: Jimmy Butler has requested a trade
« Reply #73 on: September 19, 2018, 06:24:36 PM »

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Re: Jimmy Butler has requested a trade
« Reply #74 on: September 19, 2018, 06:27:25 PM »

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Would be funny if Raptors trade for him