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Celtics Basketball => Celtics Talk => Topic started by: Tr1boy on November 07, 2017, 12:12:38 PM
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Gives his take in making the clutch 3s in the 4th vs Hawks
https://youtu.be/LkJ4Z3bROzk
Even sounds like an old man lol
At this rate shooting the 3, should be in the 3 pt contest. That would be a treat to see
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Highlights from last nights game
https://youtu.be/6OVAhUlJ4os
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Duplicate
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Sick rookie
highlights vs Hornets. Clutch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zLJKGf2y_0
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While Brown, Smart, Rozier played hard... i mean its painful to see these guys 3-12, 3-11 etc
whatsup with this?
Tatum on the other hand is solid and reliable. He should be the go to guy if Irving is going to be out for a few games. No question
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We already have a few Tatum threads, triboy. I like him a lot too, though.
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There can not be too many Jayson Tatum threads right now.
This kid is the best Celtic rookie since Paul Pierce.
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There can not be too many Jayson Tatum threads right now.
This kid is the best Celtic rookie since Paul Pierce.
He may end the best rookie since Larry Bird. Statistically, Tatum falls a little short of Pierce's rookie year - so far. Pierce was 21 (a year and a half older than Tatum) at the start of his career. Tatum may ultimately prove to be a better rookie than PP when this year is all said and done.
Bird's unapproachable rookie season (21/10/4) began at age 23.
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I always lived playing basketball but when it came to shooting I got nervous in front of a crowd. Even in highschool with like no one in the stands I'd get a little bricky so I tried to do glue stuff and set screens. It BLOWS me away that a 19 yr old kid can look that comfortable on the floor of an NBA game. He's calling for the ball against people who can't guard him I'd be hiding in The corner
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He has the vibe of Klay Thompson to me. The way he can score and play solid defense. Does he hit 40 points in a game this season?
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My favorite bit was Tatum with a wide stance arms wide then flicking his hand forcing Kemba Walker to become defensive and retreat.Quick hands.
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He has the vibe of Klay Thompson to me. The way he can score and play solid defense. Does he hit 40 points in a game this season?
Sure, if these injuries keep piling up. :o
It doesn't seem like they are running plays designed for Jayson, at least yet. He is benefitting from open looks due to attention of other guys. But don't get me wrong, I think JT is supremely talented ands will have monster stat games at some point... It just seems like 40 is unlikely with Irving/Horford out there.
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Tatum upsets me a lot. TAKE KVER THE GAME TATUM! Why is he so scared? Smart is the worse offensive player in NBA history but has the confidence of Kobe. If Tatum stops playing scared and puts up 20 shots a game, I'll be happy.
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He has the vibe of Klay Thompson to me. The way he can score and play solid defense. Does he hit 40 points in a game this season?
Maybe. He's had 3 20+ point games this season and in those games he's attempted 15, 13 and 9 (!) field goals. 15 is the most shots he's taken in any game this season (and he took zero FT's that game). Could he get hot some night in February against a bad team where everyone just keeps feeding the youngster and he hits 40 points on 24 shots or something? Not crazy at all.
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Tatum upsets me a lot. TAKE KVER THE GAME TATUM! Why is he so scared? Smart is the worse offensive player in NBA history but has the confidence of Kobe. If Tatum stops playing scared and puts up 20 shots a game, I'll be happy.
He is a rookie and playing well for a rookie. I don't think he should take a radio station to the game which is what KVER means. JK
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KVER
You have the patience of a pyromaniac.
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Tatum upsets me a lot. TAKE KVER THE GAME TATUM! Why is he so scared? Smart is the worse offensive player in NBA history but has the confidence of Kobe. If Tatum stops playing scared and puts up 20 shots a game, I'll be happy.
Its better Tatum is not forcing it
With Duke, it was evident he had to... And he didnt look comfortable at times
That team didnt have a legit pg, Giles was barely standing. Tatum had to do alot.
CBS and this find the open man Celts offense has been good for Jayson. And his passing skills, 3 pt shooting.... Surprising.
Sweet jump shot stroke.
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This drive in against 2 guys...and around Cody Zeller... Dr. J like? Crazy....at 55 sec
https://youtu.be/9zLJKGf2y_0
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Tatum upsets me a lot. TAKE KVER THE GAME TATUM! Why is he so scared? Smart is the worse offensive player in NBA history but has the confidence of Kobe. If Tatum stops playing scared and puts up 20 shots a game, I'll be happy.
Team ball dude. He's playing within the system, and I see no sign that he's scared. And we're playing winning basketball. Would you rather he take 20 shots and we lose?
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Tatum upsets me a lot. TAKE KVER THE GAME TATUM! Why is he so scared? Smart is the worse offensive player in NBA history but has the confidence of Kobe. If Tatum stops playing scared and puts up 20 shots a game, I'll be happy.
Last thing I want Tatum to do is to take over the game Smart-style. Eeek.
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Tatum upsets me a lot. TAKE KVER THE GAME TATUM! Why is he so scared? Smart is the worse offensive player in NBA history but has the confidence of Kobe. If Tatum stops playing scared and puts up 20 shots a game, I'll be happy.
Last thing I want Tatum to do is to take over the game Smart-style. Eeek.
Same . But i bet he does a better job
What are the chances Tatum grows another inch or two by the end of this season?
Is it me or does he look taller than 6'8? looks like has a longer wingspan than 6'11
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Tatum upsets me a lot. TAKE KVER THE GAME TATUM! Why is he so scared? Smart is the worse offensive player in NBA history but has the confidence of Kobe. If Tatum stops playing scared and puts up 20 shots a game, I'll be happy.
Last thing I want Tatum to do is to take over the game Smart-style. Eeek.
Same . But i bet he does a better job
What are the chances Tatum grows another inch or two by the end of this season?
Is it me or does he look taller than 6'8? looks like has a longer wingspan than 6'11
I'll just throw this out there ...
Lebron James averaged 19, 5, 5, 2, and 1 per 36 his rookie year on 42, 29, 75 shooting.
Durant averaged 21, 5, 3, 1, 1 per 36 his rookie year on 43, 29, 87 shooting.
Tatum is averaging 17, 7, 2, 1, 1 per 36 his rookie year on 50, 50, 83 shooting.
He's 19. Even the best in the game didn't "take over the game" when they were rookies on terrible teams that needed them to score.
Edit: The Celtics thought he'd grow another inch or two because his growth plates hadn't closed. His wingspan has always looked bigger than 6'11'', but I wouldn't say its as big as Giannis 7'4''. Somewhere in the middle.
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Edit: The Celtics thought he'd grow another inch or two because his growth plates hadn't closed. His wingspan has always looked bigger than 6'11'', but I wouldn't say its as big as Giannis 7'4''. Somewhere in the middle.
Growth plates? I haven't heard of this before. How is this tested
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I can;'t stop looking at this drive . 1 vs 3
Sooner or later players will need to back off...then he can hit the jump shot.
thank you Celtics Gods. thank you Brooklyn Nets. i hope you guys win alot of games this season ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vihg465SMds
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Edit: The Celtics thought he'd grow another inch or two because his growth plates hadn't closed. His wingspan has always looked bigger than 6'11'', but I wouldn't say its as big as Giannis 7'4''. Somewhere in the middle.
Growth plates? I haven't heard of this before. How is this tested
Watching the games he looks bigger than 6'8, and I remember there was a thread on here during the summer talking about Brown growing an inch. Brown had said he was 6'8 now and Tatum is taller than brown.
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Edit: The Celtics thought he'd grow another inch or two because his growth plates hadn't closed. His wingspan has always looked bigger than 6'11'', but I wouldn't say its as big as Giannis 7'4''. Somewhere in the middle.
Growth plates? I haven't heard of this before. How is this tested
Watching the games he looks bigger than 6'8, and I remember there was a thread on here during the summer talking about Brown growing an inch. Brown had said he was 6'8 now and Tatum is taller than brown.
So for the season opener, my girl and I were the game's AMEX courtside seats upgrade and it was a fun time. Anyway, we were sitting 2nd row courtside and so I got the best view possible of peoples' heights between plays. There was one time when Tatum and Baynes were standing next to each other, and Tatum couldn't have been more than an inch or so shorter than Baynes (from the top of his head, not the top of his man bun).
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Edit: The Celtics thought he'd grow another inch or two because his growth plates hadn't closed. His wingspan has always looked bigger than 6'11'', but I wouldn't say its as big as Giannis 7'4''. Somewhere in the middle.
Growth plates? I haven't heard of this before. How is this tested
Not a doctor, but I have heard the term thrown around a bit. From what I gather, the growth plates are at the end of the bone. When a person is not finished growing, they tend to be softer.
But I could be talking out of my butt.
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He has the vibe of Klay Thompson to me. The way he can score and play solid defense. Does he hit 40 points in a game this season?
Jayson Tatum is currently 17th in TS% among the 139 players who are qualified for the 3P% leaderboard. He's ahead of Klay Thompson, James Harden and Bradley Beal, just to name a few.
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I watched Tatum a bunch at Duke, and he's gotta be the only player I've ever seen look LONGER against NBA size than D1. It's really amazing how well-suited physically he seems to the game.
He's been incredibly effective in his play too, but I chalk a lot of that up to how well we're using him. He's hasn't made many bad plays, but we put him in few bad situations. His poise and decision making are still very good, but we'll have to see if he can continue when he's shouldering more of the load.
Overall his future looks amazing, his now is extremely useful, and he's in a perfect situation to develop at his own pace. Good times.
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I had a higher opinion of Josh Jackson than Tatum coming out of college. Glad Ainge is calling the shots and not me. Really been impressed by Tatum’s transition to NBA ball. Just feels like he’s going to be a big time scorer. Game looks easy to him.
And he’s only 19.
Wow.
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I️ can honestly see Jayson Tatum being an elite two-way player. He also seems to have the clutch gene.
He is a stud!
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Really happy with Tatum. I don't know what the hell I was doing at 19.
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Highlight vs Raptors
https://youtu.be/tCmbXm_scJM
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The kid is going to be a Celtics All-Time great. He's not even done growing and doesn't even know how to score professionally yet. When he gets in the weight room and then starts posting people up, it's over.
I see flashes of several players...Pippen at times and Pierce at times.
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2017 draft WARP leaderboard
Jayson Tatum 1.2
Lauri Markkanen 0.9
John Collins 0.9
Kyle Kuzma 0.5
OG Anunoby 0.4
Jordan Bell 0.4
Lonzo Ball 0.2
Jonathan Isaac 0.2
Bam Adebayo 0.2
Nobody else positive
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2017 draft WARP leaderboard
Jayson Tatum 1.2
Lauri Markkanen 0.9
John Collins 0.9
Kyle Kuzma 0.5
OG Anunoby 0.4
Jordan Bell 0.4
Lonzo Ball 0.2
Jonathan Isaac 0.2
Bam Adebayo 0.2
Nobody else positive
What is WARP...wins above replacement?
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So Tatum goes from Duke to another top head coach Brad Stevens. The starter at his position, gets knocked out ten seconds into the season and he is starting in the NBA and has no idea what he is doing.
His achievements to now are all just plain talent. Game two he gets the ball on the perimeter and just stares at what's going on and passes out of it. The learning curve begins.
Last night? He gets the ball and drives a seam to the hoop like he's been doing this for awhile.
Shooting form is amazing.
Could he be on a team better suited for him at this stage?
Destiny.
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What is WARP...wins above replacement?
Yup.
Though usually you want to source where you're getting WARP from as its a common enough term that multiple models use it or stuff that sounds like it.
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Skills aside, what I like about Tatum is his maturity and intelligence. A sign of that is that he has adjusted his game to the NBA and plays within himself. (I didn't like his game in summer league, where he slowed things down and made things unnecessary complicated. Now he plays more straight forward). But he's a 19 year old rookie, playing heavy minutes in an 82-96 games season. I hope he doesn't wear out or gets injured along the way.
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Incredible drafting by Ainge. It's very rare for a 19 year-old kid to be the best isolation scorer on one of the best teams in the NBA.
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Incredible drafting by Ainge. It's very rare for a 19 year-old kid to be the best isolation scorer on one of the best teams in the NBA.
This is an odd statement by a guy who has been consistently anti-Irving, especially over the last few days. It seems like you are just trying to inflame another reaction on a different board. Irving is widely regarded as one of the best in the NBA at ISO play. He is certainly best on our team.
I like Tatum. You could argue that he is second on our team, but I don't think you could argue he is first.
As far as the argument for the second best on our team, he has had very few pure ISO plays this season. Most of his points are attacking closeouts on pick-and-rolls or kick-outs. Morris and Horford are probably better right now than Tatum, but Tatum has a much higher ceiling than both guys.
All of that being said, he is at least Otto Porter right now already, which is pretty awesome. Great drafting by Ainge. Sky is the limit in CBS system.
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Last August, there were talks of a Porzingis trade for our first pick. If any of us where in Danny Ainge's position today, would you revisit that exchange? Are we willing to include Tatum in a Porzingis deal? Thanks!
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Last August, there were talks of a Porzingis trade for our first pick. If any of us where in Danny Ainge's position today, would you revisit that exchange? Are we willing to include Tatum in a Porzingis deal? Thanks!
My big concern is Zinger's long-term health. Big guys don't have a great history with foot problems.
Let me put it like this: if I put the over-under at Porzingis having 7.5 more seasons playing at least 55 games, would you pick the over or under?
I'd pick under.
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Incredible drafting by Ainge. It's very rare for a 19 year-old kid to be the best isolation scorer on one of the best teams in the NBA.
Is trolling allowed on this board? Because this is clearly trolling.
Kyrie is, without question or debate, the best ISO scorer on this team. That simply isn't arguable. He is one of the best ISO scorers in the entire league.
It bothers me you continue to post this sort of obvious bait, and then when someone responds, and calls out the foolishness, you report them to the mods.
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Last August, there were talks of a Porzingis trade for our first pick. If any of us where in Danny Ainge's position today, would you revisit that exchange? Are we willing to include Tatum in a Porzingis deal? Thanks!
That's a tough question. Both Zinger & Tatum and Brown's values have both gone up exponentially since the start of the season.
The main issues now are:
*Having Brown & Tatum on rookie deals (Jaylen through 2020 and Tatum through 2021) vs KP through 2019
*KP's injury history
*How valuable our Lakers/Sac/Philly weird pick is
*Projecting Tatum's peak
If Hayward were healthy I probably would but now I think I would pass. Tatum is looking just too good as a 19 year old. He's three years younger than Porzingis.
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Last August, there were talks of a Porzingis trade for our first pick. If any of us where in Danny Ainge's position today, would you revisit that exchange? Are we willing to include Tatum in a Porzingis deal? Thanks!
This is a toughie, but I'd have to say no
JT has looked way too good, and Jaylen has improved dramatically (I think that was what people were considering offer wise)
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Incredible drafting by Ainge. It's very rare for a 19 year-old kid to be the best isolation scorer on one of the best teams in the NBA.
Is trolling allowed on this board? Because this is clearly trolling.
Kyrie is, without question or debate, the best ISO scorer on this team. That simply isn't arguable. He is one of the best ISO scorers in the entire league.
It bothers me you continue to post this sort of obvious bait, and then when someone responds, and calls out the foolishness, you report them to the mods.
What a joke.
It's legitimately past the point of cringeworthy now
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Bumping this cause I didn't know where else to post. Feel free to move the post to another thread if you see fit.
Jayson Tatum will celebrate his 22nd birthday in two weeks.
Tatum is one of only four players in NBA history to tally at least 3,000 points, 1,000 rebounds and 150 made 3PT's before turning 22.
The other three are: LeBron James, Kevin Durant and Kobe Bryant.
Also worth noting Tatum has posted these numbers despite spending a year at Duke.
Total games played before turning 22:
LeBron James: 266
Kobe Bryant: 266
Kevin Durant: 236
Jayson Tatum: 209
https://publish.twitter.com/?query=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FTommyBeer%2Fstatus%2F1230139294720909312&widget=Tweet
Obviously, stars used to stay in college for 3-4 years + nobody was shooting many 3s at the time, but it's still an impressive feat nonetheless. At the very least, he's the first player since KD to reach those numbers at such a young age.
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But ... but I thought Sixer fans thought he was basically a high floor, low ceiling player like Otto Porter that would never get much better.
Sixer tears make me happy.