CelticsStrong

Around the League => Around the NBA => Topic started by: GreenShooter on November 08, 2018, 10:12:25 AM

Title: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: GreenShooter on November 08, 2018, 10:12:25 AM
I apologize if there is already one of these threads but I scanned through the first 5 pages and didn't see one.
Anyways, since we may own the Clippers pick if they make the playoffs we should be watching them closely as we are doing with the Kings and Grizzlies.
The Clippers record currently stands at 6-4 and they're about tied for 5th in the Western Conference. I still think they don't make playoffs as I see the following teams ending up with a better record: Utah, Houston and possibly Minnesota, if they don't give Butler away for nothing. Not sure how LAL will fare either. So this thread could be dead null and void by the all-star break or could go down to the wire if a couple of major injuries hit the upper level teams.
Their next 10 games or so could see them go .500 and keep them out of the lottery standings.
Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: rondofan1255 on November 08, 2018, 01:24:49 PM
I’ll start watching intently if Butler or another star lands there either this year or next
Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: GreenShooter on November 09, 2018, 08:10:09 AM
LAC currently stand at 6-5, having just lost to Portland last night.

Their upcoming schedule is as follows:

vs. Milwaukee
vs. GSW
vs. San Antonio
@ Brooklyn
@ Atlanta
@ Washington

Hoping for at least 3 wins here.
Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: GreenEnvy on November 09, 2018, 08:15:54 AM
LAC currently stand at 6-5, having just lost to Portland last night.

Their upcoming schedule is as follows:

vs. Milwaukee
vs. GSW
vs. San Antonio
@ Brooklyn
@ Atlanta
@ Washington

Hoping for at least 3 wins here.

Tough homestand. Could definitely see them losing all three.

I’m sure they wlll find a way to lose one of those road games.

Even if they go 6-0, they’re not making the playoffs. That pick is done. Just need to stay better than SAC.
Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: rondofan1255 on November 10, 2018, 06:57:42 PM
Might as well be optimistic and hope they are somehow on the bubble in April. LAC defeated MIL 126-124 in OT. Bledsoe hit a stepback 3 to send the game to OT. Lou Williams then hit the game winner, an off-balance contested layup with 0.3 seconds left.

Record now 7-5!  ;) At the time of this post, SAC BOS and LAC are all 7-5!  ;D
Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: Birdman on November 10, 2018, 07:57:51 PM
who would thought Kings and Celtics have same record after 12 games 😒
Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: rondofan1255 on November 10, 2018, 08:06:15 PM
Celtics will get it together eventually lol
Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: rondofan1255 on November 13, 2018, 01:26:32 AM
Clippers beat Curry-less GSW in OT. 8-5 now.  :D
Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: hodgy03038 on November 13, 2018, 07:27:45 AM
Maybe there should be a Celtics watch thread because all the other teams we are watching Clippers, Kings, Grizzlies are doing better or about the same as the Celts and they are in the West? :o
Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: MattyIce on November 13, 2018, 01:28:23 PM
Maybe there should be a Celtics watch thread because all the other teams we are watching Clippers, Kings, Grizzlies are doing better or about the same as the Celts and they are in the West? :o

IF they had our picks then they would have threads like those, we have their picks so we have these threads.
Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: rondofan1255 on November 14, 2018, 03:08:17 PM
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander (2018 #11 pick) has started the last four games. Looks like Doc is committed to starting SGA, a rookie (!!!!), even when AB comes back.

Quote
#Clippers' coach Doc Rivers on starting Shai Gilgeous-Alexander vs. #Wolves - "It was great. Shai was going to start whether Avery [Bradley] was healthy or not. We were going to move the lineup around cuz I think it's time for him to start. I thought Shai was fantastic."

https://twitter.com/TomerAzarly/status/1060731920181391361

Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: MattyIce on November 16, 2018, 01:31:00 AM
clips win 3 in a row, 4th seed
Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: rondofan1255 on November 17, 2018, 11:54:41 PM
you know it's early in the season when the clippers at 10-5 are tied for the #2 seed in the west

 ;D
Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: gouki88 on November 18, 2018, 02:28:37 AM
you know it's early in the season when the clippers at 10-5 are tied for the #2 seed in the west

 ;D
Doc is back as a premier coach! ;D
Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: rondofan1255 on November 18, 2018, 12:52:20 PM
you know it's early in the season when the clippers at 10-5 are tied for the #2 seed in the west

 ;D
Doc is back as a premier coach! ;D

coach of the year frontrunner if they miraculously make the playoffs!  ;D
Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: hpantazo on November 18, 2018, 01:07:02 PM
you know it's early in the season when the clippers at 10-5 are tied for the #2 seed in the west

 ;D
Doc is back as a premier coach! ;D

coach of the year frontrunner if they miraculously make the playoffs!  ;D

He loves coaching old guys, but he's actually very good at coaching young teams.
Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: rondofan1255 on November 20, 2018, 12:35:56 AM
clips beat atlanta 127-119

11-5, tied for #1 seed in the west

Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: smokeablount on November 20, 2018, 06:49:40 AM
clips beat atlanta 127-119

11-5, tied for #1 seed in the west

So did we decide, is this good?  Surely they can't last as a #1 or even #5 seed in the West, but with a start like this maybe they sneak in the playoffs and we get a 1st, not a future 2nd?
Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: willyd24 on November 20, 2018, 07:14:17 AM
clips beat atlanta 127-119

11-5, tied for #1 seed in the west

So did we decide, is this good?  Surely they can't last as a #1 or even #5 seed in the West, but with a start like this maybe they sneak in the playoffs and we get a 1st, not a future 2nd?

Of course this is good, would much rather get a late 1st than a couple of 2nds. Obviously making the playoffs in the West will be tough but 11-5 is a good start. They also have more winnable games in the coming weeks.
Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: jambr380 on November 20, 2018, 07:16:01 AM
clips beat atlanta 127-119

11-5, tied for #1 seed in the west

So did we decide, is this good?  Surely they can't last as a #1 or even #5 seed in the West, but with a start like this maybe they sneak in the playoffs and we get a 1st, not a future 2nd?

It most definitely is a good thing - a 1st is obviously better than a 2nd.

It would be great if they finished up around 7th or 8th in the WC, but I will take them finishing where they are now over getting the ~#40 pick next year.
Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: rondofan1255 on November 20, 2018, 06:45:45 PM
Extra reason to watch some clips tonight is that they’re playing the wizards  :D

Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: rondofan1255 on November 20, 2018, 07:35:12 PM
could hear Wiz fans booing at 36-18 Clips... 38-18 now!
Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: rondofan1255 on November 27, 2018, 03:56:51 PM
Weekly update, LAC (13-6) is currently in the #28 slot.
Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: rondofan1255 on November 29, 2018, 12:51:58 AM
14-6

Clips win 115-99 vs. PHO
Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: 10610786d on November 29, 2018, 02:21:55 AM
you know it's early in the season when the clippers at 10-5 are tied for the #2 seed in the west

 ;D
Doc is back as a premier coach! ;D

coach of the year frontrunner if they miraculously make the playoffs!  ;D

He loves coaching old guys, but he's actually very good at coaching young teams.

This is a young and ferocious Clippers team though. SGA and Montrezl Harrell are keystone players (I've heard).

I wonder deep down if many of the roster decisions were influenced by Doc during his years here.

Jerry West + Doc Rivers seems like a helluva team. Doc stays off making any roster decisions, and focuses on coaching.
Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: rondofan1255 on November 30, 2018, 01:14:57 AM
On SEGABABA, Clips def. Kings 133-121  :o

15-6 now!
Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: GreenEnvy on November 30, 2018, 01:41:18 AM
Double win for us tonight. All aboard the Clip-Train!

Choo-choo!!!!
Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: trickybilly on November 30, 2018, 02:26:05 AM
Everything going very nicely with the Clips pick. No incentive to tank yet, given their record - they only need to go at .500 until the trade deadline to prevent the tank, and be in the hunt for a playoff spot.

Pat Beverly was such a nice piece to get back in that CP3 trade. Watching him and Avery on the court together is something to behold. I won't be surprised if Clips even look at upgrading Gortat or Mike Scott (although they've both been playing pretty great too).
Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 30, 2018, 03:20:14 AM
clips beat atlanta 127-119

11-5, tied for #1 seed in the west

So did we decide, is this good?  Surely they can't last as a #1 or even #5 seed in the West, but with a start like this maybe they sneak in the playoffs and we get a 1st, not a future 2nd?

It most definitely is a good thing - a 1st is obviously better than a 2nd.

It would be great if they finished up around 7th or 8th in the WC, but I will take them finishing where they are now over getting the ~#40 pick next year.

I may be incorrect but I thought Clips pick is a 1st protected pick this year OR next year before it conveys as a second if not yet conveyed.
Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: GreenEnvy on November 30, 2018, 03:53:22 AM
clips beat atlanta 127-119

11-5, tied for #1 seed in the west

So did we decide, is this good?  Surely they can't last as a #1 or even #5 seed in the West, but with a start like this maybe they sneak in the playoffs and we get a 1st, not a future 2nd?

It most definitely is a good thing - a 1st is obviously better than a 2nd.

It would be great if they finished up around 7th or 8th in the WC, but I will take them finishing where they are now over getting the ~#40 pick next year.

I may be incorrect but I thought Clips pick is a 1st protected pick this year OR next year before it conveys as a second if not yet conveyed.

Nope, this is it.

Lottery protected and if it doesn’t convey, it turns into a second.

So it could be anywhere from 15-44.
Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: GreenShooter on November 30, 2018, 07:22:00 AM
Everything going very nicely with the Clips pick. No incentive to tank yet, given their record - they only need to go at .500 until the trade deadline to prevent the tank, and be in the hunt for a playoff spot.

Pat Beverly was such a nice piece to get back in that CP3 trade. Watching him and Avery on the court together is something to behold. I won't be surprised if Clips even look at upgrading Gortat or Mike Scott (although they've both been playing pretty great too).
Yes, to my surprise. But they clearly can't afford any injuries or down they go in the competitive West. Just look at the teams they have to fend of. No easy task. They have to keep playing well.
Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: footey on November 30, 2018, 07:30:49 AM
They keep playing like this the rest of the season Doc will be coach of the year.
Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: GreenShooter on November 30, 2018, 01:52:11 PM
They keep playing like this the rest of the season Doc will be coach of the year.
and if the Celtics keep playing like this Doc will be coach of the C's.
Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: rondofan1255 on December 03, 2018, 11:59:42 PM
16-7

Clippers defeated Pelicans 129-126

Tobias Harris named Western Conference POTM, Doc coach of the month




Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: SHAQATTACK on December 04, 2018, 12:29:19 AM
They keep playing like this the rest of the season Doc will be coach of the year.
and if the Celtics keep playing like this Doc will be coach of the C's.

and.....He " would " do that you know ..... :o
Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: rondofan1255 on December 04, 2018, 12:32:01 AM
2015 LAC 1st from the Doc Rivers trade did become #28 RJ Hunter

Better luck this time if they make the playoffs?

Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: GreenEnvy on December 04, 2018, 01:43:54 AM
2015 LAC 1st from the Doc Rivers trade did become #28 RJ Hunter

Better luck this time if they make the playoffs?

I mean, even if it’s the 44th pick, could it be much worse than RJ?
Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: CelticsElite on December 04, 2018, 01:55:07 AM
2015 LAC 1st from the Doc Rivers trade did become #28 RJ Hunter

Better luck this time if they make the playoffs?
that was 1 slot away from being nance jr
Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: rondofan1255 on December 05, 2018, 01:14:18 PM
Big game tonight at Memphis
Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: GreenShooter on December 05, 2018, 01:59:21 PM
2015 LAC 1st from the Doc Rivers trade did become #28 RJ Hunter

Better luck this time if they make the playoffs?

I mean, even if it’s the 44th pick, could it be much worse than RJ?
Not a chance, the money's not guaranteed :)
Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: GreenShooter on December 24, 2018, 08:13:57 AM
I just posted in the Memphis season thread and I thought I'd post here as well.
We own the Clippers pick (2019 draft) if it's not in the lottery or it rolls over until next year. If they don't make the playoffs next year we get their 2nd rounder in 2020.
Like Memphis LAC has been on a downward slide but right now the pick would still convey (#20 as of today). We're likely to get their first rounder eventually as they are a strong contender to land a significant free agent next summer.
Where does everyone stand regarding getting their pick this upcoming draft or in 2020? I'd prefer their pick this year because of what I said about them landing a FA next summer and being a top 4 team in the West with their pick likely in the mid/late 20's.
Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: CelticsElite on January 17, 2019, 01:10:15 AM
This pick is slowly coming close to being in the lottery and being sent to the clips


Keep losing doc!
Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: trickybilly on January 17, 2019, 04:45:57 AM
This pick is slowly coming close to being in the lottery and being sent to the clips


Keep losing doc!

? I don't get it
Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: JBcat on January 17, 2019, 06:21:32 AM
I just posted in the Memphis season thread and I thought I'd post here as well.
We own the Clippers pick (2019 draft) if it's not in the lottery or it rolls over until next year. If they don't make the playoffs next year we get their 2nd rounder in 2020.
Like Memphis LAC has been on a downward slide but right now the pick would still convey (#20 as of today). We're likely to get their first rounder eventually as they are a strong contender to land a significant free agent next summer.
Where does everyone stand regarding getting their pick this upcoming draft or in 2020? I'd prefer their pick this year because of what I said about them landing a FA next summer and being a top 4 team in the West with their pick likely in the mid/late 20's.

It’s not a guarantee they land a top FA (see Paul George) so I would want it to convey this year.
Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: GreenShooter on January 31, 2019, 09:08:34 AM
So it looks like the Clippers will be fighting it out for the last playoff spot in West, likely with the Lakers. I'd guess it's a 50/50 chance, or less, the pick conveys this year. I'm not including the Kings until I see what happens through the month of February, as their schedule is loaded with tough teams.
Supposedly, there's a good chance they sign a significant free agent this summer so we could still get their pick in 2020 if it falls out of the lottery. Otherwise, we get their 2nd rounder.
 
It also looks like we'll have to start a 2019-2020 Memphis watch thread pretty soon (haha) as we are very unlikely to get their pick this year. It's top 6 protected next year and unprotected in 2021 (yeeaaahhh boooyyyyy!)
Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: Birdman on January 31, 2019, 10:20:09 AM
looks like Memphis gotta struggle next 3 years so 2021 first pick maybe??
Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: Big333223 on January 31, 2019, 10:25:33 AM
The Clips are holding this 2 game lead on the Lakers and are only a half a game behind Utah for 7th. But Lebron is going to come back at some point (isn't he?) so that'll make it tougher to hold that spot.

Let's go Clippers!
Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: rondofan1255 on February 06, 2019, 02:28:32 AM
Tobias Harris traded for picks and Shamet. See you next year.  :)
Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: MattyIce on February 06, 2019, 02:50:53 AM
Tobias Harris traded for picks and Shamet. See you next year.  :)

or maybe they are trading for davis with those picks and then signing kawhi
Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: MJohnnyboy on February 06, 2019, 03:07:54 AM
LET'S GO GET PATRICK BEVERLEY!
Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: SparzWizard on February 06, 2019, 03:14:06 AM
Tobias Harris traded for picks and Shamet. See you next year.  :)

or maybe they are trading for davis with those picks and then signing kawhi

Or Davis and Kyrie in LA.

LA Clippers that is.
Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: Silky on February 06, 2019, 06:47:00 AM
All joking aside...I can see the clippera pushing hard for Davis right now.

Lots of picks, SGA and expirings.

Then sign Leonard in offseason.

I mean thats what I would try for.
Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: SHAQATTACK on February 06, 2019, 09:34:49 AM
All joking aside...I can see the clippera pushing hard for Davis right now.

Lots of picks, SGA and expirings.

Then sign Leonard in offseason.

I mean thats what I would try for.

I agree , I think they want to end up with AD and one of KD or Kawhi

I think Boston is now 2 fiddle to LAC in getting AD . 

KD could solve alot of this by deciding to stay in GS .
Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: Atzar on February 06, 2019, 10:14:53 AM
All joking aside...I can see the clippera pushing hard for Davis right now.

Lots of picks, SGA and expirings.

Then sign Leonard in offseason.

I mean thats what I would try for.

I don't think they have a competitive offer for Davis, personally.  SGA is a decent prospect, but if I'm NOP, I need a better centerpiece than that.  You don't settle for a package built around SGA when guys like Tatum and potentially Zion are on the table. 

Agree that they're in good shape for free agency, though. 
Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: Big333223 on February 06, 2019, 10:56:14 AM
I'm surprised. I did not expect a team fighting for a playoff spot to trade their best player for picks. It's a good haul for them, though.

Now we have to root for the Clips to sign some big free agents this summer so that pick can still be something.
Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: bdm860 on February 06, 2019, 10:52:18 PM
I'm going to go against the grain here and say the Clippers will finish out the season strong.

I know he's not everyone's favorite coach here, but Doc Rivers isn't one to tank unless his hand is really forced.

He won COY in '00 when he lead a Magic team everyone thought would be one of the worst in the league to 41-41.  The Magic were rebuilding, having lost/trading away vets like Penny Hardaway, Nick Anderson, Horace Grant, Dominque Wilkins, Ike Austin, etc.   Their most depended on players (based on total minutes) were Darrell Armstrong and Bo Outlaw.  Doc got them to .500.  To realize how remarkable this was, in the 56 years of the award, only 2 other coaches have had an equally bad or worse record and won COY and that was in '67 and '78.  So for Doc to win COY going 41-41, you know expectations had to be low.

Now the 2 years in Boston he had losing records ('06 and '07) he was saddled with young players.  Doc is at his best when he's coaching vets, and that's what LAC currently still has for most of their rotation: Gallinaro, Bradley, Beverley, Williams, Gortat, Chandler, Muscala, etc.

I don't know if they'll finish in the playoffs, but they'll finish above .500.  That's my prediction.
Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: keevsnick on February 06, 2019, 11:36:26 PM
I'm surprised. I did not expect a team fighting for a playoff spot to trade their best player for picks. It's a good haul for them, though.

Now we have to root for the Clips to sign some big free agents this summer so that pick can still be something.

From what  I've heard just from podcasts and stuff, they seem to be the front runner for Kawhi Leonard.
Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: rondofan1255 on March 09, 2019, 01:05:23 AM
Lou Williams Should win 6MOY IMO
Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: Vox_Populi on March 09, 2019, 08:26:26 AM
The Clippers are a hilariously competent and competitive team. I honestly thought the Harris trade would end them. My mistake.
Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: Neurotic Guy on March 09, 2019, 08:33:40 AM
I'm surprised. I did not expect a team fighting for a playoff spot to trade their best player for picks. It's a good haul for them, though.

Now we have to root for the Clips to sign some big free agents this summer so that pick can still be something.

From what  I've heard just from podcasts and stuff, they seem to be the front runner for Kawhi Leonard.

How great would that be?  I’d feel bad for Toronto fans - their organization took a respectable risk and these geographic preference moves suck for the league, but obviously it helps the C’s.  The other great thing is to see the Clips beat the Lakers to the great player for once.
Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: footey on March 09, 2019, 08:34:15 AM
I'm going to go against the grain here and say the Clippers will finish out the season strong.

I know he's not everyone's favorite coach here, but Doc Rivers isn't one to tank unless his hand is really forced.

He won COY in '00 when he lead a Magic team everyone thought would be one of the worst in the league to 41-41.  The Magic were rebuilding, having lost/trading away vets like Penny Hardaway, Nick Anderson, Horace Grant, Dominque Wilkins, Ike Austin, etc.   Their most depended on players (based on total minutes) were Darrell Armstrong and Bo Outlaw.  Doc got them to .500.  To realize how remarkable this was, in the 56 years of the award, only 2 other coaches have had an equally bad or worse record and won COY and that was in '67 and '78.  So for Doc to win COY going 41-41, you know expectations had to be low.

Now the 2 years in Boston he had losing records ('06 and '07) he was saddled with young players.  Doc is at his best when he's coaching vets, and that's what LAC currently still has for most of their rotation: Gallinaro, Bradley, Beverley, Williams, Gortat, Chandler, Muscala, etc.

I don't know if they'll finish in the playoffs, but they'll finish above .500.  That's my prediction.

3 of the players you list are no longer with the team.
Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: rondofan1255 on March 26, 2019, 09:15:26 PM
Chance to officially clinch a playoff spot tonight. Up 20 at the half.
Title: Re: LA Clippers 2018-19 Season Watch Thread
Post by: Big333223 on March 27, 2019, 11:49:29 AM
Chance to officially clinch a playoff spot tonight. Up 20 at the half.

Clinched. Somehow they're in the 5th seed and actually a game better than the Celtics.

This NBA is crazy.