The new Spiderman will flop, I think. Not a lot of positive buzz around it. The market's pretty saturated with superhero movies, and people aren't going to be too excited about a reboot of a series that started 10 years ago.
Batman will make a boatload of money, and Avengers will probably do well too, but not quite as well.
Batman: Dark Knight Rises. Not even a question.
In terms of box office gross?
1) Batman
2) Avengers
3) Spiderman
I'm all set with spider man, far too soon for that reboot. I just don't care to see the orgin story for the second time in what...8 years?Apparently Sony has to keep pumping out movies every so often otherwise Marvel will get the film rights back. They only rebooted because 3 was such a mess and so were all the spec scripts for 4 and the actors didn't want to do it.
I'm pumped for both the dark knight rises and the avengers. Been hearing awesome things about the avengers and nolan doesn't disapoint so im sure both those will be awesome!
I'm all set with spider man, far too soon for that reboot. I just don't care to see the orgin story for the second time in what...8 years?Apparently Sony has to keep pumping out movies every so often otherwise Marvel will get the film rights back. They only rebooted because 3 was such a mess and so were all the spec scripts for 4 and the actors didn't want to do it.
I'm pumped for both the dark knight rises and the avengers. Been hearing awesome things about the avengers and nolan doesn't disapoint so im sure both those will be awesome!
So expect constant spider man films till they stop making money...
I'm all set with spider man, far too soon for that reboot. I just don't care to see the orgin story for the second time in what...8 years?Apparently Sony has to keep pumping out movies every so often otherwise Marvel will get the film rights back. They only rebooted because 3 was such a mess and so were all the spec scripts for 4 and the actors didn't want to do it.
I'm pumped for both the dark knight rises and the avengers. Been hearing awesome things about the avengers and nolan doesn't disapoint so im sure both those will be awesome!
So expect constant spider man films till they stop making money...
That's why they keep rolling out x-men movies and there are always an appearance by Wolverine.
Plus Wolverine is awesome and lives forever so it makes it easier. I mean seriously, who doesn't love Wolverine and Hugh Jackman was perfectly cast.I'm all set with spider man, far too soon for that reboot. I just don't care to see the orgin story for the second time in what...8 years?Apparently Sony has to keep pumping out movies every so often otherwise Marvel will get the film rights back. They only rebooted because 3 was such a mess and so were all the spec scripts for 4 and the actors didn't want to do it.
I'm pumped for both the dark knight rises and the avengers. Been hearing awesome things about the avengers and nolan doesn't disapoint so im sure both those will be awesome!
So expect constant spider man films till they stop making money...
That's why they keep rolling out x-men movies and there are always an appearance by Wolverine.
I'm honestly getting jittery because I'm so anxious to see The Avengers.
The previous Spiderman movies also pulled in women by having people who can act and the prominence of a genuine romance.The new Spiderman will flop, I think. Not a lot of positive buzz around it. The market's pretty saturated with superhero movies, and people aren't going to be too excited about a reboot of a series that started 10 years ago.
Batman will make a boatload of money, and Avengers will probably do well too, but not quite as well.
One factor here, The female lead being played by Emma Stone. My girlfriend wants to see it just because of that, then the other night she talked about it when we were out with friends and several other girls agreed. Could be an x-factor
I am avengers fully declared fan
I need more and more and more and more of the teamed up superheroes
League of Justice i cant wait.................
p.s. Isnt spidey a new avenger............ :x
Actually I'm expecting the Hobbit to blow away all three
Shut yo mouth!Actually I'm expecting the Hobbit to blow away all three
The Nolan Batman trilogy (at least so far) is as great as the LOTR trilogy (at least the extended editions)
have to agree to a point. LOTR is better. Batman movies so far have been great superhero movies but LOTR was better. One major reason it's better is that it had to live up to the unbelievable quality of the books whereas none of the superhero movies have that restriction.Shut yo mouth!Actually I'm expecting the Hobbit to blow away all three
The Nolan Batman trilogy (at least so far) is as great as the LOTR trilogy (at least the extended editions)
I give you Dark Knight was unreal in the realm of superhero films, but I'm thinking 100 years from now people will be watching LOTR and not so much Dark Knight.
I liked Batman Begins but didn't see it as masterpiece or anything. Dark Knight's greatness is entirely dependent on Heath Ledger's virtuoso acting (that may be the thing studied 100 years from now) and to a lesser extent to very very good writing, and I don't think that will repeat like that.have to agree to a point. LOTR is better. Batman movies so far have been great superhero movies but LOTR was better. One major reason it's better is that it had to live up to the unbelievable quality of the books whereas none of the superhero movies have that restriction.Shut yo mouth!Actually I'm expecting the Hobbit to blow away all three
The Nolan Batman trilogy (at least so far) is as great as the LOTR trilogy (at least the extended editions)
I give you Dark Knight was unreal in the realm of superhero films, but I'm thinking 100 years from now people will be watching LOTR and not so much Dark Knight.
Avengers...and I hope the makers don't goon it up.
Looking forward to the next Superman movie as well. He needs to fight Doomsday in this one.
Avengers is the greatest comic book movie of all time.After seeing it yesterday I have to agree with you but we'll have to see how it holds up. It was great to see the Hulk utilized perfectly. The two other Hulk movies were not great. I'm glad they didn't screw this up, there was way too much riding on it.
Wow, I must be the only one on the planet that thought the Avengers was just 'decent'. And I was one of the few who laughed at the Legolas joke.
Anyhoo, I'm hoping the Dark Knight does a good job at continuing the series, though that's a high standard to follow up on.
The characters were developed in their own movies. This is the first Avengers movie but there were five movies leading up to it: Thor, Capt America, Hulk and Iron Man 1 and 2. Much of the story was developed in Thor and the characters in each movie.Wow, I must be the only one on the planet that thought the Avengers was just 'decent'. And I was one of the few who laughed at the Legolas joke.
Anyhoo, I'm hoping the Dark Knight does a good job at continuing the series, though that's a high standard to follow up on.
I'm with you Kiorrik. I only thought it was decent as well. I thought the action scenes were great but the story and characters could have been more developed.
Joss Wheadon is about to be wicked employed.
Joss Wheadon is about to be wicked employed.
Joss was all like, " I don't want to do the next movie. But it should be smaller and more personal." First, that's a mean thing to say when you drop Thanos in the last 30 seconds of the movie. Also, Marvel is just going to drive dump trucks full of money to his front door.
Joss Wheadon is about to be wicked employed.
Joss was all like, " I don't want to do the next movie. But it should be smaller and more personal." First, that's a mean thing to say when you drop Thanos in the last 30 seconds of the movie. Also, Marvel is just going to drive dump trucks full of money to his front door.
Hollywood, AP - Avengers director Joss Wheadon says today that he will not direct, produce, or otherwise make awesome the inevitable Avengers single.
"I just felt like I walked away from my roots by making that movie totally (freaking) rock. I'm gonna go back to what I do best; hiring Nathan Fillion, Eliza Dushku, and Alan Tudyk to be in complicated action-dramas with a heavy dose of humor that are specifically aimed at an impossibly small audience that will adore me."
Reports are starting to filter in from across the country that nerds everywhere have already begun arguing over hypothetical plot points and tangential characters.
Joss Wheadon is about to be wicked employed.
Joss was all like, " I don't want to do the next movie. But it should be smaller and more personal." First, that's a mean thing to say when you drop Thanos in the last 30 seconds of the movie. Also, Marvel is just going to drive dump trucks full of money to his front door.
Joss Wheadon is about to be wicked employed.
Joss was all like, " I don't want to do the next movie. But it should be smaller and more personal." First, that's a mean thing to say when you drop Thanos in the last 30 seconds of the movie. Also, Marvel is just going to drive dump trucks full of money to his front door.
http://comics.ign.com/top-100-villains/47.html
just in case I hate to see their No. 1
but I am pretty much happy with the rest.
Lots of rumors that Thanos will be the bad guy in Thor 2 and may have nothing to do with the next Avengers.
BTW did anyone see the superhero list?
I'm kinda sorta holding out to call "best superhero movie of all time" until I see this fella in one:
(http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/9/97087/2138720-933168_omega_red_02_super.jpg)
But I have to admit, Thanos... that's promising.
Cable, Bishop, holler.Ah noes! Did that get canned? :( :( :(
Also that Deadpool movie starring ryan reynolds would've been awesome.
I didn't even realize that the same actor that played in "The Town" played Hawkeye. He was GREAT as well. I also didn't realize that he had a cameo in Thor.Ugh, the guy looks like a friend of me & my girlfriend. We always joke about it, 'cuz we met the guy on World of Warcraft and his nickname was Smurf. Hence we always call that actor "Smurf".
I believe it is still scheduled for 2014.Cable, Bishop, holler.Ah noes! Did that get canned? :( :( :(
Also that Deadpool movie starring ryan reynolds would've been awesome.
Just four days after my sons and I saw Avengers, my youngest one is STILL wanting to see it again, which is unheard of for him.Yeah Jeremy Renner is sent up high when Thor first tries to get the hammer when he comes to earth. I didn't realize he was Hawkeye until I saw he was cast as Hawkeye in the Avengers. They certainly didn't make it clear that was his role and I believe only true die hard Avengers fans would have caught it.
I haven't had this much fun at the movies since the first Matrix and Spiderman 2.
I won't spoil Avengers for those who haven't seen it, but man! Those intra-squad fights were ON POINT...nothing untrue to the comic books.
Just Awesome.
Samuel L. Jackson played a GREAT Nick Fury, too.
I didn't even realize that the same actor that played in "The Town" played Hawkeye. He was GREAT as well. I also didn't realize that he had a cameo in Thor.
Anxiously awaiting the next Avengers.
Dang. That's pretty far off.I believe it is still scheduled for 2014.Cable, Bishop, holler.Ah noes! Did that get canned? :( :( :(
Also that Deadpool movie starring ryan reynolds would've been awesome.
For some reason, I caught it, actually. I think it was both the fact that it was that actor (he's too big to be a random person) and how he acted.Just four days after my sons and I saw Avengers, my youngest one is STILL wanting to see it again, which is unheard of for him.Yeah Jeremy Renner is sent up high when Thor first tries to get the hammer when he comes to earth. I didn't realize he was Hawkeye until I saw he was cast as Hawkeye in the Avengers. They certainly didn't make it clear that was his role and I believe only true die hard Avengers fans would have caught it.
I haven't had this much fun at the movies since the first Matrix and Spiderman 2.
I won't spoil Avengers for those who haven't seen it, but man! Those intra-squad fights were ON POINT...nothing untrue to the comic books.
Just Awesome.
Samuel L. Jackson played a GREAT Nick Fury, too.
I didn't even realize that the same actor that played in "The Town" played Hawkeye. He was GREAT as well. I also didn't realize that he had a cameo in Thor.
Anxiously awaiting the next Avengers.
Yep still scheduled for 2014, there are rumors there will be an Ant Man and Nick Fury movie both also out in 2014. Cap Am 2, Spiderman 2, and X-Men First Class 2 are all also supposed to be out in 2014. Next year is supposed to be pretty busy as well with Thor 2, Iron Man 3, Wolverine 2, the Flash, a new Superman reboot, and a new Fantastic Four reboot.Dang. That's pretty far off.I believe it is still scheduled for 2014.Cable, Bishop, holler.Ah noes! Did that get canned? :( :( :(
Also that Deadpool movie starring ryan reynolds would've been awesome.
Cable, Bishop, Apocalypse, a *decent* Gambit, Deadpool, Omega Red, Spiderman Noir, Thanos, Mr Sinister and perhaps a grown-up version of rogue that resembles rogue from the cartoons :p
Any of those in a movie would be nice.
Ive seen it mentioned and I want to second it, but any movie with a good Gambit would be a must see in my opinion. Hands down the best X-men character.I actually didn't mind him in Wolverine. I mean obviously it was a supporting role, but I didn't mind the take on him or the actor that played him.
For some reason, I caught it, actually. I think it was both the fact that it was that actor (he's too big to be a random person) and how he acted.Just four days after my sons and I saw Avengers, my youngest one is STILL wanting to see it again, which is unheard of for him.Yeah Jeremy Renner is sent up high when Thor first tries to get the hammer when he comes to earth. I didn't realize he was Hawkeye until I saw he was cast as Hawkeye in the Avengers. They certainly didn't make it clear that was his role and I believe only true die hard Avengers fans would have caught it.
I haven't had this much fun at the movies since the first Matrix and Spiderman 2.
I won't spoil Avengers for those who haven't seen it, but man! Those intra-squad fights were ON POINT...nothing untrue to the comic books.
Just Awesome.
Samuel L. Jackson played a GREAT Nick Fury, too.
I didn't even realize that the same actor that played in "The Town" played Hawkeye. He was GREAT as well. I also didn't realize that he had a cameo in Thor.
Anxiously awaiting the next Avengers.
Cable, Bishop, holler.
Also that Deadpool movie starring ryan reynolds would've been awesome.
The Avengera has set a new bar Of standards when it comes to comic book movies. Here's hoping Spider-man and The Dark Knight Rises will be epic as well.I gotta say that I was dead set against another spiderman reboot, thought the casting in the last trilogy was spot on. But after seeing the trailer for the new movie, I think it is VERY promising!
Ive seen it mentioned and I want to second it, but any movie with a good Gambit would be a must see in my opinion. Hands down the best X-men character.
Ive seen it mentioned and I want to second it, but any movie with a good Gambit would be a must see in my opinion. Hands down the best X-men character.
I always thought Sawyer from Lost would make an excellent Gambit.
DC needs to get on the ball.actually Warner Bros. is working on a script for the Justice League (although they tried to do this in 2008 and it didn't work out so who knows what will come of it).
No Justice League movie?
Just sad.
They could always take some pieces from the JLU cartoon from a few years ago. The makers of the Green Lantern movie were even kind enough to introduce Amanda Waller (CADMUS).
Marvel's completed Elektra, Captain America, Iron Man, Thor, DareDevil, Ghost Rider, several Hulk movies, FF4's, X-men...and now Avengers.
DC: Superman, Batman, Green Lantern....and Jonah Hex??
C'mon, DC!
Ive seen it mentioned and I want to second it, but any movie with a good Gambit would be a must see in my opinion. Hands down the best X-men character.
I always thought Sawyer from Lost would make an excellent Gambit.
Good call
DC needs to get on the ball.actually Warner Bros. is working on a script for the Justice League (although they tried to do this in 2008 and it didn't work out so who knows what will come of it).
No Justice League movie?
Just sad.
They could always take some pieces from the JLU cartoon from a few years ago. The makers of the Green Lantern movie were even kind enough to introduce Amanda Waller (CADMUS).
Marvel's completed Elektra, Captain America, Iron Man, Thor, DareDevil, Ghost Rider, several Hulk movies, FF4's, X-men...and now Avengers.
DC: Superman, Batman, Green Lantern....and Jonah Hex??
C'mon, DC!
Not a good enough actor. Gambit is a hard part because of what an energetic personality is while at the same time being completely guarded.
QuoteNot a good enough actor. Gambit is a hard part because of what an energetic personality is while at the same time being completely guarded.
http://cultpress.blogspot.com/2006/11/producer-wants-sawyer-for-gambit.html
http://www.superherohype.com/features/articles/93639-josh-hollowaygambit-rumor-resurfaces
I have read multiple articles about Josh being slated for Gambit. You must have never watched much Lost because I think he could nail this role.
QuoteNot a good enough actor. Gambit is a hard part because of what an energetic personality is while at the same time being completely guarded.
http://cultpress.blogspot.com/2006/11/producer-wants-sawyer-for-gambit.html
http://www.superherohype.com/features/articles/93639-josh-hollowaygambit-rumor-resurfaces
I have read multiple articles about Josh being slated for Gambit. You must have never watched much Lost because I think he could nail this role.
Watched all of Lost, he simply is not charming or personable enough to be Gambit.
QuoteNot a good enough actor. Gambit is a hard part because of what an energetic personality is while at the same time being completely guarded.
http://cultpress.blogspot.com/2006/11/producer-wants-sawyer-for-gambit.html
http://www.superherohype.com/features/articles/93639-josh-hollowaygambit-rumor-resurfaces
I have read multiple articles about Josh being slated for Gambit. You must have never watched much Lost because I think he could nail this role.
Any X-men movie though would be better without Brian Singer and going with Matthew Vaughn. Vaughn did a much better movie and showed good understanding of the genre. Singer had star casts and still made somewhat bland movies I think. Heck, he even ruined a Superman remake.
A New Gods movie with Orion, Scott Miracle and Darkseid would be awesome. Kirby made those characters though it was for DC. Kirby created a lot of Marvel's characters. He co-created Captain America, Fantastic Four, Hulk and the X-men. He created Darkseid, Doctor Doom, Galactus, Magneto, Thor and Silver Surfer.
DC needs to get on the ball.actually Warner Bros. is working on a script for the Justice League (although they tried to do this in 2008 and it didn't work out so who knows what will come of it).
No Justice League movie?
Just sad.
They could always take some pieces from the JLU cartoon from a few years ago. The makers of the Green Lantern movie were even kind enough to introduce Amanda Waller (CADMUS).
Marvel's completed Elektra, Captain America, Iron Man, Thor, DareDevil, Ghost Rider, several Hulk movies, FF4's, X-men...and now Avengers.
DC: Superman, Batman, Green Lantern....and Jonah Hex??
C'mon, DC!
Man I hope that comes to fruition. DC has the same draw as far as interesting characters as Marvel does. They certainly parallel as far as heros, villians, etc.
Lex Luthor, Darkseid, Braniac, Doomsday, CADMUS...definitely a lot of material to work with.
Just baffling to me why there's been no Flash, Wonderwoman movies, etc.
Ah, thanks for clearing that one up. I did see it happen, and I thought "oh, that must be someone too" but I didn't quite catch *who* exactly :)For some reason, I caught it, actually. I think it was both the fact that it was that actor (he's too big to be a random person) and how he acted.Just four days after my sons and I saw Avengers, my youngest one is STILL wanting to see it again, which is unheard of for him.Yeah Jeremy Renner is sent up high when Thor first tries to get the hammer when he comes to earth. I didn't realize he was Hawkeye until I saw he was cast as Hawkeye in the Avengers. They certainly didn't make it clear that was his role and I believe only true die hard Avengers fans would have caught it.
I haven't had this much fun at the movies since the first Matrix and Spiderman 2.
I won't spoil Avengers for those who haven't seen it, but man! Those intra-squad fights were ON POINT...nothing untrue to the comic books.
Just Awesome.
Samuel L. Jackson played a GREAT Nick Fury, too.
I didn't even realize that the same actor that played in "The Town" played Hawkeye. He was GREAT as well. I also didn't realize that he had a cameo in Thor.
Anxiously awaiting the next Avengers.
Or the fact that he turns down grabbing a gun to grab a bow. The more obscure reference was that the black guy who was fighting with Thor just before that was Luke Cage (Power Man)
Where did you get this list? I hadn't heard of Flash or Shazam, I would like to see those.Yep still scheduled for 2014, there are rumors there will be an Ant Man and Nick Fury movie both also out in 2014. Cap Am 2, Spiderman 2, and X-Men First Class 2 are all also supposed to be out in 2014. Next year is supposed to be pretty busy as well with Thor 2, Iron Man 3, Wolverine 2, the Flash, a new Superman reboot, and a new Fantastic Four reboot.Dang. That's pretty far off.I believe it is still scheduled for 2014.Cable, Bishop, holler.Ah noes! Did that get canned? :( :( :(
Also that Deadpool movie starring ryan reynolds would've been awesome.
Cable, Bishop, Apocalypse, a *decent* Gambit, Deadpool, Omega Red, Spiderman Noir, Thanos, Mr Sinister and perhaps a grown-up version of rogue that resembles rogue from the cartoons :p
Any of those in a movie would be nice.
Also some much lesser known comics like Shazam, Sub-Mariner, etc. are supposedly in various stages of production.
I would disagree with you. And I also watched all of Lost.
I think it was superhero.net or superheromovie.net. Something like that.Where did you get this list? I hadn't heard of Flash or Shazam, I would like to see those.Yep still scheduled for 2014, there are rumors there will be an Ant Man and Nick Fury movie both also out in 2014. Cap Am 2, Spiderman 2, and X-Men First Class 2 are all also supposed to be out in 2014. Next year is supposed to be pretty busy as well with Thor 2, Iron Man 3, Wolverine 2, the Flash, a new Superman reboot, and a new Fantastic Four reboot.Dang. That's pretty far off.I believe it is still scheduled for 2014.Cable, Bishop, holler.Ah noes! Did that get canned? :( :( :(
Also that Deadpool movie starring ryan reynolds would've been awesome.
Cable, Bishop, Apocalypse, a *decent* Gambit, Deadpool, Omega Red, Spiderman Noir, Thanos, Mr Sinister and perhaps a grown-up version of rogue that resembles rogue from the cartoons :p
Any of those in a movie would be nice.
Also some much lesser known comics like Shazam, Sub-Mariner, etc. are supposedly in various stages of production.
Two questions:
1. Which one has the highest N.A. box office (I think it is pretty clear the new Spiderman will finish 3rd, but really have no idea with batman or the avengers)?
2. If you could only go to one in the theater, which would it be?
Kudos to KC for the Power Man reference...I had not thought about that.
Is there any confirmation from Marvel on whether that guy was supposedly Luke Cage? It does make SOME sense...that guy was HUGE...BUT - IF this guy was Luke, that was a POOR showing from him vs Thor.
Luke's not in the same power class as Thor, but he's not swiss cheese, either. They could've done Luke more justice if this was the case.
Kudos to KC for the Power Man reference...I had not thought about that.
Is there any confirmation from Marvel on whether that guy was supposedly Luke Cage? It does make SOME sense...that guy was HUGE...BUT - IF this guy was Luke, that was a POOR showing from him vs Thor.
Luke's not in the same power class as Thor, but he's not swiss cheese, either. They could've done Luke more justice if this was the case.
I'm not sure if he's listed in the credits, but there's only one African American super hero in the Marvel Universe who could trade blows with Thor. Granted, he didn't shout " Sweet Christmas" so it's not a complete give away, but I'm kinda OK with that.
Also there is no way Thor would be fighting Thanos in Thor 2. Thanos is an Avengers movie villain and would be too overwhelming for just a Thor sequel.My guess is he is introduced in Thor 2 as a villain in some capacity and carries over to Avengers 2. You know kind of Loki in Thor 1 and Avengers 1. The producers and what not what to spend the Avengers movies firmly on earth and will have Thor in his movies spend a lot of time off Earth, and thus Thanos makes a lot of sense for a Thor 2 bad guy that is also the bad guy in Avengers 2.
Indeed, I am guessing you didn't like the Avengers. That article was awful and a complete waste of 5 minutes of my life.
Ive seen it mentioned and I want to second it, but any movie with a good Gambit would be a must see in my opinion. Hands down the best X-men character.
I always thought Sawyer from Lost would make an excellent Gambit.
Ive seen it mentioned and I want to second it, but any movie with a good Gambit would be a must see in my opinion. Hands down the best X-men character.
I always thought Sawyer from Lost would make an excellent Gambit.
Josh Holloway would've been an awesome Gambit, and I heard he was in initial talks too but there was some conflict I think with scheduling and he ended up not doing it but you're 100% on and I have always thought the exact same thing.
Haha no I just didn't find any of that funny. Not my type of Humor I guess. Probably not what most people consider as humor. Seems like Nolanite trolling bait.
Now this is funny.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLOps4qA5rM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLOps4qA5rM)
Mads Mikkleson is not a definite yet but they are trying to get him to be a villain.E Weekly says Mads is definite.
Looks like Iron Man 3 will be stacked with Villains but they are all weak compared to Iron man. I wonder if they are all working for the Mandarin gathering the 10 rings for him. Really excited for this movie.
Everybody else is reporting that he is "in talks" but I am definitely hoping that it all falls through. He is an awesome actor.you are right, I misread the EW.com story. He is just in talks.
Just read up on Firepower; sounds like a fun story arc, with [SPOILER] fake death and building a new suit [/SPOILER] seemingly key to that story. Hope they stick with that.
Ashley Hamilton has been cast as the cyborg Firepower in Iron Man 3
Some of the plot details are coming out. It seems pretty interesting. Looks likes the daughter of a Chinese colleague of Stark gets kidnapped and he goes to China to save her, where he meets Coldblood and Mandarin in some capacity. He of course loses the initial battle and is left in a situation with no suit and where he has to use his smarts to get out of it (he also obviously can't call the avengers for help). It will be interesting to see how Firepower plays in and exactly how big a role Mandarin and the Extremis technology play in this movie. Sounds like it will be more about Coldblood and just setting up Mandarin and full scale extremis Ironman for the future.Just read up on Firepower; sounds like a fun story arc, with [SPOILER] fake death and building a new suit [/SPOILER] seemingly key to that story. Hope they stick with that.
Ashley Hamilton has been cast as the cyborg Firepower in Iron Man 3
I am guessing Kingsley will be the Mandarin who was hinted at in the first film. A dude with magic rings. Kingsley has the gravitas to make it work. I mean he was Gandhi, no?Yeah Kingsley is Mandarin. Looks like Guy Pearce is Aldrich Killian (the nano, extremis doctor). James Badge Dale is Eric Savin (coldblood).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandarin_(comics)
I saw the Avengers and will definitely see TDKR, but was planning on skipping Spider-Man.If you like the super hero genre, then you should definitely catch the new spidey. I'm just glad I went on the 4th, so this weekend can be fully devoted to Batman.
But based on the reviews here, I may try to catch it this week.
Avengers was the best Superhero movie of all time.
A little off topic but an entertaining read. The application of physics to Batman.
http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2012/07/comic-book-physics?fb_ref=scn%2Ffb_ec%2Fdown_to_earth&fb_source=profile_multiline (http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2012/07/comic-book-physics?fb_ref=scn%2Ffb_ec%2Fdown_to_earth&fb_source=profile_multiline)
Just saw Dark Knight Rises and it was unbelievable. One of the best films I have EVER seen.
I pretty much agree with you. I do think what Nolan did was awesome, though. The three movies fit together. This wrapped up the story and themes. But the first two were better. The idea of doing a "realistic" portrayal of a popular Superhero seemed revolutionary when "Batman Begins" came out. It was fresh and exciting... a hugely welcome change from the crap Batman movies that proceeded it. The second movie was ALL The Joker.. otherwise it would have felt a little like a rehash. Seriously... take "The JOker" out of "Dark Knight" and it's a weaker story than "Batman Begins". Ledger carried that movie. With this third movie, it definitely feels like more of the same. It's no longer exciting for being "revolutionary", "new" and "fresh"... So it lost a little of what made "Batman Begins" so awesome. And having no Heath Ledger made it lose almost all of what made "Dark Knight" so awesome. Still, as someone with a passing knowledge of the Batman mythos, I found it interesting how they decided to shoehorn famous characters/backstories into the "Nolan world". It was a nice end to the story, but a lot of it was handled a little sloppy.Just saw Dark Knight Rises and it was unbelievable. One of the best films I have EVER seen.
Must not have seen too many movie then...
Now Im a big Batman fan, but the movie was good, NOT UNBELIEVABLE.
I left the theater thinking, that was good. After the Avengers I left saying "holy crap lets see that again now!"
One thing Nolan did was make it too real, and drags out the characters too much. Theres no real inspiring scenes with Batman, kinda fell flat.
It's kinda why Im ready for the next faze of Batman stories, bring in a team that will make the character larger than life.
I pretty much agree with you. I do think what Nolan did was awesome, though. The three movies fit together. This wrapped up the story and themes. But the first two were better. The idea of doing a "realistic" portrayal of a popular Superhero seemed revolutionary when "Batman Begins" came out. It was fresh and exciting... a hugely welcome change from the crap Batman movies that proceeded it. The second movie was ALL The Joker.. otherwise it would have felt a little like a rehash. Seriously... take "The JOker" out of "Dark Knight" and it's a weaker story than "Batman Begins". Ledger carried that movie. With this third movie, it definitely feels like more of the same. It's no longer exciting for being "revolutionary", "new" and "fresh"... So it lost a little of what made "Batman Begins" so awesome. And having no Heath Ledger made it lose almost all of what made "Dark Knight" so awesome. Still, as someone with a passing knowledge of the Batman mythos, I found it interesting how they decided to shoehorn famous characters/backstories into the "Nolan world". It was a nice end to the story, but a lot of it was handled a little sloppy.Just saw Dark Knight Rises and it was unbelievable. One of the best films I have EVER seen.
Must not have seen too many movie then...
Now Im a big Batman fan, but the movie was good, NOT UNBELIEVABLE.
I left the theater thinking, that was good. After the Avengers I left saying "holy crap lets see that again now!"
One thing Nolan did was make it too real, and drags out the characters too much. Theres no real inspiring scenes with Batman, kinda fell flat.
It's kinda why Im ready for the next faze of Batman stories, bring in a team that will make the character larger than life.
I agree that it will be interesting to see how they handle the inevitable reboot of Batman. I really appreciate what Nolan did, but I think the next iteration should try to mirror the comics more. In other words... not highly stylized Burton or dark (crappy) campy Schumacher... not hyper-realistic Nolan. I think the look and feel of the characters should maybe be a bit like the "Arkham City"/"Arkham Asylum" games. Maybe you can just completely do away with the origin story (since we all know it) and just do a true-to-comics Batman movie.
really enjoyed Dark Knight Rises, but yeah hard to match the first one's novelty.SPOILERS:
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LarBrd you called it with the Talia Ras Ghul thing and Blake inheriting Batman's mantle.
Went to Dark Night yesterday and really liked it. I didn't like it as much as the Avengers but they are totally different types of movies.I was obsessed with Superman as a kid. Loved the old movies. As an adult, I have to acknowledge that Superman is a major challenge. Superman is an exceptionally difficult character to do as a film these days and get taken seriously. Very difficult. I think it will suffer the same pitfalls of "Thor" and "Green Lantern"... which is to say that when you base a significant portion of your character on unexplainable magic-esque powers from unrelatable alien worlds... it's very difficult for modern audiences to suspend their disbelief. What I'm saying is... you might be able to come up with a cheesy popcorn flick (like Thor and Green Lantern), but there's no way you're going to come up with a "great" film that is critically acclaimed (like The Dark Knight). I just can't see it happening.
Bane was a good villain but they really messed up his voice, sounded like a cross between Dr Evil and Darth Vader.
The story was great and I think it was a perfect way to end the trilogy.
I wouldn't mind seeing Batman retired for a little while. DC needs to start building some of their other characters. If Marvel can do it I don't see why DC can't. Starting over with Superman is a good start. Hopefully Flash is in the lineup.
Wow, awesome post. I hadn't given much thought on HOW they could make it work, I just hoped they would. I think if they try to make it critically acclaimed it would be pretty tough. I like your second idea better, of making it stylized and in the 60s. That way it becomes timeless and will not look as dated in 10 years. I do know it is a reboot which mostl likely means they are going to show how he came and and show some Krypton. I think the younger audience needs to see this as it hasn't been done well in a movie for 35 years. Smallville and Superman Returns had a flashback but basically copied the 1978 movie. If they can make it interesting and fresh I'd like to see that. They do have Russell Crowe as Superman's father so I think there will be some Krypton. Plus the villains from Superman 2 will be back, General Zod and the girl. I think this will make for some great fights and effects but I just hope it doesn't come off as a remake. I am hopeful they have a fresh story with lots of action. I thought Christopher Nolan was involved as well but I may be wrong. If he is I have high hopes.Went to Dark Night yesterday and really liked it. I didn't like it as much as the Avengers but they are totally different types of movies.I was obsessed with Superman as a kid. Loved the old movies. As an adult, I have to acknowledge that Superman is a major challenge. Superman is an exceptionally difficult character to do as a film these days and get taken seriously. Very difficult. I think it will suffer the same pitfalls of "Thor" and "Green Lantern"... which is to say that when you base a significant portion of your character on unexplainable magic-esque powers from unrelatable alien worlds... it's very difficult for modern audiences to suspend their disbelief. What I'm saying is... you might be able to come up with a cheesy popcorn flick (like Thor and Green Lantern), but there's no way you're going to come up with a "great" film that is critically acclaimed (like The Dark Knight). I just can't see it happening.
Bane was a good villain but they really messed up his voice, sounded like a cross between Dr Evil and Darth Vader.
The story was great and I think it was a perfect way to end the trilogy.
I wouldn't mind seeing Batman retired for a little while. DC needs to start building some of their other characters. If Marvel can do it I don't see why DC can't. Starting over with Superman is a good start. Hopefully Flash is in the lineup.
First, can you think of any modern film that was critically acclaimed while leaning heavily on an alien planet? "Prometheus" was alright, but not great. It succeeded more, because it avoided really explaining much. The Star Wars prequels were weak. "John Carter from Mars" was weak. When you're looking at Azgard in "Thor" or the alien planets in Green Lantern, it's too easy to just check out mentally and think it's ridiculous. My girlfriend brought up "Avatar", but we both acknowledged it was successful mainly because of the otherworldly special effects and innovating techniques. Most critics would acknowledge "Avatar" was sorta a crap story beyond the eye candy. And even then, it's a lot easier to buy into a primitive species on an Alien planet 150 years from now. With "Superman", you probably start the film with some aliens on a distant plant arguing politics.
Then his powers. I love his powers, but his powers are ridiculous. How does he manage to see light and color using his x-ray vision? That's ridiculous. How does one manage to shoot fire out of his eyeballs? That's ridiculous. Pretty much all of the successful superhero films lean on some sort of genetic mutation or advanced technology to allow folks to relate to the story and keep it somewhat grounded in reality. Think of Iron-Man, Hulk, Batman, Captain America, Spider-man... it's all some pseudo science backing it up. Undeniably unrealistic pseudo science, but it's enough for people to latch onto mentally. You can't really use pseudo science to explain Superman. About the only thing they can really say is that he's invulnerable, because his alien body is made up of denser cells or something. That doesn't explain his ability to fly at will and freeze people with super breath. In "Chronicle", they based all their powers on telekinetic ability... since they could move objects with their mind it allowed them to eventually move themselves with their mind. It also benefited heavily by explaining NONE of their origin.
I was thinking there were two paths to potentially make a good Superman movie.
#1 - You keep the character and back story distant from the audience. You don't blatantly explain anything. You don't show Krypton at all. You glimpse his life at different intervals. Basically.. you do "Tree of Life", but with Superman. Less is more. Maybe you eliminate some of his more ridiculous powers. The audience gradually learns he's different... that he's "alien" to this world. And you keep it at that. Think of the first half of "Phenomenon" before John Travolta realizes he has a brain tumor. For part of that movie you buy into his sudden freak abilities and enjoy them without explanation. Maybe that would work. Or, maybe you explain his powers by going "What the Bleep" on it. Some wonky quantom physics or higher level science. Here's what I'm saying... we know that as humans the amount of the world we are actually able to visually see with our eyes is miniscule. Less than 1/1,000,000 of a percent of the electro-magnetic spectrum is visible in light. Someone else much smarter than me could explain this better. Basically... as humans there is very little energy, light, color and particles we see with our human eyes and human brain. There is an entire world in front of us that we don't see. People have talked about this before... that if you go beyond cellular level and start getting into atoms and particles, you realize that everything in this entire world is connected. Technically I could stand 1000 feet away from another person and we'd technically be "touching" via a long string of atoms. Maybe Superman's advanced alien brain and body allows him to visually see more of the electromagnetic spectrum. Maybe he can see and hear energy waves and atomic particles that our eyes are incapable of seeing... perhaps that's how he can see through buildings. You'd need to show a shot from his perspective... and have the world look ENTIRELY different than how we see it. The light, color, depth, energy waves, sound waves... everything entirely visible through his alien eyes. Show that. Maybe the fact that this entire world is connected via atomic energy is the explanation for his ability to fly. It's also the basis for telekinesis, actually. It's the idea that I can move something with my mind, because technically I'm already touching it through energy. Maybe Superman's advanced alien body can grasp ALL of the world we don't see. Problem is, the more you delve into this "Tree of Life"/"What the Bleep" version of Superman... the less it will start to feel like Superman. And then... what's the point? BTW, from the brief trailer I saw of "Man of Steel", i thought it was interesting that the shots actually did remind me a bit of "Tree of Life". I wonder if they are going in that direction. I have very little hope, though. I fear Zach Snyder is a total hack.
#2 - I think this is the second path you could take to make a "critically acclaimed" Superman movie. Set it sometime between the 1930s-60s, make it HIGHLY stylized and forget about trying to shoehorn Superman into a "realistic" world. Just make it really fun, somewhat campy and have a blast with it. For example, if you set it in the 50s during an "innocent' period where people were deftly afraid of flying saucers... it might work. By highly stylized I mean... movies like "Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow". Not a very good movie, but that's what I'm talking about. "Sin City" is another example of a highly stylized movie based on a comic. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying make Superman like "Sin City"... "Sin City" is a very dark comic. I'm just saying "Sin City" is an excellent example of being hyper stylized, based on a comicbook... and still work. You don't have to worry about making Superman fit into "The Dark Knight" world. Just have fun with it. I adored "Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World". It was a fantastic little movie and partially, because it didn't bother with trying to be "real". While I was enjoying the crap out of "Scott Pilgrim", I never stopped to say... "wait a second... these fight sequences don't mesh with the real world". Do that with Superman. Why not? Stay true to Superman. "The Incredibles" was an excellent movie, but it had the benefit of being a computer animated cartoon where expectations are different. I still think you can make a true-to-the-comics over the top comicbook hero movie... you'd just need a capable director who doesn't mind embracing the content for what it is. If done well... it could still be critically acclaimed. I'd love to see a humorous take on the Mad Men era, extremely stylized... with Superman being his badass self without the burden of trying to make sense in the real world. Don't apologize for his ridiculous powers, ridiculous secret identity and ridiculous origin. EMBRACE them and make it as fun as possible. It is entirely possible to make a "great" film based on Superman... you just need to completely change your expectations and go in the complete opposite direction of where the trend is heading.
Basically... would it be so terrible to do a live-action version of the 1940s cartoon... set in the 40s... with all the ridiculous and wonderful aspects that came with it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYMynm63A-k
Why not?
Just my opinion.
Nolan was involved as a producer of "Man of Steel", but the film is being directed by Zach Snyder. Unfortunately, I think Zach Snyder is a total hack. I have very low expectations for the "Man of Steel" movie... which is a darn shame, because I adored Superman as a kid.300 was pretty darn good.
Marvel is currently deciding whether or not to remake a daredevil movie because they just obtained the rights to him from fox. I also heard they are trying to work out a deal with fox to trade daredevil back to fox in exchange for certain villains in the marvel universe. Sounds awesome.
That villain is Galactus, who they want to use in the Avengers. Right now Fox has the rights for the Fantastic 4. Man I sound like a nerd saying this but Galactus in an Avengers movie would be pretty cool.Marvel is currently deciding whether or not to remake a daredevil movie because they just obtained the rights to him from fox. I also heard they are trying to work out a deal with fox to trade daredevil back to fox in exchange for certain villains in the marvel universe. Sounds awesome.
sweet!
depends on how the movie presents Galactus. the comics version may not be acceptable to non-comic-reading movie goers but the version in the Fantastic Four II movie sucked (literally and figuratively).That villain is Galactus, who they want to use in the Avengers. Right now Fox has the rights for the Fantastic 4. Man I sound like a nerd saying this but Galactus in an Avengers movie would be pretty cool.Marvel is currently deciding whether or not to remake a daredevil movie because they just obtained the rights to him from fox. I also heard they are trying to work out a deal with fox to trade daredevil back to fox in exchange for certain villains in the marvel universe. Sounds awesome.
sweet!
I want a Dr Strange film directed by Guillermo del Toro and a Fantastic Four film directed by Brad Bird.while I clearly don't agree with you about the three movies, you might find this interesting
I enjoyed the DK Rises quite a bit. Anne Hathaway, you now have permission to dropkick my face. Fun film. Sleek.
I thought the Spidey reboot was hot garbage. Lizard's design was disappointing. I was hoping for a McFarlane style design but not as extreme. The kid who played Spidey was great in The Red Riding trology and Boy A--he was pretty good here too. I didnt like the high school setting, origin was try-hard.
I hated The Avengers. I thought it was very boring. Special effects fatigue set in quickly. Predictable dialogue, unlikable characters. Snarky.
I dont think film as a medium is very suitable for comics which are serialized. Trying to smash a 14 issue story into 120 minutes compresses everything down like spam in a can. Thats why I like the DC cartoons so much. I wish they would do the same treatment to mature comics, televised in a episodic format rather than a cinematic one.
I want a Dr Strange film directed by Guillermo del Toro and a Fantastic Four film directed by Brad Bird.while I clearly don't agree with you about the three movies, you might find this interesting
I enjoyed the DK Rises quite a bit. Anne Hathaway, you now have permission to dropkick my face. Fun film. Sleek.
I thought the Spidey reboot was hot garbage. Lizard's design was disappointing. I was hoping for a McFarlane style design but not as extreme. The kid who played Spidey was great in The Red Riding trology and Boy A--he was pretty good here too. I didnt like the high school setting, origin was try-hard.
I hated The Avengers. I thought it was very boring. Special effects fatigue set in quickly. Predictable dialogue, unlikable characters. Snarky.
I dont think film as a medium is very suitable for comics which are serialized. Trying to smash a 14 issue story into 120 minutes compresses everything down like spam in a can. Thats why I like the DC cartoons so much. I wish they would do the same treatment to mature comics, televised in a episodic format rather than a cinematic one.
http://popwatch.ew.com/2012/08/29/shield-tv-show-joss-whedon-thoughts/ (http://popwatch.ew.com/2012/08/29/shield-tv-show-joss-whedon-thoughts/)
Marvel’s Phase Two, which starts in May with Iron Man 3 and includes Thor: The Dark World, Captain America: The Winter Soldier, Ant-Man, Guardians of the Galaxy and, of course, The Avengers 2
Marvel is finally releasing the Phase 1 box set. $219 for 6 movies with 4 discs of extras. Also includes a look ahead to Phase 2
http://insidemovies.ew.com/2012/11/20/marvel-phase-one-phase-two/ (http://insidemovies.ew.com/2012/11/20/marvel-phase-one-phase-two/)
Of particular interest the Phase 2 moviesQuoteMarvel’s Phase Two, which starts in May with Iron Man 3 and includes Thor: The Dark World, Captain America: The Winter Soldier, Ant-Man, Guardians of the Galaxy and, of course, The Avengers 2
Marvel is currently deciding whether or not to remake a daredevil movie because they just obtained the rights to him from fox. I also heard they are trying to work out a deal with fox to trade daredevil back to fox in exchange for certain villains in the marvel universe. Sounds awesome.
sweet!
"... with science ..."
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Epic. TP's incoming :D
How come DC hasn't released a Wonder Woman or The Flash movie yet?
How stupid are they to not capitalize on the super hero movie success. I mean, Green Lantern wasnt even that great and it still made money. C'mon DC, we're talking about Wonder Woman here (and that better be Jessica Biel playing Princess Diana).
How come DC hasn't released a Wonder Woman or The Flash movie yet?
How stupid are they to not capitalize on the super hero movie success. I mean, Green Lantern wasnt even that great and it still made money. C'mon DC, we're talking about Wonder Woman here (and that better be Jessica Biel playing Princess Diana).
I just hope that whoever does Justice League (IF it happens), don't goon it up.
Avengers has set a HUGE bar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Svd4fe8HEZIloved the 2-face bit!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVW6SH2bjYQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTLp14MKDDU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOg3ZE3hNQc
I just saw these last weekend, they're hilarious.If you don't think so, you probably need medication.
Nah something about calculating or maths. Don't really remember :p"... with science ..."
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Epic. TP's incoming :D
"Blinded me with Science".....?
Nah something about calculating or maths. Don't really remember :p"... with science ..."
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Epic. TP's incoming :D
"Blinded me with Science".....?
Is that a quote from a song or something? :)
Time for some youtubing :)Nah something about calculating or maths. Don't really remember :p"... with science ..."
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Epic. TP's incoming :D
"Blinded me with Science".....?
Is that a quote from a song or something? :)
Yeah..a rather old song, too ;D
Time for some youtubing :)Nah something about calculating or maths. Don't really remember :p"... with science ..."
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Epic. TP's incoming :D
"Blinded me with Science".....?
Is that a quote from a song or something? :)
Yeah..a rather old song, too ;D
Man of Steel 2 will have an appearance by Batman according to Zach Snyder at ComicCon (apparently they are going to be fighting each other in some capacity). No mention of who would play Batman, but this seems to tie in with DC Comics goal of the Justice League movie (even if they do start off at odds with each other).
Most recent theory I've heard on that, is Tony Stark creating Ultron.Yeah the picture of Ultron looks a lot like the Iron Man mask so it would make sense.
I also recall someone in an interview, be it someone from Marvel or someone working on the movie, saying something along the lines of "maybe Antman doesn't create Ultron".Most recent theory I've heard on that, is Tony Stark creating Ultron.Yeah the picture of Ultron looks a lot like the Iron Man mask so it would make sense.
At San Diego Comic-Con International 2013, Joss Whedon and Kevin Feige confirmed that Ultron will be introduced as the villain in the Marvel Studios film Marvel's The Avengers: Age of Ultron.[59][60] Whedon also confirmed that Hank Pym will not be involved with the creation of the film version UltronFrom here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultron#Film
Movies are different from comics. Nick Fury was a white guy for ywars in the comics.he still is. Samuel L Jackson's biggest secret -- an intense tanning regimen
Josh Brolin is the frontrunner for Batman.I heard it was Ben Affleck. Seriously.
James Spader will be playing Ultron in some fashion in the next Avengers.I posted that last page, which brought this thread back to the front. It is an interesting casting choice.
James Spader will be playing Ultron in some fashion in the next Avengers.I posted that last page, which brought this thread back to the front. It is an interesting casting choice.
And since Avengers 2 is sub titled the Age of Ultron I imagine he will have a pretty big role.
The promo going around has Ultron's costume looking very much like Iron Man. The thinking is that Tony Stark creates Ultron and thus he looks very much like Iron Man (which is obviously different than the comic book world, but would seemingly fit in the movie scheme). Thus, I would imagine that Spader will be in an Iron Man esque suit for much of his screen time.James Spader will be playing Ultron in some fashion in the next Avengers.I posted that last page, which brought this thread back to the front. It is an interesting casting choice.
And since Avengers 2 is sub titled the Age of Ultron I imagine he will have a pretty big role.
Oops, sorry about that - but have I ever got some hot news about the new Batman! :o
By "some fashion" I meant it might just be a voiceover, or they might physically involve Spader via motion capture or the like. Or, best case, they'll just slap some circuit boards on him like that freaky lady in Superman 3.
The promo going around has Ultron's costume looking very much like Iron Man. The thinking is that Tony Stark creates Ultron and thus he looks very much like Iron Man (which is obviously different than the comic book world, but would seemingly fit in the movie scheme). Thus, I would imagine that Spader will be in an Iron Man esque suit for much of his screen time.
certainly possible, but Whedon has said he wants to humanize the character. I have no idea what he means by that and he wouldn't clarify. So while it is possible he will be totally CGI, it is also possible they will do something where he is more human like.The promo going around has Ultron's costume looking very much like Iron Man. The thinking is that Tony Stark creates Ultron and thus he looks very much like Iron Man (which is obviously different than the comic book world, but would seemingly fit in the movie scheme). Thus, I would imagine that Spader will be in an Iron Man esque suit for much of his screen time.
I think the Iron Man creation story makes a lot of sense, but I doubt they'll have Spader in a suit since Ultron isn't a person. Easier to just mocap someone or fully CGI it and add the voice later.
Just read (http://variety.com/2013/film/news/paul-rudd-marvel-ant-man-1200756440/) that Paul Rudd will be playing Ant-Man.Why?... you a big Ant-Man fan? lol
My initial reaction: Not good.
Just read (http://variety.com/2013/film/news/paul-rudd-marvel-ant-man-1200756440/) that Paul Rudd will be playing Ant-Man.Why?... you a big Ant-Man fan? lol
My initial reaction: Not good.
If that's your concern, you should fear not. Green Lantern had a "meh" director. Martin Campbell... guy has more misses on his record than hits. Couple Zorro movies. Some crap films like "The Edge of Darkness". He did, however, direct "Casino Royale" which was pretty solid.Just read (http://variety.com/2013/film/news/paul-rudd-marvel-ant-man-1200756440/) that Paul Rudd will be playing Ant-Man.Why?... you a big Ant-Man fan? lol
My initial reaction: Not good.
A "big" Ant-Man fan? I see what you did there. ;D
Ant-Man's not my favorite, but I like him, and I just don't see Paul Rudd as the superhero type—I hope they don't end up with another Ryan-Reynolds-as-Green-Lantern on their hands.
IMHO Superman Returns was a 8/10, Man of Steel 5/10, reaaalllyy disappointing
IMHO Superman Returns was a 8/10, Man of Steel 5/10, reaaalllyy disappointing
Superhero movies of 2014
Captain America: The Winter Soldier - out already
The Amazing Spiderman 2 - May 2nd
X-Men: Days of Future Past - May 23rd
Guardians of the Galaxy - August 1st
Future Projected Release Dates
Avengers Age of Ultron - May 1, 2015
The Fantastic Four - June 19, 2015
Ant Man - July 17, 2015
Captain America 3 - May 6, 2016
Man of Steel 2 (Batman v. Superman) - May 6, 2016
X-Men: Apocalypse - May 27, 2016
Amazing Spiderman 3 - June 10, 2016
Untitled Marvel film - July 8, 2016
Wolverine 3 - March 3, 2017
Untitled Marvel film - May 5, 2017
The Fantastic Four 2 - July 14, 2017
Amazing Spiderman 4 - May 4, 2018
Untitled Marvel Film - July 13, 2018
Marvel got the Fantastic Four back? That's great news, those movies were pretty crappy. Maybe now they can do a proper Dr Doom and/or Galactus.Marvel paid for some of their galactic villains and cosmic characters back but Fox is keeping FF4.
EDIT: Oh, that's a list of superhero movies, not Marvel movies. So Fox is rebooting it? Still could be an improvement.
Marvel got the Fantastic Four back? That's great news, those movies were pretty crappy. Maybe now they can do a proper Dr Doom and/or Galactus.I'm hoping they can do a much better version of the Fantastic Four. I didn't have a problem with the casting but the story lines were weak, especially the Surfer/Galactus sequel.
EDIT: Oh, that's a list of superhero movies, not Marvel movies. So Fox is rebooting it? Still could be an improvement.
http://www.comingsoon.net/movies.php (http://www.comingsoon.net/movies.php)Superhero movies of 2014
Captain America: The Winter Soldier - out already
The Amazing Spiderman 2 - May 2nd
X-Men: Days of Future Past - May 23rd
Guardians of the Galaxy - August 1st
Future Projected Release Dates
Avengers Age of Ultron - May 1, 2015
The Fantastic Four - June 19, 2015
Ant Man - July 17, 2015
Captain America 3 - May 6, 2016
Man of Steel 2 (Batman v. Superman) - May 6, 2016
X-Men: Apocalypse - May 27, 2016
Amazing Spiderman 3 - June 10, 2016
Untitled Marvel film - July 8, 2016
Wolverine 3 - March 3, 2017
Untitled Marvel film - May 5, 2017
The Fantastic Four 2 - July 14, 2017
Amazing Spiderman 4 - May 4, 2018
Untitled Marvel Film - July 13, 2018
where is that list from?
thank you!http://www.comingsoon.net/movies.php (http://www.comingsoon.net/movies.php)Superhero movies of 2014
Captain America: The Winter Soldier - out already
The Amazing Spiderman 2 - May 2nd
X-Men: Days of Future Past - May 23rd
Guardians of the Galaxy - August 1st
Future Projected Release Dates
Avengers Age of Ultron - May 1, 2015
The Fantastic Four - June 19, 2015
Ant Man - July 17, 2015
Captain America 3 - May 6, 2016
Man of Steel 2 (Batman v. Superman) - May 6, 2016
X-Men: Apocalypse - May 27, 2016
Amazing Spiderman 3 - June 10, 2016
Untitled Marvel film - July 8, 2016
Wolverine 3 - March 3, 2017
Untitled Marvel film - May 5, 2017
The Fantastic Four 2 - July 14, 2017
Amazing Spiderman 4 - May 4, 2018
Untitled Marvel Film - July 13, 2018
where is that list from?
Marvel got the Fantastic Four back? That's great news, those movies were pretty crappy. Maybe now they can do a proper Dr Doom and/or Galactus.
EDIT: Oh, that's a list of superhero movies, not Marvel movies. So Fox is rebooting it? Still could be an improvement.
The Marvel cinematic universe contains most of the Marvel Characters. All of the Avengers + others: (Hulk, Iron-Man, Captain America, Thor, Ant-Man, SHIELD, Guardians of the Galaxy + the 4 characters we'll be seeing on Netflix... Daredevil, iron-fist, etc) ... All those characters belong to the same universe and theoretically can cross paths at any time.Marvel got the Fantastic Four back? That's great news, those movies were pretty crappy. Maybe now they can do a proper Dr Doom and/or Galactus.Marvel paid for some of their galactic villains and cosmic characters back but Fox is keeping FF4.
EDIT: Oh, that's a list of superhero movies, not Marvel movies. So Fox is rebooting it? Still could be an improvement.
Superhero movies of 2014Here I color coded the 4 movie universes so you can see which characters can cross over.
Captain America: The Winter Soldier - out already
The Amazing Spiderman 2 - May 2nd
X-Men: Days of Future Past - May 23rd
Guardians of the Galaxy - August 1st
Future Projected Release Dates
Avengers Age of Ultron - May 1, 2015
The Fantastic Four - June 19, 2015
Ant Man - July 17, 2015
Captain America 3 - May 6, 2016
Man of Steel 2 (Batman v. Superman) - May 6, 2016
X-Men: Apocalypse - May 27, 2016
Amazing Spiderman 3 - June 10, 2016
Untitled Marvel film - July 8, 2016
Wolverine 3 - March 3, 2017
Untitled Marvel film - May 5, 2017
The Fantastic Four 2 - July 14, 2017
Amazing Spiderman 4 - May 4, 2018
Untitled Marvel Film - July 13, 2018
LarBrd33 the deal Marvel made with Fox was for characters that are second tier and apparently they're going to share several of them potentially. There is one such character already in Captain America 2 (post-credits) and Days of Future past.I'm seeing Cap 2 tonight.... but my understanding of this was about crappy second tier characters like Quicksilver. There's a person playing Quicksilver in the next Avengers movie. There's an entirely different person (looks completely different) playing Quicksilver in the next X-Men movie.
Right I'm not talking about "crossing over" between movies. I mean as these movies keep spinning we're likely going to see multiples of supporting characters and some villains.That might happen, but I think they will be very small/secondary characters.... and judging by the Quicksilver thing, they will probably be rather different takes on the characters.
No huge reveal, the first post credit scene (yes there are two) shows the twins, which obviously "sets up" Avengers 2. The second post credit scene "sets up" Capt. Am. 3.LarBrd33 the deal Marvel made with Fox was for characters that are second tier and apparently they're going to share several of them potentially. There is one such character already in Captain America 2 (post-credits) and Days of Future past.I'm seeing Cap 2 tonight.... but my understanding of this was about crappy second tier characters like Quicksilver. There's a person playing Quicksilver in the next Avengers movie. There's an entirely different person (looks completely different) playing Quicksilver in the next X-Men movie.
That doesn't mean that the same Quicksilver can cross over between the two studios.
Quicksilver in Avengers 2 (played by Aaron Taylor-Johnson... also the star of Kick-Ass, but of course Kick-Ass is an entirely separate universe as well):
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Quicksilver in "Days of Future Past":
(http://www.critiques4geeks.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/quicksilver-days-future-past.jpg)
So you can see... essentially alternate versions of the same a character existing in Marvel Cinematic Universe and in the Fox X-Men/Fantastic 4 universe. Judging by the concept art, it looks like the Quicksilver that will be appearing in the Marvel Cinematic Universe is far more true to the comics.
Unless there's some HUGE reveal in Cap 2 (i'm seeing it tonight), I don't think this means that any of the X-Men/Fantastic 4 major characters can start showing up in Avengers movies.
New Age of Ultron trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmeOjFno6Do
Bummer they are rebooting him again. I actually didn't mind Andrew Garfield, but his two movies weren't great. But it will be cool to see spidey in the MCU. They should skip the origin story. Will be interesting to see who they cast.
The Andrew Garfield situation will be like Brandon routh... I thought he was a solid superman. He wasn't the problem with the movie. But unfortunately they had to recast him.
must be just me but I thought Tobey was the better Spidey. less punky and more geeky like Peter Parker really was. curious who's going to put on the mask now.Bummer they are rebooting him again. I actually didn't mind Andrew Garfield, but his two movies weren't great. But it will be cool to see spidey in the MCU. They should skip the origin story. Will be interesting to see who they cast.
The Andrew Garfield situation will be like Brandon routh... I thought he was a solid superman. He wasn't the problem with the movie. But unfortunately they had to recast him.
Yeah it sucks Garfield wont get to play him with a good script. He looked and acted more like Spidy than Mcguire did.
The last two movies were okay, not Catwoman bad, but watchable. At least they got Spidy with with big eyes in the last one. It only look 5 films to get it.
Hopefully they wont do a full origin movie, and just do flash backs, with two recent origins, I think they could get away with a flyby origin and jump right into the story. I would like to see a better Green Goblin than the power ranger and emo versions they pulled the last two times.
It will be someone you would never think of.Chris Evans was known when he was cast as Captain America. So there goes that theory. I agree, if they go with someone unknown it is cheaper and they can lock them up longer so that is the main reason. I would also point out That Robert Downey Jr. was a known albeit damaged property when they cast him. They do like casting foreigners in Hollywood these days, Aussies are pretty popular.
I have to question how many in this thread read comics, both McGuire and Garfield did a decent job but neither nailed Spiderman and each of them had elements missing from Spiderman. Garfield did a better job at the cockey comments that Spidey is known for, McGuire did a better job at Spidey's vulnerability and Peter Parker.Chris Evans was known, but he wasn't a star and I don't think anyone thought he would be cast as Captain America because he was already in a Superhero franchise (and frankly hadn't done a whole lot between Fantastic Four and Captain America).QuoteIt will be someone you would never think of.Chris Evans was known when he was cast as Captain America. So there goes that theory. I agree, if they go with someone unknown it is cheaper and they can lock them up longer so that is the main reason. I would also point out That Robert Downey Jr. was a known albeit damaged property when they cast him. They do like casting foreigners in Hollywood these days, Aussies are pretty popular.
Could it be someone like Brenton Thwaites or Xavier Samuel. These are the kind of guys I think they will cast. I threw Pine out there because he has the perfect moxy for the costumed Spidey, he would be a terrible Peter Parker. They may even keep Garfield and make some changes. McGuire is too old and has health ( back) issues nowadays.
Spiderman may be different because he is one of their most iconic characters, who knows. He has always been their flagship character. He is not the most powerful but he is one who people identify with as the common man. His life is crappy outside of the superhero universe and he rarely gets credit.
I'm one of those that likes to keep characters as true as they were original as possible, so I'm going to have a tough time accepting the changes they have come up with this time around.you mean like Kate Mara and Michael B. Jordan being brother and sister.
Fantastic Four reboot trailer is out.
QuoteFantastic Four reboot trailer is out.
I have a buddy who owns a comic gaming store. From what I heard helping him by working with the shop as he went to a concert Saturday, consensus is that this movie will do not do well because it has messed with canon. These guys are fanboys and I bet they Redbox it if anything.
They are in fact, not favorable in outlook of any movie not made by Marvel themselves. Marvel even cancelled the FF4 comic. This move is being made by Fox? They were very happy that Sony let Marvel use Spidey. They want all movie rights to go back to Marvel movies who get it right. Though this movie has Marvel Characters it is not done by Marvel.
This is just one store so it may be mean nothing. But these are the guys who show up at midnight to watch their moves and a lot of them go to the Comic Cons.
Not looking forward to the new FF4 at all....they should've kept it original - as in the other 2 movies from a few years ago.
I will probably watch it, but with disappointment....no matter how good the movie is/will be.....there are other ways to present inclusion and diversity in comics and movies.
I certainly understand the need for diversity/inclusion. I grew up reading and loving comics (still do, thanks to my sons) and didn't even pay much attention to the lack of Black heroes and heroines - and even other ethnicities.
Then you grow up, lose your innocence, and see the need for diversity in society - AND in comicville. You notice the lack.
I remember the Original Superfriends vividly...never paid attention to the lack of color...all I saw was the color of the uniforms.
But again - as I got older and wiser I saw the need.
From what I've read over the last few years, comics have come a ways...but the movies need to go a bit further. I appreciate the place where the Avengers is at now - because they are staying TRUE to the comics and script.
In short, inclusion/diversity - needs to be done RIGHT.
Marvel lacks an "Alpha" male or female as far as black heroes/heroines...or if they do exist they are mostly unnoticed.
From what I understand, a version of Spiderman is African-American and Hispanic...would be nice to see this incorporated in Hollywood:
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I think DC goes further in diversity/inclusion. In 1993, the late Dwyane McDuffie introduced Icon:
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Icon has a rich (but mostly unknown, unfortunately) history in the DC Universe. He is ORIGINAL, but yet was drawn/created - to be Superman's equal.
Young Justice cartoon series introduced Icon and his friend Rocket for several series. He was presented well.
Would LOVE, someday, for Icon to make the movies.
But yeah - I am disappointed to the new FF4...but looking forward to seeing the movie. Inclusion needs to be done the right way.
Not looking forward to the new FF4 at all....they should've kept it original - as in the other 2 movies from a few years ago.
I will probably watch it, but with disappointment....no matter how good the movie is/will be.....there are other ways to present inclusion and diversity in comics and movies.
I certainly understand the need for diversity/inclusion. I grew up reading and loving comics (still do, thanks to my sons) and didn't even pay much attention to the lack of Black heroes and heroines - and even other ethnicities.
Then you grow up, lose your innocence, and see the need for diversity in society - AND in comicville. You notice the lack.
I remember the Original Superfriends vividly...never paid attention to the lack of color...all I saw was the color of the uniforms.
But again - as I got older and wiser I saw the need.
From what I've read over the last few years, comics have come a ways...but the movies need to go a bit further. I appreciate the place where the Avengers is at now - because they are staying TRUE to the comics and script.
In short, inclusion/diversity - needs to be done RIGHT.
Marvel lacks an "Alpha" male or female as far as black heroes/heroines...or if they do exist they are mostly unnoticed.
From what I understand, a version of Spiderman is African-American and Hispanic...would be nice to see this incorporated in Hollywood:
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTJiOs3DEamuG_pfKCHG-PuH7vKvw8e1VjUEgEizHMNeRXRscl6)
I think DC goes further in diversity/inclusion. In 1993, the late Dwyane McDuffie introduced Icon:
(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ9cbK1d7_YK_UZSB7hxR3-Bi-zGFgxZjGunTyhGsplIKW4EBr3)
Icon has a rich (but mostly unknown, unfortunately) history in the DC Universe. He is ORIGINAL, but yet was drawn/created - to be Superman's equal.
Young Justice cartoon series introduced Icon and his friend Rocket for several series. He was presented well.
Would LOVE, someday, for Icon to make the movies.
But yeah - I am disappointed to the new FF4...but looking forward to seeing the movie. Inclusion needs to be done the right way.
I'd love for Marvel to reacquire the movie rights to all their characters—they just know how to make superhero movies.
As for diversity and adherence to source material, I have no problem with diversity, but I'm also a big originalist (for the most part, unless something just doesn't make sense for a movie). At the risk of sounding racist/sexist/whatever-ist, I think things like a female Thor and a Muslim Ms. Marvel and a black or Hispanic Spider-Man are bad ideas (even if they did first happen in the comics), just like it would be silly to have a white Luke Cage or a male Wasp. Diversity is fine, but it shouldn't be forced.
Falcon is black and they kept him black in the movies. Nick Fury was made black for the movies and I don't think anyone can picture Fury as anyone other than Sam Jackson (even though he was white in the comics).Its comics, evil twins, body/mind swaps, and retcons are constant.
Diversity is fine, but you can't be diverse just to be diverse. It has to make sense.
QuoteFantastic Four reboot trailer is out.
I have a buddy who owns a comic gaming store. From what I heard helping him by working with the shop as he went to a concert Saturday, consensus is that this movie will do not do well because it has messed with canon. These guys are fanboys and I bet they Redbox it if anything.
They are in fact, not favorable in outlook of any movie not made by Marvel themselves. Marvel even cancelled the FF4 comic. This move is being made by Fox? They were very happy that Sony let Marvel use Spidey. They want all movie rights to go back to Marvel movies who get it right. Though this movie has Marvel Characters it is not done by Marvel.
This is just one store so it may be mean nothing. But these are the guys who show up at midnight to watch their moves and a lot of them go to the Comic Cons.
Your buddy isn't the only one. There's a regular customer from where I work who was a fan of FF since the 60's (yeah he's old) that pretty much said the exact same thing.
He's upset that the FF books have been cancelled and he's also not looking forward to this movie and he hopes it "fails so FOX would stop making Fantastic Four movies and just bring it back to Marvel". And boy, he's enraged with the casting, especially this idea that Dr. Doom is very different.
Falcon is black and they kept him black in the movies. Nick Fury was made black for the movies and I don't think anyone can picture Fury as anyone other than Sam Jackson (even though he was white in the comics).Its comics, evil twins, body/mind swaps, and retcons are constant.
Diversity is fine, but you can't be diverse just to be diverse. It has to make sense.
It all makes sense and it all doesn't. I giggle at the complaining about forced diversity because its the same complaint that the status quo always makes couched in the usual language.
Same with with the gamergate crazies, reactionaries gonna reactionary.
Falcon is black and they kept him black in the movies. Nick Fury was made black for the movies and I don't think anyone can picture Fury as anyone other than Sam Jackson (even though he was white in the comics).Its comics, evil twins, body/mind swaps, and retcons are constant.
Diversity is fine, but you can't be diverse just to be diverse. It has to make sense.
It all makes sense and it all doesn't. I giggle at the complaining about forced diversity because its the same complaint that the status quo always makes couched in the usual language.
Same with with the gamergate crazies, reactionaries gonna reactionary.
Wasn't the Ultimates version of Nick Fury black anyway, and came out before the movie version? Either way we all know David Hasselhoff is the real Fury:
(http://www.worstmoviesevermade.com/wp-content/media/2013/01/david-hasselhoff-nick-fury-agent-of-shield.jpg)
Falcon is black and they kept him black in the movies. Nick Fury was made black for the movies and I don't think anyone can picture Fury as anyone other than Sam Jackson (even though he was white in the comics).
Diversity is fine, but you can't be diverse just to be diverse. It has to make sense.
The first FF movies were absolutely abysmal. Dr Doom is my fav comic book villain ever but I couldn't stand it.There is a level of care of the canon and getting it right at Marvel/Disney that does not happen at the other studios.
Falcon is black and they kept him black in the movies. Nick Fury was made black for the movies and I don't think anyone can picture Fury as anyone other than Sam Jackson (even though he was white in the comics).
Diversity is fine, but you can't be diverse just to be diverse. It has to make sense.
To whom it may concern, looks like Peter Parker will be Spider-Man in the MCU in the 15-16 age range.Cool. Wonder if they will actually cast someone that young.
http://collider.com/spider-man-kevin-feige-confirms-peter-parker-in-high-school/
Cool. Wonder if they will actually cast someone that young.
sure was nice of them to put the Marvel movie timeline in there
Avengers: Age of Ultron – May 1, 2015
Ant-Man – July 17, 2015
Captain America: Civil War – May 6, 2016
Doctor Strange - November 6, 2016
Guardians of the Galaxy 2 – May 5, 2017
Spider-Man Reboot – July 28, 2017
Thor: Ragnarok – November 3, 2017
Avengers: Infinity War – Part 1 – May 4, 2018
Black Panther – July 6, 2018
Captain Marvel – November 2, 2018
Avengers: Infinity War – Part 2 – May 3, 2019
Inhumans – July 12, 2019
The new Captain America trailer is AWESOME. Except I can't believe they've got Spidey choosing Iron Man's side. Come on!that spiderman costume looks lackluster :/
http://www.youtube.com/embed/dKrVegVI0Us
The new Captain America trailer is AWESOME. Except I can't believe they've got Spidey choosing Iron Man's side. Come on!that spiderman costume looks lackluster :/
http://www.youtube.com/embed/dKrVegVI0Us
The new Captain America trailer is AWESOME. Except I can't believe they've got Spidey choosing Iron Man's side. Come on!that spiderman costume looks lackluster :/
http://www.youtube.com/embed/dKrVegVI0Us
The new Captain America trailer is AWESOME. Except I can't believe they've got Spidey choosing Iron Man's side. Come on!that spiderman costume looks lackluster :/
http://www.youtube.com/embed/dKrVegVI0Us
The new Captain America trailer is AWESOME. Except I can't believe they've got Spidey choosing Iron Man's side. Come on!that spiderman costume looks lackluster :/
http://www.youtube.com/embed/dKrVegVI0Us
How do the eyes on the costume squint? <comicbookguy> Boy, I really hope somebody got fired over that one </comicbookguy>
Movie looks good, but it seems like they're trying to cram an awful lot into one film. And that "big throwdown" would be over in about 2 seconds, Iron Man's side is comically stronger than the Cap group.
The new Captain America trailer is AWESOME. Except I can't believe they've got Spidey choosing Iron Man's side. Come on!that spiderman costume looks lackluster :/
http://www.youtube.com/embed/dKrVegVI0Us
How do the eyes on the costume squint? <comicbookguy> Boy, I really hope somebody got fired over that one </comicbookguy>
Movie looks good, but it seems like they're trying to cram an awful lot into one film. And that "big throwdown" would be over in about 2 seconds, Iron Man's side is comically stronger than the Cap group.
Serious question from a casual super hero fan. Without a boatload of Kryptonite how does Batman even stand a chance against Superman?
It is rumored that the suit is a Tony Stark design which is one of the reasons Spider-man is on Stark's side.The new Captain America trailer is AWESOME. Except I can't believe they've got Spidey choosing Iron Man's side. Come on!that spiderman costume looks lackluster :/
http://www.youtube.com/embed/dKrVegVI0Us
How do the eyes on the costume squint? <comicbookguy> Boy, I really hope somebody got fired over that one </comicbookguy>
Movie looks good, but it seems like they're trying to cram an awful lot into one film. And that "big throwdown" would be over in about 2 seconds, Iron Man's side is comically stronger than the Cap group.
Serious question from a casual super hero fan. Without a boatload of Kryptonite how does Batman even stand a chance against Superman? Batman's just a guy in a suit with some fancy toys, Superman is the real deal.
Serious question from a casual super hero fan. Without a boatload of Kryptonite how does Batman even stand a chance against Superman? Batman's just a guy in a suit with some fancy toys, Superman is the real deal.its based on the comic "Dark Knight Returns" from the mid 80s. An aging batman fights superman using a metal suit basically identical to the one being used in this movie. I think it was laced with kryptonite. There's actually a animated version of "the dark knight returns" that was pretty good. It might be streaming on Netflix. Will be interesting to see how much they borrowed from it.
Serious question from a casual super hero fan. Without a boatload of Kryptonite how does Batman even stand a chance against Superman? Batman's just a guy in a suit with some fancy toys, Superman is the real deal.
Thanks for the insight.one of the previews showed Supes removing the Batman mask, does that count?
I wonder if there will be a Clark Kent vs Bruce Wayne encounter.
Thanks for the insight.one of the previews showed Supes removing the Batman mask, does that count?
I wonder if there will be a Clark Kent vs Bruce Wayne encounter.
I think I saw them in normal clothes in a preveiew scene as well, though I could be mixing up individual scenes of them by putting them together in my mind because I want that to happen.
Thanks for the insight.The standard Batman/Supes meet and greet involves Supes being snide about seeing through the mask with his vision and then Batman retaliates by investigating Supes for approximately 1 hour and by the end has a detailed list of his identity, suit size, and favorite breakfast foods.
I wonder if there will be a Clark Kent vs Bruce Wayne encounter.
I'm going to go out on the limb and predict that "Batman V Superman" strongly disappoints while "Ghostbusters" is surprisingly decent.
Gonna pull these numbers out of my butt. These are my metacritic predictions.
Batman V Superman = 58
Suicide Squad = 46
Ghostbusters = 72
I've seen some fairly positive reviews, though it seems by and large they tried to cram too much into the movie and it loses focus because of it. I don't think anyone is really surprised by that assessment.I'm going to go out on the limb and predict that "Batman V Superman" strongly disappoints while "Ghostbusters" is surprisingly decent.
Gonna pull these numbers out of my butt. These are my metacritic predictions.
Batman V Superman = 58
Suicide Squad = 46
Ghostbusters = 72
So far "Batman V Superman" is getting HAMMERED by critics. I might have over-shot it with the prediction of 58/100.
Serious question from a casual super hero fan. Without a boatload of Kryptonite how does Batman even stand a chance against Superman? Batman's just a guy in a suit with some fancy toys, Superman is the real deal.its based on the comic "Dark Knight Returns" from the mid 80s. An aging batman fights superman using a metal suit basically identical to the one being used in this movie. I think it was laced with kryptonite. There's actually a animated version of "the dark knight returns" that was pretty good. It might be streaming on Netflix. Will be interesting to see how much they borrowed from it.
I've seen some fairly positive reviews, though it seems by and large they tried to cram too much into the movie and it loses focus because of it. I don't think anyone is really surprised by that assessment.I'm going to go out on the limb and predict that "Batman V Superman" strongly disappoints while "Ghostbusters" is surprisingly decent.
Gonna pull these numbers out of my butt. These are my metacritic predictions.
Batman V Superman = 58
Suicide Squad = 46
Ghostbusters = 72
So far "Batman V Superman" is getting HAMMERED by critics. I might have over-shot it with the prediction of 58/100.
46/100 on metacritic. Even worse than I expected. Classic Zach Snyder. Sounds like it's on a par with "watchmen" and "man of steel" so if you hated those you might as well skip this one.are you saying it's worse because you saw it and didn't like it or just based on some rating system?
I'm saying that I expected it to be critically panned based on the reception of "Watchmen" and "Man of Steel". Zack Snyder is a hack. Based on the reviews, this one is even worse. 44 out of 100 on metacritic. 34% rotten on Rottentomatoes. That's pretty rough. So according to critical consensus, this movie has even more problems than Snyders other comicbook movies.46/100 on metacritic. Even worse than I expected. Classic Zach Snyder. Sounds like it's on a par with "watchmen" and "man of steel" so if you hated those you might as well skip this one.are you saying it's worse because you saw it and didn't like it or just based on some rating system?
thanks for the clarification.I'm saying that I expected it to be critically panned based on the reception of "Watchmen" and "Man of Steel". Zack Snyder is a hack. Based on the reviews, this one is even worse. 44 out of 100 on metacritic. 34% rotten on Rottentomatoes. That's pretty rough. So according to critical consensus, this movie has even more problems than Snyders other comicbook movies.46/100 on metacritic. Even worse than I expected. Classic Zach Snyder. Sounds like it's on a par with "watchmen" and "man of steel" so if you hated those you might as well skip this one.are you saying it's worse because you saw it and didn't like it or just based on some rating system?
Personally, I totally agreed with the scores for Watchmen (58 on Metacritic) and Man of Steel (56 on Metacritic). Neither were great movies. I was entertained by them in other ways. But whether or not I think a movie is "good" and whether or not I am entertained by them are two separate things. There are plenty of "bad" movies I've enjoyed over the years. "Waterworld" and "Hook" are two of my favorite "bad" movies. I'd never disagree with criticism of them... but I still like them for what they were. More recently, I went into seeing "Dumb and DumberER" fully expecting it to be a giant turd. It was. Still, I had a couple laughs. Whatev. I don't think the TV show "The Flash" is particularly good, but I watch it weekly, because it's a genre I love. Same with the show "Shameless" - pretty stupid show, but I find aspects of it entertaining.
I have tickets to see "Batman V Superman" tomorrow. I'm sure it will be cool to see live action Batman face off against live action Superman. I've loved those characters for a long time. Similar to how someone who loves Alien and Predator would enjoy the spectacle of "Alien V Predator". Or "Freddie V Jason". But again, you can decide a movie is bad and still like it, because it's a genre you love.
I find the review aggregator sites incredibly helpful in determining what films are worth my time. I typically agree with the consensus. They attempt to measure the quality of the film. 44 out of 100 on metacritic is not a good film. THat's pretty mediocre-to-bad. But if you LOOOVE a genre, you should be able to watch a film in the 40s and still enjoy it. I hate horror films... there's no way I'd waste my time with a horror film that scored in the 40s. If a horror film scores in the 70s/80s, maybe it's worth my time. "Cabin the Woods" (72 on metacritic) is a good example of a horror film I watched and enjoyed, because it was getting positive consensus from a wide audience. On the flip side, I love Comedy and I'll occasionally see a mediocre comedy (something that scored in the 40s) and be fine with it.thanks for the clarification.I'm saying that I expected it to be critically panned based on the reception of "Watchmen" and "Man of Steel". Zack Snyder is a hack. Based on the reviews, this one is even worse. 44 out of 100 on metacritic. 34% rotten on Rottentomatoes. That's pretty rough. So according to critical consensus, this movie has even more problems than Snyders other comicbook movies.46/100 on metacritic. Even worse than I expected. Classic Zach Snyder. Sounds like it's on a par with "watchmen" and "man of steel" so if you hated those you might as well skip this one.are you saying it's worse because you saw it and didn't like it or just based on some rating system?
Personally, I totally agreed with the scores for Watchmen (58 on Metacritic) and Man of Steel (56 on Metacritic). Neither were great movies. I was entertained by them in other ways. But whether or not I think a movie is "good" and whether or not I am entertained by them are two separate things. There are plenty of "bad" movies I've enjoyed over the years. "Waterworld" and "Hook" are two of my favorite "bad" movies. I'd never disagree with criticism of them... but I still like them for what they were. More recently, I went into seeing "Dumb and Dumber To" fully expecting it to be a giant turd. It was. Still, I had a couple laughs. Whatev. I don't think the TV show "The Flash" is particularly good, but I watch it weekly, because it's a genre I love. Same with the show "Shameless" - pretty stupid show, but I find aspects of it entertaining.
I have tickets to see "Batman V Superman" tomorrow. I'm sure it will be cool to see live action Batman face off against live action Superman. I've loved those characters for a long time. Similar to how someone who loves Alien and Predator would enjoy the spectacle of "Alien V Predator". Or "Freddie V Jason". But again, you can decide a movie is bad and still like it, because it's a genre you love.
Personally, the only rating systems I care about are
1. whether I liked it or not
2. whether people who have similar tastes as mine liked it or not (which is typically what I find out before I see a movie)
Zach Snyder has a way of squeezing any joy or life out of his material.Really hope they get rid of him. That's a common complaint of the movie... there's nothing "fun" about it. Of course fanboys will argue that not everything has to be Marvel bright and cheerful, but that's missing the point. "The Dark Knight" was a relatively dark movie and there were still plenty of "Fun" moments... especially Ledger's performance.
Zach Snyder has a way of squeezing any joy or life out of his material.
I liked Watchmen though. But the source material there was absolutely superb.
I'm concerned about BvS. The last 3 Batmans were amazing. Now they have the director of 300 doing this. That worries me. I couldn't get past 15 minutes of 300. Very corny. Watchmen was okay, but nothing great. Not sure how this guy keeps getting big projects.
Just saw it. The criticism is completely warranted. Overall it's not a good film.
I don't recommend it for anyone who isn't a super fan. I'm definitely not taking a casual movie-goer to see this. I'm not even sure I'd recommend children see it. In the same way "Watchmen" was gratuitously dark, so is this movie. They just double-down on tons of innocent people being murdered.
It really is a joyless downer of a film with a wonky plot, some bad performances, illogical motives, terrible pacing and useless scenes. It has 3 dream sequences. It sets up introductions to future characters in completely hamfisted ways. In many ways it's hacky. You've seen everything you really need to see in the trailer.
I actually like Jesse Eisenberg as an actor, but his performance as Lex misses the mark. It's awful. I'm pegging him as the single worst part of this movie... both his performance, the dialogue, the character's motives, etc. It brings down this movie.
All that said, Ben Affleck is fine as Batman. If this franchise continues, I'd be interested to see a better director give him some better material to work with. But really he might just have seemed good by comparison to the rest of the dumpster fire happening around him.
As a nerd, I was entertained for the most part. This movie is in my wheelhouse. I'm the demographic for it... so I certainly enjoyed aspects of it, but I'm a movie fanatic that goes to movies once a week and watches all the superhero themed shows... There's tons of bad content I'm willing to sit through. If you're a casual viewer, you might want to stay from this one. If you LOVED the Watchmen, you'll probably enjoy this a lot.
I think that's the key for Marvel movies developing the broader appeal they enjoy. DC's movies have precious little humor to them so casual viewers of comic movies are turned off. As for The Dark Knight being bleak, yes, it very much was however Ledger's Joker stole the movie in what I consider a tour-de-force performance.Zach Snyder has a way of squeezing any joy or life out of his material.Really hope they get rid of him. That's a common complaint of the movie... there's nothing "fun" about it. Of course fanboys will argue that not everything has to be Marvel bright and cheerful, but that's missing the point. "The Dark Knight" was a relatively dark movie and there were still plenty of "Fun" moments... especially Ledger's performance.
JJ Abrams explained that with "Star Wars Episode 7" they tried to focus on moments that would "delight" the audience and fit as many in there as possible. It didn't even need to be funny or cute things... just things that caused emotional reactions. Vader telling Luke he's his father is a "moment of delight".
That's one thing that Marvel focuses on as well. It's why a relatively clunker dump of a movie (Age of Ultron) can get somewhat positive reviews (66 out of 100 on metacritic)... little moments that stand out whether it's the team trying to lift THors hammer or Hawkeye cracking a joke... they delight the audience.
Snyder is far too interested in making dark and drab overly serious bummers. Yeah, it was cool to see Superman lifted off the pages in "man of steel", but when you don't care about the characters or the story it kind of makes those action scenes feel empty. A lot of hardcore superman fans enjoyed it, but I went and saw that movie with my entire company for a company offsite and I think out of the 100+ people who attended, I might have been the only person who actually enjoyed it. I'm seeing "Batman V Superman" tonight... will see if it is actually worse than Man of Steel.
It has 3 dream sequences.
But seriously... the dream sequences are pretty unnecessary beyond Zack Snyder wanting an excuse to do some whacky visual stuff as shout-outs to comic fans.It has 3 dream sequences.
Hahahahaha that seems to sum it up more than anything else in that post.
I won't see this until it comes out for home viewing but it seems pretty hacky. The title alone is horribly contrived. Still I'll check it out at some point.
It's spot on.Just saw it. The criticism is completely warranted. Overall it's not a good film.
I don't recommend it for anyone who isn't a super fan. I'm definitely not taking a casual movie-goer to see this. I'm not even sure I'd recommend children see it. In the same way "Watchmen" was gratuitously dark, so is this movie. They just double-down on tons of innocent people being murdered.
It really is a joyless downer of a film with a wonky plot, some bad performances, illogical motives, terrible pacing and useless scenes. It has 3 dream sequences. It sets up introductions to future characters in completely hamfisted ways. In many ways it's hacky. You've seen everything you really need to see in the trailer.
I actually like Jesse Eisenberg as an actor, but his performance as Lex misses the mark. It's awful. I'm pegging him as the single worst part of this movie... both his performance, the dialogue, the character's motives, etc. It brings down this movie.
All that said, Ben Affleck is fine as Batman. If this franchise continues, I'd be interested to see a better director give him some better material to work with. But really he might just have seemed good by comparison to the rest of the dumpster fire happening around him.
As a nerd, I was entertained for the most part. This movie is in my wheelhouse. I'm the demographic for it... so I certainly enjoyed aspects of it, but I'm a movie fanatic that goes to movies once a week and watches all the superhero themed shows... There's tons of bad content I'm willing to sit through. If you're a casual viewer, you might want to stay from this one. If you LOVED the Watchmen, you'll probably enjoy this a lot.
What's your take on this review?:
http://m.hitfix.com/motion-captured/review-batman-v-superman-throws-lots-of-punches-but-with-no-impact-at-all
I don't know why they persist with Snyder. I understand they want to separate themselves from the MCU, but every film I've ever seen him direct makes it seems like he has no idea what the end goal is.But seriously... the dream sequences are pretty unnecessary beyond Zack Snyder wanting an excuse to do some whacky visual stuff as shout-outs to comic fans.It has 3 dream sequences.
Hahahahaha that seems to sum it up more than anything else in that post.
I won't see this until it comes out for home viewing but it seems pretty hacky. The title alone is horribly contrived. Still I'll check it out at some point.
Zach Snyder has a way of squeezing any joy or life out of his material.
I liked Watchmen though. But the source material there was absolutely superb.
Dawn of the Dead was also good, though no one's expecting much joy from that kind of premise. And I liked 300 when it came out though it hasn't held up well after the style got mimicked to death.
But yeah, he's mainly a glorified visual effects guy who struggles at big picture stuff. However I think a lot of the humorless nature of the DC films has come from over his head - Warner Bros is widely reported to have a "no jokes" policy since Green Lantern flopped.
I don't know why critics hated Dawn of Justice, it was fun.Wonder woman looked ok. She mostly just turned her head and preened at the camera. Apparently her entire storyline revolved around her wanting a digital picture back. Then she shows up and fights. K.
Affleck was good as Barman, Gal Gadot's Wonder Woman was awesome. It literally looked kirk the comic books came to life.
Sure, it isn't perfect, but it was good.
I don't know why critics hated Dawn of Justice, it was fun.Wonder woman looked ok. She mostly just turned her head and preened at the camera. Apparently her entire storyline revolved around her wanting a digital picture back. Then she shows up and fights. K.
Affleck was good as Barman, Gal Gadot's Wonder Woman was awesome. It literally looked kirk the comic books came to life.
Sure, it isn't perfect, but it was good.
Her inclusion in the film served no purpose beyond selling tickets to her solo film.
Zach Snyder has a way of squeezing any joy or life out of his material.
I liked Watchmen though. But the source material there was absolutely superb.
"It’s like making a Strawberry Shortcake movie that is all about diabetes."
Zach Snyder has a way of squeezing any joy or life out of his material.
I liked Watchmen though. But the source material there was absolutely superb.
Give this a read. Love this :Quote"It’s like making a Strawberry Shortcake movie that is all about diabetes."
Zach Snyder has a way of squeezing any joy or life out of his material.
I liked Watchmen though. But the source material there was absolutely superb.
Give this a read. Love this :Quote"It’s like making a Strawberry Shortcake movie that is all about diabetes."
forgot to insert link:
http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/03/30/superman-and-the-damage-done
Zach Snyder has a way of squeezing any joy or life out of his material.
I liked Watchmen though. But the source material there was absolutely superb.
Give this a read. Love this :Quote"It’s like making a Strawberry Shortcake movie that is all about diabetes."
forgot to insert link:
http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/03/30/superman-and-the-damage-done
That was an excellent read, thanks.
I'm going to go out on the limb and predict that "Batman V Superman" strongly disappoints while "Ghostbusters" is surprisingly decent.Batman v superman ended up with a 44
Gonna pull these numbers out of my butt. These are my metacritic predictions.
Batman V Superman = 58
Suicide Squad = 46
Ghostbusters = 72
If anyone's curious... I sorted every major superhero film since 2000 by critical consensus:
Basic HTML version: http://publish.smartsheet.com/2acbc508be70495b94ad899b58ae13fd
Interactive verison that lets you sort/filter: https://app.smartsheet.com/b/publish?EQBCT=8194e516872f4d178928f1afa31d3927
Default, I'm sorting by metacritic score since it's superior to rottentomatoes, but I've included the rottentomatoes % as well.
Just kinda interesting. I was surprised to see a couple movies high on that list. "Superman Returns" got much better reviews than I remembered. Hellboy II is one of the most critically acclaimed superhero films. Funny to see that the recent "Fantastic 4" movie and Haley Berry's "Catwoman" got exactly the same metacritic and rottentomatoes scores.
Cat woman is awesome unintended comedy gold. If I remember correctly she skies over Benjamin brat Nd almost two hand slam dunks it on him in front of the school kids. A cosmetic company with security ready to shoot to kill. Just hysterical.That's like the only scene I've ever seen from that movie. Lol
Cat woman is awesome unintended comedy gold. If I remember correctly she skies over Benjamin brat Nd almost two hand slam dunks it on him in front of the school kids. A cosmetic company with security ready to shoot to kill. Just hysterical.That's like the only scene I've ever seen from that movie. Lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNlmRId2FVQ
Cat woman is awesome unintended comedy gold. If I remember correctly she skies over Benjamin brat Nd almost two hand slam dunks it on him in front of the school kids. A cosmetic company with security ready to shoot to kill. Just hysterical.That's like the only scene I've ever seen from that movie. Lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNlmRId2FVQ
you gotta read those comments on that clip. I LOL'd hard
Somebody please remove this thread from meYou should be all set now hodgy. I've removed it from you.
5 Ways to fix the DC Movie Universe:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_qNsJ_-MVU
5 Ways to fix the DC Movie Universe:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_qNsJ_-MVU
Honestly they just need to stop trying to cram too much into each film.
Batman v Superman had potential but had way too much going on, especially in the shorter theatrical version. There was no time to flesh out the story.
Same with Suicide Squad, way too many characters, not enough screen time for everyone. They should have started with a proper Harley Quinn/Joker/Deadshot movie, then followed it up with a full Suicide Squad film in which they could give more spotlight to the other, more obscure characters.
There are a lot of good ideas, but too many cooks in the proverbial kitchen.
Do we have to stay after the credits are over?? Black panther movie
I saw Black Panther on it's opening Thursday night showing in IMAX. For the life of me, I can't figure out why its doing so well in the box office. Don't get me wrong, I liked it but there was nothing special about it either. It was a typical Marvel movie, but with basically the characters and setting from the Lion King.
I think its extreme box-office success is due as much to featuring a black superhero as it is to being well made—meaning, a lot of black people are feeling a connection with this character and his world, a lot more than is typical with a Marvel movie, and they're making that known with their dollars.
I think its extreme box-office success is due as much to featuring a black superhero as it is to being well made—meaning, a lot of black people are feeling a connection with this character and his world, a lot more than is typical with a Marvel movie, and they're making that known with their dollars.
I don't think that's wrong, but I do think that's assigning too much influence to that narrative alone. White people, lots of while people, are making this movie the 1st or 2nd most successful Marvel movie of all time. I saw it. I really liked it. But I didn't see Thor Ragnorak in movie theaters but I enjoyed it more. Meanwhile Spiderman Homecoming also did better than Thor R. and while I also liked that move quite a bit, I found Thor to be better.
So are black people going to see Black Panther because it is some kind of cultural benchmark (where we also forget that Wesley Snipes played a black superhero from the Marvel universe 20 years ago) having a black super hero and a black cast in a land that celebrates black culture? Sure. Is that the primary motivation to the movie performing better? No way.
Avengers: Infinity War is on track to outsell Black Panther in presale tickets so anticipation is high for that one. It'll have to be good to have the legs that Black Panther had, though.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/avengers-infinity-war-beating-black-panther-set-new-presales-record-1101631
I think its extreme box-office success is due as much to featuring a black superhero as it is to being well made—meaning, a lot of black people are feeling a connection with this character and his world, a lot more than is typical with a Marvel movie, and they're making that known with their dollars.
I don't think that's wrong, but I do think that's assigning too much influence to that narrative alone. White people, lots of while people, are making this movie the 1st or 2nd most successful Marvel movie of all time. I saw it. I really liked it. But I didn't see Thor Ragnorak in movie theaters but I enjoyed it more. Meanwhile Spiderman Homecoming also did better than Thor R. and while I also liked that move quite a bit, I found Thor to be better.
So are black people going to see Black Panther because it is some kind of cultural benchmark (where we also forget that Wesley Snipes played a black superhero from the Marvel universe 20 years ago) having a black super hero and a black cast in a land that celebrates black culture? Sure. Is that the primary motivation to the movie performing better? No way.
I agree that there are lots of white people seeing Black Panther, because there are a lot of white Marvel nerds (such as myself)—in fact, comic-book nerddom tends to be dominated by whites.
But I think having a movie composed almost entirely of black characters gives it an added value that makes it more of a draw for black audiences than any other Marvel movie to date. Marvel expanded its appeal and its target audience with this movie, and the box-office totals are reflecting that.
Remember when breaking box office records actually used to mean something?
Now just about any branded junk can do it.
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The Solo Star Wars movie comes out 3 weeks after Infinity Wars which will probably cut into Infinity Wars ability to earn really well for very long at the box office. Though, I guess most blockbusters do like 70% of their earnings in the first 3 weeks, so we will see.Avengers: Infinity War is on track to outsell Black Panther in presale tickets so anticipation is high for that one. It'll have to be good to have the legs that Black Panther had, though.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/avengers-infinity-war-beating-black-panther-set-new-presales-record-1101631
It will be tough, if only due to increased competition.
It just occurred to me that I won't be able to see game 6 live tomorrow night, as I had purchased tickets back in March to see Avengers Infinity War in IMAX for tomorrow at 7 with my son. However, I should be able to see the end of the game. Really looking forward to seeing the movie, although I'm still more excited to see Venom more especially after seeing that second trailer yesterday.
It just occurred to me that I won't be able to see game 6 live tomorrow night, as I had purchased tickets back in March to see Avengers Infinity War in IMAX for tomorrow at 7 with my son. However, I should be able to see the end of the game. Really looking forward to seeing the movie, although I'm still more excited to see Venom more especially after seeing that second trailer yesterday.
Venom is a Sony picture so unfortunately, I am not sure its going to crossover to any of the new Spidey movies Marvel is doing, which I think sucks too. The Spidey, Venom, Carnage storyline is so great, wish it could come true.It just occurred to me that I won't be able to see game 6 live tomorrow night, as I had purchased tickets back in March to see Avengers Infinity War in IMAX for tomorrow at 7 with my son. However, I should be able to see the end of the game. Really looking forward to seeing the movie, although I'm still more excited to see Venom more especially after seeing that second trailer yesterday.
I’m mixed about Venom, primarily that his origin has been separated from Spider-Man. I’d love to see a movie trilogy involving the black suit, the creation of Venom, and the Carnage story line.
Venom is a Sony picture so unfortunately, I am not sure its going to crossover to any of the new Spidey movies Marvel is doing, which I think sucks too. The Spidey, Venom, Carnage storyline is so great, wish it could come true.It just occurred to me that I won't be able to see game 6 live tomorrow night, as I had purchased tickets back in March to see Avengers Infinity War in IMAX for tomorrow at 7 with my son. However, I should be able to see the end of the game. Really looking forward to seeing the movie, although I'm still more excited to see Venom more especially after seeing that second trailer yesterday.
I’m mixed about Venom, primarily that his origin has been separated from Spider-Man. I’d love to see a movie trilogy involving the black suit, the creation of Venom, and the Carnage story line.
Venom is a Sony picture so unfortunately, I am not sure its going to crossover to any of the new Spidey movies Marvel is doing, which I think sucks too. The Spidey, Venom, Carnage storyline is so great, wish it could come true.It just occurred to me that I won't be able to see game 6 live tomorrow night, as I had purchased tickets back in March to see Avengers Infinity War in IMAX for tomorrow at 7 with my son. However, I should be able to see the end of the game. Really looking forward to seeing the movie, although I'm still more excited to see Venom more especially after seeing that second trailer yesterday.
I’m mixed about Venom, primarily that his origin has been separated from Spider-Man. I’d love to see a movie trilogy involving the black suit, the creation of Venom, and the Carnage story line.
I wish all the non-Marvel studios would just realize they can't do these movies as well as Marvel and stop making them. I know this won't happen, because of money, but a comic nerd can dream.
It just occurred to me that I won't be able to see game 6 live tomorrow night, as I had purchased tickets back in March to see Avengers Infinity War in IMAX for tomorrow at 7 with my son. However, I should be able to see the end of the game. Really looking forward to seeing the movie, although I'm still more excited to see Venom more especially after seeing that second trailer yesterday.
I’m mixed about Venom, primarily that his origin has been separated from Spider-Man. I’d love to see a movie trilogy involving the black suit, the creation of Venom, and the Carnage story line.
Venom is a Sony picture so unfortunately, I am not sure its going to crossover to any of the new Spidey movies Marvel is doing, which I think sucks too. The Spidey, Venom, Carnage storyline is so great, wish it could come true.It just occurred to me that I won't be able to see game 6 live tomorrow night, as I had purchased tickets back in March to see Avengers Infinity War in IMAX for tomorrow at 7 with my son. However, I should be able to see the end of the game. Really looking forward to seeing the movie, although I'm still more excited to see Venom more especially after seeing that second trailer yesterday.
I’m mixed about Venom, primarily that his origin has been separated from Spider-Man. I’d love to see a movie trilogy involving the black suit, the creation of Venom, and the Carnage story line.
I wish all the non-Marvel studios would just realize they can't do these movies as well as Marvel and stop making them. I know this won't happen, because of money, but a comic nerd can dream.
I know I'm on an island, but I honestly believe the DCEU movies have been clearly better than the MCU. I even prefer The Amazing Spider-Man to the MCU version. I like how the DCEU movies are connected with each other, and coincidently I would have preferred Zach Snyder to still be on board and being the architect of this overall storyline/universe. The DCEU seem to have more connective tissue that ties the movies together, as opposed to the MCU, where the connections seem more superficial. To me, even if you haven't seen half of the MCU movies, it would change nothing about what may happen in Infinite War.
I wish all the non-Marvel studios would just realize they can't do these movies as well as Marvel and stop making them. I know this won't happen, because of money, but a comic nerd can dream.The non-Marvel movies of the Marvel Universe are subpar in my opinion, i agree.
I know I'm on an island, but I honestly believe the DCEU movies have been clearly better than the MCU
I heard Black Panther was the greatest marvel movie or one of the best. I went and saw it last night and went into it with an open mind but expecting greatness. It was good and entertaining but it was over rated and I thought a tad slow movie for the first 55 minutes. I also thought it was predictable. I think Guardians of the Galaxy 1 and few other of the movies was better.
I am going to call my friends on this one, too. I still like Black Panther and I love Chad Bowman. I thought Dani Gurira was incredible. Everyone hyped up Michael B. Jordan but I was not impressed. I would have liked to seen more of Winston Duke. My son thought the same it was a good movie but all the hype we heard was nuts.QuoteI wish all the non-Marvel studios would just realize they can't do these movies as well as Marvel and stop making them. I know this won't happen, because of money, but a comic nerd can dream.The non-Marvel movies of the Marvel Universe are subpar in my opinion, i agree.QuoteI know I'm on an island, but I honestly believe the DCEU movies have been clearly better than the MCU
I think the island statement is apt, for expressing that you're in the minority. I think the DCEU movies are not as bad as people say. I have liked them all but the Marvel Movies are better, perform better fiscally. That being said, I do think some of the fan boys are over harsh on the DCEU movies.
DC Animation is the best..The people working on this was like an anime all-star team. Still haven’t gotten around to watching it, but looking forward to it
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great story and animation
Infinity War was really good. It is definitely a spectacle, and for all the moving parts, they weave it together really well.
It’s very much a “part one”; I’m anxious to see what comes next.
Infinity War was really good. It is definitely a spectacle, and for all the moving parts, they weave it together really well.
It’s very much a “part one”; I’m anxious to see what comes next.
Did you see it in IMAX? I think my brother-in-law and I are going to see it in IMAX Monday night, when the crowds are small.
https://youtu.be/sfM7_JLk-84
Looking forward to this.
I think she's great in the role but I was hoping to see more of Kristen Wiig's character. surprised they showed Steve Trevor -- would have been a helluva surprise in the theaterhttps://youtu.be/sfM7_JLk-84
Looking forward to this.
me too, I think Gal Gadot nailed the wonder woman role
I think she's great in the role but I was hoping to see more of Kristen Wiig's character. surprised they showed Steve Trevor -- would have been a helluva surprise in the theaterhttps://youtu.be/sfM7_JLk-84
Looking forward to this.
me too, I think Gal Gadot nailed the wonder woman role
I must live under a rock because I had no idea he was coming back. bet the blast knocked him into some sort of time warp propelling him to the future. ::)I think she's great in the role but I was hoping to see more of Kristen Wiig's character. surprised they showed Steve Trevor -- would have been a helluva surprise in the theaterhttps://youtu.be/sfM7_JLk-84
Looking forward to this.
me too, I think Gal Gadot nailed the wonder woman role
It's already been well known Steve will be back anyways so they didn't bother with the suspense.. They did keep fans guessing though how on earth Steve was alive and practically not aged since WW1.
I was disappointed by WW84. It wasn’t terrible, but it was too long, and certain plot points seemed overly convenient and unearned.I agree!! Very disappointed is a understatement..way it started out, I thought it was going to be great but that was it.. I almost turn it off..mostly it was about Maxwell Lord character..
Major disappointment considering how good Wonder Woman was. Personally I didn't even like the start. 3 days later and there is nothing memorable from it.I was disappointed by WW84. It wasn’t terrible, but it was too long, and certain plot points seemed overly convenient and unearned.I agree!! Very disappointed is a understatement..way it started out, I thought it was going to be great but that was it.. I almost turn it off..mostly it was about Maxwell Lord character..
Major disappointment considering how good Wonder Woman was. Personally I didn't even like the start. 3 days later and there is nothing memorable from it.I was disappointed by WW84. It wasn’t terrible, but it was too long, and certain plot points seemed overly convenient and unearned.I agree!! Very disappointed is a understatement..way it started out, I thought it was going to be great but that was it.. I almost turn it off..mostly it was about Maxwell Lord character..
Anybody watched Suicide Squad yet?
With James Gunn directing, I had high expectations. After seeing reviews (90+% positive on Rotten Tomatoes) I expected even more.
I was disappointed. The opening was good, and King Shark was effective. I thought the rest was fairly boring. Yes, there’s gore and heavy profanity, but it didn’t seem to have much soul or purpose to me.
Thanks
I enjoyed this Suicide Squad a lot more than the prior one. I do like the portrayal of Harley through all the movies (yes even Birds of Prey). Glad to see Starro make the big screen. I also liked all of the stars that had small roles in the movie. That was pretty fun. The cameo by Pom Klementieff was a nice touch tying Gunn's other big franchise into this one.
Question for those of you who follow the Marvel Cinematic Universe. I'm up to date up to Avengers Endgame (I guess end of Phase 3?). Apparently the next series/films I need to watch in chronological order are:
WandaVision
Falcon and the Winter Soldier
Loki
Then the first film in the Phase 4 which is Black Widow. Question is, if I go straight to Black Widow and miss the 3 TV series will I ruin the viewing experience for myself or miss out on key details of the plot?
Yeah Black Widow is set earlier in time, though does start setting up a villain for later movies. And I don't think it matters at all which order you watch the 3 Marvel shows on Disney + as nothing happens in any that relates to the others (they all set up various movie points going forward though).Question for those of you who follow the Marvel Cinematic Universe. I'm up to date up to Avengers Endgame (I guess end of Phase 3?). Apparently the next series/films I need to watch in chronological order are:
WandaVision
Falcon and the Winter Soldier
Loki
Then the first film in the Phase 4 which is Black Widow. Question is, if I go straight to Black Widow and miss the 3 TV series will I ruin the viewing experience for myself or miss out on key details of the plot?
Nope.
Yeah Black Widow is set earlier in time, though does start setting up a villain for later movies. And I don't think it matters at all which order you watch the 3 Marvel shows on Disney + as nothing happens in any that relates to the others (they all set up various movie points going forward though).Question for those of you who follow the Marvel Cinematic Universe. I'm up to date up to Avengers Endgame (I guess end of Phase 3?). Apparently the next series/films I need to watch in chronological order are:
WandaVision
Falcon and the Winter Soldier
Loki
Then the first film in the Phase 4 which is Black Widow. Question is, if I go straight to Black Widow and miss the 3 TV series will I ruin the viewing experience for myself or miss out on key details of the plot?
Nope.
- I love Benedict, am keen to see what the new Dr Strange will bring. Hope it gets WEIRD
Quote- I love Benedict, am keen to see what the new Dr Strange will bring. Hope it gets WEIRD
It be plenty WEIRD from what I read.
WandaVision, Loki, then Falcon/Winter Soldier. I really loved WandaVision once I got past the first few episodes which were just weird. The back half of the show was fantastic and some of the best tv I've seen in a while period. Loki had nice solid pacing and was well done all the way throughout. I liked Sam and Bucky's banter, but thought the action stuff was a bit much.Yeah Black Widow is set earlier in time, though does start setting up a villain for later movies. And I don't think it matters at all which order you watch the 3 Marvel shows on Disney + as nothing happens in any that relates to the others (they all set up various movie points going forward though).Question for those of you who follow the Marvel Cinematic Universe. I'm up to date up to Avengers Endgame (I guess end of Phase 3?). Apparently the next series/films I need to watch in chronological order are:
WandaVision
Falcon and the Winter Soldier
Loki
Then the first film in the Phase 4 which is Black Widow. Question is, if I go straight to Black Widow and miss the 3 TV series will I ruin the viewing experience for myself or miss out on key details of the plot?
Nope.
What was your opinion of the three? I liked Loki and WandaVision a lot, although the latter might turn some folks off. I thought the production of Falcon / Winter Soldier was lesser. It still wasn’t terrible and had some high points, but I saw it closer to Agents of Shield than I did “prestige television”.
Watched Suicide Squad last night. I enjoyed it. It was pretty much a Guardians of the Galaxy type thing but on earth.
- She-Hulk is kinda a blank sheet for me, not expecting anything, feels a bit Iron-Fist-ey (probs gonna be mediocre)
Watched Suicide Squad last night. I enjoyed it. It was pretty much a Guardians of the Galaxy type thing but on earth.
- She-Hulk is kinda a blank sheet for me, not expecting anything, feels a bit Iron-Fist-ey (probs gonna be mediocre)
Don't sleep on She-Hulk. The character itself is certainly third-tier, but the lead writer they brought in is extremely talented and came up in very non-superhero genres, which could make for some interesting quirks. And besides, it's gonna star Tatiana Maslany (she of Orphan Black fame), who is an absolute treasure of a performer.
- She-Hulk is kinda a blank sheet for me, not expecting anything, feels a bit Iron-Fist-ey (probs gonna be mediocre)
Don't sleep on She-Hulk. The character itself is certainly third-tier, but the lead writer they brought in is extremely talented and came up in very non-superhero genres, which could make for some interesting quirks. And besides, it's gonna star Tatiana Maslany (she of Orphan Black fame), who is an absolute treasure of a performer.
Question for those of you who follow the Marvel Cinematic Universe. I'm up to date up to Avengers Endgame (I guess end of Phase 3?). Apparently the next series/films I need to watch in chronological order are:
WandaVision
Falcon and the Winter Soldier
Loki
Then the first film in the Phase 4 which is Black Widow. Question is, if I go straight to Black Widow and miss the 3 TV series will I ruin the viewing experience for myself or miss out on key details of the plot?
Nope.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vYrgEXcbvdsI loved Raimi's Doc Oc (and Green Goblin). Love to see at least one make a return
Please let this one live up to its potential.
If all the Raimi villains rumored show up they better not skip the best villain so far ..... Bully Maguire ftwhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vYrgEXcbvdsI loved Raimi's Doc Oc (and Green Goblin). Love to see at least one make a return
Please let this one live up to its potential.
LOL, TP.If all the Raimi villains rumored show up they better not skip the best villain so far ..... Bully Maguire ftwhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vYrgEXcbvdsI loved Raimi's Doc Oc (and Green Goblin). Love to see at least one make a return
Please let this one live up to its potential.
That meme/troll version on the net (where he dominants anyone and everything) would be hilarious. Make him straight boss.LOL, TP.If all the Raimi villains rumored show up they better not skip the best villain so far ..... Bully Maguire ftwhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vYrgEXcbvdsI loved Raimi's Doc Oc (and Green Goblin). Love to see at least one make a return
Please let this one live up to its potential.
I would love that more than anything. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oh6GeCELffk
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vYrgEXcbvdsPretty bold. Could be a lot of fun. Anyone in their 30's right now who watched those Raimi Spider-man movies (like me) is probably feeling a little more excited than they/I want to admit.
Please let this one live up to its potential.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vYrgEXcbvdsPretty bold. Could be a lot of fun. Anyone in their 30's right now who watched those Raimi Spider-man movies (like me) is probably feeling a little more excited than they/I want to admit.
Please let this one live up to its potential.
It was indeed those villains from the Raimi films. We will also be getting an appearance from prior Spider-Menhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vYrgEXcbvdsPretty bold. Could be a lot of fun. Anyone in their 30's right now who watched those Raimi Spider-man movies (like me) is probably feeling a little more excited than they/I want to admit.
Please let this one live up to its potential.
I have trouble keeping up with what's going on with the Marvel movies, but I watched this trailer with no prior knowledge and the Alfred Molina Doc Ock (and that was Willem Dafoe's voice, right?) got me big time. Just watched the Raimi films with my kids like month ago so they'll be excited for this too.
Someone going to let Tobey Maguire out of movie jail?It was indeed those villains from the Raimi films. We will also be getting an appearance from prior Spider-Menhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vYrgEXcbvdsPretty bold. Could be a lot of fun. Anyone in their 30's right now who watched those Raimi Spider-man movies (like me) is probably feeling a little more excited than they/I want to admit.
Please let this one live up to its potential.
I have trouble keeping up with what's going on with the Marvel movies, but I watched this trailer with no prior knowledge and the Alfred Molina Doc Ock (and that was Willem Dafoe's voice, right?) got me big time. Just watched the Raimi films with my kids like month ago so they'll be excited for this too.
That is one of the things that has so much speculation. There are rumors that both Maguire and Garfield are in it because their villains are (Jamie Foxx is back as Electro from the Garfield movies, along with Molina and supposedly Dafoe from the Maguire ones). I would imagine there will be a bunch of surprises and all sorts of appearances (perhaps all the aunt may's, MJ's, stacy's, etc.), wouldn't shock me if they had Miles Morales make an appearance as well (the Spiderman from the animated movies making a live action appearance).Someone going to let Tobey Maguire out of movie jail?It was indeed those villains from the Raimi films. We will also be getting an appearance from prior Spider-Menhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vYrgEXcbvdsPretty bold. Could be a lot of fun. Anyone in their 30's right now who watched those Raimi Spider-man movies (like me) is probably feeling a little more excited than they/I want to admit.
Please let this one live up to its potential.
I have trouble keeping up with what's going on with the Marvel movies, but I watched this trailer with no prior knowledge and the Alfred Molina Doc Ock (and that was Willem Dafoe's voice, right?) got me big time. Just watched the Raimi films with my kids like month ago so they'll be excited for this too.
That is one of the things that has so much speculation. There are rumors that both Maguire and Garfield are in it because their villains are (Jamie Foxx is back as Electro from the Garfield movies, along with Molina and supposedly Dafoe from the Maguire ones). I would imagine there will be a bunch of surprises and all sorts of appearances (perhaps all the aunt may's, MJ's, stacy's, etc.), wouldn't shock me if they had Miles Morales make an appearance as well (the Spiderman from the animated movies making a live action appearance).Someone going to let Tobey Maguire out of movie jail?It was indeed those villains from the Raimi films. We will also be getting an appearance from prior Spider-Menhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vYrgEXcbvdsPretty bold. Could be a lot of fun. Anyone in their 30's right now who watched those Raimi Spider-man movies (like me) is probably feeling a little more excited than they/I want to admit.
Please let this one live up to its potential.
I have trouble keeping up with what's going on with the Marvel movies, but I watched this trailer with no prior knowledge and the Alfred Molina Doc Ock (and that was Willem Dafoe's voice, right?) got me big time. Just watched the Raimi films with my kids like month ago so they'll be excited for this too.
There are so many ways they could take a multiverse story, I just can't wait for this movie.
Saw "Wakanda Forever" last night.
I loved Namor, they really captured his grumpiness quite well.
The action scenes were tight, the cinematography beautiful, and the soundtrack was excellent.
But this movie is SLOW, way too many extraneous scenes that bog down the pace. And the main character, Shuri, has an unsatisfying arc. We are told that she's full of grief and rage but it doesn't feel earned. She's a bit wooden here, and doesn't deliver the emotional punch the movie needed.
Saw "Wakanda Forever" last night.
I loved Namor, they really captured his grumpiness quite well.
The action scenes were tight, the cinematography beautiful, and the soundtrack was excellent.
But this movie is SLOW, way too many extraneous scenes that bog down the pace. And the main character, Shuri, has an unsatisfying arc. We are told that she's full of grief and rage but it doesn't feel earned. She's a bit wooden here, and doesn't deliver the emotional punch the movie needed.
I think this is a fair assessment. It’s a long movie that easily could have been edited down. I think that ideally they would have turned the first 100 minutes or so into a bridge series on Disney+, and then expanded on the rest of it into Black Panther 2.
saw Black Adam last weekend. wasn't bad. didn't think it was as bad as the critics made it out to be although there was an overkill of Rock glaring in various scenes. my wife was totally thrown with the whole Shazam thing so that took away from her ability to just get into the story as it was presented
Anyone watched New Black Panther movie yet? How was it?Felt it was better than the first movie. A good villain, a hero arc, and world building makes it a good watch. Namor was somewhere between Thanos and Killmonger solid performance. Half the cast were absolutely superb. Some say it's long but it had to tell a lot of stories. Only a few things story and acting wise bothered me but I'd overlook them due to the quality as a whole.
I don't know that I would say it was better than the first movie but I pretty much agree with the rest of your thoughts.Anyone watched New Black Panther movie yet? How was it?Felt it was better than the first movie. A good villain, a hero arc, and world building makes it a good watch. Namor was somewhere between Thanos and Killmonger solid performance. Half the cast were absolutely superb. Some say it's long but it had to tell a lot of stories. Only a few things story and acting wise bothered me but I'd overlook them due to the quality as a whole.
4 out of 5 movie.
Anyone watched New Black Panther movie yet? How was it?Felt it was better than the first movie. A good villain, a hero arc, and world building makes it a good watch. Namor was somewhere between Thanos and Killmonger solid performance. Half the cast were absolutely superb. Some say it's long but it had to tell a lot of stories. Only a few things story and acting wise bothered me but I'd overlook them due to the quality as a whole.
4 out of 5 movie.
The original was too "Marvel formula" and villain was a replica power wise to the hero which I hate in superhero movies. Never felt there was ever jeopardy either in the first movie. The mini civil war was weak principal wise as it wasn't built up enough to believe. Killmonger was performed well and had a ideology that challenges the hero which is the best plus.Anyone watched New Black Panther movie yet? How was it?Felt it was better than the first movie. A good villain, a hero arc, and world building makes it a good watch. Namor was somewhere between Thanos and Killmonger solid performance. Half the cast were absolutely superb. Some say it's long but it had to tell a lot of stories. Only a few things story and acting wise bothered me but I'd overlook them due to the quality as a whole.
4 out of 5 movie.
What did you find lacking about the original? The first Black Panther was easily one of my favorite Marvel movies. As noted above, I thought there was a lot of good stuff in the sequel, but I didn’t think it worked well as a self-contained movie arc.
Have t seen most Marvel but I had a good time with Wakanda Forever . I read bunch of the plot holes and I see it now but didn’t catch on my watch.
I really liked the bad guy. Liked the effects at how he moved. It reminded me of the clash of the titans remake where Pegasus is moving through the city. Cool stuff.
But what made me like this more than other Marvel films is just that it took itself serious. That’s just a personal taste for me . It’s not right or wrong. Just what I like.
Have t seen most Marvel but I had a good time with Wakanda Forever . I read bunch of the plot holes and I see it now but didn’t catch on my watch.
I really liked the bad guy. Liked the effects at how he moved. It reminded me of the clash of the titans remake where Pegasus is moving through the city. Cool stuff.
But what made me like this more than other Marvel films is just that it took itself serious. That’s just a personal taste for me . It’s not right or wrong. Just what I like.
Yeah, Namor is one of the better villains in recent movies.
According to a new rumor, Marvel Studios might have finally made one of the most important casting decisions of The Multiverse Saga. In a Patreon post, Marvel scooper Daniel Richtman claimed that Adam Driver (Star Wars: The Force Awakens) is in final talks to star in the MCU’s Fantastic Four reboot as Reed Richards, aka Mister Fantastic.
have to agree that I don't see him as Reed Richards. Thought John Krasinski would be taking on that role if Marvel got around to making another FF movieQuoteAccording to a new rumor, Marvel Studios might have finally made one of the most important casting decisions of The Multiverse Saga. In a Patreon post, Marvel scooper Daniel Richtman claimed that Adam Driver (Star Wars: The Force Awakens) is in final talks to star in the MCU’s Fantastic Four reboot as Reed Richards, aka Mister Fantastic.
I hope this isn't true. I truly don't understand how Driver keeps getting work. I think he's wooden, creepy and can't act. He was terrible as Kylo, and he'd be horrible as Mr. Fantastic.
QuoteAccording to a new rumor, Marvel Studios might have finally made one of the most important casting decisions of The Multiverse Saga. In a Patreon post, Marvel scooper Daniel Richtman claimed that Adam Driver (Star Wars: The Force Awakens) is in final talks to star in the MCU’s Fantastic Four reboot as Reed Richards, aka Mister Fantastic.
I hope this isn't true. I truly don't understand how Driver keeps getting work. I think he's wooden, creepy and can't act. He was terrible as Kylo, and he'd be horrible as Mr. Fantastic.
Being a big Snyder movie fan I’m bummed out . People got waay to angry at a character being depicted differently. It’s not Luke Skywalker that has one story. There’s a hundred different interpretations.
I have no interest in the junk marvel keeps rolling out and I have even less excitement for James Gunn. That dude is acting like a child on social media instead of an executive. Highlighting what sone 12 year old nerd criticizes and shooting it down over Twitter. I think he talks for people when he shouldn’t.
I noticed he got quiet when Affleck spoke up about absolutely not wanting to do what they are doing. But then he’s back to being an online jerk again.
I think his Superman movie may be fine. It’s a pretty easy thing to make a formulaic superhero movie. Not hard to please mass audiences.
Anybody else seen Guardians 3 yet?
I really enjoyed it. It doesn't raise the bar for superhero movies, but it's a good mission with some emotional oomph to it.
Being a big Snyder movie fan I’m bummed out . People got waay to angry at a character being depicted differently. It’s not Luke Skywalker that has one story. There’s a hundred different interpretations.
I have no interest in the junk marvel keeps rolling out and I have even less excitement for James Gunn. That dude is acting like a child on social media instead of an executive. Highlighting what sone 12 year old nerd criticizes and shooting it down over Twitter. I think he talks for people when he shouldn’t.
I noticed he got quiet when Affleck spoke up about absolutely not wanting to do what they are doing. But then he’s back to being an online jerk again.
I think his Superman movie may be fine. It’s a pretty easy thing to make a formulaic superhero movie. Not hard to please mass audiences.
We had something different than the standard cookie cutter CBM. I've lost all interest in DC going forward. Hopefully one day history will show the blame for these snyder movies underperforming were the result of incompetent/greedy studio execs.
I don't know what it is with DC films - I can't really put my finger on what exactly it is, but something about the way they film them makes the movies feel very unnatural and unrealistic to me, and I find it very hard to get immersed in them.
QuoteI don't know what it is with DC films - I can't really put my finger on what exactly it is, but something about the way they film them makes the movies feel very unnatural and unrealistic to me, and I find it very hard to get immersed in them.
We are talking superhero movies right? I mean I love comics, read since mid 70s but realistic is something they are not.
I never read reviews as they detest this genre, why let someone else's opinion which is all a review is, affect weather you like a movie or not.
Being a big Snyder movie fan I’m bummed out . People got waay to angry at a character being depicted differently. It’s not Luke Skywalker that has one story. There’s a hundred different interpretations.
I have no interest in the junk marvel keeps rolling out and I have even less excitement for James Gunn. That dude is acting like a child on social media instead of an executive. Highlighting what sone 12 year old nerd criticizes and shooting it down over Twitter. I think he talks for people when he shouldn’t.
I noticed he got quiet when Affleck spoke up about absolutely not wanting to do what they are doing. But then he’s back to being an online jerk again.
I think his Superman movie may be fine. It’s a pretty easy thing to make a formulaic superhero movie. Not hard to please mass audiences.
We had something different than the standard cookie cutter CBM. I've lost all interest in DC going forward. Hopefully one day history will show the blame for these snyder movies underperforming were the result of incompetent/greedy studio execs.
I don't know what it is with DC films - I can't really put my finger on what exactly it is, but something about the way they film them makes the movies feel very unnatural and unrealistic to me, and I find it very hard to get immersed in them.
I know that sounds crazy when were talking about superhero movies, but when I watch the Marvel films a lot of them do manage to really immerse me into the world and into the characters - excessive CGI somtimes kills it a bit, but other then that I find most of them pretty good in that regard.
I think its something about the way the DC films handle the camera movements. There is always a lot of fast moving, jerking around and its almost like thereis a lack of "weight" and "impact" to scenes. Like the physics just doesn't add up right. I really cant explain it but they just dont feel "believable".
The Nolan Batman movies ands the "Glass" trilogy were kinda exceptions to that rule - they were much more grounded and felt much more real and believable. I felt like they were the best DC films i've seen over the past 2 decades. Wonder Woman was quite enjoyable as well, though it did have a couple of those "that just looks super fake" moments that I referred to earlier, but it was mostly enjoyable. Shazam wasn't bad as well, but same deal.
Being a big Snyder movie fan I’m bummed out . People got waay to angry at a character being depicted differently. It’s not Luke Skywalker that has one story. There’s a hundred different interpretations.
I have no interest in the junk marvel keeps rolling out and I have even less excitement for James Gunn. That dude is acting like a child on social media instead of an executive. Highlighting what sone 12 year old nerd criticizes and shooting it down over Twitter. I think he talks for people when he shouldn’t.
I noticed he got quiet when Affleck spoke up about absolutely not wanting to do what they are doing. But then he’s back to being an online jerk again.
I think his Superman movie may be fine. It’s a pretty easy thing to make a formulaic superhero movie. Not hard to please mass audiences.
We had something different than the standard cookie cutter CBM. I've lost all interest in DC going forward. Hopefully one day history will show the blame for these snyder movies underperforming were the result of incompetent/greedy studio execs.
I don't know what it is with DC films - I can't really put my finger on what exactly it is, but something about the way they film them makes the movies feel very unnatural and unrealistic to me, and I find it very hard to get immersed in them.
I know that sounds crazy when were talking about superhero movies, but when I watch the Marvel films a lot of them do manage to really immerse me into the world and into the characters - excessive CGI somtimes kills it a bit, but other then that I find most of them pretty good in that regard.
I think its something about the way the DC films handle the camera movements. There is always a lot of fast moving, jerking around and its almost like thereis a lack of "weight" and "impact" to scenes. Like the physics just doesn't add up right. I really cant explain it but they just dont feel "believable".
The Nolan Batman movies ands the "Glass" trilogy were kinda exceptions to that rule - they were much more grounded and felt much more real and believable. I felt like they were the best DC films i've seen over the past 2 decades. Wonder Woman was quite enjoyable as well, though it did have a couple of those "that just looks super fake" moments that I referred to earlier, but it was mostly enjoyable. Shazam wasn't bad as well, but same deal.
I think DC's best moments are when the screen isn't too busy. Look at Shazam 2. The fight scenes stunk. Just generic CGI clutter. Same with Justice League, Aquaman, Black Adam, Birds of Prey, and the Snyder films.
They try too hard to copy Marvel when they should be blazing their own trails. Let the characters breathe a little bit so that when the action does hit, it hits hard. Marvel is going through some fatigue with their formulaic approach.
DC would be wise to try a different tact. I think Gunn realizes this - Peacemaker and the Suicide Squad were crisp, unique, and good to look at.
I know what he means about DC films, though. The film style itself seems more washed out and detached than Marvel movies. They're less personal, and a lot of that is the direction itself.
Echo was really, really bad. It might be time to focus on telling good stories with good characters again, instead of focusing on identity politics and representation.
Vincent D'Onofrio was great as usual, but was wasted.
well she is actually a deaf amputee and Native American. So they kept that part authenticEcho was really, really bad. It might be time to focus on telling good stories with good characters again, instead of focusing on identity politics and representation.
Vincent D'Onofrio was great as usual, but was wasted.
There were parts that weren't so bad but I wished they focused more on the action. The actors outside of the main character weren't bad either. Although it would have been more of regular superhero movie, but the little cousin was underused as comedic relief. The worst part is that the main character, Echo, was an incredibly horrible actress. Her expression was completely the same for everything. If she is going to be mute, which I understand it's a real thing, they should have found an actress that can act out more with eyes and expressions. I also think she looks way too much like Rosa from Brooklyn 99.
well she is actually a deaf amputee and Native American. So they kept that part authenticEcho was really, really bad. It might be time to focus on telling good stories with good characters again, instead of focusing on identity politics and representation.
Vincent D'Onofrio was great as usual, but was wasted.
There were parts that weren't so bad but I wished they focused more on the action. The actors outside of the main character weren't bad either. Although it would have been more of regular superhero movie, but the little cousin was underused as comedic relief. The worst part is that the main character, Echo, was an incredibly horrible actress. Her expression was completely the same for everything. If she is going to be mute, which I understand it's a real thing, they should have found an actress that can act out more with eyes and expressions. I also think she looks way too much like Rosa from Brooklyn 99.
I think most of that is because she is deaf.well she is actually a deaf amputee and Native American. So they kept that part authenticEcho was really, really bad. It might be time to focus on telling good stories with good characters again, instead of focusing on identity politics and representation.
Vincent D'Onofrio was great as usual, but was wasted.
There were parts that weren't so bad but I wished they focused more on the action. The actors outside of the main character weren't bad either. Although it would have been more of regular superhero movie, but the little cousin was underused as comedic relief. The worst part is that the main character, Echo, was an incredibly horrible actress. Her expression was completely the same for everything. If she is going to be mute, which I understand it's a real thing, they should have found an actress that can act out more with eyes and expressions. I also think she looks way too much like Rosa from Brooklyn 99.
I agree and the Native American story part was interesting, although I didn't really understand her power. I thought that part was good, the first fight was cool, the bowling scene was pretty good and she did seem like a good fighter. I have no problem with that at all. It's just the acting itself was really bland. At the end, I didn't have any special connection with her character at all. Some other characters like the Black Widow's sister, the new arrow girl for example, they were good actress that brought something memorable to their role. Her was just meh.