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Around the League => The Draft => Topic started by: EvilEmpire on February 26, 2018, 09:36:53 PM
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I know this one is a ways away but if the NBA commish lifts the 1yr college eligibility rule this will actually be like 2 drafts in one since all the tops HSers will be available for the 2019 draft.
2019 Mock
http://www.nbadraftroom.com/p/2019-nba-mock-draft.html
2020 Mock
http://www.nbadraftroom.com/p/2020-nba-mock-draft.html
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Man. I freed up a lot of time about a month ago when I gave up on the Lakers pick conveying and stopped watching videos of this year’s top 5. Guess that time will be going to film of Kingspick2020 now... 8) 8)
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Man. I freed up a lot of time about a month ago when I gave up on the Lakers pick conveying and stopped watching videos of this year’s top 5. Guess that time will be going to film of Kingspick2020 now... 8) 8)
No need to stop there. #Memphispick2021!
Mike
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If I am understanding transactions correctly, miracle scenario for C's in the 2019 draft would be #2 (fm Sac), #9 (fm Memphis), #15 (fm Clips) and C's own pick.
Season watch threads will dominate early here in the fall.
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To be honest, all of the top 7 prospects seem very underwhelming. Everyone seems to be very high on Bol Bol, but I'm not convinced he is going to have a long career based on his playing style, and his father's medical history, and how tall he is. At least he's 7'3 and not 7'7 lol.
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I could live with Bol Bol. Can we merge the other on to Kings pick thread with this one? I posted there first
If HS seniors can come out, what about this Center who is already 6-11 and 16!
https://www.cbssports.com/video/player/embed?args=player_id%3D1079893571976%26channel%3Dcollege-basketball-recruiting%26pcid%3D1079893571976%26width%3D432%26height%3D243%26autoplay%3Dtrue%26comp_ads_enabled%3Dfalse%26uvpc%3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fsports.cbsimg.net%2Fvideo%2Fuvp%2Fconfig%2Fv4%2Fuvp_247sports.xml%26uvpc_m%3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fsports.cbsimg.net%2Fvideo%2Fuvp%2Fconfig%2Fv4%2Fuvp_247sports_m.xml%26partner%3D247%26partner_m%3D247_mobile%26utag%3D247sportssite%26resizable%3Dtrue
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To be honest, all of the top 7 prospects seem very underwhelming. Everyone seems to be very high on Bol Bol, but I'm not convinced he is going to have a long career based on his playing style, and his father's medical history, and how tall he is. At least he's 7'3 and not 7'7 lol.
Not sure why either. He's young so I don't want to call him a future bust, but he definitely doesn't "wow" you. He's just taller than his competition, but when you compare him against NBA players when they were his age and it's clear to see how far away he is from being a top prospect.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyjOHMTpCeg
I'd be happy with Zion and hope that Stevens can mold him into a ultra-athletic Draymond. I've seen the Barkley and Grandmama comparisons and you can see that as well. His athleticism and strength at his age is freak level.
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Zion.
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If I am understanding transactions correctly, miracle scenario for C's in the 2019 draft would be #2 (fm Sac), #9 (fm Memphis), #15 (fm Clips) and C's own pick.
Season watch threads will dominate early here in the fall.
I actually want that Memphis pick to keep carrying over until it’s unprotected. A better chance of a star player that way.
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If I am understanding transactions correctly, miracle scenario for C's in the 2019 draft would be #2 (fm Sac), #9 (fm Memphis), #15 (fm Clips) and C's own pick.
Season watch threads will dominate early here in the fall.
Yeah, which is why we need to age limit rescinded in order to have the top 2020 guys to be in the 2019 draft.
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James Wiseman has to be our target if Silver eliminates one and done, thereby allowing HS seniors to enter the 2019 draft. Kid is said to have Anthony Davis level talent. Watched some video. Very smooth, long and athletic. That Sacramento pick looking better by the day. Too bad it’s number 1 protected!!
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James Wiseman has to be our target if Silver eliminates one and done, thereby allowing HS seniors to enter the 2019 draft. Kid is said to have Anthony Davis level talent. Watched some video. Very smooth, long and athletic. That Sacramento pick looking better by the day. Too bad it’s number 1 protected!!
speaking of Wiseman, he is coached by Penny Hardaway and his teammate is also a top level high school junior (Chandler Lawson). I know this because I saw a report that that the U of Memphis was thinking of firing Tubby Smith and hiring Penny in a large part because Wiseman, Lawson, and DJ Jeffries (another high level Memphis area junior who is on Penny's AAU team) are not even considering attending the University of Memphis. U of Memphis obviously thinks that hiring Penny will lead to at least 1, if not all 3 of those kids, going to U of Memphis. Supposedly if Penny does get that job he will hire Larry Brown as his top assistant to help guide him for the first few seasons.
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What are the experts saying about this draft in general? Is it as strong as the upcoming 2018 draft? (I assume not.)
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What are the experts saying about this draft in general? Is it as strong as the upcoming 2018 draft? (I assume not.)
At this time it does not look as strong. Remember that Bagley was the #1 guy in that class, and this year he could go 3rd behind Ayton and Doncic. Porter might be a better prospect than all those guys next year as well, although Zion and RJ Barrett could catch up with improvement.
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Jay King
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@ByJayKing
This is cool. Jayson Tatum surprised future Celtics star RJ Barrett with the Gatorade National Player of the Year trophy. https://youtu.be/tFfixHgpG70
FTFY Jay King
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If I am understanding transactions correctly, miracle scenario for C's in the 2019 draft would be #2 (fm Sac), #9 (fm Memphis), #15 (fm Clips) and C's own pick.
Season watch threads will dominate early here in the fall.
I'm with the poster below in hoping that the Memphis pick rolls over again to be unprotected, but how did you forget to just list our pick as the 30th? ;D
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If I am understanding transactions correctly, miracle scenario for C's in the 2019 draft would be #2 (fm Sac), #9 (fm Memphis), #15 (fm Clips) and C's own pick.
Season watch threads will dominate early here in the fall.
I'm with the poster below in hoping that the Memphis pick rolls over again to be unprotected, but how did you forget to just list our pick as the 30th? ;D
The Memphis pick doesn't become unprotected until 2021.
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Charles Bassey has reclassified from 2020 to 2019.
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1007015106650234881
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/western-kentucky-rick-stansbury-land-five-star-basketball-recruit-charles-bassey-222833709.html
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Charles Bassey has reclassified from 2020 to 2019.
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1007015106650234881
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/western-kentucky-rick-stansbury-land-five-star-basketball-recruit-charles-bassey-222833709.html
TP for the update.
Wow, an actual big man!
Mike
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Charles Bassey has reclassified from 2020 to 2019.
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1007015106650234881
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/western-kentucky-rick-stansbury-land-five-star-basketball-recruit-charles-bassey-222833709.html
TP for the update.
Wow, an actual big man!
Mike
TP to both of you! Hope he actually appears in a game at WKU unlike Mitchell Robinson!
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https://www.masslive.com/expo/sports/erry-2018/06/329655c5864386/boston_celtics_big_board_2019.html#incart_river_index
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Kings will have worst record next season
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Kings will have worst record next season
Oh, I think Atlanta's going to have something to say about that...
Mike
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Kings will have worst record next season
Oh, I think Atlanta's going to have something to say about that...
Mike
I expect both to have the same lottery odds.
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https://youtu.be/fZ9ksjBYabc
I like Vernon Carey even better. 260 pounds already. Super strong and a good athlete.
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https://youtu.be/fZ9ksjBYabc
I like Vernon Carey even better. 260 pounds already. Super strong and a good athlete.
I thought Carey was in the 2020 draft is he going to reclassify?
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Tankathon official mock has us picking 3 and 9
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dgeapm0X4AMarMS?format=jpg)
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Tankathon official mock has us picking 3 and 9
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dgeapm0X4AMarMS?format=jpg)
I'm hoping that the Memphis pick goes until 2021 when it's unprotected but, 3&9 is the outcome, I won't bet disappointed, either.
Mike
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http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/23916865/duke-blue-devils-rj-barrett-leads-nba-draft-prospects-way-too-early-top-25
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http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/23916865/duke-blue-devils-rj-barrett-leads-nba-draft-prospects-way-too-early-top-25
How does ESPN not list Zion Williamson?
It would be incredible if we end up with the third and ninth pick especially if Robert Williams works out. Ainge will have so many options.
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http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/23916865/duke-blue-devils-rj-barrett-leads-nba-draft-prospects-way-too-early-top-25
How does ESPN not list Zion Williamson?
It would be incredible if we end up with the third and ninth pick especially if Robert Williams works out. Ainge will have so many options.
It's the best prospects for each team, so they have Barrett > Williamson.
Mike
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I don't know much about Zion as a prospect, but this is impressive.
I believe he's 6'6" and over 250.
Dunking from the free throw line...
https://mobile.twitter.com/SBNation/status/1012450120095301632/video/1
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Looking at one of the mocks here, I did a little breakdown just off basic info:
TOP TIER - All swings and wings:
SF - R.J Barrett - Duke
SG - Cam Reddish - Duke
SF - Nassir Little - UNC
TIER 2 - High Upside Forwards:
SF - Sekou Doumbouya - France
SF/PF - Zion Williamson - Duke
TIER 3A - High Upside Centers:
C - Bol Bol - Oregon
C - Charles Bassey - Western Kentucky
C - Daniel Gafford - Arkansas
TIER 3B - High Upside Guards:
PG/SG - Quentin Grimes - Kansas
SG - Keldon Johnson - Kentucky
SG - Romeo Langford - Indiana
So of the 5 guys in the top 1-2 tiers, we'd hope 2-4 look like great-to-elite prospects.
Of the 3 elite center prospects, hopefully 1-2 look great, and the same with the 3 elite guards.
So we hopefully have 5-8 great-to-elite prospects in the mix with the Sacramento pick- with at least 1 elite center and 1 elite guard on the board even if we pick out of the top 5- and with up to 2-4 of these guys looking like studs in case the pick is #1-4.
http://www.nbadraftroom.com/p/2019-nba-mock-draft.html
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Nassar Little looks pretty legit. I'm not as high on Barrett, Reddish, Williamson, or Doumbouya. They all look like decent prospects, but not upper tier prospects.
I think people are sleeping on this Jaylen Hoard kid going to Wake Forest. He is a long athlete with long strides. He has a variety of really impressive finishing moves, like eurosteps, step-throughs, and finish-overs. In my initial arm-chair scouting, He is number two after Little on my board.
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I don't know much about Zion as a prospect, but this is impressive.
I believe he's 6'6" and over 250.
Dunking from the free throw line...
https://mobile.twitter.com/SBNation/status/1012450120095301632/video/1
That's pretty impressive. Looks like a thicker Jordan making it look easy.
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I don't know much about Zion as a prospect, but this is impressive.
I believe he's 6'6" and over 250.
Dunking from the free throw line...
https://mobile.twitter.com/SBNation/status/1012450120095301632/video/1
That's pretty impressive. Looks like a thicker Jordan making it look easy.
Yeah, Try 285 pounds as a freshman. It makes him the second current heaviest player in the NBA, behind the seven foot 3 ogre Boban.
Now that's only 15 pounds away from being 300 and you figure he's going to easily add weight he's only 19 It's just tough to see those knees holding up at 300 pounds but you never know he does look like a LeBron type clone.
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I don't know much about Zion as a prospect, but this is impressive.
I believe he's 6'6" and over 250.
Dunking from the free throw line...
https://mobile.twitter.com/SBNation/status/1012450120095301632/video/1
That's pretty impressive. Looks like a thicker Jordan making it look easy.
Yeah, Try 285 pounds as a freshman. It makes him the second current heaviest player in the NBA, behind the seven foot 3 ogre Boban.
Now that's only 15 pounds away from being 300 and you figure he's going to easily add weight he's only 19 It's just tough to see those knees holding up at 300 pounds but you never know he does look like a LeBron type clone.
I don't think he's that heavy, at least he doesn't look it in the videos I've seen. Maybe when he was a junior in HS but not now. Not sure why he's listed at 285.
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It's insane to think the Celtics could end up with 1 each of Nassir Little or Cam Reddish or Zion, AND Daniel Gafford, Bol Bol or Charles Bassey.
My Tankathon mock just came up Nassir Little at #3 and Daniel Gafford at #11. Uh, I'll take it.
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I don't know much about Zion as a prospect, but this is impressive.
I believe he's 6'6" and over 250.
Dunking from the free throw line...
https://mobile.twitter.com/SBNation/status/1012450120095301632/video/1
That's pretty impressive. Looks like a thicker Jordan making it look easy.
Yeah, Try 285 pounds as a freshman. It makes him the second current heaviest player in the NBA, behind the seven foot 3 ogre Boban.
Now that's only 15 pounds away from being 300 and you figure he's going to easily add weight he's only 19 It's just tough to see those knees holding up at 300 pounds but you never know he does look like a LeBron type clone.
I don't think he's that heavy, at least he doesn't look it in the videos I've seen. Maybe when he was a junior in HS but not now. Not sure why he's listed at 285.
Is he the second coming of Robert "Tractor" Traylor? Or even worst, Oliver Miller?
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It's insane to think the Celtics could end up with 1 each of Nassir Little or Cam Reddish or Zion, AND Daniel Gafford, Bol Bol or Charles Bassey.
My Tankathon mock just came up Nassir Little at #3 and Daniel Gafford at #11. Uh, I'll take it.
I'm not high on Bol Bol. Looks like he will just crumble under contact. Love Little. Like Reddish.
Gafford looks intriguing but foul-prone. Bassey need to see more but looks nice and big..
Also like Louis King..
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It's insane to think the Celtics could end up with 1 each of Nassir Little or Cam Reddish or Zion, AND Daniel Gafford, Bol Bol or Charles Bassey.
My Tankathon mock just came up Nassir Little at #3 and Daniel Gafford at #11. Uh, I'll take it.
I'm not high on Bol Bol. Looks like he will just crumble under contact. Love Little. Like Reddish.
Gafford looks intriguing but foul-prone. Bassey need to see more but looks nice and big..
Also like Louis King..
As long as at least 2 of those 3 bigs plus maybe Jontay Porter, so 2 of 4, turn out to be '5th starter on a great team' caliber players, we should be in good shape.
What do we think the chances of that are? 30-35% ?
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It's insane to think the Celtics could end up with 1 each of Nassir Little or Cam Reddish or Zion, AND Daniel Gafford, Bol Bol or Charles Bassey.
My Tankathon mock just came up Nassir Little at #3 and Daniel Gafford at #11. Uh, I'll take it.
I'm not high on Bol Bol. Looks like he will just crumble under contact. Love Little. Like Reddish.
Gafford looks intriguing but foul-prone. Bassey need to see more but looks nice and big..
Also like Louis King..
As long as at least 2 of those 3 bigs plus maybe Jontay Porter, so 2 of 4, turn out to be '5th starter on a great team' caliber players, we should be in good shape.
What do we think the chances of that are? 30-35% ?
Yeah we already have more or less Gafford on our roster in RW3 (they even played a big game vs each other this year). So I'm not sure I'd go in that direction. I'd draft a stud combo forward with the Sac pick and maybe Porter with the Grizz..
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It's insane to think the Celtics could end up with 1 each of Nassir Little or Cam Reddish or Zion, AND Daniel Gafford, Bol Bol or Charles Bassey.
My Tankathon mock just came up Nassir Little at #3 and Daniel Gafford at #11. Uh, I'll take it.
I'm not high on Bol Bol. Looks like he will just crumble under contact. Love Little. Like Reddish.
Gafford looks intriguing but foul-prone. Bassey need to see more but looks nice and big..
Also like Louis King..
As long as at least 2 of those 3 bigs plus maybe Jontay Porter, so 2 of 4, turn out to be '5th starter on a great team' caliber players, we should be in good shape.
What do we think the chances of that are? 30-35% ?
Yeah we already have more or less Gafford on our roster in RW3 (they even played a big game vs each other this year). So I'm not sure I'd go in that direction. I'd draft a stud combo forward with the Sac pick and maybe Porter with the Grizz..
Yeah, the Sac pick would ideally be a wing type player (Little, Reddish, Zion, Sekou, Langford, Grimes) and the Memphis pick a big man. For Gafford the logic is, if you draft him and he and RW3 are both 50/50 shots to become a Capella-level player, then you're likely to hit once.
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It's insane to think the Celtics could end up with 1 each of Nassir Little or Cam Reddish or Zion, AND Daniel Gafford, Bol Bol or Charles Bassey.
My Tankathon mock just came up Nassir Little at #3 and Daniel Gafford at #11. Uh, I'll take it.
I'm not high on Bol Bol. Looks like he will just crumble under contact. Love Little. Like Reddish.
Gafford looks intriguing but foul-prone. Bassey need to see more but looks nice and big..
Also like Louis King..
who would bol crumble against ? Nba is looking a lot less "muscular" and a lot more players like Ingram and kuzma. Bol hasn't crumbled against top of the line AAU players ... Not seeing him do so anytime soon
Motombo type players are becoming extinct
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It's insane to think the Celtics could end up with 1 each of Nassir Little or Cam Reddish or Zion, AND Daniel Gafford, Bol Bol or Charles Bassey.
My Tankathon mock just came up Nassir Little at #3 and Daniel Gafford at #11. Uh, I'll take it.
With 4 possible picks all over the first round, I'm already excited for the college season.
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It's insane to think the Celtics could end up with 1 each of Nassir Little or Cam Reddish or Zion, AND Daniel Gafford, Bol Bol or Charles Bassey.
My Tankathon mock just came up Nassir Little at #3 and Daniel Gafford at #11. Uh, I'll take it.
I'm not high on Bol Bol. Looks like he will just crumble under contact. Love Little. Like Reddish.
Gafford looks intriguing but foul-prone. Bassey need to see more but looks nice and big..
Also like Louis King..
who would bol crumble against ? Nba is looking a lot less "muscular" and a lot more players like Ingram and kuzma. Bol hasn't crumbled against top of the line AAU players ... Not seeing him do so anytime soon
Motombo type players are becoming extinct
I don’t know that Bol would crumble, but I think he is less mobile than Porzingis or Gobert, and so not a good fit with what we want to do.
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might trade lotto pick for another star
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What are the foreign players looking like? I think there is a high chance of a draft and stash if the C's end up with 3 or 4 picks. The roster is pretty stacked already and that's a lot of rookies on a playoff team with championship aspirations.
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What are the foreign players looking like? I think there is a high chance of a draft and stash if the C's end up with 3 or 4 picks. The roster is pretty stacked already and that's a lot of rookies on a playoff team with championship aspirations.
Maybe a late first. The lottery is too high to force a draft and stash, and too reminiscent of the Yabusele pick.
EDIT - Unlikely to get Clippers pick, if we get the Griz pick that’d be 3 firsts including our own.
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What are the foreign players looking like? I think there is a high chance of a draft and stash if the C's end up with 3 or 4 picks. The roster is pretty stacked already and that's a lot of rookies on a playoff team with championship aspirations.
Maybe a late first. The lottery is too high to force a draft and stash, and too reminiscent of the Yabusele pick.
Absolutely agree but just wondering what the foreign prospects look like this year.
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What are the foreign players looking like? I think there is a high chance of a draft and stash if the C's end up with 3 or 4 picks. The roster is pretty stacked already and that's a lot of rookies on a playoff team with championship aspirations.
Maybe a late first. The lottery is too high to force a draft and stash, and too reminiscent of the Yabusele pick.
Absolutely agree but just wondering what the foreign prospects look like this year.
Sekou is supposedly the best international prospect. French kid, big athletic. Competition not the best.
There is also the kid from Wake Forest from France, Hoard.
Then Samanic prob as a draft and stash. Big, long jump shooter..
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I don't know much about Zion as a prospect, but this is impressive.
I believe he's 6'6" and over 250.
Dunking from the free throw line...
https://mobile.twitter.com/SBNation/status/1012450120095301632/video/1
That's pretty impressive. Looks like a thicker Jordan making it look easy.
Yeah, Try 285 pounds as a freshman. It makes him the second current heaviest player in the NBA, behind the seven foot 3 ogre Boban.
Now that's only 15 pounds away from being 300 and you figure he's going to easily add weight he's only 19 It's just tough to see those knees holding up at 300 pounds but you never know he does look like a LeBron type clone.
I don't think he's that heavy, at least he doesn't look it in the videos I've seen. Maybe when he was a junior in HS but not now. Not sure why he's listed at 285.
Is he the second coming of Robert "Tractor" Traylor? Or even worst, Oliver Miller?
Not at all. He's built pretty good. Unless he eats him self out of the league (I just don't see a Hot Plate Williams in this kid) he's going to be a more athletic GranMaMa. How many players can dunk from the free throw line with ease and hit their head on the rim? He's a very intriguing prospect. Very.
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I saw the comment at the bottom of post, on nbadraft.net, about Charles Bassey, who was born in Nigeria.
For those not familiar with Bassey, he reclassified to attend Western Kentucky this fall and will likely be a top 15-20 pick (I think he will actually be a lottery pick). Does this concern anyone else? He could be 2 years older than listed. Wasn't there the same issue with Thon Maker and is there anyone else recently that had the same question about ones age?
"Some questions linger in the scouting community about his listed age ... "
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Zion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBWFofJSm-c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBWFofJSm-c)
Could not resist
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I saw the comment at the bottom of post, on nbadraft.net, about Charles Bassey, who was born in Nigeria.
For those not familiar with Bassey, he reclassified to attend Western Kentucky this fall and will likely be a top 15-20 pick (I think he will actually be a lottery pick). Does this concern anyone else? He could be 2 years older than listed. Wasn't there the same issue with Thon Maker and is there anyone else recently that had the same question about ones age?
"Some questions linger in the scouting community about his listed age ... "
I actually really like Bassey and think he's way too low ranked right now on mocks. If he can show a jumper and some handle this year he should easily be top 10 maybe top 5.
The age thing is weird but common among African prospects. Doesn't mean his age is wrong, just every African prospect has to deal with those questions..
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nbadraft.net has updated their mock from early June.
http://www.nbadraft.net/2019mock_draft
In their original mock they had Cam Reddish too low (out of the top 5), Rui Hachimura in the top 8 or so and Charles Bassey, who may very well end up a lottery pick, not even on the list. I emailed them to voice my displeasure. Maybe they do read the comments.
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nbadraft.net has updated their mock from early June.
http://www.nbadraft.net/2019mock_draft
In their original mock they had Cam Reddish too low (out of the top 5), Rui Hachimura in the top 8 or so and Charles Bassey, who may very well end up a lottery pick, not even on the list. I emailed them to voice my displeasure. Maybe they do read the comments.
Must have been before Bassey reclassified. I don't think they update frequently.
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nbadraft.net has updated their mock from early June.
http://www.nbadraft.net/2019mock_draft
In their original mock they had Cam Reddish too low (out of the top 5), Rui Hachimura in the top 8 or so and Charles Bassey, who may very well end up a lottery pick, not even on the list. I emailed them to voice my displeasure. Maybe they do read the comments.
Must have been before Bassey reclassified. I don't think they update frequently.
It was definitely posted before Bassey reclassified. There still wasn't a reason to have Hachimura (was like 4th or 5th) ahead of Reddish (I think he was 6th or 7th) on their June mock draft. That is absurd. Rui is good on defense but his offensive game lacks right now and he's a junior this year so his upside isn't all that great even though he started playing ball later than some. He'll be a more focal point this year so we shall see if additional minutes and touches improves his offensive efficiency.
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nbadraft.net has updated their mock from early June.
http://www.nbadraft.net/2019mock_draft
In their original mock they had Cam Reddish too low (out of the top 5), Rui Hachimura in the top 8 or so and Charles Bassey, who may very well end up a lottery pick, not even on the list. I emailed them to voice my displeasure. Maybe they do read the comments.
Must have been before Bassey reclassified. I don't think they update frequently.
It was definitely posted before Bassey reclassified. There still wasn't a reason to have Hachimura (was like 4th or 5th) ahead of Reddish (I think he was 6th or 7th) on their June mock draft. That is absurd. Rui is good on defense but his offensive game lacks right now and he's a junior this year so his upside isn't all that great even though he started playing ball later than some. He'll be a more focal point this year so we shall see if additional minutes and touches improves his offensive efficiency.
Yeah that mock was abysmal. Now they have a much more realistic one where Reddish goes 2 and Bassey goes 11. Little seems low though. Rui at 12 seems about right.
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nbadraft.net has updated their mock from early June.
http://www.nbadraft.net/2019mock_draft
In their original mock they had Cam Reddish too low (out of the top 5), Rui Hachimura in the top 8 or so and Charles Bassey, who may very well end up a lottery pick, not even on the list. I emailed them to voice my displeasure. Maybe they do read the comments.
Must have been before Bassey reclassified. I don't think they update frequently.
It was definitely posted before Bassey reclassified. There still wasn't a reason to have Hachimura (was like 4th or 5th) ahead of Reddish (I think he was 6th or 7th) on their June mock draft. That is absurd. Rui is good on defense but his offensive game lacks right now and he's a junior this year so his upside isn't all that great even though he started playing ball later than some. He'll be a more focal point this year so we shall see if additional minutes and touches improves his offensive efficiency.
Yeah that mock was abysmal. Now they have a much more realistic one where Reddish goes 2 and Bassey goes 11. Little seems low though. Rui at 12 seems about right.
The most important point is that the Kings are picking too late! (Yes, I know it's based on last year's standings.)
Also, Sekou Doumbouya seems too high at 3- I really liked him based on his awesome physical talent, but his recent international performances have been duds. I'm hoping he proves me wrong, because if he could really make the most of his abilities, he'd be a great fit for the Cs. Bigger, stronger R Will with better handles. But he only picked up a ball at 12, has trouble seeing the game sometimes, and just doesn't show out on bigger stages. I don't think he's 18 yet, so maybe he just needs time and coaching, but putting him at 3? I think even for a draft site that putting potential too far ahead of achievement.
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nbadraft.net has updated their mock from early June.
http://www.nbadraft.net/2019mock_draft
In their original mock they had Cam Reddish too low (out of the top 5), Rui Hachimura in the top 8 or so and Charles Bassey, who may very well end up a lottery pick, not even on the list. I emailed them to voice my displeasure. Maybe they do read the comments.
Must have been before Bassey reclassified. I don't think they update frequently.
It was definitely posted before Bassey reclassified. There still wasn't a reason to have Hachimura (was like 4th or 5th) ahead of Reddish (I think he was 6th or 7th) on their June mock draft. That is absurd. Rui is good on defense but his offensive game lacks right now and he's a junior this year so his upside isn't all that great even though he started playing ball later than some. He'll be a more focal point this year so we shall see if additional minutes and touches improves his offensive efficiency.
Yeah that mock was abysmal. Now they have a much more realistic one where Reddish goes 2 and Bassey goes 11. Little seems low though. Rui at 12 seems about right.
The most important point is that the Kings are picking too late! (Yes, I know it's based on last year's standings.)
Also, Sekou Doumbouya seems too high at 3- I really liked him based on his awesome physical talent, but his recent international performances have been duds. I'm hoping he proves me wrong, because if he could really make the most of his abilities, he'd be a great fit for the Cs. Bigger, stronger R Will with better handles. But he only picked up a ball at 12, has trouble seeing the game sometimes, and just doesn't show out on bigger stages. I don't think he's 18 yet, so maybe he just needs time and coaching, but putting him at 3? I think even for a draft site that putting potential too far ahead of achievement.
I was disappointed by Sekou deciding to stay in essentially the French minor leagues. That's not the way to impress teams looking for that next international star. You have Doncic out there leading at the highest level not the NBA and Sekou playing with scrubs in irrelevant gyms across France. I could see him dropping out of the top 5 even 10 with a so-so year.
Glad to see they are starting to drop Bol Bol. No motor whatsoever..
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Nassar Little looks pretty legit. I'm not as high on Barrett, Reddish, Williamson, or Doumbouya. They all look like decent prospects, but not upper tier prospects.
I think people are sleeping on this Jaylen Hoard kid going to Wake Forest. He is a long athlete with long strides. He has a variety of really impressive finishing moves, like eurosteps, step-throughs, and finish-overs. In my initial arm-chair scouting, He is number two after Little on my board.
Wow. Good pickup. He handles like a 6"2 point guard. TP.
Maybe his biggest knock is a very slight lack of explosiveness..
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Just saw today Bazley is not going G-league and will just train the year. Would have been an interesting guy/story to follow.
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Zion Williams highlights from yesterday.
https://mobile.twitter.com/FrankieVision/status/1054906150137856003
The guy's a beast.
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Zion Williams highlights from yesterday.
https://mobile.twitter.com/FrankieVision/status/1054906150137856003
The guy's a beast.
Can't wait to see him against real competition. He was open way too often and nobody was boxing him out, not that I blame them. He looks really good....in scrimmages.
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Zion Williams highlights from yesterday.
https://mobile.twitter.com/FrankieVision/status/1054906150137856003
The guy's a beast.
Can't wait to see him against real competition. He was open way too often and nobody was boxing him out, not that I blame them. He looks really good....in scrimmages.
I just checked Duke's schedule. Their first game is Nov 6 against Kentucky on ESPN. 10 of their first 11 games are on ESPN or ESPN2. Duke is a must watch this year with Barrett, Reddish, Zion, and Tre Jones.
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Zion Williams highlights from yesterday.
https://mobile.twitter.com/FrankieVision/status/1054906150137856003
The guy's a beast.
Can't wait to see him against real competition. He was open way too often and nobody was boxing him out, not that I blame them. He looks really good....in scrimmages.
I just checked Duke's schedule. Their first game is Nov 6 against Kentucky on ESPN. 10 of their first 11 games are on ESPN or ESPN2. Duke is a must watch this year with Barrett, Reddish, Zion, and Tre Jones.
I wonder how close this Duke team would come to beating an actual NBA team. I don't see one that is bad enough this year. Maybe Brooklyn from a couple of years ago would have close.
I don't actually think they would, what with missing a big man and not having a deep bench, but they do have 4 lottery picks (3 top 5 guys) on that team. Should be fun to watch.
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Is Zion Williamson a center in today's NBA?
An undersized center in the mold of a Dave Cowens or Willis Reed. Is Zion capable of that?
He looks to have the build and strength to defend players bigger than him. I think he would be very difficult for players to back down in the post. I am impressed by how mobile he is defensively in covering PnR and switches. He would do very well in that area in the NBA. The downside would be the lack of shot-blocking. Zion wouldn't offer much. His athleticism looks like it can get him some weakside blocks but less intimidating when meeting players head on (like Hibbert used to I mean). Then again, guys like Tristan Thompson do not offer much shot-blocking either and he has started at center with reasonable success.
Zion would be incredibly difficult for opposing centers to defend against with his quickness and athleticism. The way he can move from inside to outside and back again. So mobile. He would be lethal with that first step of his. Attack smaller players in switches off the PnR in the post. A lot of offensive opportunities for Zion at the center position.
In the 90s, he would've been a PF like Larry Johnson or Charles Barkley ... but in today's league, can Zion Williamson do enough defensively to successfully play as an undersized center?
I am not sold on him as a PF without more of a jump-shot. I think his NBA future is more as a 5.
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Anyone have a good mock draft site?
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Way to early
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Anyone have a good mock draft site?
NBA Draft Net is good
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Anyone have a good mock draft site?
I really miss Draft Express.
Bleacher Report does a decent job with a nice description of each player.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2799699-2019-nba-mock-draft-way-too-soon-1st-round-draft-predictions
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Anyone have a good mock draft site?
I really miss Draft Express.
Bleacher Report does a decent job with a nice description of each player.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2799699-2019-nba-mock-draft-way-too-soon-1st-round-draft-predictions
I miss Draft Express as well. I will check out the Blecherreport draft....
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Anyone have a good mock draft site?
NBA Draft Net is good
Draft Net is useful but the profiles are less than stellar.
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Anyone have a good mock draft site?
http://www.nbadraftroom.com/p/2019-nba-mock-draft.html
https://www.thestepien.com/2019-draft-rankings/
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Anyone have a good mock draft site?
http://www.nbadraftroom.com/p/2019-nba-mock-draft.html
https://www.thestepien.com/2019-draft-rankings/
THX!
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Is Zion Williamson a center in today's NBA?
An undersized center in the mold of a Dave Cowens or Willis Reed. Is Zion capable of that?
He looks to have the build and strength to defend players bigger than him. I think he would be very difficult for players to back down in the post. I am impressed by how mobile he is defensively in covering PnR and switches. He would do very well in that area in the NBA. The downside would be the lack of shot-blocking. Zion wouldn't offer much. His athleticism looks like it can get him some weakside blocks but less intimidating when meeting players head on (like Hibbert used to I mean). Then again, guys like Tristan Thompson do not offer much shot-blocking either and he has started at center with reasonable success.
Zion would be incredibly difficult for opposing centers to defend against with his quickness and athleticism. The way he can move from inside to outside and back again. So mobile. He would be lethal with that first step of his. Attack smaller players in switches off the PnR in the post. A lot of offensive opportunities for Zion at the center position.
In the 90s, he would've been a PF like Larry Johnson or Charles Barkley ... but in today's league, can Zion Williamson do enough defensively to successfully play as an undersized center?
I am not sold on him as a PF without more of a jump-shot. I think his NBA future is more as a 5.
My concern with Zion is that he is listed as 6’7”and 285 pounds. That is a LOT of weight to carry around. Will his knees hold up?
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Jaxson Hayes, anyone? This is the first I've heard of him.
https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/high-school/ohio-high-school/2018/11/02/jaxson-hayes-fran-fraschilla-praises-texas-long-term-nba-prospect/1857833002/?src=rss
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Jaxson Hayes, anyone? This is the first I've heard of him.
https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/high-school/ohio-high-school/2018/11/02/jaxson-hayes-fran-fraschilla-praises-texas-long-term-nba-prospect/1857833002/?src=rss
I don't know what he's smoking. This guy is so raw right now he's not even on the radar but I haven't seen him. He'll probably get playing time due to lack of depth. We shall see.
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Jaxson Hayes, anyone? This is the first I've heard of him.
https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/high-school/ohio-high-school/2018/11/02/jaxson-hayes-fran-fraschilla-praises-texas-long-term-nba-prospect/1857833002/?src=rss
I don't know what he's smoking. This guy is so raw right now he's not even on the radar but I haven't seen him. He'll probably get playing time due to lack of depth. We shall see.
I hadn't heard of him before, TP. Rivals had him as the 112th best prospect overall and 8th best center of his class. He must have improved quite a bit or Fraschilla is seeing things. It'll be interesting to see how he does.
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Jaxson Hayes, anyone? This is the first I've heard of him.
https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/high-school/ohio-high-school/2018/11/02/jaxson-hayes-fran-fraschilla-praises-texas-long-term-nba-prospect/1857833002/?src=rss
I don't know what he's smoking. This guy is so raw right now he's not even on the radar but I haven't seen him. He'll probably get playing time due to lack of depth. We shall see.
I hadn't heard of him before, TP. Rivals had him as the 112th best prospect overall and 8th best center of his class. He must have improved quite a bit or Fraschilla is seeing things. It'll be interesting to see how he does.
Ok, maybe he is on the radar.
That Texas team is bad right now though and him being a big man without a good back-court I think he struggles.
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Is Zion Williamson a center in today's NBA?
An undersized center in the mold of a Dave Cowens or Willis Reed. Is Zion capable of that?
He looks to have the build and strength to defend players bigger than him. I think he would be very difficult for players to back down in the post. I am impressed by how mobile he is defensively in covering PnR and switches. He would do very well in that area in the NBA. The downside would be the lack of shot-blocking. Zion wouldn't offer much. His athleticism looks like it can get him some weakside blocks but less intimidating when meeting players head on (like Hibbert used to I mean). Then again, guys like Tristan Thompson do not offer much shot-blocking either and he has started at center with reasonable success.
Zion would be incredibly difficult for opposing centers to defend against with his quickness and athleticism. The way he can move from inside to outside and back again. So mobile. He would be lethal with that first step of his. Attack smaller players in switches off the PnR in the post. A lot of offensive opportunities for Zion at the center position.
In the 90s, he would've been a PF like Larry Johnson or Charles Barkley ... but in today's league, can Zion Williamson do enough defensively to successfully play as an undersized center?
I am not sold on him as a PF without more of a jump-shot. I think his NBA future is more as a 5.
My concern with Zion is that he is listed as 6’7”and 285 pounds. That is a LOT of weight to carry around. Will his knees hold up?
If we lose Morris, Theis, and Baynes all to free agency - I think Zion could come in and play a ton. He and Yabu would be some serious muscle off the bench.
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Akok Akok anyone? This is the first I've heard of him.
https://247sports.com/college/basketball/recruiting/Article/Five-star-forward-Akok-Akok-considering-bypassing-college-for-NBA-Draft-124739645/
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Akok Akok anyone? This is the first I've heard of him.
https://247sports.com/college/basketball/recruiting/Article/Five-star-forward-Akok-Akok-considering-bypassing-college-for-NBA-Draft-124739645/
His three point shooting combined with size will help us feel better about missing out on Zion.
I hope when he tries to block Zion at the rim he doesn't break into a million pieces.. :o >:( :P
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Akok Akok anyone? This is the first I've heard of him.
https://247sports.com/college/basketball/recruiting/Article/Five-star-forward-Akok-Akok-considering-bypassing-college-for-NBA-Draft-124739645/
That's just begging for a joke, but probably inappropriate for this website.
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Akok Akok anyone? This is the first I've heard of him.
https://247sports.com/college/basketball/recruiting/Article/Five-star-forward-Akok-Akok-considering-bypassing-college-for-NBA-Draft-124739645/
That's just begging for a joke, but probably inappropriate for this website.
Okay here's an appropriate joke. From the department of redundancy department.
Bol Bol or Akok Akok?
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Akok Akok anyone? This is the first I've heard of him.
https://247sports.com/college/basketball/recruiting/Article/Five-star-forward-Akok-Akok-considering-bypassing-college-for-NBA-Draft-124739645/
That's just begging for a joke, but probably inappropriate for this website.
Yep, I'm cracking up though.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvZAy93sZPI
Mike
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvZAy93sZPI
Mike
Is that you Samuel Jameson Packard?
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So I thought Gonzaga was going to be the team to beat this year. They lost Tillie for the year but still have a couple of good prospects (Hachimura, who's played well so far and a freak of an athlete named Brandon Clarke). Check out the Clarke block at 40:45 of the video. He didn't see much time in the first half but in the second was a beast. 5 blocks and 4-4 shooting for the game. He really is a freak of athlete.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzjLDjp-wEY
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So I thought Gonzaga was going to be the team to beat this year. They lost Tillie for the year but still have a couple of good prospects (Hachimura, who's played well so far and a freak of an athlete named Brandon Clarke). Check out the Clarke block at 40:45 of the video. He didn't see much time in the first half but in the second was a beast. 5 blocks and 4-4 shooting for the game. He really is a freak of athlete.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzjLDjp-wEY
Another impressive showing for Brandon Clarke:
18 pts on 8-9 FGA. 4 boards and 4 blocks and 4 PF. Someone to keep an eye on, with one of our mid-first rounder, once conference play starts.
Rui Hachimura, who I always thought was a bit overrated to the point where I had to email nbdraft.net and complain when they had him mocked in the top 5, has been playing great. Someone else to keep an eye on for our lottery pick.
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So I thought Gonzaga was going to be the team to beat this year. They lost Tillie for the year but still have a couple of good prospects (Hachimura, who's played well so far and a freak of an athlete named Brandon Clarke). Check out the Clarke block at 40:45 of the video. He didn't see much time in the first half but in the second was a beast. 5 blocks and 4-4 shooting for the game. He really is a freak of athlete.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzjLDjp-wEY
Another impressive showing for Brandon Clarke:
18 pts on 8-9 FGA. 4 boards and 4 blocks and 4 PF. Someone to keep an eye on, with one of our mid-first rounder, once conference play starts.
Rui Hachimura, who I always thought was a bit overrated to the point where I had to email nbdraft.net and complain when they had him mocked in the top 5, has been playing great. Someone else to keep an eye on for our lottery pick.
If anyone saw the Duke/Gonzaga game now knows this Clarke kid is now surely on the radar.
17 pts, 5 rb, 6 blks! Zion overpowered him a few times down low but he can do that to a lot of NBA guys as well. He needs a jump shot but he has a spot in the nba waiting for him.
Too bad the Zags lost Killian Tillie for the year or else that team would be unbeatable, at least until tourney time.
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Mandatory info:
ex-Celtic Stojko Vranković's son, Antonio plays for Duke
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/v/vrankst01.html
Antonio's numbers are like his fathers in the NBA, very modest.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/3913177/antonio-vrankovic
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Jordan Ray. Another guy I've never heard of.
http://amicohoops.net/exclusive-ray-says-he-will-declare-for-2019-nba-draft/
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Jordan Ray. Another guy I've never heard of.
http://amicohoops.net/exclusive-ray-says-he-will-declare-for-2019-nba-draft/
he certainly does not lack for confidence or self-promotion. i guess being with the ball clan has rubbed off on him. :-\
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Jordan Ray. Another guy I've never heard of.
http://amicohoops.net/exclusive-ray-says-he-will-declare-for-2019-nba-draft/
he certainly does not lack for confidence or self-promotion. i guess being with the ball clan has rubbed off on him. :-\
From the article:
“I don’t see any guards capable of what I’m doing at my size as in putting up points and assists,” Ray said. “I believe I’m a lottery pick.”
Ja Morant and, to a slightly lesser degree, Shamorie Ponds say HI!
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Mandatory info:
ex-Celtic Stojko Vranković's son, Antonio plays for Duke
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/v/vrankst01.html
Antonio's numbers are like his fathers in the NBA, very modest.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/3913177/antonio-vrankovic
Stojko!!!
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https://www.si.com/nba/2018/11/27/nba-draft-2019-luguentz-dort-jaxson-hayes-ignas-brazdeikis-texas-michi
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I think all our picks are going to be packaged in a deal.
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https://www.si.com/nba/2018/12/05/2019-nba-draft-big-board-duke-zion-williamson-rj-barrett-cam-reddish-unc-nassir-little?utm_campaign=si-extra&utm_source=si.com&utm_medium=email&utm_content=2018120512PM&eminfo=%7b%22EMAIL%22%3a%22ahqqpfETguW%2bEYyoW3JbJgsTP4%2bfiUil%22%2c%22BRAND%22%3a%22SI%22%2c%22CONTENT%22%3a%22Newsletter%22%2c%22UID%22%3a%22SI_EXT_8187ED37-A65B-4E34-802C-5021461B6295%22%2c%22SUBID%22%3a%2298941435%22%2c%22JOBID%22%3a%22926007%22%2c%22NEWSLETTER%22%3a%22SI_EXTRA%22%2c%22ZIP%22%3a%22%22%2c%22COUNTRY%22%3a%22CAN%22%7d
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https://www.si.com/nba/2018/12/05/2019-nba-draft-big-board-duke-zion-williamson-rj-barrett-cam-reddish-unc-nassir-little?utm_campaign=si-extra&utm_source=si.com&utm_medium=email&utm_content=2018120512PM&eminfo=%7b%22EMAIL%22%3a%22ahqqpfETguW%2bEYyoW3JbJgsTP4%2bfiUil%22%2c%22BRAND%22%3a%22SI%22%2c%22CONTENT%22%3a%22Newsletter%22%2c%22UID%22%3a%22SI_EXT_8187ED37-A65B-4E34-802C-5021461B6295%22%2c%22SUBID%22%3a%2298941435%22%2c%22JOBID%22%3a%22926007%22%2c%22NEWSLETTER%22%3a%22SI_EXTRA%22%2c%22ZIP%22%3a%22%22%2c%22COUNTRY%22%3a%22CAN%22%7d
Thanks for post. Nice, clear, down to earth, realistic, not overly fan boy mock...
TP
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If people had to pick right now between Rui Hachimura and Bol Bol as the future big man compliment to Robert Williams III, who ya got?
IMO it's a very clear cut case of Floor vs Ceiling. Rui is the rock solid Sophmore who is fairley close to a cant miss rotation contributor. Bol Bol has flashes of the highest levels of skill and production but can tend to float at times.
I think that I would take Hachimura over Bol as a more rock solid compliment to RWIII but I could also imagine a world where 7 years down the road, that statement would be laughable.
Who ya got?
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I think all our picks are going to be packaged in a deal.
Its not always easy. Didn’t a lot of us think that the year we drafted Zizic and Yabu? It would make the most sense though.
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Right now with the morning coffee in my veins....a draft that would excite me is as follows:
with the Sacramento or Grizzlies pick: Ja Morant, possible Rozier replacer. He's smooth!
paired with one of the following: Little, Hachimura, Doumbouya.. PF shore up
Clippers or Celtics pick: KZ Okpala (potential.... no need to play next year)
Final pick: Stash Samanic
So Morant, a PF from above, Okpala and stash of Samanic
stick with Brown and Smart as SG's...
Center we have Baynes and Williams.
Would also be ok with backup (or future) center help instead of Samanic. Gafford or Bruno Fernando....
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If people had to pick right now between Rui Hachimura and Bol Bol as the future big man compliment to Robert Williams III, who ya got?
IMO it's a very clear cut case of Floor vs Ceiling. Rui is the rock solid Sophmore who is fairley close to a cant miss rotation contributor. Bol Bol has flashes of the highest levels of skill and production but can tend to float at times.
I think that I would take Hachimura over Bol as a more rock solid compliment to RWIII but I could also imagine a world where 7 years down the road, that statement would be laughable.
Who ya got?
Tough call! at this point I too would take the safer Hachimura. Let's see if Bol Bol turn himself into an obvious top tier pick as the season progresses...
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I think all our picks are going to be packaged in a deal.
Its not always easy. Didn’t a lot of us think that the year we drafted Zizic and Yabu? It would make the most sense though.
Agree. Right now, we've got 14, 20, 22 and 26, thus hurting my dream of four consecutive picks.
In a regular draft, I don't know what that gets us, but this one doesn't look like it will even be average.* #14 is somewhat desirable. The other three are guaranteed contracts for players who will likely be rotation players at best. If anything, I would expect the Cs to try and move back, if anything.
Mike
*Note: As we all know, the draft will get hyped up right before it occurs. There's still not much there.
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Jaxson Hayes, anyone? This is the first I've heard of him.
https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/high-school/ohio-high-school/2018/11/02/jaxson-hayes-fran-fraschilla-praises-texas-long-term-nba-prospect/1857833002/?src=rss
I don't know what he's smoking. This guy is so raw right now he's not even on the radar but I haven't seen him. He'll probably get playing time due to lack of depth. We shall see.
I hadn't heard of him before, TP. Rivals had him as the 112th best prospect overall and 8th best center of his class. He must have improved quite a bit or Fraschilla is seeing things. It'll be interesting to see how he does.
Ok, maybe he is on the radar.
That Texas team is bad right now though and him being a big man without a good back-court I think he struggles.
I have yet to see him play but here is a youtube of him.
He looks like a lesser version of Time Lord. Not as explosive off the floor and his offensive game consists of dunks and layups (that they have in common). It's still early and I'm sure I'll get to see him play but just wanted to see his game since the Fraschilla comments.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXxPFr7CTis
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Right now, our picks are 13 (MEM), 18 (SAC), 22 (LAC) and 23 (BOS).
The thing about the MEM and SAC picks though... if each team was just 2 games worse than what they are now, then the MEM pick is likely 9-10, and SAC pick in the 11-13 range. It's been a wild year all around and we're just going to have to hope a bit of luck falls our way.
We're not getting a Top-5 pick this year but I'm not losing out hope that we could still land 2 lottery picks (hopefully 1 of them being in the Top-10 even if it's in the 7-10 range). The MEM Pick is Top-8 protected, keep in mind.
Meanwhile we should hope LAC remains in the playoff picture and it conveys in the 15-20 range, otherwise it becomes mere future 2nd rounders (meh).
And us... well I could care less if it's the last pick of the first round obviously ;)
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Right now, our picks are 13 (MEM), 18 (SAC), 22 (LAC) and 23 (BOS).
The thing about the MEM and SAC picks though... if each team was just 2 games worse than what they are now, then the MEM pick is likely 9-10, and SAC pick in the 11-13 range. It's been a wild year all around and we're just going to have to hope a bit of luck falls our way.
We're not getting a Top-5 pick this year but I'm not losing out hope that we could still land 2 lottery picks (hopefully 1 of them being in the Top-10 even if it's in the 7-10 range). The MEM Pick is Top-8 protected, keep in mind.
Meanwhile we should hope LAC remains in the playoff picture and it conveys in the 15-20 range, otherwise it becomes mere future 2nd rounders (meh).
And us... well I could care less if it's the last pick of the first round obviously ;)
The LAC rolls over to next year if they don't make playoffs this year and becomes a 2nd rounder in 2020 if the Clippers don't make playoffs next year.
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Right now, our picks are 13 (MEM), 18 (SAC), 22 (LAC) and 23 (BOS).
The thing about the MEM and SAC picks though... if each team was just 2 games worse than what they are now, then the MEM pick is likely 9-10, and SAC pick in the 11-13 range. It's been a wild year all around and we're just going to have to hope a bit of luck falls our way.
We're not getting a Top-5 pick this year but I'm not losing out hope that we could still land 2 lottery picks (hopefully 1 of them being in the Top-10 even if it's in the 7-10 range). The MEM Pick is Top-8 protected, keep in mind.
Meanwhile we should hope LAC remains in the playoff picture and it conveys in the 15-20 range, otherwise it becomes mere future 2nd rounders (meh).
And us... well I could care less if it's the last pick of the first round obviously ;)
The LAC rolls over to next year if they don't make playoffs this year and becomes a 2nd rounder in 2020 if the Clippers don't make playoffs next year.
Oh dang I guess I missed that part. TP and thanks! ;D
Right now, MEM pick is 13, SAC 14, LAC 21, and BOS 22.
Trending upwards! ;D
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Here's a pretty good set of rankings and evaluations of the prospects from SI.
https://www.si.com/nba/2019/01/03/2019-nba-draft-big-board-duke-zion-williamson-rj-barrett-ja-morant-top-80-rankings
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KZ Okpala from Stanford looks like a really good wing prospect ... 6'9'' with a 7'2'' wingspan ... Skinny, but with a really good frame to add muscle to ... high level athleticism, not a freak, but would be a good NBA athlete ... good finisher ... good shooter with a consistent stroke.
I'd like to see him use his length on defense and rebounding more, but he is not bad.
I think with an open floor, Okpala could be really dynamic as a scorer.
Comparable player upside: Kyle Kuzma, Thaddeus Young, Trevor Ariza, Pascal Siakim, Rudy Gay
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I also really like Jarrett Culver ... big body for a guard ... wide shoulders ... good athleticism and excellent body control ... consistent jumpshot ... good ball-handler and creator for others ... high efficiency ... good at drawing fouls.
Obviously he has to continue his upward trajectory. If his development stalls, he won't be more than an g-leaguer. But I could see him capping out as an all-star in the NBA.
NBA comparables: Jimmy Butler, Justice Winslow, Josh Richardson, Wes Matthews, Tyreke Evans
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I also really like Jarrett Culver ... big body for a guard ... wide shoulders ... good athleticism and excellent body control ... consistent jumpshot ... good ball-handler and creator for others ... high efficiency ... good at drawing fouls.
Obviously he has to continue his upward trajectory. If his development stalls, he won't be more than an g-leaguer. But I could see him capping out as an all-star in the NBA.
NBA comparables: Jimmy Butler, Justice Winslow, Josh Richardson, Wes Matthews, Tyreke Evans
Heard Sam Vecenie on a podcast about the draft class. He has Culver rated highly. He doesn't think he has top level upside but expects that he'd be starting by his 2nd season.
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I also really like Jarrett Culver ... big body for a guard ... wide shoulders ... good athleticism and excellent body control ... consistent jumpshot ... good ball-handler and creator for others ... high efficiency ... good at drawing fouls.
Obviously he has to continue his upward trajectory. If his development stalls, he won't be more than an g-leaguer. But I could see him capping out as an all-star in the NBA.
NBA comparables: Jimmy Butler, Justice Winslow, Josh Richardson, Wes Matthews, Tyreke Evans
Heard Sam Vecenie on a podcast about the draft class. He has Culver rated highly. He doesn't think he has top level upside but expects that he'd be starting by his 2nd season.
Especially when you consider the growth from last year to this you, you could see his trajectory being pretty high.
I look at his upside more like Jimmy Butler or Brandon Roy than Kevin Durant or Lebron James or James Harden, but still, I could see him getting a few all-star seasons during his career.
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I also really like Jarrett Culver ... big body for a guard ... wide shoulders ... good athleticism and excellent body control ... consistent jumpshot ... good ball-handler and creator for others ... high efficiency ... good at drawing fouls.
Obviously he has to continue his upward trajectory. If his development stalls, he won't be more than an g-leaguer. But I could see him capping out as an all-star in the NBA.
NBA comparables: Jimmy Butler, Justice Winslow, Josh Richardson, Wes Matthews, Tyreke Evans
Heard Sam Vecenie on a podcast about the draft class. He has Culver rated highly. He doesn't think he has top level upside but expects that he'd be starting by his 2nd season.
Especially when you consider the growth from last year to this you, you could see his trajectory being pretty high.
I look at his upside more like Jimmy Butler or Brandon Roy than Kevin Durant or Lebron James or James Harden, but still, I could see him getting a few all-star seasons during his career.
I'm starting to really like this draft
The first 20-22 picks will all be mostly solid names, a lot of players that have decent but limited upside but still very talented players.
I also like okpala and culver. If we could get one of them that would be great
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Very impressed by Darius Garland.
I love the way he can change speeds and freeze defenders. He does basic dribbling so well as well as more advanced moves. He looks like he'll be able to get wherever he wants to go on the court in the NBA and do so whenever he wants.
He can shoot, has a midrange game, floaters and can get to the rim. Good passer. A total offensive package enabled by his superb ball-handling.
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Very impressed by Darius Garland.
I love the way he can change speeds and freeze defenders. He does basic dribbling so well as well as more advanced moves. He looks like he'll be able to get wherever he wants to go on the court in the NBA and do so whenever he wants.
He can shoot, has a midrange game, floaters and can get to the rim. Good passer. A total offensive package enabled by his superb ball-handling.
I haven't followed every potential lottery pick closely, but Garland seems a lot more in control than a couple of other highly valued guards. But Garland is probably going to be picked higher than our Kings pick and I still expect that all our draft picks go out the door for Davis, so I'm not really watching for players that could help the Celtics.
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Am I the only one who's really happy with where our draft picks are landing?
The 2019 draft is id say picks 3-5 are sub-par, but 6-10 is actually pretty good, and the true value is in the 14-25 range. There will be mid to late first round gems, and we have 2-3 shots at that "value tier". I read a lot of comments online and am seeing this consensus start to develop
As for SGs, this is EASILY a better SG class than 2017. Barrett, Porter Jr., Johnson, Herro, Langford, Culver, Alexander-Walker, etc. It dwarfs the '17 SG class who's best prospect was Malik fricking Monk (even though I had Mitchell as the best SG, most had Monk).
At SF you had Tatum and Jackson and not much else after that. Tatum had his issues defensively and Jackson had his issues offensively. This SF class is infinitely deeper: Hunter, Little, Reddish, Horton-Tucker, King, Okpala, etc. Tatum is the best prospect here, but you can make an argument the next few are from this class.
PF/C is easily this class. '17 had Markannen (who A LOT of people didn't even like) and Zach Collins (who wasn't even a starter at Gonzaga)...meanwhile you have Zion, Grant Williams, Sekou, Porter, Hayes, Bol, Fernando, etc. in this class.
I think a strong argument can be made that 19 > 17 pretty comfortably in terms of depth. This draft class is being slept on.
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RJ Barrett scored or assisted on 48 of Duke's 75 points versus Syracuse. Almost 2/3rds of Duke's points.
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Amir Hinton first I've heard of him
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26170877/div-ii-player-hinton-declares-nba-draft
http://www.professionalbasketballcombine.com/news/early-entrant-outlook-dii-special-daulton-hommes-amir-hinton
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I really like this Rui Hachimura kid.
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RJ Barrett scored or assisted on 48 of Duke's 75 points versus Syracuse. Almost 2/3rds of Duke's points.
Barret is a stud
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Amir Hinton first I've heard of him
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26170877/div-ii-player-hinton-declares-nba-draft
http://www.professionalbasketballcombine.com/news/early-entrant-outlook-dii-special-daulton-hommes-amir-hinton
Hr dominates the ball, like James Harden does.
But he has a good form on his jumper, solid shooting stroke with range, very tight handle, pretty good court awareness.
Not overly athletic, and playing against subpar talent, but is very craft and heady player.
He is intriguing, and will probably get drafted, but I dont see a top 20 player here.
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https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/2019-nba-draft-top-100-big-board-a-look-at-the-biggest-risers-and-fallers-after-the-declaration-deadline/
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I really like this Rui Hachimura kid.
it s a Slicer , no a Dicer , a Chopper , nooo....its Hach mura -matic
wait ! order now and recieve a second Hachi FREE ! ;D
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Amir Hinton first I've heard of him
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26170877/div-ii-player-hinton-declares-nba-draft
http://www.professionalbasketballcombine.com/news/early-entrant-outlook-dii-special-daulton-hommes-amir-hinton
Hr dominates the ball, like James Harden does.
But he has a good form on his jumper, solid shooting stroke with range, very tight handle, pretty good court awareness.
Not overly athletic, and playing against subpar talent, but is very craft and heady player.
He is intriguing, and will probably get drafted, but I dont see a top 20 player here.
Thanks. TP
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I really like this Rui Hachimura kid.
it s a Slicer , no a Dicer , a Chopper , nooo....its Hach mura -matic
wait ! order now and recieve a second Hachi FREE ! ;D
Ha! I thought it was the newest TV brand... “Introducing the NEW Rui Hachimura 2019...it’s an 8K QLED TV with several new features”.
But I don’t think it could outsell the Hachi Mura Matic!