Bradley Beal said. The jab doesn't prevent you from getting it or spreading it. So why do they continue to force this thing?
Eh. Seatbelts don’t prevent deaths in automobile accidents, either.
So what's the point in taking the jab if it doesn't prevent or stop transmission? Natural immunity has been proven now to be much better and longer lasting.
Very small chance of death unless old or very sick vaxed or not.
If you replace “old” with “young” in your last sentence would you still think there’s no point in taking the jab?
Not sure I understand how people who are ill or over 60 don’t seem to matter all that much. The % of Americans over 60 is about the same as Americans under 18.
To be fair, if forced to compare, I do value the lives of children more so than elderly - but it does feel like your premise is basically, if it just kills old people and sick people why should the rest of us make any extra effort?
And of course the jab does provide protection from transmission, severe illness, and death.
TP. That’s a great way to put it. People seem to forget that those who aren’t them are people too.
No. Old people with serious health implications are Always the people with the most risk. That's never going to change.
Old people die. It sucks but it's natural. Flipping them makes no sense. Young people bounce back quickly from.most ailments.
One clarification and then I'll make a quick point in response to your post: at first you were talking about old people OR people who are very sick, and then in your response you are talking about older people WITH serious illness.. My comments were just about older people in general (60+) -- many of whom do bounce back quickly from ailments just like younger people.
I think we're in agreement that society should highly value the protection of young people, but my point was that if we can mitigate the impact of a fast-spreading deadly virus in people over 60, we should take seriously the opportunity to do so. No doubt we would do so if it were impacting young people at high rates. The idea that "old people die" isn't convincing rationale to minimize our efforts.
Yep. We can do better than “well old people are likely to die so sucks for them”, as if we’re always going to stay young and healthy. While older and sicker people will usually be at most risk for anything, there’s a chance to collectively mitigate what that level of risk means. At least for covid.
For example, Klay Thompson might be the “worst” FT shooter among Steph-KD-Klay but it doesn’t mean theres high chances of him missing. He’s just “most at-risk” of missing a free throw. Even with vaccines, I think older and sicker people are still at most risk regardless. But maybe they go from…
- Ben Simmons (unvaccinated)
- Draymond Green (individually vaccinated)
- Klay Thompson (collectively vaccinated)
Klay Thompson can still miss free throws and Ben Simmons can still make free throws. Just like how people with vaccines can still die and unvaccinated people can still live. But I worry people like Kyrie will point to Klay’s 211 missed career free throws and say “see! So much for all that shooting practice!”
