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Re: Celtics (17-7) at Mavericks (18-8) Game #25 12/18/19
« Reply #240 on: December 19, 2019, 08:44:34 AM »

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And I don't know how Dwight Powell floundered when he was briefly here in Boston, because he's turned into a good player in Dallas.
Three things.

A. Its been 5 years and he's been given minutes on a mostly non-playoff team so he's had the opportunity to get better under a good coach.

B. The NBA has gotten smaller, this allows him to play at C where he can use his quickness most effectively.

C. He was in Boston for a very short time as a rookie, rookies usually suck no matter what the end up being.
There's also the extra tidbit that he showed flashes of potential as a rookie for Boston.
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Re: Celtics (17-7) at Mavericks (18-8) Game #25 12/18/19
« Reply #241 on: December 19, 2019, 09:22:16 AM »

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And I don't know how Dwight Powell floundered when he was briefly here in Boston, because he's turned into a good player in Dallas.
Three things.

A. Its been 5 years and he's been given minutes on a mostly non-playoff team so he's had the opportunity to get better under a good coach.

B. The NBA has gotten smaller, this allows him to play at C where he can use his quickness most effectively.

C. He was in Boston for a very short time as a rookie, rookies usually suck no matter what the end up being.
There's also the extra tidbit that he showed flashes of potential as a rookie for Boston.

I think it's fair to wonder why a player like him has flourished under Carlisle but didn't under Stevens.

Re: Celtics (17-7) at Mavericks (18-8) Game #25 12/18/19
« Reply #242 on: December 19, 2019, 09:28:09 AM »

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And I don't know how Dwight Powell floundered when he was briefly here in Boston, because he's turned into a good player in Dallas.
Three things.

A. Its been 5 years and he's been given minutes on a mostly non-playoff team so he's had the opportunity to get better under a good coach.

B. The NBA has gotten smaller, this allows him to play at C where he can use his quickness most effectively.

C. He was in Boston for a very short time as a rookie, rookies usually suck no matter what the end up being.
There's also the extra tidbit that he showed flashes of potential as a rookie for Boston.

I think it's fair to wonder why a player like him has flourished under Carlisle but didn't under Stevens.
I wasn't a super avid Celtics fan back then (I certainly couldn't watch most games like I do now), but I do remember Powell putting in some solid games for us when given the opportunity, I really liked his speed and motor. Was always baffled as to why we didn't re-sign him, I thought Dallas had a decent role player in the making when they snapped him up in free agency.
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Re: Celtics (17-7) at Mavericks (18-8) Game #25 12/18/19
« Reply #243 on: December 19, 2019, 09:35:08 AM »

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I think it's fair to wonder why a player like him has flourished under Carlisle but didn't under Stevens.
What? He was traded two months into the season of his rookie year, he was up and down in the G-League and had 4 big men who were competing with him. (Bass, Olynyk, Zeller, Sullinger)

He got a total of 9 minutes in Boston and only 290 total in Dallas his rookie year.

I get it you don't like Stevens but at least know what you're talking about before you fire shots. Yikes!

Re: Celtics (17-7) at Mavericks (18-8) Game #25 12/18/19
« Reply #244 on: December 19, 2019, 09:36:52 AM »

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And I don't know how Dwight Powell floundered when he was briefly here in Boston, because he's turned into a good player in Dallas.
Three things.

A. Its been 5 years and he's been given minutes on a mostly non-playoff team so he's had the opportunity to get better under a good coach.

B. The NBA has gotten smaller, this allows him to play at C where he can use his quickness most effectively.

C. He was in Boston for a very short time as a rookie, rookies usually suck no matter what the end up being.
There's also the extra tidbit that he showed flashes of potential as a rookie for Boston.

I think it's fair to wonder why a player like him has flourished under Carlisle but didn't under Stevens.
I wasn't a super avid Celtics fan back then (I certainly couldn't watch most games like I do now), but I do remember Powell putting in some solid games for us when given the opportunity, I really liked his speed and motor. Was always baffled as to why we didn't re-sign him, I thought Dallas had a decent role player in the making when they snapped him up in free agency.
What are you talking about? We traded for him as a rookie and then he was part of the Rondo trade that happened December 18th that season!

Do you really remember the 8 minutes he was on the court with the C's, or are you just creating a memory?

Re: Celtics (17-7) at Mavericks (18-8) Game #25 12/18/19
« Reply #245 on: December 19, 2019, 09:49:02 AM »

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And I don't know how Dwight Powell floundered when he was briefly here in Boston, because he's turned into a good player in Dallas.
Three things.

A. Its been 5 years and he's been given minutes on a mostly non-playoff team so he's had the opportunity to get better under a good coach.

B. The NBA has gotten smaller, this allows him to play at C where he can use his quickness most effectively.

C. He was in Boston for a very short time as a rookie, rookies usually suck no matter what the end up being.
There's also the extra tidbit that he showed flashes of potential as a rookie for Boston.

I think it's fair to wonder why a player like him has flourished under Carlisle but didn't under Stevens.
I wasn't a super avid Celtics fan back then (I certainly couldn't watch most games like I do now), but I do remember Powell putting in some solid games for us when given the opportunity, I really liked his speed and motor. Was always baffled as to why we didn't re-sign him, I thought Dallas had a decent role player in the making when they snapped him up in free agency.
What are you talking about? We traded for him as a rookie and then he was part of the Rondo trade that happened December 18th that season!

Do you really remember the 8 minutes he was on the court with the C's, or are you just creating a memory?
Oh yeah my bad, again I wasn't super tuned in back then. Btw I checked his rookie season and it was his G-League performances, he had some big games (although to be fair everyone had great games back then in the G-League) that probably made me create this memory lol.
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Re: Celtics (17-7) at Mavericks (18-8) Game #25 12/18/19
« Reply #246 on: December 19, 2019, 09:49:22 AM »

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And I don't know how Dwight Powell floundered when he was briefly here in Boston, because he's turned into a good player in Dallas.
Three things.

A. Its been 5 years and he's been given minutes on a mostly non-playoff team so he's had the opportunity to get better under a good coach.

B. The NBA has gotten smaller, this allows him to play at C where he can use his quickness most effectively.

C. He was in Boston for a very short time as a rookie, rookies usually suck no matter what the end up being.
There's also the extra tidbit that he showed flashes of potential as a rookie for Boston.

I think it's fair to wonder why a player like him has flourished under Carlisle but didn't under Stevens.
I wasn't a super avid Celtics fan back then (I certainly couldn't watch most games like I do now), but I do remember Powell putting in some solid games for us when given the opportunity, I really liked his speed and motor. Was always baffled as to why we didn't re-sign him, I thought Dallas had a decent role player in the making when they snapped him up in free agency.
What are you talking about? We traded for him as a rookie and then he was part of the Rondo trade that happened December 18th that season!

Do you really remember the 8 minutes he was on the court with the C's, or are you just creating a memory?
I remember Cuban saying: "when it is all said and done Powell will be a better player than Crowder." They really liked him in that trade

Re: Celtics (17-7) at Mavericks (18-8) Game #25 12/18/19
« Reply #247 on: December 19, 2019, 09:59:53 AM »

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I think it's fair to wonder why a player like him has flourished under Carlisle but didn't under Stevens.
What? He was traded two months into the season of his rookie year, he was up and down in the G-League and had 4 big men who were competing with him. (Bass, Olynyk, Zeller, Sullinger)

He got a total of 9 minutes in Boston and only 290 total in Dallas his rookie year.

I get it you don't like Stevens but at least know what you're talking about before you fire shots. Yikes!

If anybody wonders about Powell's success, do they also wonder why Crowder was stuck on the bench in Dallas but flourished here?  Or how Evan Turner went from unwanted before Boston to $18m per year afterwards?  Or the Bradley/Morris trade, where everyone thought the C's gave up the best player, but it turned out whoever was playing in Boston looked like the best player?  Or Sullinger who went solid starter to out of the league.  Or how undrafted 25 and 29 year old rookies (Theis and Wanamaker) prove to be solid NBA players?  Player of the Week Jordan Crawford?  Isaiah???

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Re: Celtics (17-7) at Mavericks (18-8) Game #25 12/18/19
« Reply #248 on: December 19, 2019, 10:01:11 AM »

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I remember Cuban saying: "when it is all said and done Powell will be a better player than Crowder." They really liked him in that trade
He did that after Rondo flamed out there and got benched in the playoffs.  ;)

He was a pretty solid role player in his second year. Crowder was a really good role player right away for the Celtics. I am just floored by people just making up memories about Powell and how he didn't "develop" under Stevens.

Re: Celtics (17-7) at Mavericks (18-8) Game #25 12/18/19
« Reply #249 on: December 19, 2019, 10:05:43 AM »

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I think it's fair to wonder why a player like him has flourished under Carlisle but didn't under Stevens.
What? He was traded two months into the season of his rookie year, he was up and down in the G-League and had 4 big men who were competing with him. (Bass, Olynyk, Zeller, Sullinger)

He got a total of 9 minutes in Boston and only 290 total in Dallas his rookie year.

I get it you don't like Stevens but at least know what you're talking about before you fire shots. Yikes!

If anybody wonders about Powell's success, do they also wonder why Crowder was stuck on the bench in Dallas but flourished here?  Or how Evan Turner went from unwanted before Boston to $18m per year afterwards?  Or the Bradley/Morris trade, where everyone thought the C's gave up the best player, but it turned out whoever was playing in Boston looked like the best player?  Or Sullinger who went solid starter to out of the league.  Or how undrafted 25 and 29 year old rookies (Theis and Wanamaker) prove to be solid NBA players?  Player of the Week Jordan Crawford?  Isaiah???
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Re: Celtics (17-7) at Mavericks (18-8) Game #25 12/18/19
« Reply #250 on: December 19, 2019, 11:07:13 AM »

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I think it's fair to wonder why a player like him has flourished under Carlisle but didn't under Stevens.
What? He was traded two months into the season of his rookie year, he was up and down in the G-League and had 4 big men who were competing with him. (Bass, Olynyk, Zeller, Sullinger)

He got a total of 9 minutes in Boston and only 290 total in Dallas his rookie year.

I get it you don't like Stevens but at least know what you're talking about before you fire shots. Yikes!

If anybody wonders about Powell's success, do they also wonder why Crowder was stuck on the bench in Dallas but flourished here?  Or how Evan Turner went from unwanted before Boston to $18m per year afterwards?  Or the Bradley/Morris trade, where everyone thought the C's gave up the best player, but it turned out whoever was playing in Boston looked like the best player?  Or Sullinger who went solid starter to out of the league.  Or how undrafted 25 and 29 year old rookies (Theis and Wanamaker) prove to be solid NBA players?  Player of the Week Jordan Crawford?  Isaiah???

TP. They say humans only remember positives in the long term and it is part of our ability to survive. Unfortunately, that theory clearly does not hold for Boston Celtics player development.

Re: Celtics (17-7) at Mavericks (18-8) Game #25 12/18/19
« Reply #251 on: December 19, 2019, 11:26:19 AM »

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I think it's fair to wonder why a player like him has flourished under Carlisle but didn't under Stevens.
What? He was traded two months into the season of his rookie year, he was up and down in the G-League and had 4 big men who were competing with him. (Bass, Olynyk, Zeller, Sullinger)

He got a total of 9 minutes in Boston and only 290 total in Dallas his rookie year.

I get it you don't like Stevens but at least know what you're talking about before you fire shots. Yikes!

If anybody wonders about Powell's success, do they also wonder why Crowder was stuck on the bench in Dallas but flourished here?  Or how Evan Turner went from unwanted before Boston to $18m per year afterwards?  Or the Bradley/Morris trade, where everyone thought the C's gave up the best player, but it turned out whoever was playing in Boston looked like the best player?  Or Sullinger who went solid starter to out of the league.  Or how undrafted 25 and 29 year old rookies (Theis and Wanamaker) prove to be solid NBA players?  Player of the Week Jordan Crawford?  Isaiah???

Nailed it!

Re: Celtics (17-7) at Mavericks (18-8) Game #25 12/18/19
« Reply #252 on: December 20, 2019, 05:06:41 PM »

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And I don't know how Dwight Powell floundered when he was briefly here in Boston, because he's turned into a good player in Dallas.
Three things.

A. Its been 5 years and he's been given minutes on a mostly non-playoff team so he's had the opportunity to get better under a good coach.

B. The NBA has gotten smaller, this allows him to play at C where he can use his quickness most effectively.

C. He was in Boston for a very short time as a rookie, rookies usually suck no matter what the end up being.
There's also the extra tidbit that he showed flashes of potential as a rookie for Boston.

I think it's fair to wonder why a player like him has flourished under Carlisle but didn't under Stevens.
I wasn't a super avid Celtics fan back then (I certainly couldn't watch most games like I do now), but I do remember Powell putting in some solid games for us when given the opportunity, I really liked his speed and motor. Was always baffled as to why we didn't re-sign him, I thought Dallas had a decent role player in the making when they snapped him up in free agency.
What are you talking about? We traded for him as a rookie and then he was part of the Rondo trade that happened December 18th that season!

Do you really remember the 8 minutes he was on the court with the C's, or are you just creating a memory?
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Re: Celtics (17-7) at Mavericks (18-8) Game #25 12/18/19
« Reply #253 on: December 21, 2019, 12:05:57 AM »

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Good solid win against a good team.

good team?

without Doncic they are just ok

I will take the win but this should have been a layup for the Celts (and it was)
They just beat the Bucks without Doncic....

Mavs are a good team.

They just beat The Sixers without Doncic.

Re: Celtics (17-7) at Mavericks (18-8) Game #25 12/18/19
« Reply #254 on: December 22, 2019, 11:29:40 AM »

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Good solid win against a good team.

good team?

without Doncic they are just ok

I will take the win but this should have been a layup for the Celts (and it was)
They just beat the Bucks without Doncic....

Mavs are a good team.

They just beat The Sixers without Doncic.

I'm impressed with Porzingis, special player. Once him and Luka kinda get their rhythm together, Dallas is going to give the West fits.