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Re: Idea: Kelly Olynyk back for the MLE in the offseason?
« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2021, 04:47:32 PM »

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If Olynyk keeps on playing like this he's getting way more than the MLE in the offseason.

Kelly will get paid by someone. 10-12 million per. Bigs that can shoot and pass are too valuable.
Who is giving KO more than the MLE?  He doesn't do much for non-contending type teams and the contenders don't have cap space.  I mean is a bad team really going to pay KO more than MLE to basically not improve them at all.  I guess he'd make sense on the Pelicans, but I suspect they are spending their money on other things.
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Re: Idea: Kelly Olynyk back for the MLE in the offseason?
« Reply #16 on: April 11, 2021, 05:00:00 PM »

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If Olynyk keeps on playing like this he's getting way more than the MLE in the offseason.

Kelly will get paid by someone. 10-12 million per. Bigs that can shoot and pass are too valuable.
Who is giving KO more than the MLE?  He doesn't do much for non-contending type teams and the contenders don't have cap space.  I mean is a bad team really going to pay KO more than MLE to basically not improve them at all.  I guess he'd make sense on the Pelicans, but I suspect they are spending their money on other things.

Miami gave him 12, right?

Re: Idea: Kelly Olynyk back for the MLE in the offseason?
« Reply #17 on: April 11, 2021, 05:16:53 PM »

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If Olynyk keeps on playing like this he's getting way more than the MLE in the offseason.

Kelly will get paid by someone. 10-12 million per. Bigs that can shoot and pass are too valuable.
Who is giving KO more than the MLE?  He doesn't do much for non-contending type teams and the contenders don't have cap space.  I mean is a bad team really going to pay KO more than MLE to basically not improve them at all.  I guess he'd make sense on the Pelicans, but I suspect they are spending their money on other things.

Miami gave him 12, right?
When he was 26 and all teams had a bunch of cap room because of the cap spikes.  And of course Miami was a playoff team and figured it had the pieces to become a contender. 

I'm not saying it won't happen, I'm just saying I think it is unlikely he gets more than the MLE this time.  All it takes is one team though, so who knows.
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Re: Idea: Kelly Olynyk back for the MLE in the offseason?
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If Olynyk keeps on playing like this he's getting way more than the MLE in the offseason.

Kelly will get paid by someone. 10-12 million per. Bigs that can shoot and pass are too valuable.
Who is giving KO more than the MLE?  He doesn't do much for non-contending type teams and the contenders don't have cap space.  I mean is a bad team really going to pay KO more than MLE to basically not improve them at all.  I guess he'd make sense on the Pelicans, but I suspect they are spending their money on other things.

Miami gave him 12, right?
When he was 26 and all teams had a bunch of cap room because of the cap spikes.  And of course Miami was a playoff team and figured it had the pieces to become a contender. 

I'm not saying it won't happen, I'm just saying I think it is unlikely he gets more than the MLE this time.  All it takes is one team though, so who knows.

The only team that I could see you doing it is Houston, giving him a one year deal over the MLE.


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Re: Idea: Kelly Olynyk back for the MLE in the offseason?
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Re: Idea: Kelly Olynyk back for the MLE in the offseason?
« Reply #20 on: April 11, 2021, 07:09:43 PM »

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If Olynyk keeps on playing like this he's getting way more than the MLE in the offseason.

Kelly will get paid by someone. 10-12 million per. Bigs that can shoot and pass are too valuable.
Who is giving KO more than the MLE?  He doesn't do much for non-contending type teams and the contenders don't have cap space.  I mean is a bad team really going to pay KO more than MLE to basically not improve them at all.  I guess he'd make sense on the Pelicans, but I suspect they are spending their money on other things.

Miami gave him 12, right?
When he was 26 and all teams had a bunch of cap room because of the cap spikes.  And of course Miami was a playoff team and figured it had the pieces to become a contender. 

I'm not saying it won't happen, I'm just saying I think it is unlikely he gets more than the MLE this time.  All it takes is one team though, so who knows.

Kelly's only 29 now. Someone will pay him. Gordon Hayward is a 31 year old injury prone player who got a max contract for 4 years. I never thought that would happen.

Re: Idea: Kelly Olynyk back for the MLE in the offseason?
« Reply #21 on: April 11, 2021, 07:20:00 PM »

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If Olynyk keeps on playing like this he's getting way more than the MLE in the offseason.

Kelly will get paid by someone. 10-12 million per. Bigs that can shoot and pass are too valuable.
Who is giving KO more than the MLE?  He doesn't do much for non-contending type teams and the contenders don't have cap space.  I mean is a bad team really going to pay KO more than MLE to basically not improve them at all.  I guess he'd make sense on the Pelicans, but I suspect they are spending their money on other things.

Miami gave him 12, right?
When he was 26 and all teams had a bunch of cap room because of the cap spikes.  And of course Miami was a playoff team and figured it had the pieces to become a contender. 

I'm not saying it won't happen, I'm just saying I think it is unlikely he gets more than the MLE this time.  All it takes is one team though, so who knows.

Kelly's only 29 now. Someone will pay him. Gordon Hayward is a 31 year old injury prone player who got a max contract for 4 years. I never thought that would happen.
Hayward is a significantly better player than Olynyk though.  Not even close.  KO is a back-up big man.  He is useful and has a role, but he isn't the type of guy you give big money to because he doesn't do anything at an elite level, isn't young, etc.  Every team in the league could use KO, but I really don't think anyone is going to pay him a lot of money because he isn't going to move a team up a tier (i.e. no one is advancing further in the playoffs, winning appreciably more games, etc. with KO than without him) and basically none of the contenders will have more than the MLE (and the contenders really are the teams that could use him).
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Re: Idea: Kelly Olynyk back for the MLE in the offseason?
« Reply #22 on: April 11, 2021, 10:10:09 PM »

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If Olynyk keeps on playing like this he's getting way more than the MLE in the offseason.

Kelly will get paid by someone. 10-12 million per. Bigs that can shoot and pass are too valuable.
Who is giving KO more than the MLE?  He doesn't do much for non-contending type teams and the contenders don't have cap space.  I mean is a bad team really going to pay KO more than MLE to basically not improve them at all.  I guess he'd make sense on the Pelicans, but I suspect they are spending their money on other things.

Miami gave him 12, right?
When he was 26 and all teams had a bunch of cap room because of the cap spikes.  And of course Miami was a playoff team and figured it had the pieces to become a contender. 

I'm not saying it won't happen, I'm just saying I think it is unlikely he gets more than the MLE this time.  All it takes is one team though, so who knows.

Kelly's only 29 now. Someone will pay him. Gordon Hayward is a 31 year old injury prone player who got a max contract for 4 years. I never thought that would happen.
Hayward is a significantly better player than Olynyk though.  Not even close.  KO is a back-up big man.  He is useful and has a role, but he isn't the type of guy you give big money to because he doesn't do anything at an elite level, isn't young, etc.  Every team in the league could use KO, but I really don't think anyone is going to pay him a lot of money because he isn't going to move a team up a tier (i.e. no one is advancing further in the playoffs, winning appreciably more games, etc. with KO than without him) and basically none of the contenders will have more than the MLE (and the contenders really are the teams that could use him).

Hayward is way better than Kelly no doubt but the best ability is availability. I wouldn't give Hayward the Max and expect him to play most of his game for that contract but my point was someone will almost always over pay.

Re: Idea: Kelly Olynyk back for the MLE in the offseason?
« Reply #23 on: April 11, 2021, 10:28:44 PM »

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If Olynyk keeps on playing like this he's getting way more than the MLE in the offseason.

Kelly will get paid by someone. 10-12 million per. Bigs that can shoot and pass are too valuable.
Who is giving KO more than the MLE?  He doesn't do much for non-contending type teams and the contenders don't have cap space.  I mean is a bad team really going to pay KO more than MLE to basically not improve them at all.  I guess he'd make sense on the Pelicans, but I suspect they are spending their money on other things.

Miami gave him 12, right?
When he was 26 and all teams had a bunch of cap room because of the cap spikes.  And of course Miami was a playoff team and figured it had the pieces to become a contender. 

I'm not saying it won't happen, I'm just saying I think it is unlikely he gets more than the MLE this time.  All it takes is one team though, so who knows.

Kelly's only 29 now. Someone will pay him. Gordon Hayward is a 31 year old injury prone player who got a max contract for 4 years. I never thought that would happen.

True... If H*yw*rd can essentially take 3 seasons off and get the max Olynyk is likely going to get overpaid as well.

Re: Idea: Kelly Olynyk back for the MLE in the offseason?
« Reply #24 on: April 11, 2021, 11:15:16 PM »

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If Olynyk keeps on playing like this he's getting way more than the MLE in the offseason.

Kelly will get paid by someone. 10-12 million per. Bigs that can shoot and pass are too valuable.
Who is giving KO more than the MLE?  He doesn't do much for non-contending type teams and the contenders don't have cap space.  I mean is a bad team really going to pay KO more than MLE to basically not improve them at all.  I guess he'd make sense on the Pelicans, but I suspect they are spending their money on other things.

Miami gave him 12, right?
When he was 26 and all teams had a bunch of cap room because of the cap spikes.  And of course Miami was a playoff team and figured it had the pieces to become a contender. 

I'm not saying it won't happen, I'm just saying I think it is unlikely he gets more than the MLE this time.  All it takes is one team though, so who knows.

Kelly's only 29 now. Someone will pay him. Gordon Hayward is a 31 year old injury prone player who got a max contract for 4 years. I never thought that would happen.
Hayward is a significantly better player than Olynyk though.  Not even close.  KO is a back-up big man.  He is useful and has a role, but he isn't the type of guy you give big money to because he doesn't do anything at an elite level, isn't young, etc.  Every team in the league could use KO, but I really don't think anyone is going to pay him a lot of money because he isn't going to move a team up a tier (i.e. no one is advancing further in the playoffs, winning appreciably more games, etc. with KO than without him) and basically none of the contenders will have more than the MLE (and the contenders really are the teams that could use him).

Hayward is way better than Kelly no doubt but the best ability is availability. I wouldn't give Hayward the Max and expect him to play most of his game for that contract but my point was someone will almost always over pay.
Who with cap space is going to pay KO more than the MLE?  That is always the question. 
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Re: Idea: Kelly Olynyk back for the MLE in the offseason?
« Reply #25 on: April 14, 2021, 01:07:37 PM »

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If Olynyk keeps on playing like this he's getting way more than the MLE in the offseason.

Kelly will get paid by someone. 10-12 million per. Bigs that can shoot and pass are too valuable.
Who is giving KO more than the MLE?  He doesn't do much for non-contending type teams and the contenders don't have cap space.  I mean is a bad team really going to pay KO more than MLE to basically not improve them at all.  I guess he'd make sense on the Pelicans, but I suspect they are spending their money on other things.

Miami gave him 12, right?
When he was 26 and all teams had a bunch of cap room because of the cap spikes.  And of course Miami was a playoff team and figured it had the pieces to become a contender. 

I'm not saying it won't happen, I'm just saying I think it is unlikely he gets more than the MLE this time.  All it takes is one team though, so who knows.

The only team that I could see you doing it is Houston, giving him a one year deal over the MLE.
Charlotte? I see them handing a big short term deal to Olynyk to help boost their FA stock so they can pair a star next to LaMelo/Rozier/Hayward in a year or two.
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Re: Idea: Kelly Olynyk back for the MLE in the offseason?
« Reply #26 on: April 14, 2021, 05:19:32 PM »

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He'd be an upgrade over some of our but still has the same problems, slow and can't always stay in front of his man and not much of a rim protector. 

Re: Idea: Kelly Olynyk back for the MLE in the offseason?
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My problem with Olynyk is the same problem I have with tons of 7 footers(I know Kelly is 6'11" now due to barefoot measurements), lack of rebounding ability. I'm sorry, but if you are 7 feet tall or taller and can't average over 10 rebounds per 36 minutes or have a rebound percentage over 16%, I am not a fan of your game.

That said, if the Cs can land him for the taxpayer MLE and give him Semi's or Wagner/Kornet's roster slot, that would be a really nice upgrade.

Re: Idea: Kelly Olynyk back for the MLE in the offseason?
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If Olynyk keeps on playing like this he's getting way more than the MLE in the offseason.

Kelly will get paid by someone. 10-12 million per. Bigs that can shoot and pass are too valuable.
Who is giving KO more than the MLE?  He doesn't do much for non-contending type teams and the contenders don't have cap space.  I mean is a bad team really going to pay KO more than MLE to basically not improve them at all.  I guess he'd make sense on the Pelicans, but I suspect they are spending their money on other things.

Miami gave him 12, right?
When he was 26 and all teams had a bunch of cap room because of the cap spikes.  And of course Miami was a playoff team and figured it had the pieces to become a contender. 

I'm not saying it won't happen, I'm just saying I think it is unlikely he gets more than the MLE this time.  All it takes is one team though, so who knows.

The only team that I could see you doing it is Houston, giving him a one year deal over the MLE.
Charlotte? I see them handing a big short term deal to Olynyk to help boost their FA stock so they can pair a star next to LaMelo/Rozier/Hayward in a year or two.
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Re: Idea: Kelly Olynyk back for the MLE in the offseason?
« Reply #29 on: April 15, 2021, 01:42:45 AM »

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My problem with Olynyk is the same problem I have with tons of 7 footers(I know Kelly is 6'11" now due to barefoot measurements), lack of rebounding ability. I'm sorry, but if you are 7 feet tall or taller and can't average over 10 rebounds per 36 minutes or have a rebound percentage over 16%, I am not a fan of your game.

That said, if the Cs can land him for the taxpayer MLE and give him Semi's or Wagner/Kornet's roster slot, that would be a really nice upgrade.

His rebounding has improved since he left the Celtics and with more time on the court. Since joining the Rockets he’s averaging 30 min/game instead of his usual 18-22 min/game. As a result he’s averaging over 8 rebounds/game, or 9.72/36 minutes. That’s about as close to 10 as KO is ever going to get, but it’s just a slight round up to get there.