where would Donovan Mitchell be selcted in a re-draft?

[CelticsElite]

Mitchell should be ahead of Tatum as far as RotY goes, but not a hypothetical re-draft.

Tatum was widely considered to have the highest floor of anybody in the draft, but people seriously underestimated his ceiling. I believe his scoring will become elite, his defense and rebounding could be a major plus as well.

Mitchell has been spectacular in a role tailor-made for him. He deserves Rookie of the Year. But Tatum will have the better career, and I’d be surprised if it’s even close by the end of their rookie contracts.

in what way is Mitchell better than Tatum?

 If you get the ball in the basket more efficiently, you are much better than volume shooters or bricklayers.

True Shooting Percentage


Jayson Tatum   58.9%

Ben Simmons   55%

Kyle Kuzma   54.6%

Donovan Mitchell 54.2%

Lonzo Ball   44.4%




Volume shooters are volume shooters as they shoot with more volume. Not the volume sound, but the amount of shots they heave.

Shots per 36 minutes:


Donovan Mitchell 18.3

Kyle Kuzma 15.6   

Ben Simmons 13.3

Jayson Tatum 12

Lonzo Ball 11.5




A rookie who can defend is swell to have, especially one who was in the NCAA one day and in the NBA a few months later.

Defensive Rating:


Jayson Tatum   104

Ben Simmons   104

Donovan Mitchell 105

Lonzo Ball   105

Kyle Kuzma   109




Wouldn't it be amazing if the best rookie at defense was also the best rookie at offense.

Offensive Rating:


Jayson Tatum   112

Ben Simmons   109

Kyle Kuzma   105   

Donovan Mitchell 103

Lonzo Ball   97




A rookie who can play is shown by a rookie who doesn't pass the ball to the other team, as they have poise, and poise counts.

Turnovers per 36 minutes:


Jayson Tatum   1.6

Kyle Kuzma   2.0

Lonzo Ball   2.8   

Donovan Mitchell   3.0   

Ben Simmons   3.6




Range, a way to show how skilled a player is.

3point percentage:


Jayson Tatum   42.9%

Kyle Kuzma   36.6%

Donovan Mitchell   33.8%

Lonzo Ball   31.5%

Ben Simmons   0.0000%

[Phantom255x]

He'd be #2. Tatum would be #1.

Mitchell is having a superb season, but we have to realize he's averaging 20/4/4 while playing about 37-38 minutes a game and he's averaging like 17 shot attempts a game.

Meanwhile, Tatum is averaging 14/5/2 in about 30 minutes a game, but on about 7 less shot attempts a game too.

I think Tatum's ceiling is higher than Mitchell's, and Tatum does look like the most polished player that has come out of this Draft. Frankly, Tatum probably wouldn't even be getting 25+ MPG if Hayward was healthy, so while losing Hayward absolutely sucked, it was nice seeing Tatum and Brown both get a lot more minutes this year.

Mitchell truly has impressed me though and I think he's going to be a stud in this league, no doubt.

[moiso]

I agree with Nick that a lot of people will probably be surprised at just how good Ball and Fultz can be.  I’ll add Josh Jackson also.  I think he’ll be really good.  People are way too quick to write off players.

[Ilikesports17]

Mitchell should be ahead of Tatum as far as RotY goes, but not a hypothetical re-draft.

Tatum was widely considered to have the highest floor of anybody in the draft, but people seriously underestimated his ceiling. I believe his scoring will become elite, his defense and rebounding could be a major plus as well.

Mitchell has been spectacular in a role tailor-made for him. He deserves Rookie of the Year. But Tatum will have the better career, and I’d be surprised if it’s even close by the end of their rookie contracts.

in what way is Mitchell better than Tatum?

 If you get the ball in the basket more efficiently, you are much better than volume shooters or bricklayers.

True Shooting Percentage


Jayson Tatum   58.9%

Ben Simmons   55%

Kyle Kuzma   54.6%

Donovan Mitchell 54.2%

Lonzo Ball   44.4%




Volume shooters are volume shooters as they shoot with more volume. Not the volume sound, but the amount of shots they heave.

Shots per 36 minutes:


Donovan Mitchell 18.3

Kyle Kuzma 15.6   

Ben Simmons 13.3

Jayson Tatum 12

Lonzo Ball 11.5




A rookie who can defend is swell to have, especially one who was in the NCAA one day and in the NBA a few months later.

Defensive Rating:


Jayson Tatum   104

Ben Simmons   104

Donovan Mitchell 105

Lonzo Ball   105

Kyle Kuzma   109




Wouldn't it be amazing if the best rookie at defense was also the best rookie at offense.

Offensive Rating:


Jayson Tatum   112

Ben Simmons   109

Kyle Kuzma   105   

Donovan Mitchell 103

Lonzo Ball   97




A rookie who can play is shown by a rookie who doesn't pass the ball to the other team, as they have poise, and poise counts.

Turnovers per 36 minutes:


Jayson Tatum   1.6

Kyle Kuzma   2.0

Lonzo Ball   2.8   

Donovan Mitchell   3.0   

Ben Simmons   3.6




Range, a way to show how skilled a player is.

3point percentage:


Jayson Tatum   42.9%

Kyle Kuzma   36.6%

Donovan Mitchell   33.8%

Lonzo Ball   31.5%

Ben Simmons   0.0000%

Volume absolutely matters.

Mitchell is the #1 scoring option on a pretty darn good team. He deserves credit for that. Tatum is the most efficient and he's the advanced stats darling, but his roll has been much smaller than Mitchell. He's been asked to do a lot less.

[nickagneta]

Mitchell should be ahead of Tatum as far as RotY goes, but not a hypothetical re-draft.

Tatum was widely considered to have the highest floor of anybody in the draft, but people seriously underestimated his ceiling. I believe his scoring will become elite, his defense and rebounding could be a major plus as well.

Mitchell has been spectacular in a role tailor-made for him. He deserves Rookie of the Year. But Tatum will have the better career, and I’d be surprised if it’s even close by the end of their rookie contracts.

in what way is Mitchell better than Tatum?

 If you get the ball in the basket more efficiently, you are much better than volume shooters or bricklayers.

True Shooting Percentage


Jayson Tatum   58.9%

Ben Simmons   55%

Kyle Kuzma   54.6%

Donovan Mitchell 54.2%

Lonzo Ball   44.4%




Volume shooters are volume shooters as they shoot with more volume. Not the volume sound, but the amount of shots they heave.

Shots per 36 minutes:


Donovan Mitchell 18.3

Kyle Kuzma 15.6   

Ben Simmons 13.3

Jayson Tatum 12

Lonzo Ball 11.5




A rookie who can defend is swell to have, especially one who was in the NCAA one day and in the NBA a few months later.

Defensive Rating:


Jayson Tatum   104

Ben Simmons   104

Donovan Mitchell 105

Lonzo Ball   105

Kyle Kuzma   109




Wouldn't it be amazing if the best rookie at defense was also the best rookie at offense.

Offensive Rating:


Jayson Tatum   112

Ben Simmons   109

Kyle Kuzma   105   

Donovan Mitchell 103

Lonzo Ball   97




A rookie who can play is shown by a rookie who doesn't pass the ball to the other team, as they have poise, and poise counts.

Turnovers per 36 minutes:


Jayson Tatum   1.6

Kyle Kuzma   2.0

Lonzo Ball   2.8   

Donovan Mitchell   3.0   

Ben Simmons   3.6




Range, a way to show how skilled a player is.

3point percentage:


Jayson Tatum   42.9%

Kyle Kuzma   36.6%

Donovan Mitchell   33.8%

Lonzo Ball   31.5%

Ben Simmons   0.0000%

Volume absolutely matters.

Mitchell is the #1 scoring option on a pretty darn good team. He deserves credit for that. Tatum is the most efficient and he's the advanced stats darling, but his roll has been much smaller than Mitchell. He's been asked to do a lot less.

Also, Mitchell isn't a chucker. His TS% is league average and as a rookie with a usage rate as high as his, that's darn good.

[Eddie20]

Mitchell should be ahead of Tatum as far as RotY goes, but not a hypothetical re-draft.

Tatum was widely considered to have the highest floor of anybody in the draft, but people seriously underestimated his ceiling. I believe his scoring will become elite, his defense and rebounding could be a major plus as well.

Mitchell has been spectacular in a role tailor-made for him. He deserves Rookie of the Year. But Tatum will have the better career, and I’d be surprised if it’s even close by the end of their rookie contracts.

in what way is Mitchell better than Tatum?

 If you get the ball in the basket more efficiently, you are much better than volume shooters or bricklayers.

True Shooting Percentage


Jayson Tatum   58.9%

Ben Simmons   55%

Kyle Kuzma   54.6%

Donovan Mitchell 54.2%

Lonzo Ball   44.4%




Volume shooters are volume shooters as they shoot with more volume. Not the volume sound, but the amount of shots they heave.

Shots per 36 minutes:


Donovan Mitchell 18.3

Kyle Kuzma 15.6   

Ben Simmons 13.3

Jayson Tatum 12

Lonzo Ball 11.5




A rookie who can defend is swell to have, especially one who was in the NCAA one day and in the NBA a few months later.

Defensive Rating:


Jayson Tatum   104

Ben Simmons   104

Donovan Mitchell 105

Lonzo Ball   105

Kyle Kuzma   109




Wouldn't it be amazing if the best rookie at defense was also the best rookie at offense.

Offensive Rating:


Jayson Tatum   112

Ben Simmons   109

Kyle Kuzma   105   

Donovan Mitchell 103

Lonzo Ball   97




A rookie who can play is shown by a rookie who doesn't pass the ball to the other team, as they have poise, and poise counts.

Turnovers per 36 minutes:


Jayson Tatum   1.6

Kyle Kuzma   2.0

Lonzo Ball   2.8   

Donovan Mitchell   3.0   

Ben Simmons   3.6




Range, a way to show how skilled a player is.

3point percentage:


Jayson Tatum   42.9%

Kyle Kuzma   36.6%

Donovan Mitchell   33.8%

Lonzo Ball   31.5%

Ben Simmons   0.0000%

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[footey]

Reminds me of just last season when everyone talked up Brogdon. I'm not saying Mitchell won't be a star but a lot of people were hating on JB and others because of Brogdon (or is it brogdan?). 1 season is far too early.

Or Michael Carter Williams.

[Moranis]

I said 3 to 6 on page 1 and I'm sticking with that, with the slight modification of 3 to 7.  I think Tatum and Ball still both very clearly go ahead of Mitchell.  I believe Jackson, Fultz, Smith, and Markkanen all could as well.  While unlikely, I think Fox, Isaac, and Kuzma all might with certain teams.

[Big333223]

I said 3 to 6 on page 1 and I'm sticking with that, with the slight modification of 3 to 7.  I think Tatum and Ball still both very clearly go ahead of Mitchell.  I believe Jackson, Fultz, Smith, and Markkanen all could as well.  While unlikely, I think Fox, Isaac, and Kuzma all might with certain teams.

I hate to admit it but Ball's stat line of 10-7-7 is really impressive and from what I've heard he can defend as well. Given his age and upside (especially if he ever fixes his shot) Ball probably does still go ahead of Mitchell.

[indeedproceed]

Top 2 for sure. I don’t think Tatum or anyone else is a sure thing beyond what we’ve seen from Mitchell so far.

[playdream]

Tatum, Simmons and Mitchell in that order
Mitchell can be a Lillard or a MCW

[bopna]

Tatum, Simmons and Mitchell in that order
Mitchell can be a Lillard or a MCW

Pssst... Simmons is drafted 2 years ago.

[Bucketgetter]

I said 3 to 6 on page 1 and I'm sticking with that, with the slight modification of 3 to 7.  I think Tatum and Ball still both very clearly go ahead of Mitchell.  I believe Jackson, Fultz, Smith, and Markkanen all could as well.  While unlikely, I think Fox, Isaac, and Kuzma all might with certain teams.

There’s not a single team in the NBA that would choose Jonathan Isaac over Mitchell. That’s ridiculous.

[Surferdad]

D. Mitchell is one of the best stories of this NBA season - 21 year old SG who was overlooked in a great draft and is putting up 20/4/4 on good efficiency for a playoff team - probable ROTY.

My question is - where do you think he'd go in a re-draft if it were done today? Does he have as much potential as guys like Tatum, Ball, and Jackson? Or is he a one year wonder in the same class as guys like Tyreke Evans/Damon Stoudemire?

With this restriction, he goes #1.  He is leading all rookies in scoring.  He is not MCW.

[Big333223]

Tatum, Simmons and Mitchell in that order
Mitchell can be a Lillard or a MCW

I don't get the MCW comparison.

MCW was a stat stuffer on a terrible team trying to lose. Donavan Mitchel is the offensive leader on a playoff team.