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Resign?

Re-sign him at a price over $14 mill. He does a lot for the team
20 (14.6%)
Too much money. The Limited offense isn't worth this much
117 (85.4%)

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Re: Smart to ESPN: "i'm worth more than $14 mill a year" Goner?
« Reply #150 on: May 29, 2018, 03:48:08 PM »

Offline Tr1boy

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The project cap/tax for next year is:

$101 million salary cap, $123 million for luxury tax.

I doubt there is a drop due to fewer playoff games like last year, both conference finals went to 7 games and were highly rated.

thanks. Yeah I meant luxury tax

Re: Smart to ESPN: "i'm worth more than $14 mill a year" Goner?
« Reply #151 on: May 29, 2018, 03:50:16 PM »

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I d hate to see him on the Heat

Re: Smart to ESPN: "i'm worth more than $14 mill a year" Goner?
« Reply #152 on: May 29, 2018, 03:52:50 PM »

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I d hate to see him on the Heat

or 76ers, or Bucks

If he leaves, hope he goes west

Re: Smart to ESPN: "i'm worth more than $14 mill a year" Goner?
« Reply #153 on: May 29, 2018, 03:54:29 PM »

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I’d rather not lose Smart for nothing. Even if that means resigning him at more than we are comfortable with and then packaging him midway through the season, we probably should.

Also depends on what we do with our pick, if we can get someone like DiVincenzo (doubt it) then maybe he could step in and fill that role as backup SG.
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Re: Smart to ESPN: "i'm worth more than $14 mill a year" Goner?
« Reply #154 on: May 29, 2018, 03:58:18 PM »

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If a team matches an offer sheet and retains its free agent, then for one year they cannot trade him without his consent, and during that year cannot trade him at all to the team that signed him to the offer sheet. They also can't trade the player in a sign-and-trade transaction (see question number 92). A restricted free agent's resulting contract (whether with the new team or the contract is matched by the player's prior team) cannot be amended in any manner for one year.
It is unlikely we can trade smart for a full year because of this provision.

Re: Smart to ESPN: "i'm worth more than $14 mill a year" Goner?
« Reply #155 on: May 29, 2018, 04:00:32 PM »

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If a team matches an offer sheet and retains its free agent, then for one year they cannot trade him without his consent, and during that year cannot trade him at all to the team that signed him to the offer sheet. They also can't trade the player in a sign-and-trade transaction (see question number 92). A restricted free agent's resulting contract (whether with the new team or the contract is matched by the player's prior team) cannot be amended in any manner for one year.
It is unlikely we can trade smart for a full year because of this provision.

But that’s only if he is matched, if we just resign him we can trade him what, December 15?
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Re: Smart to ESPN: "i'm worth more than $14 mill a year" Goner?
« Reply #156 on: May 29, 2018, 04:02:01 PM »

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Yes that is only if an offer sheet is matched.

Also if he takes the QO he can also refuse any trade as well.

Re: Smart to ESPN: "i'm worth more than $14 mill a year" Goner?
« Reply #157 on: May 29, 2018, 04:18:00 PM »

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I’m coming out from under my rock to say that the Pacers could give Smart a 4-year deal in the $60-72 million range that both might make sense for them and be very difficult for the Celtics to match.

And now I’m going back under my rock.

Re: Smart to ESPN: "i'm worth more than $14 mill a year" Goner?
« Reply #158 on: May 29, 2018, 04:43:29 PM »

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I’m coming out from under my rock to say that the Pacers could give Smart a 4-year deal in the $60-72 million range that both might make sense for them and be very difficult for the Celtics to match.

And now I’m going back under my rock.
If Indiana comes out and offers him a whooping $18 million per season, I don't think there will be much of a conversation about whether he's staying or going.
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Re: Smart to ESPN: "i'm worth more than $14 mill a year" Goner?
« Reply #159 on: May 29, 2018, 05:15:28 PM »

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I’m coming out from under my rock to say that the Pacers could give Smart a 4-year deal in the $60-72 million range that both might make sense for them and be very difficult for the Celtics to match.

And now I’m going back under my rock.

Come back out.

And if IND offers anything more than 15+ million, well.. Love you Smart, will greatly miss you, but bye! :( :(  :'( :'( :'( :'(
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Re: Smart to ESPN: "i'm worth more than $14 mill a year" Goner?
« Reply #160 on: May 29, 2018, 05:44:08 PM »

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I’m coming out from under my rock to say that the Pacers could give Smart a 4-year deal in the $60-72 million range that both might make sense for them and be very difficult for the Celtics to match.

And now I’m going back under my rock.

Well, it does tend to be cooler, there, in the summer ;D.

Re: Marcus Smart at $12-$14 million per year?
« Reply #161 on: May 29, 2018, 11:02:21 PM »

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Iggy got from Golden State 3 year / $48,000,000. Seems like a lot but for a contender. If Smart could hit that corner 3 like Iggy he might be worth it. Smart takes a lot of long threes from the top but should mainly be shooting from the corners.
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Re: Marcus Smart at $12-$14 million per year?
« Reply #162 on: May 29, 2018, 11:08:19 PM »

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I can see the Celts offering 10, 11, 12 million 3 year deal

Smart is likely looking for 15 average per season. 

Danny offers the above, Smart says no.  Danny signs him to a qualifying offer then goes from there

If another team offers 14 + .....  I can't see Danny matching. Wyc won't pay luxury tax for a super role player like Smart

Smart could be the 1st key (or semi key) player Danny loses for nothing.   AB with 1 year remaining - traded.  KG/PP with minimal years remaining - traded.  Rondo with 1 year remaining -traded.    IT4 with 1 year remaining - traded.

Re: Marcus Smart at $12-$14 million per year?
« Reply #163 on: May 30, 2018, 01:54:13 AM »

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It doesn’t matter what he thinks he’s worth at this time. It’s what the market thinks he’s worth. His thinking might also lead to him turning down smaller offers or him signing the qualifying offer.

Well said.

Re: Marcus Smart at $12-$14 million per year?
« Reply #164 on: May 30, 2018, 11:25:56 AM »

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If Irving and Hayward are going to be healthy longterm C's,  Smart is quite perfect on this team...