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Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (Update: Miami Now Favorites)
« Reply #300 on: July 01, 2017, 12:02:34 PM »

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Honestly, if at this stage Miami is the favorites, then I like our chances even more. It means, if we take the news as legit as it is, that he's very willing to leave Utah.

Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread
« Reply #301 on: July 01, 2017, 12:04:53 PM »

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Three league sources sense the current favorite for Gordon Hayward is Miami. Reasons: better lifestyle, Spoelstra, "feature scoring role."
Cons: you will never win anything in Miami.
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Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread
« Reply #302 on: July 01, 2017, 12:08:09 PM »

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Guys, come on. We all knew there were going to be "reports" about Hayward to Miami today. That's what always happens. Remember last year when Durant's LA meeting supposedly went so well that he was supposedly willing to take a paycut to go there? Lol

I still don't see Miami as a legit threat. We're a significantly better team than them, and we're much better positioned for a Finals run than them. It doesn't make sense for him to choose Miami over Boston. He really doesn't seem to be the "lifestyle" kind of guy that Miami offers, and the "featured scoring role" also doesn't seem to be A) in line with his character, and B) making that much sense, since he'll still get literally any shot he wants in Boston.

And think of it this way - if he truly does want to go to Miami due to the lifestyle and prominent scoring role, is he really a Celtics type of player?

But that doesn't really matter, because it's very, very, very difficult for me to see these things mattering all that much to him. He wants to win, and at this point Boston is head and shoulders above Miami and Utah in the West in that regard.

Yeah, plus the C's can keep adding to the core in the coming years.

Miami may keep Johnson (he's willing to take a paycut IF they sign Hayward), but what about Waiters? And after that, who else can they add, because that core to be honest is not even close to a championship looking core, even though they may finish Top 4 or 5 in a weak East.

But if Lowry stays in Toronto (looking likely now), I still think TOR if they keep Lowry and Ibaka are better than MIA, and CLE/WAS/BOS ahead of them as well, and this is without Hayward in Boston. Imagine Hayward added to Tatum and this Boston team.  ;D
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Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (Update: Miami Now Favorites)
« Reply #303 on: July 01, 2017, 12:09:44 PM »

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Pat Riley is the biggest snake in the game. He will absolutely dirty recruit against Boston and Ainge. Anyone who is not concerned about this is crazy

Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (Update: Miami Now Favorites)
« Reply #304 on: July 01, 2017, 12:11:04 PM »

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I don't get how spoelstra is a draw. Terrific coach, but can't see Hayward picking him over Snyder and Stevens.

Don't buy it.
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Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (Update: Miami Now Favorites)
« Reply #305 on: July 01, 2017, 12:14:10 PM »

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I don't get how spoelstra is a draw. Terrific coach, but can't see Hayward picking him over Snyder and Stevens.

Don't buy it.
Stevens is not that great. He lost us games with his poor rotations and refusal to take timeouts.
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Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (Update: Miami Now Favorites)
« Reply #306 on: July 01, 2017, 12:14:14 PM »

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I don't get how spoelstra is a draw. Terrific coach, but can't see Hayward picking him over Snyder and Stevens.

Don't buy it.

Yeah, I don't get it either.

Plus you can give credit to Miami for ending the season 30-11.

But you can't really ignore the start they had. And they didn't even make the playoffs in a "weak" East. Even the dysfunctional Bulls with Wade/Rondo/Butler managed to sneak in.
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« Reply #307 on: July 01, 2017, 12:14:23 PM »

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I don't get how spoelstra is a draw. Terrific coach, but can't see Hayward picking him over Snyder and Stevens.

Don't buy it.

Yeah, that was another reason I suspected this as fake news.

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« Reply #308 on: July 01, 2017, 12:15:42 PM »

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I don't get how spoelstra is a draw. Terrific coach, but can't see Hayward picking him over Snyder and Stevens.

Don't buy it.
Stevens is not that great.



I mean, I'm pretty confident if Brad Stevens had Lebron, Prime Wade and Bosh as coach, he'd win a championship too.
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Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (Update: Miami Now Favorites)
« Reply #309 on: July 01, 2017, 12:17:37 PM »

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I don't get how spoelstra is a draw. Terrific coach, but can't see Hayward picking him over Snyder and Stevens.

Don't buy it.
Stevens is not that great. He lost us games with his poor rotations and refusal to take timeouts.
Yeah we get that you hate Stevens and too many free agents, I could see spo being an advantage but this is obviously a unique situation. Advantage Stevens by far.
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Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (Update: Miami Now Favorites)
« Reply #310 on: July 01, 2017, 12:20:15 PM »

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Miami's roster is not very strong. They would be a 5 or 6 seed in the East. They do not have ANY young assets...I just do not get how Miami...other than being in the East...is even better than Utah.

Boston has everything you want. Good vet/rookie balance. Tradition. Money. Assets...young coach who Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.ING recruited you to Butler and won with you there.

Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (Update: Miami Now Favorites)
« Reply #311 on: July 01, 2017, 12:24:19 PM »

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Those league sources are just speculating with no actual info.

It's weird how people are making Riley into this NBA super-genius.  He's a smart guy but it's like people forget it was LeBron, Wade and Bosh who really made the deal in Miami. 

Mike

Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (Update: Miami Now Favorites)
« Reply #312 on: July 01, 2017, 12:29:38 PM »

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Honestly, if at this stage Miami is the favorites, then I like our chances even more. It means, if we take the news as legit as it is, that he's very willing to leave Utah.

I had that thought too.
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« Reply #313 on: July 01, 2017, 12:34:03 PM »

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Pat Riley is the biggest snake in the game. He will absolutely dirty recruit against Boston and Ainge. Anyone who is not concerned about this is crazy
Could you be more specific?
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Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (Update: Miami Now Favorites)
« Reply #314 on: July 01, 2017, 12:34:35 PM »

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- All three coaches are very good.
- We have no idea what GH's wife wants.
- The money is in UTA favor.
- All three locales have their plusses and minuses.
- BOS is the best team going in
- BOS has the best future picks situation in the NBA (UTA is neutral, MIA is sending 2 firsts and all 4 second rounders away in the next 4 years)
- If he's looking for THE featured scoring role (which I doubt), MIA is his best bet

I have no clue where he's going, but I'd give the edge to UTA. In any case, we've never have been the favorite to win his services despite what many here have felt.