Look, I am not arguing about who has had the better carreer - I am arguing about the next 2-3 seasons, and it really is not a contest. Dunleavy was better last season, and is six years younger.
I am not talking just about scoring either, I am talking about efficiency, facilitation, and rebounding - all areas where Dunleavy comes out ahead.
If you were to list the Top 3 issues facing this team, what would they be?
1. Age
2. Backup Center
3. Backup Point
This trade addresss all three, and obviously we lay the groundwork with Indy before we sign anyone to the full MLE, and we do not make the trade unless we get a Gordon caliber shooting guard for the full MLE.
Rondo / House
Allen / Posey
Pierce / Posey
Garnett / Posey
Perkins / Garnett
or
Rondo / Tinsley
Gordon / Pierce
Pierce / Dunleavy
Garnett / Foster
Perkins / Foster
I also question the value of Allen's contract next season anyway. Guys like James, Melo, Wade, and Bosh almost always resign with their old teams - so even if one of them gets away, there are allready three teams with enough cap lined up to make a max deal - they do not need us.
your not acknowledging that ray was the third option though. You would have to take 5-8 shots a game away from dunleavy to make the comparison, and when you do that, its not close.
in no real world scenario will dunleavy ever be as good as ray allen. he will be a career starter on bad teams, and a good backup on a good one.
the trade is horrid, theres no way around it. it depends on the bulls GM getting hammered and not matching a MLE offer for ben gordon to even be remotely acceptable, and there's no reason he would do that.
Also, as everyone has mentioned, ray will be a huge chip next year if your hell bent on trading him, why trade him for pennies now, when we can trade him for a ton next year as teams try to free up cap space?
This trade summed up in an image to me:
also, how in any reasonable NBA scenario can you question the value of a 19 million expiring contract? since the current CBA started, expiring contracts have been MASSIVE chips. how did wally's contract and theo ratliffs expiring contracts work out for us? i think we turned those much smaller expiring contracts into a bunch.
contracts that put teams a ton under the salary cap are the key to trades, since you have to match salary. they bring future hof'ers (ray and KG) or top 5 draft picks, your choice.