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Trade Idea: Eric Gordon
« on: January 26, 2022, 03:27:24 PM »

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I saw a rumor about the Celtics looking into bringing back Daniel Theis.  This idea made little sense to me, because where would he fit?  He makes too much to be a third big behind Horford and TL, we're not trading TL, and Horford to Houston didn't make much sense.  But then, what if Theis isn't the real target from Houston, but a secondary piece?

Houston gets:
Horford
Nesmith

Celtics get:
Eric Gordon
Daniel Theis

With Horford's deal only partially guaranteed next summer, Houston wouldn't have to do the awkward dance they're doing with John Wall -- he could just be released if they didn't want to play him.  Houston clears salary the next two years and gets another prospect.  The Celtics get a guy who can actually be a shooter/scorer off the bench (44.5% from 3 on 5 attempts per game), while getting a big who has paired well with TL in the past (+17.4 net rating when on the court together last year, albeit in limited opportunities). C's also get under the tax.

I think Houston probably wants a pick too, but I think the C's shouldn't make the trade if that's what it came to.  Gordon's shooting great this year, but it's a major spike from his recent levels at age 33,  His contract isn't bad, but it's not a bargain.

Re: Trade Idea: Eric Gordon
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2022, 03:32:07 PM »

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I'll pass on Gordon. I think the idea of him has always been better than the reality of him. Truth is, he's a guy with a sketchy injury history and a far streakier 3 point shot than most realize.
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Re: Trade Idea: Eric Gordon
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2022, 03:52:20 PM »

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I'll pass on Gordon. I think the idea of him has always been better than the reality of him. Truth is, he's a guy with a sketchy injury history and a far streakier 3 point shot than most realize.

While I agree with you on the injuries, this year heís been a lot more selective with his shooting than in prior years.  He averaged between 9.6 and 10.7 3s per 36 the last 5 seasons.  This year heís down to 6.3.  If he brings over that shot selection (which feels not impossible), he could be a major upgrade to the bench at a position of need (guard/wing scoring).

Heís also non-guaranteed after next season, which means next year is essentially an expiring deal.

Re: Trade Idea: Eric Gordon
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2022, 03:58:39 PM »

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I kinda like it. If it were Romeo going out in place of Nesmith, that would probably tip the scales to get me to say yes.

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« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2022, 04:05:34 PM »

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I kinda like it. If it were Romeo going out in place of Nesmith, that would probably tip the scales to get me to say yes.

I'm generally indifferent between the two, but I think Romeo would have a better chance of contributing on a team with Gordon than would Nesmith.  I also think Houston would prefer Nesmith because he's a year further from being eligible for free agency, and the summer of 2023 is when Houston might try to make a free agency splash (they could have double max salary room).

Re: Trade Idea: Eric Gordon
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2022, 04:24:42 PM »

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Isn't Terrence Ross a cheaper version of Gordon? Ross would fit in TPE and would be much cheaper.

Re: Trade Idea: Eric Gordon
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2022, 04:43:27 PM »

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Isn't Terrence Ross a cheaper version of Gordon? Ross would fit in TPE and would be much cheaper.

I think Gordon is a substantially better shooter/scorer than Ross.  Rossís career best TS% is worse than Gordonís career average (and this year they arenít even in the same conversation).  This despite the fact that Gordon averages about 30% more attempts per game.

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« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2022, 05:19:05 PM »

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Isn't Terrence Ross a cheaper version of Gordon? Ross would fit in TPE and would be much cheaper.

I think Gordon is a substantially better shooter/scorer than Ross.  Rossís career best TS% is worse than Gordonís career average (and this year they arenít even in the same conversation).  This despite the fact that Gordon averages about 30% more attempts per game.

OK then...

Re: Trade Idea: Eric Gordon
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2022, 05:37:28 PM »

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If we are trading with the Rockets, my target would be Christian Wood.

Re: Trade Idea: Eric Gordon
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2022, 05:38:53 PM »

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If we are trading with the Rockets, my target would be Christian Wood.

Of course, but the rumor was the Celtics asked about Theis, and getting both of the doesnít make much sense.  So I came up with this idea instead.

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« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2022, 05:40:48 PM »

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Why would Boston want Eric Gordon?
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« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2022, 05:45:53 PM »

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Why would Boston want Eric Gordon?

Because heís shooting 44.5% from 3 on 5 attempts a game, and is a capable passer, two things that the Celtics have need for in the rotation.

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« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2022, 08:31:22 AM »

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Why would Boston want Eric Gordon?

Because heís shooting 44.5% from 3 on 5 attempts a game, and is a capable passer, two things that the Celtics have need for in the rotation.
He makes a lot of money, is old, and doesn't elevate Boston's title chances.  Good way to hamstring future flexibility on a player that adds very little especially since he plays no defense.  There also aren't a ton of minutes available for him to play.  I just don't see the point.
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« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2022, 09:25:32 AM »

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I kinda like it. If it were Romeo going out in place of Nesmith, that would probably tip the scales to get me to say yes.

I'm generally indifferent between the two, but I think Romeo would have a better chance of contributing on a team with Gordon than would Nesmith.  I also think Houston would prefer Nesmith because he's a year further from being eligible for free agency, and the summer of 2023 is when Houston might try to make a free agency splash (they could have double max salary room).

You mentioned the main point on why I'd prefer to see Romeo head out as a sweetener than Nesmith. That extra year of control is fairly significant, especially for two guys who obviously still need to develop and haven't hit their ceiling.

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« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2022, 09:27:42 AM »

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Why would Boston want Eric Gordon?

Because heís shooting 44.5% from 3 on 5 attempts a game, and is a capable passer, two things that the Celtics have need for in the rotation.
He makes a lot of money, is old, and doesn't elevate Boston's title chances.  Good way to hamstring future flexibility on a player that adds very little especially since he plays no defense.  There also aren't a ton of minutes available for him to play.  I just don't see the point.

Yeah, I don't think anyone is suggesting to give up real assets for Gordon, but in this deal it's basically Horford for Gordon. Gordon is less old, less expensive, and arguably more productive than Horford at this stage of their careers. If you're getting Theis back too (who gives you probably 90% of what Horford does at this point), you can make the argument it's worth giving up one of our middling young guys.