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Re: Doctor: “Kyrie could have a chronic shoulder issue”
« Reply #30 on: December 07, 2019, 08:52:45 PM »

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It’s interesting that Kyrie is dealing with an impingement and potential labrum tear.  That’s what IT had, although the injury is drastically different in the hip than shoulder.

Isaiah’s issue was more serious than an injury to the labrum. There was an underlying deformity of the hip socket that possibly - probably - led to the labral tear. Labrums are hard enough to heal without an ill-fitting joint.

You’re right about hip joint versus shoulder joint (for one thing, you can run and jump while the shoulder labrum is healing, which is a huge difference for the patient), though the labrums in the two joints are equally difficult to heal.
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Re: Doctor: “Kyrie could have a chronic shoulder issue”
« Reply #31 on: December 07, 2019, 10:13:54 PM »

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It’s interesting that Kyrie is dealing with an impingement and potential labrum tear.  That’s what IT had, although the injury is drastically different in the hip than shoulder.

Isaiah’s issue was more serious than an injury to the labrum. There was an underlying deformity of the hip socket that possibly - probably - led to the labral tear. Labrums are hard enough to heal without an ill-fitting joint.


The deformity was the femoral impingement. Kyrie has one in his shoulder, although that’s not necessarily due to anything structurally deformed in the shoulder. It does involve a lot of rubbing / friction / catching of the tendons on the bone.


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Re: Doctor: “Kyrie could have a chronic shoulder issue”
« Reply #32 on: December 07, 2019, 11:19:42 PM »

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After realizing he wasn't going to win much leading the Nets alone, he's sitting out this season to play with KD next season.

This is just my opinion/theory.
This. The Nets are playing better without him.

So did we.

Re: Doctor: “Kyrie could have a chronic shoulder issue”
« Reply #33 on: December 08, 2019, 11:31:26 AM »

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It’s interesting that Kyrie is dealing with an impingement and potential labrum tear.  That’s what IT had, although the injury is drastically different in the hip than shoulder.

Isaiah’s issue was more serious than an injury to the labrum. There was an underlying deformity of the hip socket that possibly - probably - led to the labral tear. Labrums are hard enough to heal without an ill-fitting joint.


The deformity was the femoral impingement. Kyrie has one in his shoulder, although that’s not necessarily due to anything structurally deformed in the shoulder. It does involve a lot of rubbing / friction / catching of the tendons on the bone.

Isaiah’s femur was impinging the labrum because of the socket deformity. You are saying that the deformity was the impingement, which doesn’t make sense. The surgery that he got, iirc, included shaving bone to give the femoral head a better fit.

The official diagnosis was: “ ... right femoral-acetabular impingement with labral tear“. The acetabulum is the socket of the hip joint.

That’s a different kind of impingement than Kyrie’s. Kyrie has a subacromial impingement, which is where the supraspinatus muscle is crowded up against the acromion process of the scapula.

The labrum is inside the joint; Kyrie’s injury is above the joint.
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Re: Doctor: “Kyrie could have a chronic shoulder issue”
« Reply #34 on: December 08, 2019, 03:22:34 PM »

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That's not good news. The NBA needs players like Kyrie, even if the Celtics don't.
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Re: Doctor: “Kyrie could have a chronic shoulder issue”
« Reply #35 on: December 08, 2019, 04:19:40 PM »

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That's not good news. The NBA needs players like Kyrie, even if the Celtics don't.
not that I'm rooting for Kyrie to be injure but what the NBA needs is better officiating and return to the rules/style of play of the early-to-mid 80's --> pre-Bad Boys Detroit.  THAT was great basketball before the thuggery, blatant superstar-call officiating and 3-pt shot worshipping took over. 

Kyrie's just a talented player.  the NBA has a number of those and will continue to have more entering the league every year.

Re: Doctor: “Kyrie could have a chronic shoulder issue”
« Reply #36 on: December 08, 2019, 05:23:46 PM »

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good for nets?

they are now at 12 wins and 10 loses. 9-3 without kyrie in the lineup, and 3-7 with him.   ;D
Is there a better backup PG than Dinwiddie?   

Re: Doctor: “Kyrie could have a chronic shoulder issue”
« Reply #37 on: January 04, 2020, 07:14:56 PM »

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NEW YORK -- As a shoulder injury threatens to spoil his debut season with the Brooklyn Nets, Kyrie Irving said Saturday that surgery is not off the table, though he is hoping to avoid it.

Speaking with reporters for the first time since initially injuring his right shoulder in mid-November, Irving, who was diagnosed with a shoulder impingement, said he got a cortisone shot on Dec. 24 in an attempt to postpone or eliminate the need for surgery.

"I am in a better place now that it has been a significant amount of time," Irving said. "The next step in any progression was to either get a cortisone shot or to get surgery. That was the ultimatum I was fixed with. Now, I'm just doing the best I can to live off this cortisone and move forward if I need surgery in the future."

Irving said he and the Nets' medical team will reevaluate in a month or two whether arthroscopic surgery will be needed.


Taking the season off.


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Re: Doctor: “Kyrie could have a chronic shoulder issue”
« Reply #38 on: January 04, 2020, 10:05:39 PM »

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NEW YORK -- As a shoulder injury threatens to spoil his debut season with the Brooklyn Nets, Kyrie Irving said Saturday that surgery is not off the table, though he is hoping to avoid it.

Speaking with reporters for the first time since initially injuring his right shoulder in mid-November, Irving, who was diagnosed with a shoulder impingement, said he got a cortisone shot on Dec. 24 in an attempt to postpone or eliminate the need for surgery.

"I am in a better place now that it has been a significant amount of time," Irving said. "The next step in any progression was to either get a cortisone shot or to get surgery. That was the ultimatum I was fixed with. Now, I'm just doing the best I can to live off this cortisone and move forward if I need surgery in the future."

Irving said he and the Nets' medical team will reevaluate in a month or two whether arthroscopic surgery will be needed.


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Re: Doctor: “Kyrie could have a chronic shoulder issue”
« Reply #39 on: January 05, 2020, 12:56:14 AM »

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NEW YORK -- As a shoulder injury threatens to spoil his debut season with the Brooklyn Nets, Kyrie Irving said Saturday that surgery is not off the table, though he is hoping to avoid it.

Speaking with reporters for the first time since initially injuring his right shoulder in mid-November, Irving, who was diagnosed with a shoulder impingement, said he got a cortisone shot on Dec. 24 in an attempt to postpone or eliminate the need for surgery.

"I am in a better place now that it has been a significant amount of time," Irving said. "The next step in any progression was to either get a cortisone shot or to get surgery. That was the ultimatum I was fixed with. Now, I'm just doing the best I can to live off this cortisone and move forward if I need surgery in the future."

Irving said he and the Nets' medical team will reevaluate in a month or two whether arthroscopic surgery will be needed.


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Re: Doctor: “Kyrie could have a chronic shoulder issue”
« Reply #40 on: January 05, 2020, 10:32:25 AM »

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I have a feeling Kyrie will sit out the whole season, since without KD it's a "lost" season anyway. The last thing he wants is to come back and for them to start losing.
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Irving out 2 more months
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Our old buddy, Kyrie Irving, is out 2 more month.. glad we didn’t resign him..if Durant was playing, I bet Kyrie would be
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Re: Doctor: “Kyrie could have a chronic shoulder issue”
« Reply #42 on: January 05, 2020, 11:53:01 AM »

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Anyone really surprised? No KD, so of course it's a "lost season" for Kyrie. Ironically though, this may have been a blessing for the Nets as they're playing better without him and Dinwiddie has emerged as an all-star talent. 

How much do you want to bet this "chronic shoulder issue" suddenly ends by next season as KD returns  :P
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Re: Doctor: “Kyrie could have a chronic shoulder issue”
« Reply #43 on: January 05, 2020, 12:21:20 PM »

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"... until Kevin Durant is healthy enough to play alongside him," the doctor added, quietly.
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Re: Doctor: “Kyrie could have a chronic shoulder issue”
« Reply #44 on: January 05, 2020, 12:56:49 PM »

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As usual there are a lot of seemingly contradictory/weird statements by Irving.  He claims he overworked his shoulder trying to come back from a facial injury- that alone sounds weird and funny- hurting a shoulder rehabbing a face :D.  Then he says the shoulder is doing a lot better but he still struggles to lift his shoulder when taking jump shots.  And he also said he just had a cortisone shot and that he will be reevaluated in a month or two... when does someone wait two months to see how cortisone worked?  It's all Irving's usual craziness.  He obviously just doesn't want to play right now like others are saying.
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