Lakers got #4 pick in a 3 person draft

[LarBrd33]

still probably puts them as the frontrunner to add Davis if Davis is still getting traded.

the Memphis pick upgraded our package a bit

Not really.  If it plays out like the Kings, they'll be a late lotto team two seasons from now.  That pick is probably worthless too.

worthless? Lol come on

Klay thompson was picked 9. How is a late lotto team worthless?

A late pick in a strong draft is better than any pick in a weak draft

Bottom line is that the #4 pick is more valuable than #14 + #22 + #24 + Memphis pick combined.

So this is going to come down to how much more valuable you see Smart + Brown + Tatum compared to Ball + Kuzma + Ingram ... and whether it's enough to tilt the balance back considering the Lakers have us beat on draft assets.

[esel1000]

still probably puts them as the frontrunner to add Davis if Davis is still getting traded.

the Memphis pick upgraded our package a bit

Not really.  If it plays out like the Kings, they'll be a late lotto team two seasons from now.  That pick is probably worthless too.

worthless? Lol come on

Klay thompson was picked 9. How is a late lotto team worthless?

A late pick in a strong draft is better than any pick in a weak draft

Bottom line is that the #4 pick is more valuable than #14 + #22 + #24 + Memphis pick combined.

So this is going to come down to how much more valuable you see Smart + Brown + Tatum compared to Ball + Kuzma + Ingram ... and whether it's enough to tilt the balance back considering the Lakers have us beat on draft assets.

Normally I’d agree but this draft is a top heavy 2-3 man draft. Whose pick #4 in this draft?

It’s not a great pick... add Ingram’s health concerns and the Cs have the best offer. That said you only make the trade if Kyrie stays.

[mr. dee]

Tatum and Brown (God forbid) alone tops any offers Lakers or Knicks could match. I'm not even including the MEM pick which could turn into a real value if finally conveyed.

[SparzWizard]

still probably puts them as the frontrunner to add Davis if Davis is still getting traded.

the Memphis pick upgraded our package a bit

Not really.  If it plays out like the Kings, they'll be a late lotto team two seasons from now.  That pick is probably worthless too.

worthless? Lol come on

Klay thompson was picked 9. How is a late lotto team worthless?

A late pick in a strong draft is better than any pick in a weak draft

Bottom line is that the #4 pick is more valuable than #14 + #22 + #24 + Memphis pick combined.

So this is going to come down to how much more valuable you see Smart + Brown + Tatum compared to Ball + Kuzma + Ingram ... and whether it's enough to tilt the balance back considering the Lakers have us beat on draft assets.

Kuzma > Tatum
Ingram < Brown
Ball < Smart (defense)
#4 > all the other picks Boston has.

[green_bballers13]

#4 pick in a 3 player draft... in which we have 3 absolutely worthless picks.

I disagree. Besides being hyperbolic, you're wrong. The Celtics will have 3 shots at a useful player. They are probably most likely to go 0/3, but even a 1/3 hit would be a value add. Considering that Danny has moved around to pick up extra picks at little/no cost, I see no reason to think that the Celtics can't find overall value in this draft.

Philly is going to have to make tough decisions with their roster. Look how many top picks they have had and how much value they have delivered as a result. Lesson- drafting is still a guessing game, and teams can still succeed without securing top picks.

[CelticsElite]

#4 pick in a 3 player draft... in which we have 3 absolutely worthless picks.

you keep saying "worthless" and it is not true

The tier between 4th pick and the 20th pick is the same (useful solid prospects but not star talent)


Culver is only a slightly better prospect than someone who's available at 14 (alexander walker, okpala, etc)

[SparzWizard]

#4 pick in a 3 player draft... in which we have 3 absolutely worthless picks.

I disagree. Besides being hyperbolic, you're wrong. The Celtics will have 3 shots at a useful player. They are probably most likely to go 0/3, but even a 1/3 hit would be a value add. Considering that Danny has moved around to pick up extra picks at little/no cost, I see no reason to think that the Celtics can't find overall value in this draft.

Philly is going to have to make tough decisions with their roster. Look how many top picks they have had and how much value they have delivered as a result. Lesson- drafting is still a guessing game, and teams can still succeed without securing top picks.

Or Boston could draft the next Terry Rozier, Kelly Olynyk, or James Young.

[CelticsElite]

#4 pick in a 3 player draft... in which we have 3 absolutely worthless picks.

I disagree. Besides being hyperbolic, you're wrong. The Celtics will have 3 shots at a useful player. They are probably most likely to go 0/3, but even a 1/3 hit would be a value add. Considering that Danny has moved around to pick up extra picks at little/no cost, I see no reason to think that the Celtics can't find overall value in this draft.

Philly is going to have to make tough decisions with their roster. Look how many top picks they have had and how much value they have delivered as a result. Lesson- drafting is still a guessing game, and teams can still succeed without securing top picks.

Or Boston could draft the next Terry Rozier, Kelly Olynyk, or James Young.

or the next rondo, avery Bradley, etc


Funny how selective reasoning works 

[esel1000]

still probably puts them as the frontrunner to add Davis if Davis is still getting traded.

the Memphis pick upgraded our package a bit

Not really.  If it plays out like the Kings, they'll be a late lotto team two seasons from now.  That pick is probably worthless too.

worthless? Lol come on

Klay thompson was picked 9. How is a late lotto team worthless?

A late pick in a strong draft is better than any pick in a weak draft

Bottom line is that the #4 pick is more valuable than #14 + #22 + #24 + Memphis pick combined.

So this is going to come down to how much more valuable you see Smart + Brown + Tatum compared to Ball + Kuzma + Ingram ... and whether it's enough to tilt the balance back considering the Lakers have us beat on draft assets.

Kuzma > Tatum
Ingram < Brown
Ball < Smart (defense)
#4 > all the other picks Boston has.

Kuzma is not better than Tatum...

[CelticsElite]

still probably puts them as the frontrunner to add Davis if Davis is still getting traded.

the Memphis pick upgraded our package a bit

Not really.  If it plays out like the Kings, they'll be a late lotto team two seasons from now.  That pick is probably worthless too.

worthless? Lol come on

Klay thompson was picked 9. How is a late lotto team worthless?

A late pick in a strong draft is better than any pick in a weak draft

Bottom line is that the #4 pick is more valuable than #14 + #22 + #24 + Memphis pick combined.

So this is going to come down to how much more valuable you see Smart + Brown + Tatum compared to Ball + Kuzma + Ingram ... and whether it's enough to tilt the balance back considering the Lakers have us beat on draft assets.

Kuzma > Tatum
Ingram < Brown
Ball < Smart (defense)
#4 > all the other picks Boston has.

I seriously doubt david griffin thinks 23 year old kuzma is better prospect than tatum

[green_bballers13]

still probably puts them as the frontrunner to add Davis if Davis is still getting traded.

the Memphis pick upgraded our package a bit

Not really.  If it plays out like the Kings, they'll be a late lotto team two seasons from now.  That pick is probably worthless too.

worthless? Lol come on

Klay thompson was picked 9. How is a late lotto team worthless?

A late pick in a strong draft is better than any pick in a weak draft

Bottom line is that the #4 pick is more valuable than #14 + #22 + #24 + Memphis pick combined.

So this is going to come down to how much more valuable you see Smart + Brown + Tatum compared to Ball + Kuzma + Ingram ... and whether it's enough to tilt the balance back considering the Lakers have us beat on draft assets.

I'm not sure how you came up with your bottom line here. This year's draft is all about Zion (and maybe Morant/Barrett). There's a lot of parity from #4 on.

Darius Garland is an obscure PG who was hurt this year and could go #4. Cam Reddish was quiet at Duke this past year. Culver and Hunter don't appear to have top tier talent.

The Celtics could theoretically hit on a guy like Bol Bol/Bruno Fernando at #14. I'm more excited by these guys.

#14 might be better than #4.

[LarBrd33]

#4 pick in a 3 player draft... in which we have 3 absolutely worthless picks.

you keep saying "worthless" and it is not true

The tier between 4th pick and the 20th pick is the same (useful solid prospects but not star talent)


Culver is only a slightly better prospect than someone who's available at 14 (alexander walker, okpala, etc)

#4 pick in a 3 player draft = A Jaylen Brown

3 picks in the 14-25 range = 3 RJ Hunters

[gouki88]

#4 pick in a 3 player draft... in which we have 3 absolutely worthless picks.

you keep saying "worthless" and it is not true

The tier between 4th pick and the 20th pick is the same (useful solid prospects but not star talent)


Culver is only a slightly better prospect than someone who's available at 14 (alexander walker, okpala, etc)

#4 pick in a 3 player draft = A Jaylen Brown

3 picks in the 14-25 range = 3 RJ Hunters

Your over the top hyperbole is a bit boring and repetitive right now. Not like any team has picked any good players in that range recently

[CelticsElite]

#4 pick in a 3 player draft... in which we have 3 absolutely worthless picks.

you keep saying "worthless" and it is not true

The tier between 4th pick and the 20th pick is the same (useful solid prospects but not star talent)


Culver is only a slightly better prospect than someone who's available at 14 (alexander walker, okpala, etc)

#4 pick in a 3 player draft = A Jaylen Brown

3 picks in the 14-25 range = 3 RJ Hunters

here's the problem in your theory: we can offer the actual jaylen brown. LA can only offer a dice roll at a jaylen brown. Cam reddish had a historical bad season


Bol bol isn't rj hunter. At the end of the day the draft picks are package sweeteners, not the center


Is 4 nice? Its ok. So are our 6 picks


Rebuilding teams like to have many dice rolls

[droopdog7]

#4 pick in a 3 player draft... in which we have 3 absolutely worthless picks.

I disagree. Besides being hyperbolic, you're wrong. The Celtics will have 3 shots at a useful player. They are probably most likely to go 0/3, but even a 1/3 hit would be a value add. Considering that Danny has moved around to pick up extra picks at little/no cost, I see no reason to think that the Celtics can't find overall value in this draft.

Philly is going to have to make tough decisions with their roster. Look how many top picks they have had and how much value they have delivered as a result. Lesson- drafting is still a guessing game, and teams can still succeed without securing top picks.

You have to balance that against having to pay guys guaranteed contracts for three years and creating a roster crunch.  I’d bet some teams would rather not have picks in the teens and 20s at all.