Kemba’s got to go...

[Darth_Yoda]

I would gladly trade kemba, thonpson and edwards for

NAW, Adams and Reddick.

Solves all issues in 1 single deal. Naw is a perfect compliment to the jays and smart and adams is the perfect center to let all 4 of them play together.

Smart/pp/teague
Naw/reddick/romeo
Brown/green/neith
Tatum/grant/semi
Adams/theis/tinelord

Still need to fix the whole grant williams as the backup pf issue as he sucks. Would love to trade him for thad young.

[moiso]

I would gladly trade kemba, thonpson and edwards for

NAW, Adams and Reddick.

Solves all issues in 1 single deal. Naw is a perfect compliment to the jays and smart and adams is the perfect center to let all 4 of them play together.

Smart/pp/teague
Naw/reddick/romeo
Brown/green/neith
Tatum/grant/semi
Adams/theis/tinelord

Still need to fix the whole grant williams as the backup pf issue as he sucks. Would love to trade him for thad young.

Who's NAW?

[Goldstar88]

I would gladly trade kemba, thonpson and edwards for

NAW, Adams and Reddick.

Solves all issues in 1 single deal. Naw is a perfect compliment to the jays and smart and adams is the perfect center to let all 4 of them play together.

Smart/pp/teague
Naw/reddick/romeo
Brown/green/neith
Tatum/grant/semi
Adams/theis/tinelord

Still need to fix the whole grant williams as the backup pf issue as he sucks. Would love to trade him for thad young.

Who's NAW?

A player that New Orleans is not trading to the Celtics lol. Pelicans would immediately hang up the phone if that offer was presented.

[Darth_Yoda]

I would gladly trade kemba, thonpson and edwards for

NAW, Adams and Reddick.

Solves all issues in 1 single deal. Naw is a perfect compliment to the jays and smart and adams is the perfect center to let all 4 of them play together.

Smart/pp/teague
Naw/reddick/romeo
Brown/green/neith
Tatum/grant/semi
Adams/theis/tinelord

Still need to fix the whole grant williams as the backup pf issue as he sucks. Would love to trade him for thad young.

Who's NAW?

A player that New Orleans is not trading to the Celtics lol. Pelicans would immediately hang up the phone if that offer was presented.

Kemba is miles ahead of NAW at this point in time.

NAW is averaging
10.5
3
3
42%
29%

He is a bad fit on that team, although he coult "POTENTIALLY" be very SGA like.

[Goldstar88]

I would gladly trade kemba, thonpson and edwards for

NAW, Adams and Reddick.

Solves all issues in 1 single deal. Naw is a perfect compliment to the jays and smart and adams is the perfect center to let all 4 of them play together.

Smart/pp/teague
Naw/reddick/romeo
Brown/green/neith
Tatum/grant/semi
Adams/theis/tinelord

Still need to fix the whole grant williams as the backup pf issue as he sucks. Would love to trade him for thad young.

Who's NAW?

A player that New Orleans is not trading to the Celtics lol. Pelicans would immediately hang up the phone if that offer was presented.

Kemba is miles ahead of NAW at this point in time.

NAW is averaging
10.5
3
3
42%
29%

He is a bad fit on that team, although he coult "POTENTIALLY" be very SGA like.

Kemba does not fit NO’s timeline and many consider him damaged goods at this point. NAW is a promising young player. IMO, It wouldn’t make sense for them to move him in a package to get a 30+ year old guard. Kemba has little to no value considering his recent production, injury history, age, and contract size.

[Humble G]

I would gladly trade kemba, thonpson and edwards for

NAW, Adams and Reddick.

Solves all issues in 1 single deal. Naw is a perfect compliment to the jays and smart and adams is the perfect center to let all 4 of them play together.

Smart/pp/teague
Naw/reddick/romeo
Brown/green/neith
Tatum/grant/semi
Adams/theis/tinelord

Still need to fix the whole grant williams as the backup pf issue as he sucks. Would love to trade him for thad young.

I like Adams  but he cant be traded this year due to signing an extension i believe.

[PhoSita]

You people have got to get a grip, lol.


Kemba's played 6 games and been predictably inconsistent as he works his way back from a knee issue.

That doesn't mean he "has to go to go" or that his potential trade value is at rock bottom.


The reason you don't trade Kemba right now is that he's an All-Star caliber player who we have every reason will get back to that level again before the season is done.  You won't get fair value for him.  Also, the Celtics are much better with Kemba than they would be with whatever smattering of minor role players and lesser picks they might get if they did trade him.

[Goldstar88]

You people have got to get a grip, lol.


Kemba's played 6 games and been predictably inconsistent as he works his way back from a knee issue.

That doesn't mean he "has to go to go" or that his potential trade value is at rock bottom.


The reason you don't trade Kemba right now is that he's an All-Star caliber player who we have every reason will get back to that level again before the season is done.  You won't get fair value for him.  Also, the Celtics are much better with Kemba than they would be with whatever smattering of minor role players and lesser picks they might get if they did trade him.

He was an all star level player. As a primary option. Now he’s a 3rd option with bad knees and is over 30 years old. He’s a very average shooter and if he’s not making his shots, he’s not contributing to the team while being on the court. If anything, he’s a liability. Had the worst +/- on the team last game. I believe the Celtics  would be better off if they were able to move kemba and a 1st rounder to OKC for Horford and Hill.

[NKY fan]

You people have got to get a grip, lol.


Kemba's played 6 games and been predictably inconsistent as he works his way back from a knee issue.

That doesn't mean he "has to go to go" or that his potential trade value is at rock bottom.


The reason you don't trade Kemba right now is that he's an All-Star caliber player who we have every reason will get back to that level again before the season is done.  You won't get fair value for him.  Also, the Celtics are much better with Kemba than they would be with whatever smattering of minor role players and lesser picks they might get if they did trade him.

He was an all star level player. As a primary option. Now he’s a 3rd option with bad knees and is over 30 years old. He’s a very average shooter and if he’s not making his shots, he’s not contributing to the team while being on the court. If anything, he’s a liability. Had the worst +/- on the team last game. I believe the Celtics  would be better off if they were able to move kemba and a 1st rounder to OKC for Horford and Hill.

I think a better version of the trade would be:
Kemba + Thompson + Carsen + 1st rd pick
For Horford + Muscala + Hill
We create a $34.4M TPE because Horford and muscala salaries fit into our tpes and match 80% of Kemba plus his trade kicker at the deadline.
Then next year we have a TPE that can be used on a quite a few more valuable players than what our current tpe allows.

[Csfan1984]

For as much as I dislike Kemba he probably isn't being used right. Most his career the offense was built around him. That's setting picks and screens to get him free, done so at a large volume. We also know Kemba has never been the most efficient player, now we want him in a more reduced role and want more efficient play. That's never been his game. He can differ to Brown and Tatum but you lose the strength of Kemba. The strength is he goes at guys and wears guys down, his numbers then pile up.

I know it sounds crazy but maybe the team to get the most out of everyone has to play through Kemba, then Brown, then last Tatum. Tatum is like KD he can get off and make hard shots, using him at the end of plays or when the offense breaks down like KD does at times could work. While Brown is more likely to drawn fouls and doubles off drives he serves as a creator like Kemba.

So that's my suggestion if you can't move Kemba make the most out of the player. Let Kemba be Kemba and see if it works. At the very least you boost his #'s and trade value.

[PhoSita]

He was an all star level player. As a primary option. Now he’s a 3rd option with bad knees and is over 30 years old. He’s a very average shooter and if he’s not making his shots, he’s not contributing to the team while being on the court.

Less than 6 months ago he played 17 post-season games against three straight elite defensive opponents, and he put up:

19.6 points, 5.1 assists, 4.1 rebounds, 0.9 steals

57% True Shooting

He's been an All-Star the last 4 seasons.


You cannot make these sweeping judgments about a player (a) coming off an injury (b) who has played only 6 games and (c) who has a long track record of playing at a very high level.

[Goldstar88]

He was an all star level player. As a primary option. Now he’s a 3rd option with bad knees and is over 30 years old. He’s a very average shooter and if he’s not making his shots, he’s not contributing to the team while being on the court.

Less than 6 months ago he played 17 post-season games against three straight elite defensive opponents, and he put up:

19.6 points, 5.1 assists, 4.1 rebounds, 0.9 steals

57% True Shooting

He's been an All-Star the last 4 seasons.


You cannot make these sweeping judgments about a player (a) coming off an injury (b) who has played only 6 games and (c) who has a long track record of playing at a very high level.

You’re making a judgement that he will return to his previous all star form and I’m just not so sure of that, considering his age, injury history, and the fact that he is now a 3rd option on this team. That’s all factual. For the record, I hope that your are right and I am wrong. Guess we shall see...

[PhoSita]

He was an all star level player. As a primary option. Now he’s a 3rd option with bad knees and is over 30 years old. He’s a very average shooter and if he’s not making his shots, he’s not contributing to the team while being on the court.

Less than 6 months ago he played 17 post-season games against three straight elite defensive opponents, and he put up:

19.6 points, 5.1 assists, 4.1 rebounds, 0.9 steals

57% True Shooting

He's been an All-Star the last 4 seasons.


You cannot make these sweeping judgments about a player (a) coming off an injury (b) who has played only 6 games and (c) who has a long track record of playing at a very high level.

You’re making a judgement that he will return to his previous all star form and I’m just not so sure of that, considering his age, injury history, and the fact that he is now a 3rd option on this team. That’s all factual. For the record, I hope that your are right and I am wrong. Guess we shall see...

"To his previous All-Star form" -- as in, the way he was playing six months ago, with no new injury having occurred since?

I think it's way too soon to operate from the assumption he won't return to form, or very close to it.

He has some lingering knee issues, yes.  It is concerning.  I'm not suggesting we should all pretend it's not a thing.

But some people talk about Kemba as though he tore his ACL and MCL or blew out his achilles or something. 

True: it's never a good sign for a smaller guard past age 30 to have lingering knee soreness. 

Also true: lots of guys with similar issues have continued to play at a high level well into their mid-30s, though it requires them to adapt.

[Irish Stew]

If you want to get Collins, expect at a minimum to give up Smart and first round pick(s).

Sounds good to me.

Solves two problems: the 4 with Collins and the 2 with Brown.

[ozgod]

Definite choker and washed up has been. Definitely has to go. Trade him tomorrow!