2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (We Did It Guys! Fireworks!!!)

[PhoSita]

Of course Hayward approved the Rubio trade. You think the Jazz would make such a significant move without running it by their franchise player who's about to be a free agent? They want to make Gordon happy and probably knew George Hill was pricing himself out of their market.

As far as Hill, I think his agent messed him up. Turning down that supposed 3-year, $60m extension offer from Utah looks like a mistake now.

Oh sure, Rubio is better than nothing, but Rubio is certainly not better than Hill, which is who Hayward preferred all along according to numerous sources. They just chose the cheaper Rubio because it also allowed them to keep Ingles.

(And because it's Utah and they know what their fans like... let's be honest)

Spaniards?

Let's stay away from that type of talk, please.

Say no more, say no more.

[RJ87]

Of course Hayward approved the Rubio trade. You think the Jazz would make such a significant move without running it by their franchise player who's about to be a free agent? They want to make Gordon happy and probably knew George Hill was pricing himself out of their market.

As far as Hill, I think his agent messed him up. Turning down that supposed 3-year, $60m extension offer from Utah looks like a mistake now.

Oh sure, Rubio is better than nothing, but Rubio is certainly not better than Hill, which is who Hayward preferred all along according to numerous sources. They just chose the cheaper Rubio because it also allowed them to keep Ingles.

But Ramona's tweet doesn't say anything about Hayward preferring Rubio, that's a leap some guys are making. Likely, Rubio was presented to Gordon as a contingency plan and Gordon approved. The Rubio deal was rumored for a few weeks, pretty sure Gordon was filled in on multiple scenarios and was given a chance for input. He might've preferred Hill, but maybe he found Rubio and a resigned Ingles an acceptable alternative.

[j804]

Haywards friend George hill discussing 1 year deal with lakers

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/881926123248070657

Signing him would effectively knock the lakers pick out of the top 5.

I am not sure about that.  Hill is a good complimentary player.  Is he enough to get the Lakers out of the muck?  not so sure.

plus, does this mean that Ball comes off the bench?  I thought he was already penciled in as a starter?  better to let him develop slowly, but I didn't think the lakers were smart enough to do that.

Hill + Lopez is enough when you have teams like Sacramento, Brooklyn, Atlanta, Orlando, Chicago and Phoenix out there.

Which is why Ainge is stupid for trading away the number one and at the least not asking for more. This offseason is going about as bad as it could have gone. I hope Markelle Fultz destroys the Celtics today and I'm not joking.

Not sure I understand.  You don't hope that Tatum outplays Fultz tonight and that we end up with top 5 pick in 18 or 19?

I hope Tatum does great. I'm just p---ed right now and if Fultz kicks ass hey maybe Danny learns a thing about just giving away number one picks

[Phantom255x]

Celtics brass needs to take Hayward to the Summer League game tonight.

Show them our future and sign that contract right there LOL

[CelticsElite]

Celtics brass needs to take Hayward to the Summer League game tonight.

Show them our future and sign that contract right there LOL

would have been perfect if Hayward flew to Utah not san diego

[Phantom255x]

Are the Jazz in luxury tax if they re-sign Hayward with the whole team?

[Phantom255x]

Celtics brass needs to take Hayward to the Summer League game tonight.

Show them our future and sign that contract right there LOL

would have been perfect if Hayward flew to Utah not san diego

I know they are in SD, but I mean take a quick flight there and watch haha

[RJ87]

I don't see how Rubio is an upgrade on Hill, honestly.


With Hayward, Johnson, and Hood, that team didn't lack playmakers.

The issue was a lack of scoring threats.

A Rubio / Gobert pick and roll involves no shooting and is therefore subject to aggressive defenses that have learned to give zero respect to such pick and roll pairings.

I don't really get the Hayward - Rubio interest.  RR isn't a good shooter, he isn't as big of a threat to score as Hill is, so I would think that would be a net loss for Utah.

Hayward has never really played with a pass-first point guard in his career.  It might be something that attracts him from a basketball perspective.  He's been as much of a point guard as anyone for much of his career, and he might like a slightly different role.

I'm not saying I know what Hayward's wishes are, but it's not impossible to see how Rubio could be someone that Hayward would like to play alongside.

This does fit the report that Miami was attractive to him because he'd be the primary offensive option, Tim MacMahon's report that Gordon was hesitant to play with IT because he dominates the ball, and The Ringer article where he was quoted saying he believed he could do more offensively than Coach Snyder was asking of him.

[Ilikesports17]

Haywards friend George hill discussing 1 year deal with lakers

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/881926123248070657

Signing him would effectively knock the lakers pick out of the top 5.

I am not sure about that.  Hill is a good complimentary player.  Is he enough to get the Lakers out of the muck?  not so sure.

plus, does this mean that Ball comes off the bench?  I thought he was already penciled in as a starter?  better to let him develop slowly, but I didn't think the lakers were smart enough to do that.

Hill + Lopez is enough when you have teams like Sacramento, Brooklyn, Atlanta, Orlando, Chicago and Phoenix out there.

Which is why Ainge is stupid for trading away the number one and at the least not asking for more. This offseason is going about as bad as it could have gone. I hope Markelle Fultz destroys the Celtics today and I'm not joking.

Not sure I understand.  You don't hope that Tatum outplays Fultz tonight and that we end up with top 5 pick in 18 or 19?

I hope Tatum does great. I'm just p---ed right now and if Fultz kicks ass hey maybe Danny learns a thing about just giving away number one picks

Ah so it was an emotion driven overreaction. I'm glad our gm doesn't make those.

[Phantom255x]

Ramona Shelbourne is a legit reporter yes, and I'm not denying her credibility nor that this report is dead wrong.

But has she EVER said anything positive about the C's in any tweet or TV appearance? Rarely. Of course being a Lakers fan might be a reason..

What's more annoying is she's the one who broke this news. Ugh.

She and Windhorst trashed the C's after the George trade and said it should be a given he goes to Miami now to play with superstar Dragic... 

[RJ87]

Celtics brass needs to take Hayward to the Summer League game tonight.

Show them our future and sign that contract right there LOL

Unless Fultz dominates us and Danny has to explain why he passed on him.

[celticinorlando]

Ramona Shelbourne is a legit reporter yes, and I'm not denying her credibility nor that this report is dead wrong.

But has she EVER said anything positive about the C's in any tweet or TV appearance? Rarely. Of course being a Lakers fan might be a reason..

What's more annoying is she's the one who broke this news. Ugh.

She and Windhorst trashed the C's after the George trade and said it should be a given he goes to Miami now to play with superstar Dragic... 

I was about to type this same thing

[CelticsElite]

https://twitter.com/tribjazz/status/881961403719991297


Hayward meeting with jazz still ongoing

[BitterJim]

Haywards friend George hill discussing 1 year deal with lakers

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/881926123248070657

Signing him would effectively knock the lakers pick out of the top 5.

I am not sure about that.  Hill is a good complimentary player.  Is he enough to get the Lakers out of the muck?  not so sure.

plus, does this mean that Ball comes off the bench?  I thought he was already penciled in as a starter?  better to let him develop slowly, but I didn't think the lakers were smart enough to do that.

Hill + Lopez is enough when you have teams like Sacramento, Brooklyn, Atlanta, Orlando, Chicago and Phoenix out there.

Which is why Ainge is stupid for trading away the number one and at the least not asking for more. This offseason is going about as bad as it could have gone. I hope Markelle Fultz destroys the Celtics today and I'm not joking.

Not sure I understand.  You don't hope that Tatum outplays Fultz tonight and that we end up with top 5 pick in 18 or 19?

I hope Tatum does great. I'm just p---ed right now and if Fultz kicks ass hey maybe Danny learns a thing about just giving away number one picks

You'd rather have your opinion validated than see the Celtics do well? Do you seriously not see something wrong with that?

[Birdman]

If we don't get Hayward, then I'm glad we didn't trade the farm for George for one year