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Re: Rumor: Rondo for Howard...?
« Reply #75 on: February 15, 2013, 10:43:00 PM »

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Re: Rumor: Rondo for Howard...?
« Reply #76 on: February 15, 2013, 10:44:00 PM »

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Lol even if Kobe and Dwight absolutely despised each other... you can't tell me a super-competitive player like Kobe Bryant would rather go to war with an injured point guard who can't even play until next year... over the best big man in the game.  The Lakers would effectively be punting this season and deciding to build around Rajon Rondo's mediocre future?  Come on...  that's absurd.

At this point Laker's management probably realizes the chances for much this season are done.  They need to get younger and this starts that move for them.  This rumor is kind of like how everyone on this forum was discussing the Celtics blowing things up about 3 weeks ago.  Lakers looks to trade off their assets now to position themselves for a quick turnaround. Nash and Gasol still have value as well that can make them younger.  Plus Rondo loves the glitz and glam of National TV games, maybe playing in LA and seeing all the movie stars court side would make him bring his A game every night. 

Overall for the Celtics this year, it would make us a huge threat come playoff time.  KG and Howard down low would close down the lane.

Re: Rumor: Rondo for Howard...?
« Reply #77 on: February 15, 2013, 10:44:56 PM »

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The question is would you trade rondo for dwight if it meant winning the title this year? The answer for me is yes. Dwight tastes winning he resigns I bet.

Would have to be rondo and bass for dwight to make the money work


Bradley
Lee/terry
Pierce/green
Garnett/
Howard

No, Lakers are going to want more than that.
Likely Rondo+Green+protected first for Howard.

What leverage do they have?!!!!!

The only reason they trade for a pg who cant shoot free throws, struggles shooting period, and IS COMING OFF AN ACL INJURY is because they're not confident at all they will keep him.

Sorry for the all caps. It's for emphasis. Not trying to get on you brother!  ;)
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Re: Rumor: Rondo for Howard...?
« Reply #78 on: February 15, 2013, 10:46:09 PM »

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Honestly? I'd do this deal even if Howard doesn't resign. It makes us legit contenders NOW. I don't care about next year or the year after.

I'll co-sign here. We need to win right now.

Same here.  When a team has a shot at a championship, it needs to maximize its chances.

The Lakers aren't dumb enough to do this trade, though.

Unless they know something we don't... Like Howard is bouncing at year's end if Kobe is still a Laker.


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Re: Rumor: Rondo for Howard...?
« Reply #79 on: February 15, 2013, 10:46:28 PM »

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Rondo and Nash on same team. Wat. No. Crazy. No Trade.
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Re: Rumor: Rondo for Howard...?
« Reply #80 on: February 15, 2013, 10:46:31 PM »

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Right. And Howard and fourteen guys from this forum went to the NBA Finals three and half years ago. Howard is only 27 years old.
Uh-huh.

So if he's so great, how come he's not going anywhere with teammates who have won multiple championships in the last 5 years?

 Tiil last year how many championships got Leabron...Please...

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« Reply #81 on: February 15, 2013, 10:47:26 PM »

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Rondo and Nash on same team. Wat. No. Crazy. No Trade.

Are you super upset about LAL team??? ??? ;D ::)

Re: Rumor: Rondo for Howard...?
« Reply #82 on: February 15, 2013, 10:48:12 PM »

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Watch this end up being the Lakers trading Earl Clark and a protected second-round pick for the Celtics' (lottery-protected) 2013 first round pick.   Clark is a lengthy (6'10"), athletic big who can stretch the floor (40.5% of threes this season) and rebound (his 15.0% total rebounding rate and 9.8 rebounds per 36 minutes this season are approximately what Kevin Garnett is pulling down).
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Re: Rumor: Rondo for Howard...?
« Reply #83 on: February 15, 2013, 10:49:40 PM »

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Omg I am just thinking about the celtics defense with KG dwight and bradley shutting up the wade bosh Lebron and ray ray!! What a mistake ray!
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Re: Rumor: Rondo for Howard...?
« Reply #84 on: February 15, 2013, 10:50:17 PM »

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Lol i'd do that trade with or without an assurance that Dwight would re-sign.  Dwight is a franchise player... top 5... the best big man in the game.  Absolutely a player you can build a contender around.  Rondo is an allstar point guard (top 5 point guard), who is injured for at least a year... and isn't someone you can really build a team around.

I'd roll the dice.  Best case scenario, Dwight gets healthy enough to win us a title this year.  Worst case scenario, he bails on us, KG and Pierce retire and we start the rebuild off in grand style... cap space and lotto dreams.

I see very little reason for the Lakers to do this, though.  They would be insane to trade a top 5 player for a guy who is injured.

Top 5? Not even close.

Have you seen this dude this year?

Are you aware how bad his injury was for a man of his profession at his size with his limited skill set? For a guy so dependent on athleticism it's bad.

But this is a rare case with Rondo's skill set and his injury also. It's a perfect storm for Boston to take this risk.

Seriously though. You will never see the Dwight of Orlando again. Maybe he can be that effective but his below the rim game will be a huge part of it and thus it will be in a different way.


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Re: Rumor: Rondo for Howard...?
« Reply #85 on: February 15, 2013, 10:51:05 PM »

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If it's Bass and Rondo + pick/Melo, my goodness -- how in the world do you pass on that?

Well worth the risk even with no promise of re-signing IMO.

I'd hate to despise Rondo...  but I would.

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« Reply #86 on: February 15, 2013, 10:54:50 PM »

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Lol even if Kobe and Dwight absolutely despised each other... you can't tell me a super-competitive player like Kobe Bryant would rather go to war with an injured point guard who can't even play until next year... over the best big man in the game.  The Lakers would effectively be punting this season and deciding to build around Rajon Rondo's mediocre future?  Come on...  that's absurd.

Man this team ain't doing anything. Not beating OKC and SA on the road in a 7 game series. Not beating the Clippers either. Especially when they just got Billups back and likely flip Bledsoe and Odom for a NICE player.

This team is done for this year.

Smart to look towards next year especially when the chances Dwight leave for nothing in return are greater then ever.

You really think a a first or second round exit is any different then lottery if Dwight walks?

I don't.

The Lakers are D.E.A.D for the 2012-13 season as far as a title is concerned and for an organization like the Lakers - when that is the case - the only next step is think abut next year and contention.


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Re: Rumor: Rondo for Howard...?
« Reply #87 on: February 15, 2013, 10:55:18 PM »

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Best I could come up with that I think would work for both teams

Howard, Peace, Blake

for

Rondo, Green, Bass, Sullinger, Barbosa, Collins


Boston post trade
Guards - Bradley, Lee, Terry, Blake
Wings - Pierce, Peace
Bigs - Garnett, Howard, Wilcox, Melo

C's clearly would need to add a big man free agent.  A guy like Kenyon Martin would make a lot more sense.  Add him to those guys and I think that is a team that could legitimately compete with the Heat if Howard was healthy.
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Re: Rumor: Rondo for Howard...?
« Reply #88 on: February 15, 2013, 10:55:56 PM »

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Lol i'd do that trade with or without an assurance that Dwight would re-sign.  Dwight is a franchise player... top 5... the best big man in the game.  Absolutely a player you can build a contender around.  Rondo is an allstar point guard (top 5 point guard), who is injured for at least a year... and isn't someone you can really build a team around.

I'd roll the dice.  Best case scenario, Dwight gets healthy enough to win us a title this year.  Worst case scenario, he bails on us, KG and Pierce retire and we start the rebuild off in grand style... cap space and lotto dreams.

I see very little reason for the Lakers to do this, though.  They would be insane to trade a top 5 player for a guy who is injured.

Top 5? Not even close.

Have you seen this dude this year?

Are you aware how bad his injury was for a man of his profession at his size with his limited skill set? For a guy so dependent on athleticism it's bad.

But this is a rare case with Rondo's skill set and his injury also. It's a perfect storm for Boston to take this risk.

Seriously though. You will never see the Dwight of Orlando again. Maybe he can be that effective but his below the rim game will be a huge part of it and thus it will be in a different way.

And yet he's scoring 16.3 points a game (5th among centers) at a 57.8 FG% rate (career average levels, and 4th in the league) and grabbing 11.8 rebounds a game (league leader), while blocking 2.3 times a game (5th in the league). Give me a list of centers that have a similar stat line.

Re: Rumor: Rondo for Howard...?
« Reply #89 on: February 15, 2013, 10:58:03 PM »

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Someone needs to kill this rumor real quick.


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