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Can GS reach Perk's skill-level or greater?

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Re: Greg Stiemsma's Potential = Perk or Better?
« Reply #105 on: April 03, 2012, 09:19:10 PM »

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If they practiced, then the C's would lose more. What would their calendar say then?

Mon - Practice
Tue - Game
Wed - Practice
Thu - Game
Fri - Practice
Sat - Game
Sun - Game

??? Pfft. No thanks. I want them rested for when it counts. Not exhausted by the time they have to suit up. It's not Doc's fault that there was a lockout that caused a jam packed season. Get over it.
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Re: Greg Stiemsma's Potential = Perk or Better?
« Reply #106 on: April 03, 2012, 09:21:19 PM »

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It's impressive how you factor in maturity out of that. ;D
I moved the cheese.

Re: Greg Stiemsma's Potential = Perk or Better?
« Reply #107 on: April 03, 2012, 09:29:55 PM »

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Re: Greg Stiemsma's Potential = Perk or Better?
« Reply #108 on: April 03, 2012, 09:38:24 PM »

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Have a good day then.

Back on topic...

Hollins got some one on one time with KG. Stiemsma already has his stamp of approval when he said that the Celtics should resign him. He seems totally unassuming compared to Perk. Nobody would call Perk "Goldie Blocks" even if he was blonde.
I moved the cheese.

Re: Greg Stiemsma's Potential = Perk or Better?
« Reply #109 on: April 03, 2012, 10:02:09 PM »

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Personally I think Perk pre-injury was the better player.  I always felt like Perk was a better offensive player than he was given credit for.  Not a good offensive player, mind you, just not the useless stiff that he is often accused of being.

That being said, GS has improved a ton this year, much more than I would have ever thought.  If he continues to improve at this rate, he will definetely eclipse Perk.  But few players are able to do that.  It's a close call, but if I had to guess I'd say it's a no go.

Re: Greg Stiemsma's Potential = Perk or Better?
« Reply #110 on: April 03, 2012, 10:06:18 PM »

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Hollins got some one on one time with KG. Stiemsma already has his stamp of approval when he said that the Celtics should resign him.

I think KG plans on coming back to Boston next season and is just desperate for the Celtics to have as many centers on the roster as possible so he doesn't have to play at the 5 so much.
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Re: Greg Stiemsma's Potential = Perk or Better?
« Reply #111 on: April 03, 2012, 10:13:55 PM »

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I think KG plans on coming back to Boston next season and is just desperate for the Celtics to have as many centers on the roster as possible so he doesn't have to play at the 5 so much.
probably closer to the truth than KG would like to admit

Re: Greg Stiemsma's Potential = Perk or Better?
« Reply #112 on: April 03, 2012, 11:07:03 PM »

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I think KG plans on coming back to Boston next season and is just desperate for the Celtics to have as many centers on the roster as possible so he doesn't have to play at the 5 so much.
probably closer to the truth than KG would like to admit

KG would admit this in a heartbeat. The whole time he's been playing the 5 he's been talking about how much he hates the position.

Re: Greg Stiemsma's Potential = Perk or Better?
« Reply #113 on: April 03, 2012, 11:20:22 PM »

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Hollins got some one on one time with KG. Stiemsma already has his stamp of approval when he said that the Celtics should resign him.

I think KG plans on coming back to Boston next season and is just desperate for the Celtics to have as many centers on the roster as possible so he doesn't have to play at the 5 so much.
KG playing the center position is the best way for him to extend his playing career.

Re: Greg Stiemsma's Potential = Perk or Better?
« Reply #114 on: April 04, 2012, 07:03:20 PM »

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Re: Greg Stiemsma's Potential = Perk or Better?
« Reply #115 on: April 04, 2012, 07:26:53 PM »

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Perkins is better.


Perkins is a starting caliber C in the NBA.




Perkins is a better low post defender.  Perkins is a better team defender. 


Stiemsma is a better shot blocker, but not the better defender.  He is a backup big man in the NBA.  Nothing wrong with that.  He has a role, and he is playing it. 

Perkins has the WORST Value Added of any Center in the entire league, starting or backup.

Perkins has the 3rd worst PER of any Center in the league, starting or backup.

You may not believe these metrics mean anything, but when a player is categorically horrible by every measure, that has to mean something.

The fact that he is on OKC does not make him any good.

Re: Greg Stiemsma's Potential = Perk or Better?
« Reply #116 on: April 04, 2012, 08:08:08 PM »

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Perk took a while to develop but he was a tougher defender in his  younger days. Stiemsma will not become our defensive backbone. Enjoy your inaccurate statistics.
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Re: Greg Stiemsma's Potential = Perk or Better?
« Reply #117 on: April 04, 2012, 08:44:22 PM »

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yet another fan who fails to understand the things that Perk brought to the Celtics - his stats are not the point !!!
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Re: Greg Stiemsma's Potential = Perk or Better?
« Reply #118 on: April 05, 2012, 12:36:38 AM »

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instead of draining kg & Bass thru the whole game.

i don't see why hollins and stiemsma, can't be added as PF & C Off the bench from time to time.

Re: Greg Stiemsma's Potential = Perk or Better?
« Reply #119 on: April 05, 2012, 12:43:22 AM »

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instead of draining kg & Bass thru the whole game.

i don't see why hollins and stiemsma, can't be added as PF & C Off the bench from time to time.
Doc is going to need a couple of years before he can trust Hollins in a game.