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Doc's coahing on the Road
« on: December 31, 2008, 09:13:22 AM »

Offline housecall

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This past road trip turn out to be worst than i think any of us expected.The worst i thought we would come back would be 2-2.Although we came back 1-3 i don't think the starters overall played that bad on the trip.The bench as we all know needs some regrouping but in the mean time a good coach should utilize and maxamize what he has the best he can.Personally speaking,i dont think Doc used  his    bench well over this past road trip.He left players from the second team at times in to long in games.Also he knows that we are not that long on the second unit but he continues to play small ball for longer periods of time than we can handle.

  I am not a Doc-hater just feel he could have done a better coaching job over the road.
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« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2008, 09:17:49 AM »

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Agreed.  Doc and the bench were horrific during this trip.  Doc seems afraid to play Pruitt against good teams.  Give the kid a shot.
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« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2008, 09:20:52 AM »

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Agreed.  Doc and the bench were horrific during this trip.  Doc seems afraid to play Pruitt against good teams.  Give the kid a shot.
Agree with you there to..Pruitt deserves a shot.TP

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« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2008, 09:23:31 AM »

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The teams goes as Rondo goes. Rondo didn't go and the team got stuck with a 1-3 road record. Rondo needs to step up his play on the road. He's too good to be such a night and day player depending on whether or not it's a home game or not.

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« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2008, 10:03:56 AM »

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What if Pruitt gets some minutes in the future and proves to be a bust? What's next? Doc left bench players for too long? How many minutes have the starters played? We're one of the teams in the entire league where the bench players see less minutes, especially if you discount what they get in garbage time.

Fans love to moan about the coaches micro-management. 95% of the work of the coach is done before the tip off, but, for some odd reason, fans believe those 5% - that, btw, are much harder to assess - is what matters and impacts the winning record.

Maybe you should consider that this bench is being maximized as of now. They just aren't better than this.

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« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2008, 10:08:05 AM »

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rondo and KG are just as terrible on the road.
But yes, there was a point in last nights game when doc put in a pathetic lineup late in the game, we were up 2, not even a minute later we were down 6, and never recovered...truly pathetic
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« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2008, 10:09:24 AM »

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What if Pruitt gets some minutes in the future and proves to be a bust? What's next? Doc left bench players for too long? How many minutes have the starters played? We're one of the teams in the entire league where the bench players see less minutes, especially if you discount what they get in garbage time.

Fans love to moan about the coaches micro-management. 95% of the work of the coach is done before the tip off, but, for some odd reason, fans believe those 5% - that, btw, are much harder to assess - is what matters and impacts the winning record.

Maybe you should consider that this bench is being maximized as of now. They just aren't better than this.



How is the bench being maximized?  Are the players being put in position to do what they do best, or are they asked to do things that are not their strengths?  

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« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2008, 10:09:48 AM »

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What if Pruitt gets some minutes in the future and proves to be a bust? What's next? Doc left bench players for too long? How many minutes have the starters played? We're one of the teams in the entire league where the bench players see less minutes, especially if you discount what they get in garbage time.

Fans love to moan about the coaches micro-management. 95% of the work of the coach is done before the tip off, but, for some odd reason, fans believe those 5% - that, btw, are much harder to assess - is what matters and impacts the winning record.

Maybe you should consider that this bench is being maximized as of now. They just aren't better than this.


If he's a bust, then we move on and try something else, like try to trade him, play Sam, cut Sam and sign Marbury :-X or some other point guard, etc., but I think we should give it a try.  Won't know til you try.
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« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2008, 10:28:11 AM »

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The teams goes as Rondo goes. Rondo didn't go and the team got stuck with a 1-3 road record. Rondo needs to step up his play on the road. He's too good to be such a night and day player depending on whether or not it's a home game or not.

I thought Rondo played well last night and for most of the road trip. It's not his fault if Ray won't give up the ball on a fast break or that Perk has tennis rackets for hands. The team was red hot in the 1st quarter and then Doc's watch went off, House got in, and things went downhill from there.
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« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2008, 10:33:02 AM »

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Well, IMO, TA and Big Baby both sucked last night, and most nights this season. All second half I was wondering if Doc forgot that Leon is on the team.

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« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2008, 10:34:25 AM »

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Well, IMO, TA and Big Baby both sucked last night, and most nights this season. All second half I was wondering if Doc forgot that Leon is on the team.

Why is Baby first off the bench? Are they trying to showcase him?
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« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2008, 10:39:05 AM »

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The teams goes as Rondo goes. Rondo didn't go and the team got stuck with a 1-3 road record. Rondo needs to step up his play on the road. He's too good to be such a night and day player depending on whether or not it's a home game or not.

I thought Rondo played well last night and for most of the road trip. It's not his fault if Ray won't give up the ball on a fast break or that Perk has tennis rackets for hands. The team was red hot in the 1st quarter and then Doc's watch went off, House got in, and things went downhill from there.

I don't think Rondo played poorly Chief, but his play is indicative of the team as a whole.  Yesterday's game he had five assists and three steals in the first quarter. He finished with seven assists and three steals.  I believe he did the same thing in the GS game.

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« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2008, 10:47:24 AM »

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The teams goes as Rondo goes. Rondo didn't go and the team got stuck with a 1-3 road record. Rondo needs to step up his play on the road. He's too good to be such a night and day player depending on whether or not it's a home game or not.

I thought Rondo played well last night and for most of the road trip. It's not his fault if Ray won't give up the ball on a fast break or that Perk has tennis rackets for hands. The team was red hot in the 1st quarter and then Doc's watch went off, House got in, and things went downhill from there.

I don't think Rondo played poorly Chief, but his play is indicative of the team as a whole.  Yesterday's game he had five assists and three steals in the first quarter. He finished with seven assists and three steals.  I believe he did the same thing in the GS game.

Why did Doc take him out in the first quarter then? The guys on fire and Doc puts Eddie in. Rondo is young and could play the whole game if needed.
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« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2008, 11:01:43 AM »

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The teams goes as Rondo goes. Rondo didn't go and the team got stuck with a 1-3 road record. Rondo needs to step up his play on the road. He's too good to be such a night and day player depending on whether or not it's a home game or not.

I thought Rondo played well last night and for most of the road trip. It's not his fault if Ray won't give up the ball on a fast break or that Perk has tennis rackets for hands. The team was red hot in the 1st quarter and then Doc's watch went off, House got in, and things went downhill from there.

I don't think Rondo played poorly Chief, but his play is indicative of the team as a whole.  Yesterday's game he had five assists and three steals in the first quarter. He finished with seven assists and three steals.  I believe he did the same thing in the GS game.

Why did Doc take him out in the first quarter then? The guys on fire and Doc puts Eddie in. Rondo is young and could play the whole game if needed.

Doc has said multiple times he belives in managing minutes for the entire starting 5.

I happen to agree with you that rondo could play more minutes (which would specifcly help our bench out, ball movement dies right now when eddie runs the point), but doc doesn't, so there you go.
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« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2008, 11:10:23 AM »

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Well, IMO, TA and Big Baby both sucked last night, and most nights this season. All second half I was wondering if Doc forgot that Leon is on the team.

Why is Baby first off the bench? Are they trying to showcase him?

Well if he is, that certainly backfired. Somehow i don't see other teams lining up after that performance.

However, It did get KG's attention. ::)