BOS-SAC-PHX trade idea

[screwedupmaniac]

Amare wants to go to a contender...Sactown and Phoenix want to save money...and Boston wants to win now while staying competitive for years to come. I'm not a huge fan of blowing up our nucleus, as I have grown attached to all of our players. However, anything less than championships is failure, and staying competitive for the next decade is what matters more than anything. We have a lot of expirings, and there are a lot of teams looking to save money. The following trade isn't based on talent for Sactown and PHX as much as based on finances. Phoenix saves money while staying competitive with another great shooter next to Nash. Sactown gives the reigns to the team completely over to Tyreke and saves them money.

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Trade ID #5399208

Sacramento Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -5.3 ppg, +6.7 rpg, and +1.3 apg.

Incoming Players
  Kendrick Perkins
6-10 C from Clifton J. Ozen (HS)
12.3 ppg, 8.2 rpg, 1.2 apg in 29.3 minutes 
  Brian Scalabrine
6-9 PF from USC
1.8 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 0.6 apg in 10.3 minutes 
  Eddie House
6-1 PG from Arizona State
7.2 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 1.0 apg in 17.0 minutes 
  Tony Allen
6-4 SG from Oklahoma State
7.0 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 2.0 apg in 19.2 minutes 
  J.R. Giddens
6-5 SG from New Mexico
1.1 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 0.3 apg in 4.7 minutes 

Outgoing Players
  Kevin Martin
6-7 SG from Western Carolina
25.2 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 2.7 apg in 38.1 minutes
  Andres Nocioni
6-7 SF from Argentina (Foreign)
9.5 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 1.1 apg in 21.4 minutes

Boston Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +10.1 ppg, -1.3 rpg, and -3.1 apg.

Incoming Players
  Kevin Martin
6-7 SG from Western Carolina
25.2 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 2.7 apg in 38.1 minutes 
  Andres Nocioni
6-7 SF from Argentina (Foreign)
9.5 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 1.1 apg in 21.4 minutes 
  Amare Stoudemire
6-10 PF from Cypress Creek (HS)
20.9 ppg, 8.7 rpg, 1.0 apg in 34.7 minutes 

Outgoing Players
  Ray Allen
6-5 SG from Connecticut
16.1 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 2.8 apg in 36.3 minutes
  Kendrick Perkins
6-10 C from Clifton J. Ozen (HS)
12.3 ppg, 8.2 rpg, 1.2 apg in 29.3 minutes
  Brian Scalabrine
6-9 PF from USC
1.8 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 0.6 apg in 10.3 minutes
  Eddie House
6-1 PG from Arizona State
7.2 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 1.0 apg in 17.0 minutes
  Tony Allen
6-4 SG from Oklahoma State
7.0 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 2.0 apg in 19.2 minutes
  J.R. Giddens
6-5 SG from New Mexico
1.1 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 0.3 apg in 4.7 minutes

Phoenix Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -4.8 ppg, -5.4 rpg, and +1.8 apg.

Incoming Players
  Ray Allen
6-5 SG from Connecticut
16.1 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 2.8 apg in 36.3 minutes 

Outgoing Players
  Amare Stoudemire
6-10 PF from Cypress Creek (HS)
20.9 ppg, 8.7 rpg, 1.0 apg in 34.7 minutes

Celtics new lineup:
Rajon Rondo
Kevin Martin
Paul Pierce
Kevin Garnett
Amare Stoudemire

Bench:
Marquis Daniels
Glen Davis
Andres Nocioni
Bill Walker
Rasheed Wallace
Shelden Williams

I know this will probably never happen, but I have fun thinking these things up. Then again, none of us ever thought a few short years ago that KG, Pierce, and Ray would be on the same team either, so who knows 

[wdleehi]

Why would Sac add Perk when they already have Hawes?

[PosImpos]

Why would Sac add Perk when they already have Hawes?

Because Perk is a lot better than Hawes.

I have no idea why the Suns do this, though.  I'm also not so sure we'd be that much better...what we lose defensively would offset what we gain offensively.  I don't think I'd do it, even if those other teams actually wanted to do it.

[wdleehi]

Why would Sac add Perk when they already have Hawes?

Because Perk is a lot better than Hawes.

I have no idea why the Suns do this, though.  I'm also not so sure we'd be that much better...what we lose defensively would offset what we gain offensively.  I don't think I'd do it, even if those other teams actually wanted to do it.

But what's the point? 


Hawes is their C going forward.  Why waste a Martin trade to get another C instead of star player at another position they need?

[PosImpos]

Why would Sac add Perk when they already have Hawes?

Because Perk is a lot better than Hawes.

I have no idea why the Suns do this, though.  I'm also not so sure we'd be that much better...what we lose defensively would offset what we gain offensively.  I don't think I'd do it, even if those other teams actually wanted to do it.

But what's the point? 


Hawes is their C going forward.  Why waste a Martin trade to get another C instead of star player at another position they need?

Not a bad point, but they've been starting Jon Brockman at C lately instead of Hawes, so there's evidence to suggest that the Kings don't necessarily think of Hawes as their C going forward.

[Chief]

Why would Sac add Perk when they already have Hawes?

Because Perk is a lot better than Hawes.

I have no idea why the Suns do this, though.  I'm also not so sure we'd be that much better...what we lose defensively would offset what we gain offensively.  I don't think I'd do it, even if those other teams actually wanted to do it.

I'm not sure Perk is better than Hawes.

[BballTim]

Why would Sac add Perk when they already have Hawes?

  You see a trade where we're trading Ray for Amare and your first question is this?

  I'd guess that it's so they could sell it as something other than a straight salary dump.

[KungPoweChicken]

We're not getting Evans and Thompson too? Terrible deal for the C's!

[wdleehi]

Why would Sac add Perk when they already have Hawes?

  You see a trade where we're trading Ray for Amare and your first question is this?

  I'd guess that it's so they could sell it as something other than a straight salary dump.

I always look at all the teams motivation.  This one was the biggest jumpout.

[Gomesfan]

Better off with Ray going to Sac for their salary dump and KP-43 going to the Suns so they at least get a good player there at low money instead of just losing Amare to free agency. If the trade would still work that way contract wise?

[BballTim]

Why would Sac add Perk when they already have Hawes?

  You see a trade where we're trading Ray for Amare and your first question is this?

  I'd guess that it's so they could sell it as something other than a straight salary dump.

I always look at all the teams motivation.  This one was the biggest jumpout.

  Bigger than trading Amare for Ray?

[lon3lytoaster]

I wish. That'd keep us moving forward.

[WeMadeIt17]

That would be an awesome trade! If we could do something like that we would be able to contend for awhile.

[jdpapa3]

Amare is expiring and Ray is expiring, so why the heck would the Suns do this and be worse this year? Also, Ray is making more than Amare this year. On second thought, it looks like Amare has an early termination...that is pretty odd. So if they want it to be an expiring, it can be.

This is pretty much a no brainer for us, btw. Amare is a monster. Sacto might do this, although it depends on how they value Perkins. They can possible get more for Kevin Martin, but they'd love to get out from Noc's contract.