Kawhi Leonard (Merged Threads)

[gouki88]

Chris Sheridan (the same Chris Sheridan that reported first about LeBron returning to the Cavs) says according to his sources 'There is a 0 percent chance the Spurs trade Kawhi Leonard to a Western Conference team'. As Sheridan also puts it, Popovich would “gladly take 75 cents on the dollar for Kawhi if he could send him out of the West.”

IF this is truely the case and IF Kawhi passes a medical, Danny needs to trade for Leonard almost simply to stop 76ers from getting him.

https://www.getmoresports.com/sheridan-next-destination-kawhi-leonard-handicapping-field/

Dang. If we could get him for cheap (i.e. pupu platter of our role players and bench guys) Danny has to do that

[Erik]

Yeah my opening offer would be Rozier, Morris, Smart (if he likes the spurs), filler, and all of the picks. If we can get Kawhi without parting with a major asset, it’s worth the risk of losing him.

[slightly biased bias fan]

Yeah my opening offer would be Rozier, Morris, Smart (if he likes the spurs), filler, and all of the picks. If we can get Kawhi without parting with a major asset, it’s worth the risk of losing him.

I think the best gauge for a trade is Carmelo from the Nuggets to the Knicks. He was also 27 when he was traded to the Knicks on the last year of his deal and Denver got Wilson Chandler, Raymond Felton, Danilo Gallinari, Timofey Mozgov, the Knicks 2014 first-round draft pick, the Warriors’ 2012 second-round pick, the Warriors’ 2013 second-round pick and $3 million in cash.

[TheSundanceKid]

Yeah my opening offer would be Rozier, Morris, Smart (if he likes the spurs), filler, and all of the picks. If we can get Kawhi without parting with a major asset, it’s worth the risk of losing him.

I think the best gauge for a trade is Carmelo from the Nuggets to the Knicks. He was also 27 when he was traded to the Knicks on the last year of his deal and Denver got Wilson Chandler, Raymond Felton, Danilo Gallinari, Timofey Mozgov, the Knicks 2014 first-round draft pick, the Warriors’ 2012 second-round pick, the Warriors’ 2013 second-round pick and $3 million in cash.

Not sure, that trade basically ruined the Knicks chances of building a contender with Carmelo, teams since have avoided giving up that many pieces in trades.

Really we should be looking at what Kyrie went for or what Deron Williams went for. George and Butler went for pennies on the dollar and I don't think we see that repeated with Kawhi.

Williams went for Favors, Devon Harris and 2 first round picks, one of which was #3
Kyrie went for IT, Crowder, zizic and a nets pick (Nets had just finished with the worst record)

Phillys equivalent of the Williams trade would be Fultz + Covington + this years number 10 and a future pick, they'd likely have to add a bit more as the picks are worse and Fultz isn't as good as Favors was, plus Kawhi is a better player than Williams!

Equivalent to the Kyrie trade would be Saric, Covington, Luwawu, + a future high lottery pick that they don't currently have...

If I'm the Spurs I probably don't like either deal and I'd look elsewhere!

[Celtics4ever]

my opening offer would be Rozier, Morris, Smart (if he likes the spurs), filler, and all of the picks.

All the picks is too much up front with no wiggle room.   You never offer that much initially.  Also, any trade that offers both Rozier and Smart is one that is not taking into account Irving's injury history and very short-sighted.   Stick to your day job because being a GM is not in your future, nor mine.  JK.

[celticinorlando]

Wouldn’t be surprised if Leonard stays with the Spurs

[Ed Hollison]

Wouldn’t be surprised if Leonard stays with the Spurs

Couldn't agree more. He's probably gone, but we shouldn't dismiss this as a possibility.

[Erik]

That may be good advice when you're buying a car that has multiple copies, but when multiple people are bidding on one item you dont want to get hung up on. We dont need any of the 2019 draft picks. Offering rabble for a superstar needs multiple picks included. Or you can include brown and only give up sac19. Make no mistake about it, though. He's a top 3-5 player. This isn't Paul George, kyrie Irving, or any of the other people listed in this thread. But sure offer rabble, 1 pick, get countered with brown and the picks, counter with my suggestion. Just a waste of time. They're not giving him up without multiple first rounders or people who could be traded for first rounders

We could also get backup level PGs on the open market. Rounding out the bench won't be a problem.

[JBcat]

Yeah my opening offer would be Rozier, Morris, Smart (if he likes the spurs), filler, and all of the picks. If we can get Kawhi without parting with a major asset, it’s worth the risk of losing him.

I think the best gauge for a trade is Carmelo from the Nuggets to the Knicks. He was also 27 when he was traded to the Knicks on the last year of his deal and Denver got Wilson Chandler, Raymond Felton, Danilo Gallinari, Timofey Mozgov, the Knicks 2014 first-round draft pick, the Warriors’ 2012 second-round pick, the Warriors’ 2013 second-round pick and $3 million in cash.

Not sure, that trade basically ruined the Knicks chances of building a contender with Carmelo, teams since have avoided giving up that many pieces in trades.

Really we should be looking at what Kyrie went for or what Deron Williams went for. George and Butler went for pennies on the dollar and I don't think we see that repeated with Kawhi.

Williams went for Favors, Devon Harris and 2 first round picks, one of which was #3
Kyrie went for IT, Crowder, zizic and a nets pick (Nets had just finished with the worst record)

Phillys equivalent of the Williams trade would be Fultz + Covington + this years number 10 and a future pick, they'd likely have to add a bit more as the picks are worse and Fultz isn't as good as Favors was, plus Kawhi is a better player than Williams!

Equivalent to the Kyrie trade would be Saric, Covington, Luwawu, + a future high lottery pick that they don't currently have...

If I'm the Spurs I probably don't like either deal and I'd look elsewhere!

Let’s say Fultz, Covington, and the 10th pick is the starting point for the 76rs.  Is that really any better than say S&T of Smart, Morris and either the Kings pick or the Grizzlies pick? I think it’s close but we can easily sweeten our offer.  If we can hold onto Brown that would be great. Ha

[Phantom255x]

Yeah my opening offer would be Rozier, Morris, Smart (if he likes the spurs), filler, and all of the picks. If we can get Kawhi without parting with a major asset, it’s worth the risk of losing him.

I think the best gauge for a trade is Carmelo from the Nuggets to the Knicks. He was also 27 when he was traded to the Knicks on the last year of his deal and Denver got Wilson Chandler, Raymond Felton, Danilo Gallinari, Timofey Mozgov, the Knicks 2014 first-round draft pick, the Warriors’ 2012 second-round pick, the Warriors’ 2013 second-round pick and $3 million in cash.

Not sure, that trade basically ruined the Knicks chances of building a contender with Carmelo, teams since have avoided giving up that many pieces in trades.

Really we should be looking at what Kyrie went for or what Deron Williams went for. George and Butler went for pennies on the dollar and I don't think we see that repeated with Kawhi.

Williams went for Favors, Devon Harris and 2 first round picks, one of which was #3
Kyrie went for IT, Crowder, zizic and a nets pick (Nets had just finished with the worst record)

Phillys equivalent of the Williams trade would be Fultz + Covington + this years number 10 and a future pick, they'd likely have to add a bit more as the picks are worse and Fultz isn't as good as Favors was, plus Kawhi is a better player than Williams!

Equivalent to the Kyrie trade would be Saric, Covington, Luwawu, + a future high lottery pick that they don't currently have...

If I'm the Spurs I probably don't like either deal and I'd look elsewhere!

Let’s say Fultz, Covington, and the 10th pick is the starting point for the 76rs.  Is that really any better than say S&T of Smart, Morris and either the Kings pick or the Grizzlies pick? I think it’s close but we can easily sweeten our offer.  If we can hold onto Brown that would be great. Ha

For salaries to match, you might have to include Rozier, and maybe even Nader too (solely for salary). And truthfully it really depends on how they view Fultz. Some on here will say he's a "superstar trade prospect", while others look at him as a guy with legit star-potential that right now just doesn't have high trade value. Honestly if PHI decides to add Saric to that package and maybe a pick, it beats that offer. Otherwise, it's not too bad.

I wouldn't be surprised if teams (other than LAL) lowball them with offers at the beginning because remember, this guy is a rental who has made it clear he prefers to play with either LAL/LAC/NYK. Spurs leverage is honestly not that high here though they'll certainly still look for the highest offers out there (and prefer to deal him East). Kawhi may be a Top-5 player when healthy, but remember, that's "when healthy", because we also have no clue how serious his injury is/was.

Personally, I view Milwaukee as a dark horse candidate. They are in the East, and could offer something like Middleton + Parker + Draft Pick(s) and Spurs probably would like that. Or instead of Parker, add a prospect like Brogdon OR Maker. MIL is probably a bit desperate to add legit star power but right now they are kind of stuck where they are (unless they pull off a trade like this), and they probably want to keep Giannis happy going forward (which means better playoff success next year and beyond).

[mef730]

According to this SPECULATION, which could just be click-bait (and if so, kudos to them), the Clippers have offered 12, 13 and Tobias Harris for Kawhi.

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/othersport/975757/Kawhi-Leonard-trade-LA-Clippers-deal-San-Antonio

I bring that up only as a point of value comparison.

Mike

[johnnygreen]

Obviously, the biggest concern with trading for Kawhi is the risk of losing him in just one year. He is rumored to want to play in LA, as that is where he grew up. I know Danny and ownership can’t have contact with Kawhi to gauge interest before the trade. However, that doesn’t mean “friends” can’t call Kawhi like Irving, Hayward, or even Paul Pierce. One of the biggest issues between Kawhi and the Spurs was supposedly over his injury and how the team didn’t necessarily back him up. Well, who could be better spokesmen for the Celtics in that regard than Irving or Hayward? As for being born and raised in LA and then playing for Boston, could the Celtics have a better ambassador than Pierce? Maybe Danny just wants to hear if Kawhi is open to the idea of playing in Boston, or if he is dead set on playing in LA in one year.

[JBcat]

Yeah my opening offer would be Rozier, Morris, Smart (if he likes the spurs), filler, and all of the picks. If we can get Kawhi without parting with a major asset, it’s worth the risk of losing him.

I think the best gauge for a trade is Carmelo from the Nuggets to the Knicks. He was also 27 when he was traded to the Knicks on the last year of his deal and Denver got Wilson Chandler, Raymond Felton, Danilo Gallinari, Timofey Mozgov, the Knicks 2014 first-round draft pick, the Warriors’ 2012 second-round pick, the Warriors’ 2013 second-round pick and $3 million in cash.

Not sure, that trade basically ruined the Knicks chances of building a contender with Carmelo, teams since have avoided giving up that many pieces in trades.

Really we should be looking at what Kyrie went for or what Deron Williams went for. George and Butler went for pennies on the dollar and I don't think we see that repeated with Kawhi.

Williams went for Favors, Devon Harris and 2 first round picks, one of which was #3
Kyrie went for IT, Crowder, zizic and a nets pick (Nets had just finished with the worst record)

Phillys equivalent of the Williams trade would be Fultz + Covington + this years number 10 and a future pick, they'd likely have to add a bit more as the picks are worse and Fultz isn't as good as Favors was, plus Kawhi is a better player than Williams!

Equivalent to the Kyrie trade would be Saric, Covington, Luwawu, + a future high lottery pick that they don't currently have...

If I'm the Spurs I probably don't like either deal and I'd look elsewhere!

Let’s say Fultz, Covington, and the 10th pick is the starting point for the 76rs.  Is that really any better than say S&T of Smart, Morris and either the Kings pick or the Grizzlies pick? I think it’s close but we can easily sweeten our offer.  If we can hold onto Brown that would be great. Ha

For salaries to match, you might have to include Rozier, and maybe even Nader too (solely for salary). And truthfully it really depends on how they view Fultz. Some on here will say he's a "superstar trade prospect", while others look at him as a guy with legit star-potential that right now just doesn't have high trade value. Honestly if PHI decides to add Saric to that package and maybe a pick, it beats that offer. Otherwise, it's not too bad.

I wouldn't be surprised if teams (other than LAL) lowball them with offers at the beginning because remember, this guy is a rental who has made it clear he prefers to play with either LAL/LAC/NYK. Spurs leverage is honestly not that high here though they'll certainly still look for the highest offers out there (and prefer to deal him East). Kawhi may be a Top-5 player when healthy, but remember, that's "when healthy", because we also have no clue how serious his injury is/was.

Personally, I view Milwaukee as a dark horse candidate. They are in the East, and could offer something like Middleton + Parker + Draft Pick(s) and Spurs probably would like that. Or instead of Parker, add a prospect like Brogdon OR Maker. MIL is probably a bit desperate to add legit star power but right now they are kind of stuck where they are (unless they pull off a trade like this), and they probably want to keep Giannis happy going forward (which means better playoff success next year and beyond).

Good point about the Bucks.  They can put together a very attractive offer, and for them I think it would be a very good risk with Kawhi only signed for 1 more year trying to keep Giannis happy.

[Monkhouse]

There is absolutely no way I can envision Leonard ever wanting to stay with the Bucks. Especially Milkuawkee.

[footey]

Yeah my opening offer would be Rozier, Morris, Smart (if he likes the spurs), filler, and all of the picks. If we can get Kawhi without parting with a major asset, it’s worth the risk of losing him.

I think the best gauge for a trade is Carmelo from the Nuggets to the Knicks. He was also 27 when he was traded to the Knicks on the last year of his deal and Denver got Wilson Chandler, Raymond Felton, Danilo Gallinari, Timofey Mozgov, the Knicks 2014 first-round draft pick, the Warriors’ 2012 second-round pick, the Warriors’ 2013 second-round pick and $3 million in cash.

Not sure, that trade basically ruined the Knicks chances of building a contender with Carmelo, teams since have avoided giving up that many pieces in trades.

Really we should be looking at what Kyrie went for or what Deron Williams went for. George and Butler went for pennies on the dollar and I don't think we see that repeated with Kawhi.

Williams went for Favors, Devon Harris and 2 first round picks, one of which was #3
Kyrie went for IT, Crowder, zizic and a nets pick (Nets had just finished with the worst record)

Phillys equivalent of the Williams trade would be Fultz + Covington + this years number 10 and a future pick, they'd likely have to add a bit more as the picks are worse and Fultz isn't as good as Favors was, plus Kawhi is a better player than Williams!

Equivalent to the Kyrie trade would be Saric, Covington, Luwawu, + a future high lottery pick that they don't currently have...

If I'm the Spurs I probably don't like either deal and I'd look elsewhere!

Those pennies Indy got for George turned into silver dollars. Lol.