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Quote from: Sophomore on April 12, 2018, 08:14:09 AMWe don’t want Tatum to play he 4 for extended minutes. He’s not big enough - he’ll take a pounding. Also, when he plays the 4 our rebounding really suffers.He played the 4 at extended minutes in his rookie year. He's going to be just fine after he gains some weight. His build reminds me a lot of Paul Milsap, and the NBA is only getting smaller at those positions. It's not like he'll face the Anthony Davis/Boogie combo for all 29 teams.
We don’t want Tatum to play he 4 for extended minutes. He’s not big enough - he’ll take a pounding. Also, when he plays the 4 our rebounding really suffers.
C's definitely have the talent to trade for Leonard, but salary match -- even for KL's 20M is not simple. There is no way to avoid including JB or JT and you'd have to include Morris and probably Rozier -- just to get to about 13M. Then it's Yabu, Nader, Larkin to get to the right number. If it came down to Theis or Rozier -- who would you want to keep?
Quote from: Neurotic Guy on April 12, 2018, 06:06:06 AMC's definitely have the talent to trade for Leonard, but salary match -- even for KL's 20M is not simple. There is no way to avoid including JB or JT and you'd have to include Morris and probably Rozier -- just to get to about 13M. Then it's Yabu, Nader, Larkin to get to the right number. If it came down to Theis or Rozier -- who would you want to keep? I think you outline pretty well why this trade is not happening without sending one of the 3 current max contracts out.Kawhi will sign a max contract when his deal is up, He, Irving, Hayward, and Horford alone would account for 120 million in salary cap... Obviously, that's not a real possibility.
You absolutely tade for Kawhi if he is available, he is a top 5 talent. And sorry to say you trade Tatum for him if it's the asking price. Tatum is excellent but Kawhi is a top 5 talent, the probability of Tatum ever becoming as good as him are very slim.And yes you can include Horford in a package at this stage, enough with this narrative if we trade Horford no free agents will ever come here. Next year is his third year here, he is trade-able at this stage without future free agency concern repercussions.. it happens all of the time.
Quote from: Vermont Green on April 12, 2018, 07:32:42 AMI can see a scenario for a trade that involves a sign and trade of Smart to deal with the salary (still puts Boston into luxury tax I think). Say Smart ($10M) Tatum ($6.7M) and you get there. My a question is the resulting roster. Do we start:IrvingBrownLeonardHorfordSome other BigAnd then bring Hayward off the bench as at 2/3 (or wing or whatever you want to all it). Per 82games, Hayward split his time between 2 and 3 while Leonard played almost exclusively at 3 (based on 2016/17). Hayward the next super 6th man? Can Stevens/Ainge convince him to go along with this? If so, I like this team.And no, I do not want to have Hayward or Leonard play primarily at a big position. There are 96 minutes at the 2 and 3. There are enough minutes for them to not have to play as a PF except in limited small ball cases.This is why Celts more willing to give up Brown than Tatum. Tatum can play 4.
I can see a scenario for a trade that involves a sign and trade of Smart to deal with the salary (still puts Boston into luxury tax I think). Say Smart ($10M) Tatum ($6.7M) and you get there. My a question is the resulting roster. Do we start:IrvingBrownLeonardHorfordSome other BigAnd then bring Hayward off the bench as at 2/3 (or wing or whatever you want to all it). Per 82games, Hayward split his time between 2 and 3 while Leonard played almost exclusively at 3 (based on 2016/17). Hayward the next super 6th man? Can Stevens/Ainge convince him to go along with this? If so, I like this team.And no, I do not want to have Hayward or Leonard play primarily at a big position. There are 96 minutes at the 2 and 3. There are enough minutes for them to not have to play as a PF except in limited small ball cases.
Quote from: jbpats on April 12, 2018, 11:38:59 AMYou absolutely tade for Kawhi if he is available, he is a top 5 talent. And sorry to say you trade Tatum for him if it's the asking price. Tatum is excellent but Kawhi is a top 5 talent, the probability of Tatum ever becoming as good as him are very slim.And yes you can include Horford in a package at this stage, enough with this narrative if we trade Horford no free agents will ever come here. Next year is his third year here, he is trade-able at this stage without future free agency concern repercussions.. it happens all of the time.He'd be very lucky to be the 7th best player next year, and that's if you assume he returns to his peak form. You would be trading for him, not just getting him, and you would be doing so with one of the premier management teams in the NBA. They would have the better position because his health and mental outlook is murky and they know more about him than we do. He also slots into the role we need the least. I don't see us likely to improve with this exchange.
Quote from: Donoghus on April 12, 2018, 08:45:52 AMI just don't see it happening. This is a 55 win team that will be getting Hayward &, presumably, a healthy Kyrie back next season. Then you have a handful of cost controlled young guys. I have to think the organization already really likes its chances moving forward with the current core that they have in place. The tinkering will be at the periphery. This isn't summer '07.I hope you’re right but Danny worries me.
I just don't see it happening. This is a 55 win team that will be getting Hayward &, presumably, a healthy Kyrie back next season. Then you have a handful of cost controlled young guys. I have to think the organization already really likes its chances moving forward with the current core that they have in place. The tinkering will be at the periphery. This isn't summer '07.